Why Most NDcels Will Never Socialmaxx (and how to actually do it)

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Most NDcels are completely lost when it comes to socialmaxxing.
And its not their fault.

They either

Isolate themselves because of fear.

Try to  copy NT behavior and end up humiliating themselves.

Give up and rot on .is

In this thread I want to give advice specifically for ND autists.

First, what even is being ND?

ND ( neurodivergent) refers to people whose brain processes information differently than the average NT (neurotypical).

This includes things like:

different social processing
difficulty reading social cues
overthinking interactions
 delayed or unnatural responses in conversations
Even difficulty with holding eye contact

This does NOT automatically mean that youre socially doomed, youre gonna have a  rougher time tho.
Your brain just works differently

Examples of autists which learned to control their neurodivergency

Clavicular
1000068830


Elon Musk
1000068831


Both are high IQ individuals.

NTcels rely on automatic pattern recognition when socialy active, this means that they can have 100 conversations and learn to become more social.
A NDcel doesnt rely on that, you could have 100 conversations and be as socialy awkward as before.


So what does that mean for NDcels?
You should stop trying to act NT, you should start to build your own system wich helps YOU.

1

Repetition>
talent
NTcels learn social skills naturally NDcels dont.
Wich means that you need repetition instead of confidence.
"Muhh js be confident" wouldve been good advice, if only we were NT.

Most NDcels fail because

They try to approach girls
Try to get into deep conversations
Try to be interesting (wich often ends in social humiliation)

Next time try to go lighter
Start simple conversations
Short conversations
Or 1 word compliments.

Example
Cashier: That would be 106$
Stupid autist trying to interract: Oh 106$ dollars is alot of money, I worked alot to get 106$
*cashier already gets fucked up*
Stupid autist: How long do you-
Cashier: Syfm and pay
Stupid autist got socialy humiliated and wont try to talk for a whole week after.

This is how it should be for the start
Cashier: That would be 106$
Smart autist: oh damn thats kinda much but here *hands money*
Cashier: Yes, the prices are getting bigger, do you want the change?
Smart autist: No thanks, have a good day.

NO humiliation and the cashier talked back.
Now youve got your ego boost and the next conversation will be easier if you do it the same way.

2

Environment is key.
How do you think improving works? By rotting on puahate?
You have to go outside and surround yourself with other people.
If youre a minor you can go to a mall, or have short talks with strangers.

If youre a adult you can get social jobs wich are key.
Why? Because youre forced to interract with others.
Jobs that I recommend
Club promoter (best one, hard at the start)
Server
Doorman (if youre 185cm++)
Why these jobs?

Most NDcels try to “learn social skills” in theory.
Watching videos, reading guides, overanalyzing.
This does NOT work.
Social skills are built through forced exposure, not knowledge.

1.In these jobs you are FORCED to talk to NTcels.
Not once. Not twice.
dozens of times per day
This bypasses:
overthinking
hesitation
avoidance
You don’t “decide” to talk.
you have to.

2.Perfect for NDcels:
short conversations
simple scripts
repeated patterns
You are not expected to be:
funny
deep
charismatic genius
NTmaxxed
Just:
functional and consistent

3.Instant Feedback Loop
You immediately see:
what works
what doesn’t
No theory (theory is ALWAYS cope)
Just:
action -> reaction -> adjustment

4.You WILL:
get ignored
get weird reactions
say dumb ND bs
But:
you cannot shut down
This builds:
tolerance
emotional stability
social resilience


3

Importants to know:
Not a molecule of a person cares.
Do you remember to wich porn actress you jerked off yesterday? No, you dont
Does anyone remember you even after a wierd interraction? Same thing. No, they dont even care.

Will anyone remember this guy after a week?

NO, and no one will remember you either.

A typical trait among NDcels is that they overfixate on irrelevant things, like people giving wierd looks, looking at you for a bit too long and make a big deal out of it, this destroys NDcels from the inside because they think that the conversation is ruined
But its not.
So how do we fix that?
Do something kinda wierd/cringe outside (doesnt have to include: vomiting, banging your head on walls or extreme actions)

Maybe meow at a girl? (Not responsible for yall if something bad happens :lul:)
She will prob laugh, ignore or smile at you doesnt sound that bad does it?

