Why is Islam represented by a crescent and star?

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Why is Islam represented by a crescent and star? unlike the cross there doesnt seem to be significance of a crescent and star in Islam
 
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Its satanic
 
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I think it's Turkic/Greek in origin (so preIslamic) and mainly become promoted by Ottomans. Despite its non-Islamic origin It became 'Islamic' in opposition to the cross of Christcucks and star of David symbol for (((them))).
 
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SecularIslamist said:
I think it's Turkic/Greek in origin (so preIslamic) and mainly become promoted by Ottomans. Despite its non-Islamic origin It became 'Islamic' in opposition to the cross of Christcucks and star of David symbol for (((them))).
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apparently the Ottomans started using it to counter the Christian cross during crusades, and converted Churches by replacing the cross with the crescent even tho it isnt islamic in nature

The crescent and star is the symbol of Ishtar or something in some old turkish religion
 
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It's quite simple. The crescent moon was the symbol of Constantinople. When the Turks took over and renamed the city Istanbul, the sultan Mehmet II actually liked Byzantine culture and decided to continue a lot of the traditions of the Byzantines. Then it became associated with Islam since the Turks were the main Islamic power after that. The same thing applies to the dome-shaped mosques all over the Islamic world, because that's how Byzantine cathedrals were built and the Muslim architects were inspired by them. It's sort of like how the eagle (aquila) was a distinctly Roman symbol they would use on their flags and standards, then the Germans started using it after the Germanic tribes conquered Rome to the point where the eagle is more associated with Germany. It's half paying respect to a defeated enemy with whom you had many fierce battles, the other half is a "fuck you, this is ours now".
 
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The moon and the star is not Islamic, it’s the symbol of the Ottoman Empire, originally it’s even older than the ottomans, the actual Islamic symbol is the Shahada
 
There's a lot of focus on the moon with lunar cycles to measure time. Prophet Muhammad allegedly split the moon in half and rode through the moonlight night sky on a Buraq.
But I don't study Islam so that's just my surface level guess.
 
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Moon worship has been practiced in Arabia since 2000 BC. The crescent moon is the most common symbol of this pagan moon worship as far back as 2000 BC. In Mecca, there was a god named Hubal who was Lord of the Kabah.
  • This Hubal was a moon god.
  • One Muslim apologist confessed that the idol of moon god Hubal was placed upon the roof of the Kaba about 400 years before Muhammad. This may in fact be the origin of why the crescent moon is on top of every minaret at the Kaba today and the central symbol of Islam atop of every mosque throughout the world:
  • About four hundred years before the birth of Muhammad one Amr bin Lahyo ... a descendant of Qahtan and king of Hijaz, had put an idol called Hubal on the roof of the Kaba. This was one of the chief deities of the Quraish before Islam. (Muhammad The Holy Prophet, Hafiz Ghulam Sarwar (Pakistan), p 18-19, Muslim)
  • The moon god was also referred to as "al-ilah". This is not a proper name of a single specific god, but a generic reference meaning "the god". Each local pagan Arab tribe would refer to their own local tribal pagan god as "al-ilah".
  • "al-ilah" was later shortened to Allah before Muhammad began promoting his new religion in 610 AD.
  • There is evidence that Hubal was referred to as "Allah".
  • When Muhammad came along, he dropped all references to the name "Hubal" but retained the generic "Allah".
  • Muhammad retained almost all the pagan(carnal ordinance that does not "earn" salvation) rituals of the Arabs at the Kaba and redefined them in monotheistic terms.
  • Regardless of the specifics of the facts, it is clear that Islam is derived from paganism that once worshiped a moon-god.
  • Although Islam is today a monotheist religion, its roots are in paganism.""
  • The use of the crescent moon and star as symbols actually pre-dates Islam by several thousand years. Information on the origins of the symbol are difficult to confirm, but most sources agree that these ancient celestial symbols were in use by the peoples of Central Asia and Siberia in their worship of the sun, moon and sky gods. There are also reports that the crescent moon and star were used to represent the Carthaginian goddess Tanit or the Greek goddess Diana.""""
 
