Why should we have given rights to blacks?

[Aladin]

Start with equal funding for public defenders

We already provide everyone a public defender.

eliminate cash bail for non-violent offenses,

thats stupid.

 

[̃Star]

We already provide everyone a public defender.

thats stupid.

Yeah, everyone gets a public defender—but not all defenders have the time, resources, or support to actually defend people properly. It’s not about having one it’s about making them effective.

As for cash bail: holding someone in jail for weeks or months just because they’re poor, even if they haven’t been convicted, is what’s actually stupid. Wealth shouldn’t decide who walks free before trial.

If you have any better ideas to fix any current problems I’m all ears.

 

[buddhistking]

The Civil War was the 1860s.

I have no problem with the fact black slaves were freed.

My gripe is from the 1960s. You see, after the Civil War, we enacted Jim Crow to ensure blacks would be kept in line. Jim Crow got repealed in 1964.

When I say I'd like to revoke black rights, I mean a return to Jim Crow; not a return to slavery.

Most African Americans back then were fine with Jim Crow, if only whites had actually made it separate but equal, and not made the black part of town 10x worse than the white part, they would have not fought so hard for de-segregation (similar to Apartheid and Rhodesia)

 

[Aladin]

Yeah, everyone gets a public defender—but not all defenders have the time, resources, or support to actually defend people properly. It’s not about having one it’s about making them effective.

Well then disqualify public defenders who suck.

As for cash bail: holding someone in jail for weeks or months just because they’re poor, even if they haven’t been convicted, is what’s actually stupid. Wealth shouldn’t decide who walks free before trial.

wait, so everyone walks free without paying in cases of non-violent offenses? I thought the suggestion was take the option of walking out away from rich people.

 

[̃Star]

Well then disqualify public defenders who suck.

wait, so everyone walks free without paying in cases of non-violent offenses? I thought the suggestion was take the option of walking out away from rich people.

Disqualifying “bad” public defenders doesn’t solve the root problem they’re often overwhelmed with too many cases and not enough resources.

You can’t expect quality without support. It’s not about firing individuals, it’s about fixing the structure they work under.

And no, eliminating cash bail for non-violent offenses doesn’t mean everyone walks free no matter what. It means judges use risk not wealth to decide pretrial release. If someone’s a flight risk or a threat, they can still be held. But holding someone just because they’re poor isn’t justice—it’s punishment before a verdict.

 

[BadLuck7892]

If it were just indoctrination, the resentment wouldn’t line up so clearly with real historical abuse. You can’t dismiss generational trauma and systemic inequality as brainwashing without ignoring the facts that caused the backlash in the first place. People don’t just imagine injustice—they react to it. If you’re going to reply to me be logical ffs.

Blacks have hated us ever since being given rights (or at least have felt emboldened enough to act on their hatred of us ever since being given rights) in the 60s.

But from the 60s up until Obama's 2nd term, you had to be in an area with blacks galore in order to be subjected to the racism of blacks.

Once the severe indoctrination began in Obama's 2nd term, a change came where blacks ended up feeling emboldened to openly hate us even in areas with relatively few blacks.

 

[jaaba]

Obviously blacks want rights.

From a White standpoint, however, what incentive do we have to give blacks rights?

Blacks will always hate us no matter what. Shouldn't we have continued withholding rights from blacks (thus rendering blacks powerless to act on any anti-White beliefs)?

Nobody has rights, nobody is free we are all slaves

 

[Duke Archer]

Nah it's extremely rare that blacks hate whites openly

If anything they automatically code switch

Hating whites in public is the most non nt thing you could possibly do

Because being nt means hanging around white people

At least in usa and uk

 

[lazza]

Obviously blacks want rights.

From a White standpoint, however, what incentive do we have to give blacks rights?

Blacks will always hate us no matter what. Shouldn't we have continued withholding rights from blacks (thus rendering blacks powerless to act on any anti-White beliefs)?

You did not give rights to blacks, your ancestors did

You played no role in this decision, it all happened before you were born and you had no chance to do a thing

It's frustrating to think that a decision that Influences your life so much was taken without your consideration

Really frustrating to understand how some things are just out of your control

 

[BadLuck7892]

I agree that holding hatred toward people who are long dead doesn’t accomplish much. But most Black people today aren’t looking for revenge — they’re responding to systems and attitudes that didn’t die with the people who created them. If any amount of pushback makes you hate an entire group, that says more about your own bias than about their actions.