4

This might be one of the easiest things to improve quickly
OmeTV
But why?
OmeTV is the easiest way to interract with people from home, you can spam OmeTV for 8hrs straight.
Also if something cringe or humiliating happens you can skip at anytime so you wont be as socially insecure, you will be able to do or say things wich you would never do or say in real life.

If even that is too much you can go even easier and download something like c.ai and use the call feauture.
Benefits?

LITERALLY no one cares its just a AI
You can say whatever you want and just restart if you think that youve fucked up.

Downsides

Isnt very reality like, you would have to switch to OmeTV or real life at some point.

5

If youre too autistic for anything of the above to help, you can always get nootropics. (Not recommending, not responsible for anything wich might happen)

My top 3 are

1. Baclofen (anxiety reducer)
2. Adderall (stimulant) (mostly used for studying but can improve focus greatly wich is beneficial for social interactions.)
3. Dihexa

Adderall
A stimulant that increases dopamine and norepinephrine
Effects:
Better focus
More energy
Less inhibition (important)
Will fuck you up long term

Baclofen
A GABA-B agonist (calming effect on the nervous system)
Effects:
reduced anxiety (Important)
more relaxed state (Important)
less social tension (Important)

Dihexa
Experimental compound linked to neuroplasticity (not well studied)

increased brain plasticity
possible cognitive enhancement

Dihexa is used to studymaxx but since it isnt well studied it may have positive effects on socialmaxxing.
Individuals rate it well and say that it helped them being better at deeptalks after long use.

All of these affect your state, not skill.

6

Conclusion
Most NDcels are waiting for the moment where socializing suddenly becomes easy.
That moment will never come.

You will feel awkward, overthink, mess up
But thats normal.

You have to understand that youre different.
NTcels
didnt learn it faster, they were gifted with this benefit.

What I recommend doing after reading this:
Download a AI with a call feature as thats the easiest and most beginner friendly thing listed above.
You dont become social by thinking.
You become social by doing.​
 
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Most NDcels are completely lost when it comes to socialmaxxing.
And its not their fault.

They either

Isolate themselves because of fear.

Try to  copy NT behavior and end up humiliating themselves.

Give up and rot on .is

In this thread I want to give advice specifically for ND autists.

First, what even is being ND?

ND ( neurodivergent) refers to people whose brain processes information differently than the average NT (neurotypical).

This includes things like:

different social processing
difficulty reading social cues
overthinking interactions
 delayed or unnatural responses in conversations
Even difficulty with holding eye contact

This does NOT automatically mean that youre socially doomed, youre gonna have a  rougher time tho.
Your brain just works differently

Examples of autists which learned to control their neurodivergency

Clavicular
View attachment 4886839

Elon Musk
View attachment 4886841

Both are high IQ individuals.

NTcels rely on automatic pattern recognition when socialy active, this means that they can have 100 conversations and learn to become more social.
A NDcel doesnt rely on that, you could have 100 conversations and be as socialy awkward as before.


So what does that mean for NDcels?
You should stop trying to act NT, you should start to build your own system wich helps YOU.

1

Repetition>
talent
NTcels learn social skills naturally NDcels dont.
Wich means that you need repetition instead of confidence.
"Muhh js be confident" wouldve been good advice, if only we were NT.

Most NDcels fail because

They try to approach girls
Try to get into deep conversations
Try to be interesting (wich often ends in social humiliation)

Next time try to go lighter
Start simple conversations
Short conversations
Or 1 word compliments.

Example
Cashier: That would be 106$
Stupid autist trying to interract: Oh 106$ dollars is alot of money, I worked alot to get 106$
*cashier already gets fucked up*
Stupid autist: How long do you-
Cashier: Syfm and pay
Stupid autist got socialy humiliated and wont try to talk for a whole week after.

This is how it should be for the start
Cashier: That would be 106$
Smart autist: oh damn thats kinda much but here *hands money*
Cashier: Yes, the prices are getting bigger, do you want the change?
Smart autist: No thanks, have a good day.

