Why iq is a bullshit measurement

[whitebitchslayer]

First let’s start with how iq is calculated:

Iq = mental age / actual age x 100

So let’s say a kid is 10 but meets the standard mental bench mark of what an average 12 year old kid is expected. His iq would be 12/10 x 100, or 120.

Now let’s say that kid gets slightly older and is now 11. His new iq would be 12/11 x 100, or 109.

Now obviously he didn’t get any less intelligent but he went from an iq of 120 which is considered well above average, to an iq of 109 which is in average range.

Iq also varries greatly on age, because the denominator in this equation is your age, the gap at a young age makes such a big difference that having extremely high numbers when young is very easy (even though the person isn’t actually a genius, they will appear to be based on the test)

Finally, iq test can be studied for. This may seem obvious but if a test only tested pure natural intelligence, then no amount of studying or preparing would affect the score. Hence it’s not a true measure of intelligence.

Before I get replies saying I’m coping: I have iq over 130 and am in MENSA so it would be in my favor to support iq being a primary measure of intelligence.

 

[Deleted member 88030]

Iq determined/defined by selecting some shapes is reductionistic

 

[whitebitchslayer]

Iq determined/defined by selecting some shapes is reductionistic

Google iq tests aren’t real

 

[Deleted member 88030]

Google iq tests aren’t real

Mensa too is shape-based test

 

[WhiteMan]

Do you control the Static?

 

[alriodai]

indeed, but the funny shit is some niggas dont even know the defintion of IQ
some niggas think that just using big words and talking in an intellectual/author style means ur high iq

 

[_MVP_]

Finally, iq test can be studied for. This may seem obvious but if a test only tested pure natural intelligence, then no amount of studying or preparing would affect the score. Hence it’s not a true measure of intelligence.

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[Deleted member 45794]

Iq determined/defined by selecting some shapes is reductionistic

There are comprehensive tests for more than just recognising sequences

But it's all essentially just measurement of cognitive ability

Which would still be a beneficial measurement

It's not a measure of intelligence at all, it's something else entirely but people mistake the two.

indeed, but the funny shit is some niggas dont even know the defintion of IQ
some niggas think that just using big words and talking in an intellectual/author style means ur high iq

This is also true

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

First let’s start with how iq is calculated:

Iq = mental age / actual age x 100

So let’s say a kid is 10 but meets the standard mental bench mark of what an average 12 year old kid is expected. His iq would be 12/10 x 100, or 120.

Now let’s say that kid gets slightly older and is now 11. His new iq would be 12/11 x 100, or 109.

Now obviously he didn’t get any less intelligent but he went from an iq of 120 which is considered well above average, to an iq of 109 which is in average range.

Iq also varries greatly on age, because the denominator in this equation is your age, the gap at a young age makes such a big difference that having extremely high numbers when young is very easy (even though the person isn’t actually a genius, they will appear to be based on the test)

Finally, iq test can be studied for. This may seem obvious but if a test only tested pure natural intelligence, then no amount of studying or preparing would affect the score. Hence it’s not a true measure of intelligence.

Before I get replies saying I’m coping: I have iq over 130 and am in MENSA so it would be in my favor to support iq being a primary measure of intelligence.

Tales

 

[whitebitchslayer]

indeed, but the funny shit is some niggas dont even know the defintion of IQ
some niggas think that just using big words and talking in an intellectual/author style means ur high iq

This is so true it’s funny when I say niggers say shit like “battle iq”

 

[whitebitchslayer]

Mensa too is shape-based test

There’s more than that

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Also iq tests will adjust for age

 

[whitebitchslayer]

Also iq tests will adjust for age

Do you mean to make them more accurate?

 

[_MVP_]

iq test is bullshit, because someone can score higher than me on a certain test, and i will still be smarter than that person

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Do you mean to make them more accurate?

Yes

 

[whitebitchslayer]

iq test is bullshit, because someone can score higher than me on a certain test, and i will still be smarter than that person

There is a popular story on Reddit of a marine who was responsible for giving iq tests. He gave so many that when it was his turn he scored higher than anyone else in the history of the U.S. military. Is he the smartest person on our planet? No. Iq debunked

 

[whitebitchslayer]

Yes

I mean not rly it all uses the same formula

 

[whitebitchslayer]

Do you control the Static?