Blacks have been elevated above us in many ways.

The only areas where they really still lag behind are household incomes and police profiling.

Neither of which can be proven to be racism by the way. Perhaps black household incomes are lower because black kids are pressured into doing poorly in school (because their black peers view doing well in school as "acting White")...and because the black community glorifies gangsters, rappers, drug dealers, etc.

How about glorifying Ben Carson, Sheriff Clarke, etc?

As for police profiling, that's not racist either. With how massive the racial crime rate gap is (even Latinos commit crimes at a much lower rate than blacks), it makes sense for cops to profile blacks.

If blacks don't like getting profiled, they should hate the thugs of their race; not hate cops/Whites.

I don't hate all blacks. I just have come to the conclusion Jim Crowing all blacks is a viable solution (That's how Jim Crow worked. You unfortunately couldn't pick and choose to exempt good blacks from Jim Crow)

Calling the behavior that made me go racist "pushback" is an understatement. I've been disrespected by blacks and even put in positions where I could have died at the hands of blacks.

 

[lazza]

Nobody has rights, nobody is free we are all slaves

If we are all slaves there must be a master, somebody who is actually doing the enslavement

Wonder who that could be

 

[jaaba]

If we are all slaves there must be a master, somebody who is actually doing the enslavement

Wonder who that could be

Idk but he probably has a very big nose and a very small hat

 

[BadLuck7892]

True, most Whites didn’t own slaves but they still lived in and benefited from a system built on it. And yes, some Whites did fight to end slavery, but that doesn’t erase the generations of damage that followed: segregation, redlining, mass incarceration.

A few people doing the right thing doesn’t cancel out a system doing the wrong thing. Most Black kids aren’t being taught to hate they’re being taught history, some people just get uncomfortable when that history isn’t flattering.

Burying history is a solution of how to move forward.

 

[lazza]

Blacks have been elevated above us in many ways.

The only areas where they really still lag behind are household incomes and police profiling.

Neither of which can be proven to be racism by the way. Perhaps black household incomes are lower because black kids are pressured into doing poorly in school (because their black peers view doing well in school as "acting White")...and because the black community glorifies gangsters, rappers, drug dealers, etc.

How about glorifying Ben Carson, Sheriff Clarke, etc?

As for police profiling, that's not racist either. With how massive the racial crime rate gap is (even Latinos commit crimes at a much lower rate than blacks), it makes sense for cops to profile blacks.

If blacks don't like getting profiled, they should hate the thugs of their race; not hate cops/Whites.

I don't hate all blacks. I just have come to the conclusion Jim Crowing all blacks is a viable solution (That's how Jim Crow worked. You unfortunately couldn't pick and choose to exempt good blacks from Jim Crow)

Calling the behavior that made me go racist "pushback" is an understatement. I've been disrespected by blacks and even put in positions where I could have died at the hands of blacks.

I have a question for you, what do you think would have happened if I stead of worshiping black people Americans focused on basic eugenics?

 

[lazza]

Idk but he probably has a very big nose and a very small hat

So antiseptic

 

[BadLuck7892]

Mass incarceration doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Crime rates don’t explain why Black people get harsher sentences for the same offenses or why entire communities were targeted by policies like the “War on Drugs”.

That’s systemic.

As for segregation being “freedom of association”—forced segregation wasn’t people freely choosing who to associate with.

It was codified in law to keep people apart based on race, with one side holding all the power.

There’s a difference between choosing your friends and having the law tell someone they can’t live in your neighborhood or attend your school.

Calling that freedom is just rewriting history to make oppression sound like personal preference jfl.


It’s exactly that kind of attitude that guarantees nothing changes. If people actually wanted progress, they’d be willing to fight for it or at least advocate for something better. But most are too closed off to even try coexisting—they'd rather stay stuck than question their own views.

Even if aliens invaded us I’m sure humans would still hate each other over superficial things.

Forced segregation existed to protect our people.

The way our people have been treated ever since forced segregation went away validates why we forcibly segregated blacks (and Mexicans) to begin with.