NO humiliation and the cashier talked back.
Now youve got your ego boost and the next conversation will be easier if you do it the same way.

2

Environment is key.
How do you think improving works? By rotting on puahate?
You have to go outside and surround yourself with other people.
If youre a minor you can go to a mall, or have short talks with strangers.

If youre a adult you can get social jobs wich are key.
Why? Because youre forced to interract with others.
Jobs that I recommend
Club promoter (best one, hard at the start)
Server
Doorman (if youre 185cm++)
Why these jobs?

Most NDcels try to “learn social skills” in theory.
Watching videos, reading guides, overanalyzing.
This does NOT work.
Social skills are built through forced exposure, not knowledge.

1.In these jobs you are FORCED to talk to NTcels.
Not once. Not twice.
dozens of times per day
This bypasses:
overthinking
hesitation
avoidance
You don’t “decide” to talk.
you have to.

2.Perfect for NDcels:
short conversations
simple scripts
repeated patterns
You are not expected to be:
funny
deep
charismatic genius
NTmaxxed
Just:
functional and consistent

3.Instant Feedback Loop
You immediately see:
what works
what doesn’t
No theory (theory is ALWAYS cope)
Just:
action -> reaction -> adjustment

4.You WILL:
get ignored
get weird reactions
say dumb ND bs
But:
you cannot shut down
This builds:
tolerance
emotional stability
social resilience


3

Importants to know:
Not a molecule of a person cares.
Do you remember to wich porn actress you jerked off yesterday? No, you dont
Does anyone remember you even after a wierd interraction? Same thing. No, they dont even care.

Will anyone remember this guy after a week?

NO, and no one will remember you either.

A typical trait among NDcels is that they overfixate on irrelevant things, like people giving wierd looks, looking at you for a bit too long and make a big deal out of it, this destroys NDcels from the inside because they think that the conversation is ruined
But its not.
So how do we fix that?
Do something kinda wierd/cringe outside (doesnt have to include: vomiting, banging your head on walls or extreme actions)

Maybe meow at a girl? (Not responsible for yall if something bad happens :lul:)
She will prob laugh, ignore or smile at you doesnt sound that bad does it?

4

This might be one of the easiest things to improve quickly
OmeTV
But why?
OmeTV is the easiest way to interract with people from home, you can spam OmeTV for 8hrs straight.
Also if something cringe or humiliating happens you can skip at anytime so you wont be as socially insecure, you will be able to do or say things wich you would never do or say in real life.

If even that is too much you can go even easier and download something like c.ai and use the call feauture.
Benefits?

LITERALLY no one cares its just a AI
You can say whatever you want and just restart if you think that youve fucked up.

Downsides

Isnt very reality like, you would have to switch to OmeTV or real life at some point.

5

If youre too autistic for anything of the above to help, you can always get nootropics. (Not recommending, not responsible for anything wich might happen)

My top 3 are

1. Baclofen (anxiety reducer)
2. Adderall (stimulant) (mostly used for studying but can improve focus greatly wich is beneficial for social interactions.)
3. Dihexa

Adderall
A stimulant that increases dopamine and norepinephrine
Effects:
Better focus
More energy
Less inhibition (important)
Will fuck you up long term

Baclofen
A GABA-B agonist (calming effect on the nervous system)
Effects:
reduced anxiety (Important)
more relaxed state (Important)
less social tension (Important)

Dihexa
Experimental compound linked to neuroplasticity (not well studied)

increased brain plasticity
possible cognitive enhancement

Dihexa is used to studymaxx but since it isnt well studied it may have positive effects on socialmaxxing.
Individuals rate it well and say that it helped them being better at deeptalks after long use.

All of these affect your state, not skill.

6

Conclusion
Most NDcels are waiting for the moment where socializing suddenly becomes easy.
That moment will never come.

You will feel awkward, overthink, mess up
But thats normal.

You have to understand that youre different.
NTcels
didnt learn it faster, they were gifted with this benefit.

What I recommend doing after reading this:
Download a AI with a call feature as thats the easiest and most beginner friendly thing listed above.
You dont become social by thinking.
You become social by doing.​

good thread can apply for people with shit social skills aswell
 
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D to the N to the R.
 
