Why I left Islam (Muslimcels come debate me)

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To anyone who’s Muslim and wonders why people leave this 70 iq religion Here’s why


The scribe of Muhammad, Abdullah Ibn Sa’d Ibn Abi Sarh also the brother of Othman left Islam. The story is simple. After Muhammad preached for a decade and had no believers, he and his small group of followers were kicked out, and they went to Medina. Since Muhammad was illiterate, he needed a person to write down the Qur’an when revelations came down.


Everything was normal until one day Muhammad finished a verse, and Abdullah was breath-taken and said, “Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators!” (Tafsir al-Qurtubi/ Quran 23:14). Muhammad told him to write that down. This happened multiple times, and Abdullah thought to himself: if this is truly the word of God, then why is Muhammad taking suggestions from a man?


Anyway, after thinking, Abdullah decided to escape Medina, and he left Islam. Upon coming to Makkah, the people were furious at him. Since Muhammad’s followers used to loot caravans, they saw him as a traitor, and they told him, “Why should we let you back into the city?” He told them everything, saying Muhammad is a fraud and that “your religion is better than his.” He even told them the verses where Muhammad took suggestions. One of them is:



“Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators” — Surah Al-Mu’minun (23:14).

This line, according to historical accounts (see Tafsir al-Qurtubi and Ibn Kathir), was reportedly said by Abdullah and then included in the Qur’an, raising his doubts about the divine source.

After that, they let him back in. 5–6 years later, Muhammad gained enough followers and was able to conquer Mecca. He had a list of people he wanted executed even if they were clinging to the fabric of the Kaaba. The list included some women and men. After Muhammad’s soldiers entered Mecca, they immediately executed everyone on that list.



Abdullah was scared, and he hid until tensions went down. After that, Abdullah saw Othman, his foster brother (later a Caliph). Othman loving Abdullah as a brother, took him to Muhammad asking for forgiveness. Muhammad, out of respect, let Abdullah go if Othman wasn’t there, he probably would’ve killed him.



After Othman and Abdullah left, Muhammad spoke to his bodyguards, telling them, “Is there not a man amongst you who would’ve killed this guy?” And they told him, “O Prophet of Allah, how could we have known?”



Is not there any intelligent man among you who would stand to this (man) when he saw me desisting from receiving the oath of allegiance, and kill him? They replied: We do not know, Messenger of Allah, what lies in your heart; did you not give us an hint with your eye? He said: It is not proper for a Prophet to have a treacherous eye.

(Sunan Abi Dawud 2683)

(Muslim cels before you say the Hadith is daif it’s Sahih graded by Sheikh Al Albani 🇦🇱 رَحِمَهُ اللَّهُ one of the best scholars)

Many Muslims will claim that since he came back to the religion, this story shouldn’t matter but it’s far beyond that. Muhammad would’ve killed Abdullah if it wasn’t for Othman. Anyway, after this, Muhammad died a year or two later. Then Abdullah gained a lot of political power, and at some point, he was the governor of Egypt.


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@Jason Voorhees @Gengar @loyolaxavvierretard @Angutoid
 
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I am Atheist so not Muslimcel
 
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But I am gonna enjoy this thread to some music



usic
 
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@Gengar is watching.....
 
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Where did u get this from? Whats ur source?
 
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Mirin the tag though. Two people who'll argue and two people who'll enjoy from the sidelines
 
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To anyone who’s Muslim and wonders why people leave this 70 iq religion Here’s why


The scribe of Muhammad, Abdullah Ibn Sa’d Ibn Abi Sarh also the brother of Othman left Islam. The story is simple. After Muhammad preached for a decade and had no believers, he and his small group of followers were kicked out, and they went to Medina. Since Muhammad was illiterate, he needed a person to write down the Qur’an when revelations came down.


Everything was normal until one day Muhammad finished a verse, and Abdullah was breath-taken and said, “Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators!” (Tafsir al-Qurtubi/ Quran 23:14). Muhammad told him to write that down. This happened multiple times, and Abdullah thought to himself: if this is truly the word of God, then why is Muhammad taking suggestions from a man?


Anyway, after thinking, Abdullah decided to escape Medina, and he left Islam. Upon coming to Makkah, the people were furious at him. Since Muhammad’s followers used to loot caravans, they saw him as a traitor, and they told him, “Why should we let you back into the city?” He told them everything, saying Muhammad is a fraud and that “your religion is better than his.” He even told them the verses where Muhammad took suggestions. One of them is:



“Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators” — Surah Al-Mu’minun (23:14).

This line, according to historical accounts (see Tafsir al-Qurtubi and Ibn Kathir), was reportedly said by Abdullah and then included in the Qur’an, raising his doubts about the divine source.

