why the fuck do primalfags think raw milk is better than pasteurized milk

Cooking destroys nutrients from meat and dairy as the nutrients are literally burned away
brahh what nutrients are yall talking about
 
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brahh what nutrients are yall talking about
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yes and you wont dispute any of it iqlet
#1. bad ragebait.

#2. wont waste my time on an unintelligent person that cant have a logical argument

have a good day, study the properties of periodic elements.
 
prove any of these "periodic elements" i will be waiting for your response to debate you further
 
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"crucial enzymes and diminishes raw nutrients essential for human growth" name them
Water (-83-87% of total volume

Milk fat / triglycerides (4.82-7.02%; highest among common dairy breeds)

Total protein (3.26-6.43

% early lactation; 4.32% average in one study)

Casein fraction (3.30% average; includes ast, as2-, B- (frequently A2 variant in Jerseys), Ko casein)

Whey protein fraction

(0.77% average)

Lactose (3.85-4.72%)

Total solids (13.66-16.88%)

Non-fat solids (9.86%)

Citrate (2.84-3.17 mmol/L)

Milk urea nitrogen (MUN

5.01-7.60 mg/dL)

Free fatty acids (FFA, 1.04-8.97 mmol/100 g fat)



MINERALS (Macro & Trace, with Forms Where Specified)



Calcium (total 1,168-1,612 mg/kg or 164 mg/ 100 mL; colloidal 112 mg/ 100mL, soluble 52 mg/ 100 mL, lonic 8.2mg/100 mL)

Phosphorus (1,023-1,450 mg/kg)

Potassium (947-1,013 mg/kg)

Magnesium (115-184 mg/kg)

Sodium

Sulfur

Chloride

Zing (3.73-8.59 mg/kg)

Iron (1.45-2.01 mg/kg)

Copper (trace)

Manganese (trace)

Selenium (trace, higher in pasture-fed) lodine (trace)

Boron (trace micro-mineral)

Additional ultra-trace: chromium, molybdenum, nickel, cobalt, etc. (all 22 essential minerals documented in raw milk.



VITAMINS (Native, Bioavailable Forms)



Vitamin A (retinol + B-carotene; fat-soluble,(elevated in grass-fed Jersey)

Vitamin D3

(cholecalciferol)

Vitamin E (tocopherols, Vitamin K (phylloquinone +/MK-7 forms)

Vitamin C (ascorbic acid; heat-sensitive, preserved in raw)

All B-complex: B1

(thiamine), B2

(riboflavin, often higher in Jersey, B3 (niacin), B5 (pantothenic acid, B6(pyridoxine), B7 (biotin), B9 (folate), B12 (cobalamin)



PROTEINS, BIOACTIVE PEPTIDES AND GLYCOPROTEINS:



as1-Casein, as2-Casein, B-Casein (A2 genetic variant predominant in many Jersey herds), K- Casein +

glycomacropeptide

(GMP)

B-Lactoglobulin (major whey protein, genetic variants)

Lactalbumin

Serum albumin

Lactoferrin (and derived lactoferricin peptides, lactoferroxins)

Osteopontin (bOPN / bovine milk osteopontin Milk basic protein (MBP, cystatin- and kininogen-derived fragments)

Immunoglobulins (gG, gA, gM, passive immunity factors)

Lactoperoxidase

Lysozyme

Growth factors: IGF-1, TGF-a, TGF-B (including TGF-beta cytokine),

EGF, prolactin, PTHiP (parathyroid hormone-related protein

Cytokines: interleukins

(6,1L-10-ا,2لاL-1ا)

TNF-a, IFN-y

Encrypted bioactive peptides released on digestion: casein phosphopeptides (CPP

precursors from ast-, as2-oB-casein),

casomorphins, casokinins, lactorphins, serorphin, etc.



ENZYMES (All Active in Raw Form)



Lipase (including lipoprotein lipase)

Proteases (plasmin system)

Alkaline phosphatase

Acid phosphatase

Lactoperoxidase (antimicrobial)

Catalase

Superoxide dismutase

Xanthine oxidoreductase/ xanthine oxidase (MFGM-associated)

Additional minor enzymes for carbohydrate, lipid, and protein metabolism

Lipids, MFGM

Components & Fatty Acids
 
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mention concentrations in raw milk and pastuerized milk both. otherwise this isnt a complete argument. this just looks like a list of all constituents of raw milk. not what has dentaured
Water (-83-87% of total volume

Milk fat / triglycerides (4.82-7.02%; highest among common dairy breeds)