Schizo

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

I mean not rly it all uses the same formula

They dont use that formula the age and mental age thing is an old thing
𓀐𓂸

 

[WhiteMan]

Schizo

You don't control the Static.

 

[_MVP_]

There is a popular story on Reddit of a marine who was responsible for giving iq tests. He gave so many that when it was his turn he scored higher than anyone else in the history of the U.S. military. Is he the smartest person on our planet? No. Iq debunked

btw, vegeta

Theory of multiple intelligences - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[got.daim]

bro got 80 IQ and got so pissed he made a debunking thread lmao

lets see if we can make the most repped thread of all time

looksmax.org

 

[whitebitchslayer]

They dont use that formula the age and mental age thing is an old thing
𓀐𓂸

They definitely do still use it

 

[_MVP_]

@whitebitchslayer u might find it . also a bonus from me: iq tests dont measure the potential, they just measure the static snapshot of the moment. my endgame iq potential might be otherworldly but current is lackative.

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give reasons why iq tests dont measure intelligence

ChatGPT:​

IQ tests are often criticized for not fully measuring intelligence due to several limitations. Here are some key reasons:

1. Narrow Definition of Intelligence​

IQ tests typically focus on specific cognitive skills such as logical reasoning, mathematical ability, spatial awareness, and language proficiency. However, intelligence encompasses a much broader range of abilities, including creativity, emotional intelligence, practical problem-solving, and social understanding, which are not adequately captured by standard IQ tests.

2. Cultural Bias​

IQ tests may favor individuals from certain cultural or socioeconomic backgrounds, as they often reflect the values, knowledge, and experiences of the test developers. This can disadvantage individuals from different cultural or linguistic backgrounds, leading to inaccurate assessments.

3. Focus on Academic Skills​

IQ tests are often designed with an academic lens, which may not reflect real-world intelligence. Practical intelligence, such as the ability to navigate social dynamics or adapt to changing environments, is not well represented in these tests.

4. Context Dependence​

Intelligence is context-dependent and varies depending on the environment and circumstances. For instance, someone might excel in solving practical problems in one situation but struggle with abstract reasoning in another. IQ tests cannot account for this variability.

5. Impact of Non-Cognitive Factors​

Performance on IQ tests can be influenced by factors such as motivation, test anxiety, physical health, sleep, and socioeconomic stress. These factors can skew the results and do not necessarily reflect a person's true cognitive potential.

6. Dynamic and Multifaceted Nature of Intelligence​

Intelligence is not a fixed trait; it evolves over time and can be influenced by education, life experiences, and personal growth. IQ tests, being static assessments, cannot capture this dynamic nature.

7. Overemphasis on "g" (General Intelligence)​

IQ tests are often designed to measure a general intelligence factor ("g"), which assumes that all cognitive abilities are correlated. However, many psychologists argue that intelligence is better understood as a collection of multiple distinct intelligences (e.g., Gardner's Theory of Multiple Intelligences).

8. Lack of Creativity and Divergent Thinking​

IQ tests emphasize convergent thinking (finding a single correct answer) rather than divergent thinking (generating multiple solutions or creative ideas). This makes them inadequate for assessing creativity, which is a critical aspect of intelligence.

9. Ethical and Social Implications​

The results of IQ tests can sometimes lead to labeling, stereotyping, or discrimination, which may not accurately reflect a person's potential or capabilities. Intelligence is a complex and multifaceted trait that cannot be reduced to a single score.
In short, while IQ tests can provide insights into certain cognitive abilities, they fall short in capturing the full spectrum of human intelligence, which is diverse, multifaceted, and deeply influenced by personal and contextual factors.

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Du:​

do you have more

ChatGPT:​

Absolutely, there are additional reasons why IQ tests are criticized for not fully capturing the complexity of intelligence. Here’s more to consider:

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10. Ignores Emotional and Social Intelligence​

IQ tests do not assess emotional intelligence (EQ), which involves the ability to understand, manage, and express emotions effectively. EQ plays a crucial role in interpersonal relationships, empathy, self-regulation, and decision-making, which are vital aspects of intelligence in social and personal contexts.