After that, they let him back in. 5–6 years later, Muhammad gained enough followers and was able to conquer Mecca. He had a list of people he wanted executed even if they were clinging to the fabric of the Kaaba. The list included some women and men. After Muhammad’s soldiers entered Mecca, they immediately executed everyone on that list.



Abdullah was scared, and he hid until tensions went down. After that, Abdullah saw Othman, his foster brother (later a Caliph). Othman loving Abdullah as a brother, took him to Muhammad asking for forgiveness. Muhammad, out of respect, let Abdullah go if Othman wasn’t there, he probably would’ve killed him.



After Othman and Abdullah left, Muhammad spoke to his bodyguards, telling them, “Is there not a man amongst you who would’ve killed this guy?” And they told him, “O Prophet of Allah, how could we have known?”



Is not there any intelligent man among you who would stand to this (man) when he saw me desisting from receiving the oath of allegiance, and kill him? They replied: We do not know, Messenger of Allah, what lies in your heart; did you not give us an hint with your eye? He said: It is not proper for a Prophet to have a treacherous eye.

(Sunan Abi Dawud 2683)

(Muslim cels before you say the Hadith is daif it’s Sahih graded by Sheikh Al Albani 🇦🇱 رَحِمَهُ اللَّهُ one of the best scholars)

Many Muslims will claim that since he came back to the religion, this story shouldn’t matter but it’s far beyond that. Muhammad would’ve killed Abdullah if it wasn’t for Othman. Anyway, after this, Muhammad died a year or two later. Then Abdullah gained a lot of political power, and at some point, he was the governor of Egypt.


Some tags

@Jason Voorhees @Gengar @loyolaxavvierretard @Angutoid
dnr
 
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To anyone who’s Muslim and wonders why people leave this 70 iq religion Here’s why


The scribe of Muhammad, Abdullah Ibn Sa’d Ibn Abi Sarh also the brother of Othman left Islam. The story is simple. After Muhammad preached for a decade and had no believers, he and his small group of followers were kicked out, and they went to Medina. Since Muhammad was illiterate, he needed a person to write down the Qur’an when revelations came down.


Everything was normal until one day Muhammad finished a verse, and Abdullah was breath-taken and said, “Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators!” (Tafsir al-Qurtubi/ Quran 23:14). Muhammad told him to write that down. This happened multiple times, and Abdullah thought to himself: if this is truly the word of God, then why is Muhammad taking suggestions from a man?


Anyway, after thinking, Abdullah decided to escape Medina, and he left Islam. Upon coming to Makkah, the people were furious at him. Since Muhammad’s followers used to loot caravans, they saw him as a traitor, and they told him, “Why should we let you back into the city?” He told them everything, saying Muhammad is a fraud and that “your religion is better than his.” He even told them the verses where Muhammad took suggestions. One of them is:



“Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators” — Surah Al-Mu’minun (23:14).

This line, according to historical accounts (see Tafsir al-Qurtubi and Ibn Kathir), was reportedly said by Abdullah and then included in the Qur’an, raising his doubts about the divine source.

After that, they let him back in. 5–6 years later, Muhammad gained enough followers and was able to conquer Mecca. He had a list of people he wanted executed even if they were clinging to the fabric of the Kaaba. The list included some women and men. After Muhammad’s soldiers entered Mecca, they immediately executed everyone on that list.



Abdullah was scared, and he hid until tensions went down. After that, Abdullah saw Othman, his foster brother (later a Caliph). Othman loving Abdullah as a brother, took him to Muhammad asking for forgiveness. Muhammad, out of respect, let Abdullah go if Othman wasn’t there, he probably would’ve killed him.



After Othman and Abdullah left, Muhammad spoke to his bodyguards, telling them, “Is there not a man amongst you who would’ve killed this guy?” And they told him, “O Prophet of Allah, how could we have known?”



Is not there any intelligent man among you who would stand to this (man) when he saw me desisting from receiving the oath of allegiance, and kill him? They replied: We do not know, Messenger of Allah, what lies in your heart; did you not give us an hint with your eye? He said: It is not proper for a Prophet to have a treacherous eye.

(Sunan Abi Dawud 2683)

(Muslim cels before you say the Hadith is daif it’s Sahih graded by Sheikh Al Albani 🇦🇱 رَحِمَهُ اللَّهُ one of the best scholars)

Many Muslims will claim that since he came back to the religion, this story shouldn’t matter but it’s far beyond that. Muhammad would’ve killed Abdullah if it wasn’t for Othman. Anyway, after this, Muhammad died a year or two later. Then Abdullah gained a lot of political power, and at some point, he was the governor of Egypt.


Some tags

@Jason Voorhees @Gengar @loyolaxavvierretard @Angutoid
High iq lets fight the jew deepstates together now and end all religions
 
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I don’t engage in religious debates anymore.
 