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Most NDcels are completely lost when it comes to socialmaxxing.
And its not their fault.

They either

Isolate themselves because of fear.

Try to  copy NT behavior and end up humiliating themselves.

Give up and rot on .is

In this thread I want to give advice specifically for ND autists.

First, what even is being ND?

ND ( neurodivergent) refers to people whose brain processes information differently than the average NT (neurotypical).

This includes things like:

different social processing
difficulty reading social cues
overthinking interactions
 delayed or unnatural responses in conversations
Even difficulty with holding eye contact

This does NOT automatically mean that youre socially doomed, youre gonna have a  rougher time tho.
Your brain just works differently

Examples of autists which learned to control their neurodivergency

Clavicular
View attachment 4886839

Elon Musk
View attachment 4886841

Both are high IQ individuals.

NTcels rely on automatic pattern recognition when socialy active, this means that they can have 100 conversations and learn to become more social.
A NDcel doesnt rely on that, you could have 100 conversations and be as socialy awkward as before.


So what does that mean for NDcels?
You should stop trying to act NT, you should start to build your own system wich helps YOU.

1

Repetition>
talent
NTcels learn social skills naturally NDcels dont.
Wich means that you need repetition instead of confidence.
"Muhh js be confident" wouldve been good advice, if only we were NT.

Most NDcels fail because

They try to approach girls
Try to get into deep conversations
Try to be interesting (wich often ends in social humiliation)

Next time try to go lighter
Start simple conversations
Short conversations
Or 1 word compliments.

Example
Cashier: That would be 106$
Stupid autist trying to interract: Oh 106$ dollars is alot of money, I worked alot to get 106$
*cashier already gets fucked up*
Stupid autist: How long do you-
Cashier: Syfm and pay
Stupid autist got socialy humiliated and wont try to talk for a whole week after.

This is how it should be for the start
Cashier: That would be 106$
Smart autist: oh damn thats kinda much but here *hands money*
Cashier: Yes, the prices are getting bigger, do you want the change?
Smart autist: No thanks, have a good day.

NO humiliation and the cashier talked back.
Now youve got your ego boost and the next conversation will be easier if you do it the same way.

2

Environment is key.
How do you think improving works? By rotting on puahate?
You have to go outside and surround yourself with other people.
If youre a minor you can go to a mall, or have short talks with strangers.

If youre a adult you can get social jobs wich are key.
Why? Because youre forced to interract with others.
Jobs that I recommend
Club promoter (best one, hard at the start)
Server
Doorman (if youre 185cm++)
Why these jobs?

Most NDcels try to “learn social skills” in theory.
Watching videos, reading guides, overanalyzing.
This does NOT work.
Social skills are built through forced exposure, not knowledge.

1.In these jobs you are FORCED to talk to NTcels.
Not once. Not twice.
dozens of times per day
This bypasses:
overthinking
hesitation
avoidance
You don’t “decide” to talk.
you have to.

2.Perfect for NDcels:
short conversations
simple scripts
repeated patterns
You are not expected to be:
funny
deep
charismatic genius
NTmaxxed
Just:
functional and consistent

3.Instant Feedback Loop
You immediately see:
what works
what doesn’t
No theory (theory is ALWAYS cope)
Just:
action -> reaction -> adjustment

4.You WILL:
get ignored
get weird reactions
say dumb ND bs
But:
you cannot shut down
This builds:
tolerance
emotional stability
social resilience


3

Importants to know:
Not a molecule of a person cares.
Do you remember to wich porn actress you jerked off yesterday? No, you dont
Does anyone remember you even after a wierd interraction? Same thing. No, they dont even care.

Will anyone remember this guy after a week?

NO, and no one will remember you either.

A typical trait among NDcels is that they overfixate on irrelevant things, like people giving wierd looks, looking at you for a bit too long and make a big deal out of it, this destroys NDcels from the inside because they think that the conversation is ruined
But its not.
So how do we fix that?
Do something kinda wierd/cringe outside (doesnt have to include: vomiting, banging your head on walls or extreme actions)

Maybe meow at a girl? (Not responsible for yall if something bad happens :lul:)
She will prob laugh, ignore or smile at you doesnt sound that bad does it?