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11. Fails to Address Practical Intelligence​

Practical intelligence, often referred to as "street smarts," involves solving real-world problems and adapting to everyday challenges. IQ tests typically lack tasks or scenarios that measure this form of intelligence, which can be more important than academic intelligence in many life situations.

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12. Creativity is Overlooked​

Creativity, which involves generating novel ideas, thinking outside the box, and solving problems in unique ways, is not assessed by IQ tests. Creativity is a critical component of intelligence, especially in fields like art, innovation, and entrepreneurship.

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13. Static and Snapshot Nature of Testing​

IQ tests provide a one-time snapshot of cognitive abilities rather than a dynamic view. Intelligence is fluid and can change over time due to factors like education, training, environment, and experiences. A single test score cannot capture this growth or potential.

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14. Overemphasis on Speed​

Many IQ tests include time limits, emphasizing the speed of problem-solving. This can disadvantage individuals who think deeply or methodically rather than quickly, even though both approaches are valid forms of intelligence.

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15. Limited Scope of Measured Abilities​

IQ tests focus heavily on analytical and logical reasoning but largely ignore other domains such as kinesthetic intelligence (coordination and body control), musical intelligence, or naturalistic intelligence (ability to relate to the natural world). These are just as valid components of intelligence, especially in specific professions or lifestyles.

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16. Influence of Test-Taking Skills​

Performance on IQ tests can be affected by familiarity with test formats, prior experience with similar questions, and overall test-taking strategies. These factors often reflect learned skills rather than innate intelligence.

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17. Fails to Account for Motivation and Perseverance​

Grit, determination, and the ability to persist in the face of challenges are critical factors in real-world success. IQ tests do not measure these traits, which often play a larger role in achieving goals than raw cognitive ability.

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18. Limited Usefulness Across Different Fields​

While IQ tests may predict success in academic or technical fields, they are less relevant in fields requiring high creativity, empathy, or hands-on skills. Intelligence varies in how it manifests depending on the context and career path.

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19. Ignores Cultural and Environmental Influences on Intelligence​

IQ is shaped by environmental factors, including access to education, nutrition, and mental stimulation. IQ tests often fail to differentiate between innate potential and the influence of these external factors.

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20. Potential for Misuse​

Historically, IQ tests have been misused to justify discriminatory practices, such as eugenics or limiting educational opportunities for certain groups. This history demonstrates their limitations as an unbiased or universal measure of intelligence.

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21. Doesn’t Reflect Adaptive Intelligence​

Adaptability—the ability to adjust to new environments, challenges, or technologies—is a crucial aspect of intelligence. IQ tests do not adequately assess how well someone can learn, unlearn, or adapt to new situations, which are critical in an ever-changing world.

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22. Reductionist Approach​

IQ tests attempt to distill something as complex as human intelligence into a single number. This oversimplification ignores the multidimensional nature of intelligence and fails to capture its richness and diversity.

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In summary, IQ tests are just one tool for measuring certain cognitive abilities. Intelligence, however, is a complex, multidimensional trait influenced by various factors that extend far beyond the scope of these tests. They are a piece of the puzzle but not the full picture.

 

[whitebitchslayer]

bro got 80 IQ and got so pissed he made a debunking thread lmao

lets see if we can make the most repped thread of all time

looksmax.org

Bro didn’t read the last sentance

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

They definitely do still use it

No they dont

 

[whitebitchslayer]

No they dont

It only takes a Google search bro

 

[got.daim]

Bro didn’t read the last sentance

rep this shit nigga

lets see if we can make the most repped thread of all time

looksmax.org

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

It only takes a Google search bro

It doesnt

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

It doesnt

I mean that formula isnt the one they use

 

[Naka_Cuiki]

First of all measuring your IQ by the first formula you mentioned is the most bullshit thing you can do to actually measure you IQ.
And what do you mean by natural intelligence? For example imagine someone has a genius kid who can play piano solve math and knows 3 language. By your words natural intelligence is skills that we knew already when we born. But that's simply not true. If that kid was never brought to an actual world and never learned something he wouldn't have been genius. Natural intelligence is just potential of your understanding of the world, it's not something you knew already when you born. Natural intelligence only decreases the time needed to learn something.

 

[Xsane]

Measuring intelligence by a number is a low IQ move