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dreamcake1mo said:
Moon worship has been practiced in Arabia since 2000 BC. The crescent moon is the most common symbol of this pagan moon worship as far back as 2000 BC. In Mecca, there was a god named Hubal who was Lord of the Kabah.
  • This Hubal was a moon god.
  • One Muslim apologist confessed that the idol of moon god Hubal was placed upon the roof of the Kaba about 400 years before Muhammad. This may in fact be the origin of why the crescent moon is on top of every minaret at the Kaba today and the central symbol of Islam atop of every mosque throughout the world:
  • About four hundred years before the birth of Muhammad one Amr bin Lahyo ... a descendant of Qahtan and king of Hijaz, had put an idol called Hubal on the roof of the Kaba. This was one of the chief deities of the Quraish before Islam. (Muhammad The Holy Prophet, Hafiz Ghulam Sarwar (Pakistan), p 18-19, Muslim)
  • The moon god was also referred to as "al-ilah". This is not a proper name of a single specific god, but a generic reference meaning "the god". Each local pagan Arab tribe would refer to their own local tribal pagan god as "al-ilah".
  • "al-ilah" was later shortened to Allah before Muhammad began promoting his new religion in 610 AD.
  • There is evidence that Hubal was referred to as "Allah".
  • When Muhammad came along, he dropped all references to the name "Hubal" but retained the generic "Allah".
  • Muhammad retained almost all the pagan(carnal ordinance that does not "earn" salvation) rituals of the Arabs at the Kaba and redefined them in monotheistic terms.
  • Regardless of the specifics of the facts, it is clear that Islam is derived from paganism that once worshiped a moon-god.
  • Although Islam is today a monotheist religion, its roots are in paganism.""
  • The use of the crescent moon and star as symbols actually pre-dates Islam by several thousand years. Information on the origins of the symbol are difficult to confirm, but most sources agree that these ancient celestial symbols were in use by the peoples of Central Asia and Siberia in their worship of the sun, moon and sky gods. There are also reports that the crescent moon and star were used to represent the Carthaginian goddess Tanit or the Greek goddess Diana.""""
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At least Allah wasn’t too weak to defend himself against the Romans
 
Its from the ottoman empire and its shirk
 
It actually isnt a symbol for Islam, dating back to the prophets period, we used black and white flags with the qalima written on it to represent Islam
 
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thenewhebbe said:
Its from the ottoman empire and its shirk
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RAMU KAKA said:
It actually isnt a symbol for Islam, dating back to the prophets period, we used black and white flags with the qalima written on it to represent Islam
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brutal tbh, i guess having it on flags is bearable but they use that symbol on top of mosques now
 
positivecoper said:
brutal tbh, i guess having it on flags is bearable but they use that symbol on top of mosques now
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Muslim people worship graves of dead people too, its called bid'ah which means innovation in Islam
 
RAMU KAKA said:
Muslim people worship graves of dead people too, its called bid'ah which means innovation in Islam
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isnt that a south asian muslim cultural practice only? i dont think arabs do it
 
positivecoper said:
isnt that a south asian muslim cultural practice only? i dont think arabs do it
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Yeah, yeah arabs dont do it, maybe its punishable with death. Serves them right
 
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should have been tits and balls
 
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It's from pagan pre islamic religions. The goddess Astartes symbol was the crescent. In the bible she is associated with the Demon lillith. Adams first wife.

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It came from the Byzantine empire and the Umayyads who conquered eastern Anatolia adopted it. The ottomans who conquered the entirety of Byzantium adopted it as the strongest empire in the Islamic world for 5 centuries
 