 

[BadLuck7892]

Sure, no one’s entitled to the best lawyers but equal justice under the law is supposed to be a basic right.

If legal outcomes depend more on money than facts, then the system isn't delivering justice—it's just favoring the privileged. Saying “that’s life” doesn’t make it fair. It just accepts the problem instead of fixing it.

Even if Whites are "privileged" in the sense that we (on average) have access to better lawyers, blacks are privileged in the sense that they're  far less likely to get assaulted by us than we are to get assaulted by their people.

Existing without getting aggravated assaulted for the color of your skin is a basic human right. A right Whites are lacking.

And maybe...drumroll...the higher black incarceration rate has to do with the fact they commit aggravated assault at a much higher rate?

 

[BadLuck7892]

Start with equal funding for public defenders, end mandatory minimums, eliminate cash bail for non-violent offenses, and hold prosecutors accountable for misconduct.

That’s a baseline. It won’t fix everything overnight, but it moves the system closer to fairness instead of just accepting inequality as normal.

When Whites can safely exist in predominantly black areas, only then might I begin to care about black plight.

 

[BadLuck7892]

Most African Americans back then were fine with Jim Crow, if only whites had actually made it separate but equal, and not made the black part of town 10x worse than the white part, they would have not fought so hard for de-segregation (similar to Apartheid and Rhodesia)

I'd be on board with separate but truly equal (in the sense that blacks would attend equally good schools, live in equally good housing, etc)...under one condition: Blacks would still pay dearly (just like they did under Jim Crow) for messing with our people.

 

[BadLuck7892]

I have a question for you, what do you think would have happened if I stead of worshiping black people Americans focused on basic eugenics?

We'd be a much better nation.

 

[buddhistking]

I'd be on board with separate but truly equal (in the sense that blacks would attend equally good schools, live in equally good housing, etc)...under one condition: Blacks would still pay dearly (just like they did under Jim Crow) for messing with our people.

No no no, that's harbouring hatred and revenge and it just encourages them to take more revenge in retaliation, that's the kind of anger that started Jim Crow in the first place

 

[̃Star]

Blacks have hated us ever since being given rights (or at least have felt emboldened enough to act on their hatred of us ever since being given rights) in the 60s.

But from the 60s up until Obama's 2nd term, you had to be in an area with blacks galore in order to be subjected to the racism of blacks.

Once the severe indoctrination began in Obama's 2nd term, a change came where blacks ended up feeling emboldened to openly hate us even in areas with relatively few blacks.

So let me get this straight:
Black people being openly critical of racism = “hatred,”
and that criticism spreading beyond heavily Black areas = “indoctrination.”

That’s not logic—that’s just discomfort with people having a voice.
No group suddenly “got brainwashed” into resentment during Obama’s term—they just got more visibility and platforms to speak up. What you call emboldenment is people no longer staying silent to make you comfortable.

 

[̃Star]

Blacks have been elevated above us in many ways.

The only areas where they really still lag behind are household incomes and police profiling.

Neither of which can be proven to be racism by the way. Perhaps black household incomes are lower because black kids are pressured into doing poorly in school (because their black peers view doing well in school as "acting White")...and because the black community glorifies gangsters, rappers, drug dealers, etc.

How about glorifying Ben Carson, Sheriff Clarke, etc?

As for police profiling, that's not racist either. With how massive the racial crime rate gap is (even Latinos commit crimes at a much lower rate than blacks), it makes sense for cops to profile blacks.

If blacks don't like getting profiled, they should hate the thugs of their race; not hate cops/Whites.

I don't hate all blacks. I just have come to the conclusion Jim Crowing all blacks is a viable solution (That's how Jim Crow worked. You unfortunately couldn't pick and choose to exempt good blacks from Jim Crow)

Calling the behavior that made me go racist "pushback" is an understatement. I've been disrespected by blacks and even put in positions where I could have died at the hands of blacks.

You’re blaming an entire race for your personal experiences and using stereotypes to justify it. That’s not logic—that’s projection.

Black people haven’t been “elevated above” anyone. The U.S. still shows clear gaps in wealth, healthcare, education, and incarceration rates—and pretending that culture is the only explanation ignores the role of systemic barriers that shaped those outcomes in the first place.