Total protein (3.26-6.43

% early lactation; 4.32% average in one study)

Casein fraction (3.30% average; includes ast, as2-, B- (frequently A2 variant in Jerseys), Ko casein)

Whey protein fraction

(0.77% average)

Lactose (3.85-4.72%)

Total solids (13.66-16.88%)

Non-fat solids (9.86%)

Citrate (2.84-3.17 mmol/L)

Milk urea nitrogen (MUN

5.01-7.60 mg/dL)

Free fatty acids (FFA, 1.04-8.97 mmol/100 g fat)



MINERALS (Macro & Trace, with Forms Where Specified)



Calcium (total 1,168-1,612 mg/kg or 164 mg/ 100 mL; colloidal 112 mg/ 100mL, soluble 52 mg/ 100 mL, lonic 8.2mg/100 mL)

Phosphorus (1,023-1,450 mg/kg)

Potassium (947-1,013 mg/kg)

Magnesium (115-184 mg/kg)

Sodium

Sulfur

Chloride

Zing (3.73-8.59 mg/kg)

Iron (1.45-2.01 mg/kg)

Copper (trace)

Manganese (trace)

Selenium (trace, higher in pasture-fed) lodine (trace)

Boron (trace micro-mineral)

Additional ultra-trace: chromium, molybdenum, nickel, cobalt, etc. (all 22 essential minerals documented in raw milk.



VITAMINS (Native, Bioavailable Forms)



Vitamin A (retinol + B-carotene; fat-soluble,(elevated in grass-fed Jersey)

Vitamin D3

(cholecalciferol)

Vitamin E (tocopherols, Vitamin K (phylloquinone +/MK-7 forms)

Vitamin C (ascorbic acid; heat-sensitive, preserved in raw)

All B-complex: B1

(thiamine), B2

(riboflavin, often higher in Jersey, B3 (niacin), B5 (pantothenic acid, B6(pyridoxine), B7 (biotin), B9 (folate), B12 (cobalamin)



PROTEINS, BIOACTIVE PEPTIDES AND GLYCOPROTEINS:



as1-Casein, as2-Casein, B-Casein (A2 genetic variant predominant in many Jersey herds), K- Casein +

glycomacropeptide

(GMP)

B-Lactoglobulin (major whey protein, genetic variants)

Lactalbumin

Serum albumin

Lactoferrin (and derived lactoferricin peptides, lactoferroxins)

Osteopontin (bOPN / bovine milk osteopontin Milk basic protein (MBP, cystatin- and kininogen-derived fragments)

Immunoglobulins (gG, gA, gM, passive immunity factors)

Lactoperoxidase

Lysozyme

Growth factors: IGF-1, TGF-a, TGF-B (including TGF-beta cytokine),

EGF, prolactin, PTHiP (parathyroid hormone-related protein

Cytokines: interleukins

(6,1L-10-ا,2لاL-1ا)

TNF-a, IFN-y

Encrypted bioactive peptides released on digestion: casein phosphopeptides (CPP

precursors from ast-, as2-oB-casein),

casomorphins, casokinins, lactorphins, serorphin, etc.



ENZYMES (All Active in Raw Form)



Lipase (including lipoprotein lipase)

Proteases (plasmin system)

Alkaline phosphatase

Acid phosphatase

Lactoperoxidase (antimicrobial)

Catalase

Superoxide dismutase

Xanthine oxidoreductase/ xanthine oxidase (MFGM-associated)

Additional minor enzymes for carbohydrate, lipid, and protein metabolism

Lipids, MFGM

Components & Fatty Acids
 
mention concentrations in raw milk and pastuerized milk both. otherwise this isnt a complete argument. this just looks like a list of all constituents of raw milk. not what has dentaured
(i wrote this out myself its just in my notes and i dont want to type it out again
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the column in the right is pasteurised milk and the cropped out word is reduced
 
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(i wrote this out myself its just in my notes and i dont want to type it out againView attachment 5315192

the column in the right is pasteurised milk and the cropped out word is reduced
iron and vit c arent abundant in milk in the first place so there reduction doesnt matter. calcium bioavailibiluty dropping to 21 percent just seems extremly bs to me ngl so if ur able to back it up w some reason id believe u. same w zinc. cuz google says zinc and calcium bioavailbilty is virtually same. same w vit a and b
 