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Ya ali curse this kafir
 
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If your making claims with no evidence, that proves your ignorance, not debating you
Clearly you didn’t read what I wrote I provided all the sources needed I gave you Hadith, Quran and tafsir is that not enough ?
 
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How are you a murtadcuck or kafircel yet you know more Arabic than me? :ROFLMAO:
 
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dnr but good shit Islam is so retarded left it like 2 months ago but still lurk as a Muslim to not get in trouble
 
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why did bro say رَحِمَهُ اللَّهُ if he doesnt believe in allah
 
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Clearly you didn’t read what I wrote I provided all the sources needed I gave you Hadith, Quran and tafsir is that not enough ?
From your so called story about Abdullah there’s no source
 
How are you a murtadcuck or kafircel yet you know more Arabic than me? :ROFLMAO:
I grew up as a Salafi, went to madrasah, and spent years reading Islamic books. I actually enjoy learning about Islam including its history. and I still attend weekly study circles in my local masjid
 
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I grew up as a Salafi, went to madrasah, and spent years reading Islamic books. I actually enjoy learning about Islam including its history. and I still attend weekly study circles in my local masjid
Were you a degenerate before becoming salafi? All the salafists I knew were former degenerates. They disgust me. No offense.
 
Were you a degenerate before becoming salafi? All the salafists I knew were former degenerates. They disgust me. No offense.
No I was always Muslim
 
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get ready for cuck org muslims attacking you with their nonsense inferences they got out of your thread, the same way they do with "their religion"
excluding @Gengar i like him but i dont like the cards hes playing
we just have history ❤️
 
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get ready for cuck org muslims attacking you with their nonsense inferences they got out of your thread, the same way they do with "their religion"
excluding @Gengar i like him but i dont like the cards hes playing
we just have history ❤️
Thanks bhai. 🥰
 
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High iq lets fight the jew deepstates together now and end all religions
Christian’s especially catholics are the biggest Jewish cucks honestly Islam hates the Yahuud which is another reason I like it

Fuck usury
 
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Everything was normal until one day Muhammad finished a verse, and Abdullah was breath-taken and said, “Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators!” (Tafsir al-Qurtubi/ Quran 23:14). Muhammad told him to write that down. This happened multiple times, and Abdullah thought to himself: if this is truly the word of God, then why is Muhammad taking suggestions from a man?
معنى الآية كان يدل على ما سيأتي بعدها، مثال: عندما يذكر الرحمة بالآية يأتي بعدها وكان الله غفوراّ رحيماً ، وعندما يذكر العذاب يأتي بعدها أن الله شديد العقاب.
مثال اخر: اذا كنت انت تفكر بشيء وأتى شخص اخر وقال لك ما ستقوله او فكرتك، هل يعني أنه اقترح عليك او قرأ أفكارك؟
 
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معنى الآية كان يدل على ما سيأتي بعدها، مثال: عندما يذكر الرحمة بالآية يأتي بعدها وكان الله غفوراّ رحيماً ، وعندما يذكر العذاب يأتي بعدها أن الله شديد العقاب.
مثال اخر: اذا كنت انت تفكر بشيء وأتى شخص اخر وقال لك ما ستقوله او فكرتك، هل يعني أنه اقترح عليك او قرأ أفكارك؟
Good point
 
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To anyone who’s Muslim and wonders why people leave this 70 iq religion Here’s why


The scribe of Muhammad, Abdullah Ibn Sa’d Ibn Abi Sarh also the brother of Othman left Islam. The story is simple. After Muhammad preached for a decade and had no believers, he and his small group of followers were kicked out, and they went to Medina. Since Muhammad was illiterate, he needed a person to write down the Qur’an when revelations came down.


Everything was normal until one day Muhammad finished a verse, and Abdullah was breath-taken and said, “Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators!” (Tafsir al-Qurtubi/ Quran 23:14). Muhammad told him to write that down. This happened multiple times, and Abdullah thought to himself: if this is truly the word of God, then why is Muhammad taking suggestions from a man?


Anyway, after thinking, Abdullah decided to escape Medina, and he left Islam. Upon coming to Makkah, the people were furious at him. Since Muhammad’s followers used to loot caravans, they saw him as a traitor, and they told him, “Why should we let you back into the city?” He told them everything, saying Muhammad is a fraud and that “your religion is better than his.” He even told them the verses where Muhammad took suggestions. One of them is:



“Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators” — Surah Al-Mu’minun (23:14).

This line, according to historical accounts (see Tafsir al-Qurtubi and Ibn Kathir), was reportedly said by Abdullah and then included in the Qur’an, raising his doubts about the divine source.

After that, they let him back in. 5–6 years later, Muhammad gained enough followers and was able to conquer Mecca. He had a list of people he wanted executed even if they were clinging to the fabric of the Kaaba. The list included some women and men. After Muhammad’s soldiers entered Mecca, they immediately executed everyone on that list.