Also, saying racial profiling is justified because of crime stats is like saying everyone in a group is guilty by default. That’s not policing—that’s prejudice. It ignores context, environment, poverty, and policy. If you think Jim Crow is a “viable solution,” you’re not talking about public safety—you’re talking about control.

Getting disrespected or harmed by individuals doesn’t justify hating an entire group or supporting oppression. That’s just scapegoating dressed up as victimhood.

 

[̃Star]

Forced segregation existed to protect our people.

The way our people have been treated ever since forced segregation went away validates why we forcibly segregated blacks (and Mexicans) to begin with.

Segregation wasn’t “protection”—it was control. It kept one group in power and another restricted by law. The idea that mistreatment after desegregation justifies segregation is circular and self-serving: “We oppressed them because we feared them, and now we fear them because we oppressed them.”

If your only way to feel safe is by forcing an entire race into second-class status, that’s not survival—that’s cowardice disguised as strategy.

 

[̃Star]

Even if Whites are "privileged" in the sense that we (on average) have access to better lawyers, blacks are privileged in the sense that they're  far less likely to get assaulted by us than we are to get assaulted by their people.

Existing without getting aggravated assaulted for the color of your skin is a basic human right. A right Whites are lacking.

And maybe...drumroll...the higher black incarceration rate has to do with the fact they commit aggravated assault at a much higher rate?

You’re comparing access to quality legal defense—something tied to money and fairness in the justice system—to anecdotal claims about street violence. Those aren’t equivalent.

If someone commits a crime, they should be held accountable—no one’s arguing otherwise. But when sentencing outcomes differ for the same crime, or entire communities are overpoliced and underserved, that’s not about crime rates—that’s about systemic bias.

Also, blaming all Black people for the actions of some and calling that “privilege” just shows how skewed your perspective is. You're not talking about justice—you’re talking about fear dressed up as data.

 

[̃Star]

When Whites can safely exist in predominantly black areas, only then might I begin to care about black plight.

So your standard for caring about justice is whether you personally feel comfortable in certain neighborhoods? That’s not a principle—that’s conditional empathy based on fear and stereotypes.

You don’t get to demand safety while dismissing an entire group’s experience with systemic injustice. If everyone waited to care until they felt perfectly safe, nothing would ever change—especially for the people who’ve never had safety guaranteed in the first place.

Try to be logical buddy boyo

 

[BadLuck7892]

No no no, that's harbouring hatred and revenge and it just encourages them to take more revenge in retaliation, that's the kind of anger that started Jim Crow in the first place

So the solution is to allow blacks to terrorize our people?

 

[BadLuck7892]

So let me get this straight:
Black people being openly critical of racism = “hatred,”
and that criticism spreading beyond heavily Black areas = “indoctrination.”

That’s not logic—that’s just discomfort with people having a voice.
No group suddenly “got brainwashed” into resentment during Obama’s term—they just got more visibility and platforms to speak up. What you call emboldenment is people no longer staying silent to make you comfortable.

The fact you think black grievances are nothing more than "being critical of racism" shows how out of touch you are.

Niggers call our people by racial slurs (and brutalize our people) en masse

Blacks have moved way beyond racism. They've become the racists.

During Obama'a 2nd term, schools began teaching children that Whites are perpetual oppressors, blacks are perpetual victims, and it's impossible to be racist against Whites.

What do you think impressionable black children will end up thinking when they hear that shit from teachers? Obviously black children will think "So let me get this straight. Whites are responsible for every struggle of mine? And no matter what I do to retaliate, it's impossible for me to be racist?"

Ironically, teaching blacks it's impossible for blacks to be racist leads to an influx of black racists.

 

[slaters]

Obviously blacks want rights.

From a White standpoint, however, what incentive do we have to give blacks rights?

Blacks will always hate us no matter what. Shouldn't we have continued withholding rights from blacks (thus rendering blacks powerless to act on any anti-White beliefs)?

Well it’s too late to take it back so

 

[̃Star]

The fact you think black grievances are nothing more than "being critical of racism" shows how out of touch you are.

Niggers call our people by racial slurs (and brutalize our people) en masse

Blacks have moved way beyond racism. They've become the racists.