4

This might be one of the easiest things to improve quickly
OmeTV
But why?
OmeTV is the easiest way to interract with people from home, you can spam OmeTV for 8hrs straight.
Also if something cringe or humiliating happens you can skip at anytime so you wont be as socially insecure, you will be able to do or say things wich you would never do or say in real life.

If even that is too much you can go even easier and download something like c.ai and use the call feauture.
Benefits?

LITERALLY no one cares its just a AI
You can say whatever you want and just restart if you think that youve fucked up.

Downsides

Isnt very reality like, you would have to switch to OmeTV or real life at some point.

5

If youre too autistic for anything of the above to help, you can always get nootropics. (Not recommending, not responsible for anything wich might happen)

My top 3 are

1. Baclofen (anxiety reducer)
2. Adderall (stimulant) (mostly used for studying but can improve focus greatly wich is beneficial for social interactions.)
3. Dihexa

Adderall
A stimulant that increases dopamine and norepinephrine
Effects:
Better focus
More energy
Less inhibition (important)
Will fuck you up long term

Baclofen
A GABA-B agonist (calming effect on the nervous system)
Effects:
reduced anxiety (Important)
more relaxed state (Important)
less social tension (Important)

Dihexa
Experimental compound linked to neuroplasticity (not well studied)

increased brain plasticity
possible cognitive enhancement

Dihexa is used to studymaxx but since it isnt well studied it may have positive effects on socialmaxxing.
Individuals rate it well and say that it helped them being better at deeptalks after long use.

All of these affect your state, not skill.

6

Conclusion
Most NDcels are waiting for the moment where socializing suddenly becomes easy.
That moment will never come.

You will feel awkward, overthink, mess up
But thats normal.

You have to understand that youre different.
NTcels
didnt learn it faster, they were gifted with this benefit.

What I recommend doing after reading this:
Download a AI with a call feature as thats the easiest and most beginner friendly thing listed above.
You dont become social by thinking.
You become social by doing.​

high effort love to see that in a world of goyims
 
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Most NDcels are completely lost when it comes to socialmaxxing.
And its not their fault.

They either

Isolate themselves because of fear.

Try to  copy NT behavior and end up humiliating themselves.

Give up and rot on .is

In this thread I want to give advice specifically for ND autists.

First, what even is being ND?

ND ( neurodivergent) refers to people whose brain processes information differently than the average NT (neurotypical).

This includes things like:

different social processing
difficulty reading social cues
overthinking interactions
 delayed or unnatural responses in conversations
Even difficulty with holding eye contact

This does NOT automatically mean that youre socially doomed, youre gonna have a  rougher time tho.
Your brain just works differently

Examples of autists which learned to control their neurodivergency

Clavicular
View attachment 4886839

Elon Musk
View attachment 4886841

Both are high IQ individuals.

NTcels rely on automatic pattern recognition when socialy active, this means that they can have 100 conversations and learn to become more social.
A NDcel doesnt rely on that, you could have 100 conversations and be as socialy awkward as before.


So what does that mean for NDcels?
You should stop trying to act NT, you should start to build your own system wich helps YOU.

1

Repetition>
talent
NTcels learn social skills naturally NDcels dont.
Wich means that you need repetition instead of confidence.
"Muhh js be confident" wouldve been good advice, if only we were NT.

Most NDcels fail because

They try to approach girls
Try to get into deep conversations
Try to be interesting (wich often ends in social humiliation)

Next time try to go lighter
Start simple conversations
Short conversations
Or 1 word compliments.

Example
Cashier: That would be 106$
Stupid autist trying to interract: Oh 106$ dollars is alot of money, I worked alot to get 106$
*cashier already gets fucked up*
Stupid autist: How long do you-
Cashier: Syfm and pay
Stupid autist got socialy humiliated and wont try to talk for a whole week after.

This is how it should be for the start
Cashier: That would be 106$
Smart autist: oh damn thats kinda much but here *hands money*
Cashier: Yes, the prices are getting bigger, do you want the change?
Smart autist: No thanks, have a good day.