Abdullah was scared, and he hid until tensions went down. After that, Abdullah saw Othman, his foster brother (later a Caliph). Othman loving Abdullah as a brother, took him to Muhammad asking for forgiveness. Muhammad, out of respect, let Abdullah go if Othman wasn’t there, he probably would’ve killed him.



After Othman and Abdullah left, Muhammad spoke to his bodyguards, telling them, “Is there not a man amongst you who would’ve killed this guy?” And they told him, “O Prophet of Allah, how could we have known?”



Is not there any intelligent man among you who would stand to this (man) when he saw me desisting from receiving the oath of allegiance, and kill him? They replied: We do not know, Messenger of Allah, what lies in your heart; did you not give us an hint with your eye? He said: It is not proper for a Prophet to have a treacherous eye.

(Sunan Abi Dawud 2683)

(Muslim cels before you say the Hadith is daif it’s Sahih graded by Sheikh Al Albani 🇦🇱 رَحِمَهُ اللَّهُ one of the best scholars)

Many Muslims will claim that since he came back to the religion, this story shouldn’t matter but it’s far beyond that. Muhammad would’ve killed Abdullah if it wasn’t for Othman. Anyway, after this, Muhammad died a year or two later. Then Abdullah gained a lot of political power, and at some point, he was the governor of Egypt.


Some tags

@Jason Voorhees @Gengar @loyolaxavvierretard @Angutoid
Who even wanna debate this shit

Muslim is a sect for ugly faggots that wanna legalize killing people

This retards should die

I wanna see Muslim genocide badly :Comfy:
 
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Muslim is a sect for ugly faggots that wanna legalize killing people

This retards should die

I wanna see Muslim genocide badly :Comfy:
"Mu-muslim want to kill us, hope they die" :feelswah::feelswah::feelswah:
 
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To anyone who’s Muslim and wonders why people leave this 70 iq religion Here’s why


The scribe of Muhammad, Abdullah Ibn Sa’d Ibn Abi Sarh also the brother of Othman left Islam. The story is simple. After Muhammad preached for a decade and had no believers, he and his small group of followers were kicked out, and they went to Medina. Since Muhammad was illiterate, he needed a person to write down the Qur’an when revelations came down.


Everything was normal until one day Muhammad finished a verse, and Abdullah was breath-taken and said, “Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators!” (Tafsir al-Qurtubi/ Quran 23:14). Muhammad told him to write that down. This happened multiple times, and Abdullah thought to himself: if this is truly the word of God, then why is Muhammad taking suggestions from a man?


Anyway, after thinking, Abdullah decided to escape Medina, and he left Islam. Upon coming to Makkah, the people were furious at him. Since Muhammad’s followers used to loot caravans, they saw him as a traitor, and they told him, “Why should we let you back into the city?” He told them everything, saying Muhammad is a fraud and that “your religion is better than his.” He even told them the verses where Muhammad took suggestions. One of them is:



“Blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators” — Surah Al-Mu’minun (23:14).

This line, according to historical accounts (see Tafsir al-Qurtubi and Ibn Kathir), was reportedly said by Abdullah and then included in the Qur’an, raising his doubts about the divine source.

After that, they let him back in. 5–6 years later, Muhammad gained enough followers and was able to conquer Mecca. He had a list of people he wanted executed even if they were clinging to the fabric of the Kaaba. The list included some women and men. After Muhammad’s soldiers entered Mecca, they immediately executed everyone on that list.



Abdullah was scared, and he hid until tensions went down. After that, Abdullah saw Othman, his foster brother (later a Caliph). Othman loving Abdullah as a brother, took him to Muhammad asking for forgiveness. Muhammad, out of respect, let Abdullah go if Othman wasn’t there, he probably would’ve killed him.



After Othman and Abdullah left, Muhammad spoke to his bodyguards, telling them, “Is there not a man amongst you who would’ve killed this guy?” And they told him, “O Prophet of Allah, how could we have known?”



Is not there any intelligent man among you who would stand to this (man) when he saw me desisting from receiving the oath of allegiance, and kill him? They replied: We do not know, Messenger of Allah, what lies in your heart; did you not give us an hint with your eye? He said: It is not proper for a Prophet to have a treacherous eye.

(Sunan Abi Dawud 2683)

(Muslim cels before you say the Hadith is daif it’s Sahih graded by Sheikh Al Albani 🇦🇱 رَحِمَهُ اللَّهُ one of the best scholars)

Many Muslims will claim that since he came back to the religion, this story shouldn’t matter but it’s far beyond that. Muhammad would’ve killed Abdullah if it wasn’t for Othman. Anyway, after this, Muhammad died a year or two later. Then Abdullah gained a lot of political power, and at some point, he was the governor of Egypt.


Some tags

@Jason Voorhees @Gengar @loyolaxavvierretard @Angutoid
I'm agnostic.
 
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