During Obama'a 2nd term, schools began teaching children that Whites are perpetual oppressors, blacks are perpetual victims, and it's impossible to be racist against Whites.

What do you think impressionable black children will end up thinking when they hear that shit from teachers? Obviously black children will think "So let me get this straight. Whites are responsible for every struggle of mine? And no matter what I do to retaliate, it's impossible for me to be racist?"

Ironically, teaching blacks it's impossible for blacks to be racist leads to an influx of black racists.

What you're describing isn't reality—it's a narrative built on fear and generalizations. Yes, racism can exist in any group. No one is denying that. But framing all Black people as violent racists because of the actions of some, while excusing centuries of systemic oppression, is exactly the double standard you're complaining about.

Saying schools "teach kids to hate Whites" is a stretch. Teaching history—real, uncomfortable history—isn’t an attack. It’s context. And context isn’t victimhood unless you’re desperate to feel targeted.

Also, the fact you’re throwing around slurs while claiming to care about racism says everything. You’re not looking for fairness—you’re looking for justification.

 

[BadLuck7892]

You’re blaming an entire race for your personal experiences and using stereotypes to justify it. That’s not logic—that’s projection.

Black people haven’t been “elevated above” anyone. The U.S. still shows clear gaps in wealth, healthcare, education, and incarceration rates—and pretending that culture is the only explanation ignores the role of systemic barriers that shaped those outcomes in the first place.

Also, saying racial profiling is justified because of crime stats is like saying everyone in a group is guilty by default. That’s not policing—that’s prejudice. It ignores context, environment, poverty, and policy. If you think Jim Crow is a “viable solution,” you’re not talking about public safety—you’re talking about control.

Getting disrespected or harmed by individuals doesn’t justify hating an entire group or supporting oppression. That’s just scapegoating dressed up as victimhood.

Is there a better proven way to protect our people from blacks besides Jim Crow or slavery?

By the way, if profiling is wrong because it treats all members of an ethnic group as guilty, that means all the privilege smears hurled at Whites are wrong (because all Whites are getting profiled as privileged)

Blacks are portrayed as sex symbols by the media, get worldwide riots if the absolute biggest pieces of shit from their race die in self-defense (or overdose on fentanyl in police custody), are given a free pass to be as racist as they want, yet have the power to destroy Whites over perceived (and often nonexistent) racism. These are examples of blacks getting elevated above us.

 

[̃Star]

Is there a better proven way to protect our people from blacks besides Jim Crow or slavery?

By the way, if profiling is wrong because it treats all members of an ethnic group as guilty, that means all the privilege smears hurled at Whites are wrong (because all Whites are getting profiled as privileged)

Blacks are portrayed as sex symbols by the media, get worldwide riots if the absolute biggest pieces of shit from their race die in self-defense (or overdose on fentanyl in police custody), are given a free pass to be as racist as they want, yet have the power to destroy Whites over perceived (and often nonexistent) racism. These are examples of blacks getting elevated above us.

If you're seriously arguing that slavery or Jim Crow are "proven solutions," then you're not talking about protection—you're talking about domination. That’s not self-defense. It’s just whitewashed authoritarianism.

Also, profiling isn’t just thinking something about someone—it’s acting on it with real-world consequences, like arrests, sentencing, and violence. No one’s getting locked up, denied housing, or shot in the street for being called “privileged.”

The idea that Black people are “elevated” because some get media attention or cultural influence ignores the reality of economic inequality, mass incarceration, healthcare disparities, and systemic bias. Highlighting a few visible moments and pretending they define an entire group’s status is just selective outrage.

And if you're calling literal victims “pieces of shit” while defending systems that killed them, it’s clear you’re not here for truth or fairness. You’re here to justify hate.

 

[BadLuck7892]

Segregation wasn’t “protection”—it was control. It kept one group in power and another restricted by law. The idea that mistreatment after desegregation justifies segregation is circular and self-serving: “We oppressed them because we feared them, and now we fear them because we oppressed them.”

If your only way to feel safe is by forcing an entire race into second-class status, that’s not survival—that’s cowardice disguised as strategy.