NO humiliation and the cashier talked back.
Now youve got your ego boost and the next conversation will be easier if you do it the same way.

2

Environment is key.
How do you think improving works? By rotting on puahate?
You have to go outside and surround yourself with other people.
If youre a minor you can go to a mall, or have short talks with strangers.

If youre a adult you can get social jobs wich are key.
Why? Because youre forced to interract with others.
Jobs that I recommend
Club promoter (best one, hard at the start)
Server
Doorman (if youre 185cm++)
Why these jobs?

Most NDcels try to “learn social skills” in theory.
Watching videos, reading guides, overanalyzing.
This does NOT work.
Social skills are built through forced exposure, not knowledge.

1.In these jobs you are FORCED to talk to NTcels.
Not once. Not twice.
dozens of times per day
This bypasses:
overthinking
hesitation
avoidance
You don’t “decide” to talk.
you have to.

2.Perfect for NDcels:
short conversations
simple scripts
repeated patterns
You are not expected to be:
funny
deep
charismatic genius
NTmaxxed
Just:
functional and consistent

3.Instant Feedback Loop
You immediately see:
what works
what doesn’t
No theory (theory is ALWAYS cope)
Just:
action -> reaction -> adjustment

4.You WILL:
get ignored
get weird reactions
say dumb ND bs
But:
you cannot shut down
This builds:
tolerance
emotional stability
social resilience


3

Importants to know:
Not a molecule of a person cares.
Do you remember to wich porn actress you jerked off yesterday? No, you dont
Does anyone remember you even after a wierd interraction? Same thing. No, they dont even care.

Will anyone remember this guy after a week?

NO, and no one will remember you either.

A typical trait among NDcels is that they overfixate on irrelevant things, like people giving wierd looks, looking at you for a bit too long and make a big deal out of it, this destroys NDcels from the inside because they think that the conversation is ruined
But its not.
So how do we fix that?
Do something kinda wierd/cringe outside (doesnt have to include: vomiting, banging your head on walls or extreme actions)

Maybe meow at a girl? (Not responsible for yall if something bad happens :lul:)
She will prob laugh, ignore or smile at you doesnt sound that bad does it?

4

This might be one of the easiest things to improve quickly
OmeTV
But why?
OmeTV is the easiest way to interract with people from home, you can spam OmeTV for 8hrs straight.
Also if something cringe or humiliating happens you can skip at anytime so you wont be as socially insecure, you will be able to do or say things wich you would never do or say in real life.

If even that is too much you can go even easier and download something like c.ai and use the call feauture.
Benefits?

LITERALLY no one cares its just a AI
You can say whatever you want and just restart if you think that youve fucked up.

Downsides

Isnt very reality like, you would have to switch to OmeTV or real life at some point.

5

If youre too autistic for anything of the above to help, you can always get nootropics. (Not recommending, not responsible for anything wich might happen)

My top 3 are

1. Baclofen (anxiety reducer)
2. Adderall (stimulant) (mostly used for studying but can improve focus greatly wich is beneficial for social interactions.)
3. Dihexa

Adderall
A stimulant that increases dopamine and norepinephrine
Effects:
Better focus
More energy
Less inhibition (important)
Will fuck you up long term

Baclofen
A GABA-B agonist (calming effect on the nervous system)
Effects:
reduced anxiety (Important)
more relaxed state (Important)
less social tension (Important)

Dihexa
Experimental compound linked to neuroplasticity (not well studied)

increased brain plasticity
possible cognitive enhancement

Dihexa is used to studymaxx but since it isnt well studied it may have positive effects on socialmaxxing.
Individuals rate it well and say that it helped them being better at deeptalks after long use.

All of these affect your state, not skill.

6

Conclusion
Most NDcels are waiting for the moment where socializing suddenly becomes easy.
That moment will never come.

You will feel awkward, overthink, mess up
But thats normal.

You have to understand that youre different.
NTcels
didnt learn it faster, they were gifted with this benefit.

What I recommend doing after reading this:
Download a AI with a call feature as thats the easiest and most beginner friendly thing listed above.
You dont become social by thinking.
You become social by doing.​

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