Muslims aka the most unoriginal fucks to ever exist
 
dreamcake1mo said:
Moon worship has been practiced in Arabia since 2000 BC. The crescent moon is the most common symbol of this pagan moon worship as far back as 2000 BC. In Mecca, there was a god named Hubal who was Lord of the Kabah.
  • This Hubal was a moon god.
  • One Muslim apologist confessed that the idol of moon god Hubal was placed upon the roof of the Kaba about 400 years before Muhammad. This may in fact be the origin of why the crescent moon is on top of every minaret at the Kaba today and the central symbol of Islam atop of every mosque throughout the world:
  • About four hundred years before the birth of Muhammad one Amr bin Lahyo ... a descendant of Qahtan and king of Hijaz, had put an idol called Hubal on the roof of the Kaba. This was one of the chief deities of the Quraish before Islam. (Muhammad The Holy Prophet, Hafiz Ghulam Sarwar (Pakistan), p 18-19, Muslim)
  • The moon god was also referred to as "al-ilah". This is not a proper name of a single specific god, but a generic reference meaning "the god". Each local pagan Arab tribe would refer to their own local tribal pagan god as "al-ilah".
  • "al-ilah" was later shortened to Allah before Muhammad began promoting his new religion in 610 AD.
  • There is evidence that Hubal was referred to as "Allah".
  • When Muhammad came along, he dropped all references to the name "Hubal" but retained the generic "Allah".
  • Muhammad retained almost all the pagan(carnal ordinance that does not "earn" salvation) rituals of the Arabs at the Kaba and redefined them in monotheistic terms.
  • Regardless of the specifics of the facts, it is clear that Islam is derived from paganism that once worshiped a moon-god.
  • Although Islam is today a monotheist religion, its roots are in paganism.""
  • The use of the crescent moon and star as symbols actually pre-dates Islam by several thousand years. Information on the origins of the symbol are difficult to confirm, but most sources agree that these ancient celestial symbols were in use by the peoples of Central Asia and Siberia in their worship of the sun, moon and sky gods. There are also reports that the crescent moon and star were used to represent the Carthaginian goddess Tanit or the Greek goddess Diana.""""
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Where u got source from i assume it is from anti islamic web
 
Brownskink said:
Where u got source from i assume it is from anti islamic web
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Anti islamic web? Im not quite following you on that. I am religious but i dont associate myself with any religion. This is not biased. I just try to find the truth.

Whether its the truth or not just dyor on the data provided.

Theres tons of people above that are referencing similar inconsistencies, especially the origins of the moon symbol. Im not the only person who researched and found these.
 
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Islam doesn’t have any symbols associated with it crescent and Star are ottoman. It’s discouraged to associate Islam with symbols
 
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positivecoper said:
Why is Islam represented by a crescent and star? unlike the cross there doesnt seem to be significance of a crescent and star in Islam
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The ottoman Turks were the first ones to use that. Bascislly it’s a Turkic people’s things but as they had big influence in the Middle East due to their empires it took over and influenced NAFRIland and the levant
 
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Muslism worship a moon deity, Jews worship Saturn, and Christian worship the Sun
 
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Manchild said:
It came from the Byzantine empire and the Umayyads who conquered eastern Anatolia adopted it. The ottomans who conquered the entirety of Byzantium adopted it as the strongest empire in the Islamic world for 5 centuries
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House Lannister said:
Islam doesn’t have any symbols associated with it crescent and Star are ottoman. It’s discouraged to associate Islam with symbols
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Lol @ these idiots posting in this thread with no knowledge of Islam just spouting nonsense. And then there’s us with knowledge of the topic and how it came from ottomans being left with the least reps
 
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The crescent and star has no actual original religious meaning to Islam and was something that the turks first started. Them being the most profilic muslim race especially cause they were the most effective at combating against European Christians for the longest time (the ottoman empire), other Muslim races looked up to them and so the crescent and star became something of a rallying symbol among which all Muslims could rally around.

Back in Muhammad's time they did use flags for battle but these were plain solid colored black, white, and green banners with no symbolism or anything on them. The isis flag is the most truly REAL Islamic symbol in recent history because it's a black flag with the shahada on it (the prayer you have to say in order to proffess yourself as being muslim)
 
lol at theh absolute braindead normie hylic brainwashed retards trying to make out of it as 'an adopted symbol' no it isn't

remember this, LOL

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TRUE_CEL said:
I have no idea. ☠️

@emeraldglass do you know?
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There is no basis in Sharia to take the crescent or star as a symbol of the Muslims. This was not known at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), or at the time of the Khulafa al-Raashidoon (the first four leaders of Islam after the death of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). with him) pointed to him), or during the time of the Umawis (Umayyad dynasty). It came into existence some time after, and historians differ on when this symbol was first adopted and who was the first to adopt it. Some say it was the Persians, others say it was the Greeks and somehow this symbol was passed on to the Muslims.