Regardless of your personal opinion of whether segregation is wrong, it's a fact we were safer when blacks and Mexicans were segregated.

So purely from a White safety standpoint, doesn't segregation make the most sense?

It's not about "feeling" safe by the way. It's about really being safe. Integration is a proven threat to White safety. Integration is like letting the zoo animals out of their cages (won't end well for the humans at the zoo)

Cowardice is the fact blacks only mess with us when they have a weapon, strength advantage, numerical advantage, or any combination of the above.

 

[̃Star]

Regardless of your personal opinion of whether segregation is wrong, it's a fact we were safer when blacks and Mexicans were segregated.

So purely from a White safety standpoint, doesn't segregation make the most sense?

It's not about "feeling" safe by the way. It's about really being safe. Integration is a proven threat to White safety. Integration is like letting the zoo animals out of their cages (won't end well for the humans at the zoo)

Cowardice is the fact blacks only mess with us when they have a weapon, strength advantage, numerical advantage, or any combination of the above.

Calling other human beings “zoo animals” tells me everything I need to know about how seriously to take your argument.

Segregation didn’t make society safer—it just made one group legally untouchable while another was suppressed and silenced. You weren’t “safer,” you were unchallenged. That’s not peace. That’s enforced inequality.

If you think integration is a “threat,” it’s not because of what others are doing. It’s because your worldview collapses the moment you’re held to the same standards as everyone else.

Sincerely, pick up a history book. A REAL history book.

 

[BadLuck7892]

You’re comparing access to quality legal defense—something tied to money and fairness in the justice system—to anecdotal claims about street violence. Those aren’t equivalent.

If someone commits a crime, they should be held accountable—no one’s arguing otherwise. But when sentencing outcomes differ for the same crime, or entire communities are overpoliced and underserved, that’s not about crime rates—that’s about systemic bias.

Also, blaming all Black people for the actions of some and calling that “privilege” just shows how skewed your perspective is. You're not talking about justice—you’re talking about fear dressed up as data.

Anecdotal? It pisses me off to no end when liberals call the treatment Whites face at the hands of niggers "anecdotal"

There are documented crime statistics proving niggers treating our people poorly is far from anecdotal.

 

[̃Star]

Anecdotal? It pisses me off to no end when liberals call the treatment Whites face at the hands of niggers "anecdotal"

There are documented crime statistics proving niggers treating our people poorly is far from anecdotal.

If you can’t make a point without slurs, you’re not arguing—you’re venting hate.

Crime stats don’t justify collective blame. You don’t get to use numbers to dehumanize an entire race while ignoring context like poverty, environment, or policy. That’s not objectivity—that’s weaponized cherry-picking.

If a stat makes you hate millions of people you’ve never met, the problem isn’t the data. It’s you.

 

[80llo]

Obviously blacks want rights.

From a White standpoint, however, what incentive do we have to give blacks rights?

Blacks will always hate us no matter what. Shouldn't we have continued withholding rights from blacks (thus rendering blacks powerless to act on any anti-White beliefs)?

moralism you cant argue enslaving is way better for the slavemaster,you could say the thing about animals there is a reason they are slaves.Not trying to say anything racist this is just based on logic the slave always loses and the master always wins

 

[BadLuck7892]

So your standard for caring about justice is whether you personally feel comfortable in certain neighborhoods? That’s not a principle—that’s conditional empathy based on fear and stereotypes.

You don’t get to demand safety while dismissing an entire group’s experience with systemic injustice. If everyone waited to care until they felt perfectly safe, nothing would ever change—especially for the people who’ve never had safety guaranteed in the first place.

Try to be logical buddy boyo

There are many Whites (myself included) who never had anything against blacks until moving to a place where we finally began coming into contact with a lot of blacks.

Before moving to the big city, I never believed the black stereotypes.

My KKK-level racism I've developed is the result of learning firsthand how true the black stereotypes are.

Blacks face 2 primary safety threats: Brutality/killings at the hands of fellow everyday blacks. Self-defense deaths at the hands of cops (cops from any race)

If a black man enters a White neighborhood, there's pretty much zero chance he'll face brutality from everyday Whites. The absolute worst that might happen is getting the cops called on him.

White supremacists would be ecstatic if the worst that happened to our people in nigger neighborhoods was the cops maybe getting called on us.