It was said that the reason why the Muslims adopted the crescent moon was that when they conquered some western countries, the churches there had crosses, the Muslims replaced the crosses with this crescent moon, and the practice spread in this way. Be that as it may, symbols and banners should be in accordance with the teachings of Islam, and since there is no evidence that this symbol is prescribed by Islam, it is better not to use it. Neither the crescent nor the star are symbols of the Muslims, even though some Muslims use them as symbols.
 
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Muslism worship a moon deity, Jews worship Saturn, and Christian worship the Sun
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The source/content of the religions remain, its just the application, the intent of worship and modern times

Confused at people who are trying to defend against the data on the associations. I mean, they do know they can just have faith and love god without creating an identity with religion right?

“islam” “christianity” etc are modern words, and modern applications of the source knowledge. Why they are defending against their religion is exactly why people should be cautious of religion in the first place. - Its highly vulnerable to becoming a product of the times. Who knows, maybe the ottomans or modern leaders really did take a bunch of authentic scriptures to fit their creation. Is someone wrong to associate the moon symbol with islam when islam itself is associated with the moon symbol.

Only way to safeguard against this is to associate less with the product and know more of the content.

i think its infact correct to say islam is connected to the moon symbol, considering in modern times thats what it associate itself with. The religion of “Islam” Its a product, not the ingredient. If someone wants to sue or slander mcdonalds for starving kids in africa then perhaps they are on to something, but nobody can sue or say the same to the beef and lettuce.
 
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Those are occult signs
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But a cross that is a torture device isnt satanic and evil?

i mean stars and moon were created by God and the cross by men ?non ?
 
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emeraldglass said:
There is no basis in Sharia to take the crescent or star as a symbol of the Muslims. This was not known at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), or at the time of the Khulafa al-Raashidoon (the first four leaders of Islam after the death of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). with him) pointed to him), or during the time of the Umawis (Umayyad dynasty). It came into existence some time after, and historians differ on when this symbol was first adopted and who was the first to adopt it. Some say it was the Persians, others say it was the Greeks and somehow this symbol was passed on to the Muslims.

It was said that the reason why the Muslims adopted the crescent moon was that when they conquered some western countries, the churches there had crosses, the Muslims replaced the crosses with this crescent moon, and the practice spread in this way. Be that as it may, symbols and banners should be in accordance with the teachings of Islam, and since there is no evidence that this symbol is prescribed by Islam, it is better not to use it. Neither the crescent nor the star are symbols of the Muslims, even though some Muslims use them as symbols.
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Yes, Pakistan, Turkey and Azerbaijan all used the crescent and star. However what Pakistan does right is having the color as green, similar to Saudi Arabia. The color green is actually mentioned in the Quran and therefore it can be used to symbolize Islam. I don’t remember which surah and verse but it was describing what people in heaven would be wearing.
 
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Muslims are satan worshippers they even worship a stone cube in mekkah
 
dreamcake1mo said:
The source/content of the religions remain, its just the application, the intent of worship and modern times

Confused at people who are trying to defend against the data on the associations. I mean, they do know they can just have faith and love god without creating an identity with religion right?

“islam” “christianity” etc are modern words, and modern applications of the source knowledge. Why they are defending against their religion is exactly why people should be cautious of religion in the first place. - Its highly vulnerable to becoming a product of the times. Who knows, maybe the ottomans or modern leaders really did take a bunch of authentic scriptures to fit their creation. Is someone wrong to associate the moon symbol with islam when islam itself is associated with the moon symbol.

Only way to safeguard against this is to associate less with the product and know more of the content.

i think its infact correct to say islam is connected to the moon symbol, considering in modern times thats what it associate itself with. The religion of “Islam” Its a product, not the ingredient. If someone wants to sue or slander mcdonalds for starving kids in africa then perhaps they are on to something, but nobody can sue or say the same to the beef and lettuce.
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it's that Allah in specific as a personal deity to Islamism is in fact a pre-islamic moon-deity, that's what 'it' is. people can't attach symbolism out of nowhere for no reason either. can you imagine if the symbolism swapped as in Saturnian aspect of Judaism to Christianity or if Islamism used Christian's Solar symbolism? you can't because that doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense in any way as it's another one of those failed thought experiments of 'what if' or think if 'what if gravity was just another way' - it doesn't make sense because there's a match in the core of (each) religion(s) and every way they bleed in expression
 
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