I support full equality of East Asians by the way. Because East Asians have proven they can handle full equality. So it's not that I'd like to subjugate every minority group.

 

[BadLuck7892]

Well it’s too late to take it back so

Which is precisely why Jim Crow never should have ended.

 

[Lord_butler]

Obviously blacks want rights.

From a White standpoint, however, what incentive do we have to give blacks rights?

Blacks will always hate us no matter what. Shouldn't we have continued withholding rights from blacks (thus rendering blacks powerless to act on any anti-White beliefs)?

we should've never banned slavery black people are too entitled

 

[̃Star]

There are many Whites (myself included) who never had anything against blacks until moving to a place where we finally began coming into contact with a lot of blacks.

Before moving to the big city, I never believed the black stereotypes.

My KKK-level racism I've developed is the result of learning firsthand how true the black stereotypes are.

Blacks face 2 primary safety threats: Brutality/killings at the hands of fellow everyday blacks. Self-defense deaths at the hands of cops (cops from any race)

If a black man enters a White neighborhood, there's pretty much zero chance he'll face brutality from everyday Whites. The absolute worst that might happen is getting the cops called on him.

White supremacists would be ecstatic if the worst that happened to our people in nigger neighborhoods was the cops maybe getting called on us.

I support full equality of East Asians by the way. Because East Asians have proven they can handle full equality. So it's not that I'd like to subjugate every minority group.

What you’re describing isn’t firsthand experience—it’s confirmation bias. You moved somewhere, saw what you expected to see, ignored everything that didn’t fit, and decided millions of people deserve collective punishment based on your personal narrative.

You say you support equality for East Asians because they “handle it,” as if basic rights are something to be earned by meeting your expectations. That’s not support for equality—that’s conditional tolerance. And that’s the foundation of every oppressive system.

Stereotypes don’t become truth just because you think they line up with your experience. That’s how bias works. The fact that you openly admit to holding KKK-level racism should disqualify your opinion from any serious conversation about justice or safety.

 

[BadLuck7892]

What you're describing isn't reality—it's a narrative built on fear and generalizations. Yes, racism can exist in any group. No one is denying that. But framing all Black people as violent racists because of the actions of some, while excusing centuries of systemic oppression, is exactly the double standard you're complaining about.

Saying schools "teach kids to hate Whites" is a stretch. Teaching history—real, uncomfortable history—isn’t an attack. It’s context. And context isn’t victimhood unless you’re desperate to feel targeted.

Also, the fact you’re throwing around slurs while claiming to care about racism says everything. You’re not looking for fairness—you’re looking for justification.

I'm 34 (which makes me ancient on this forum). When I was in school, we learned slavery, we learned segregation, etc.

Yet some time after I was already out of school was when schools began going the extra mile (and calling Whites perpetual oppressors, telling blacks it's impossible for blacks to be racist, etc)

I could spin your argument around on you by the way. Blacks claiming to care about racism, yet then turning around and calling our people by racial slurs, are hypocrites.

 

[̃Star]

I'm 34 (which makes me ancient on this forum). When I was in school, we learned slavery, we learned segregation, etc.

Yet some time after I was already out of school was when schools began going the extra mile (and calling Whites perpetual oppressors, telling blacks it's impossible for blacks to be racist, etc)

I could spin your argument around on you by the way. Blacks claiming to care about racism, yet then turning around and calling our people by racial slurs, are hypocrites.

Learning hard history isn’t the same as being told you’re a villain. Schools addressing systemic racism isn’t “anti-White”—it’s just facing reality more honestly than before.

And sure, anyone using slurs while claiming to fight racism is being hypocritical—but that goes both ways. You can’t call out hypocrisy while supporting segregation, dropping slurs, and defending Jim Crow. If you want the moral high ground, act like it.

 

[BadLuck7892]

If you're seriously arguing that slavery or Jim Crow are "proven solutions," then you're not talking about protection—you're talking about domination. That’s not self-defense. It’s just whitewashed authoritarianism.

Also, profiling isn’t just thinking something about someone—it’s acting on it with real-world consequences, like arrests, sentencing, and violence. No one’s getting locked up, denied housing, or shot in the street for being called “privileged.”

The idea that Black people are “elevated” because some get media attention or cultural influence ignores the reality of economic inequality, mass incarceration, healthcare disparities, and systemic bias. Highlighting a few visible moments and pretending they define an entire group’s status is just selective outrage.

And if you're calling literal victims “pieces of shit” while defending systems that killed them, it’s clear you’re not here for truth or fairness. You’re here to justify hate.

Plenty of Whites have been assaulted for the false privilege smears that get hurled at our people. And yeah, some Whites have even been shot in the street as a result of the false privilege smears.

As for me calling so-called "victims" (black thugs dying in police custody) pieces of shit, one thing is certain: They did way more to deserve their death than any of the Whites who've been brutalized or murdered for being White. What pisses us off is the fact blacks get protests for getting killed in self-defense, yet we get no protests (and barely even any media attention) when our people are victimized solely for being White.

 

[̃Star]

Plenty of Whites have been assaulted for the false privilege smears that get hurled at our people. And yeah, some Whites have even been shot in the street as a result of the false privilege smears.

As for me calling so-called "victims" (black thugs dying in police custody) pieces of shit, one thing is certain: They did way more to deserve their death than any of the Whites who've been brutalized or murdered for being White. What pisses us off is the fact blacks get protests for getting killed in self-defense, yet we get no protests (and barely even any media attention) when our people are victimized solely for being White.

If your whole argument is “our victims deserve sympathy, theirs don’t,” then you’re not asking for justice—you’re asking for favoritism. You don’t get to dismiss someone’s death as deserved just because they had a criminal record or were in a bad situation. That’s not how justice works.

And if you're genuinely upset about lack of attention when White people are targeted, maybe push for all victims to get justice—instead of tearing down one group for getting visibility. Selective outrage isn’t principle—it’s bias.

 

[BadLuck7892]

Calling other human beings “zoo animals” tells me everything I need to know about how seriously to take your argument.

Segregation didn’t make society safer—it just made one group legally untouchable while another was suppressed and silenced. You weren’t “safer,” you were unchallenged. That’s not peace. That’s enforced inequality.

If you think integration is a “threat,” it’s not because of what others are doing. It’s because your worldview collapses the moment you’re held to the same standards as everyone else.

Sincerely, pick up a history book. A REAL history book.

I never called human beings zoo animals. Blacks and mestizos aren't human.

Your claim we were merely unchallenged (as opposed to safer) is semantics. We were safer as a result of being unchallenged.

I've already told you I have no problem with East Asians having full equality. So it is possible for me to be ok with a minority group being held to the same standards as us...if said minority group has proven itself worthy.

 

[TheAncientMacedonia]

f niggers and fk the west

 

[̃Star]

I never called human beings zoo animals. Blacks and mestizos aren't human.

Your claim we were merely unchallenged (as opposed to safer) is semantics. We were safer as a result of being unchallenged.

I've already told you I have no problem with East Asians having full equality. So it is possible for me to be ok with a minority group being held to the same standards as us...if said minority group has proven itself worthy.

Thanks for clearing it up—you’re not arguing for safety, fairness, or justice. You’re just openly admitting you don’t see entire groups as human and only accept equality when people "prove" they deserve basic rights.

That’s not a debate. That’s textbook dehumanization.

You’ve left reason behind. Nothing more to say.

 

[ilyrzk]

There are many Whites (myself included) who never had anything against blacks until moving to a place where we finally began coming into contact with a lot of blacks.

Before moving to the big city, I never believed the black stereotypes.

My KKK-level racism I've developed is the result of learning firsthand how true the black stereotypes are.

Blacks face 2 primary safety threats: Brutality/killings at the hands of fellow everyday blacks. Self-defense deaths at the hands of cops (cops from any race)

If a black man enters a White neighborhood, there's pretty much zero chance he'll face brutality from everyday Whites. The absolute worst that might happen is getting the cops called on him.

White supremacists would be ecstatic if the worst that happened to our people in nigger neighborhoods was the cops maybe getting called on us.

I support full equality of East Asians by the way. Because East Asians have proven they can handle full equality. So it's not that I'd like to subjugate every minority group.

ah yes in the streets of cupertino california

 

[Hernan]

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