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iron and vit c arent abundant in milk in the first place so there reduction doesnt matter. calcium bioavailibiluty dropping to 21 percent just seems extremly bs to me ngl so if ur able to back it up w some reason id believe u. same w zinc. cuz google says zinc and calcium bioavailbilty is virtually same. same w vit a and b
not tryna hate or anything just tryna get to know what makes u defend raw milk so bad
 
virtually 0 benefit when u think about it. if anybody even dares to say igf1 or gh or helps u grow more taller gtfo of my thread not going to respond to u
 

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iron and vit c arent abundant in milk in the first place so there reduction doesnt matter. calcium bioavailibiluty dropping to 21 percent just seems extremly bs to me ngl so if ur able to back it up w some reason id believe u. same w zinc. cuz google says zinc and calcium bioavailbilty is virtually same. same w vit a and b
dont trust google for these things and the reduction DOES matter because why not get the max nutrition out of something? and the proof is obvious because obviously pasteurisation, homogenisation etc would make it less bioavailable on the premise of it being “safer”
 
dude
this is too vague what enzymes? what proteins what fats what vitamins. babies need iga and igc for better immunity cuz theyre immune system is weak so u dont need them. what probiotics. and no calcium and phospohorous dont become less bioavailble after pasteurzation thats a myth lok it up. and the fatty acids u listed epa, etc theyre not high in concentration in raw milk to begin with so theyre denaturing doesnt matter to begin with assuming they even do denature to a huge extent which they dont
 
dont trust google for these things and the reduction DOES matter because why not get the max nutrition out of something? and the proof is obvious because obviously pasteurisation, homogenisation etc would make it less bioavailable on the premise of it being “safer”
dude money and risk of an infection and going thru the trouble to source it
 
dont trust google for these things and the reduction DOES matter because why not get the max nutrition out of something? and the proof is obvious because obviously pasteurisation, homogenisation etc would make it less bioavailable on the premise of it being “safer”
what source then?
 
all those words and not a single word or reason was stated for why raw milk is better than pasteurized milk. a 10 yo poopjeet w basic comprehension skills could have answerred appropirately by now
Why would I? Are you incapable of independent research? It’s obvious you don’t give a fuck and are just looking for attention/division. Fucking Jewish Nigger.
Look up water soluble vitamins and pasteurization.
 
The pasteurisations of milk completely denatures crucial enzymes and diminishes raw nutrients essential for human growth.
this is a myth

what specifically is denatured
 
Why would I? Are you incapable of independent research? It’s obvious you don’t give a fuck and are just looking for attention/division. Fucking Jewish Nigger.
Look up water soluble vitamins and pasteurization.
bitch ur still here. kill yourself greyfag nigger why do you think your opinon even matters. what kind of cope were u surrounded by growing up to make u think u even deserve to live:lul::lul::lul:
 
IDF most strong soldier
 
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Cooking destroys nutrients from meat and dairy as the nutrients are literally burned away
cooked meat and egg protein are more bioavailable to humans

you realize weve been cooking our food for more than 780,000 years?
 
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did you not read anything i said? do your own research
u said not to trust google for bioavailbity of calcium and phosphorus retard so where the fuck do i look. whats ur fucking source so i can verify if its even fucking reliable
 
Why would I? Are you incapable of independent research? It’s obvious you don’t give a fuck and are just looking for attention/division. Fucking Jewish Nigger.
Look up water soluble vitamins and pasteurization.
you know what “burden of proof” is right?


this literally proves nothing retard

what is present in raw milk not present in regular milk
 
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did you not read anything i said? do your own research
nobodies “doing their own resarch” because the “resarch” you speak of is nonexistent

i have a fucking life

post the fucking source pussy
 
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cooked meat and egg protein are more bioavailable to humans

you realize weve been cooking our food for more than 780,000 years?
No evidance for that last statment, just a religous belief, also how is the protine more bio-avadible to humans when a lion's or wolves don't cook their meat and cows don't cook their grass, cooking is unnatural and satanic, also 780'000 years is not a very long time in termes of human evolution
 
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IDF most strong soldier
is baseless racism the only thing u can resort to when ur argument doesnt have substance? why try to put me down w logical fallacies when u can put me down w proofs and facts? is it because u have none?
 
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Water (-83-87% of total volume

Milk fat / triglycerides (4.82-7.02%; highest among common dairy breeds)

Total protein (3.26-6.43

% early lactation; 4.32% average in one study)

Casein fraction (3.30% average; includes ast, as2-, B- (frequently A2 variant in Jerseys), Ko casein)

Whey protein fraction

(0.77% average)

Lactose (3.85-4.72%)

Total solids (13.66-16.88%)

Non-fat solids (9.86%)

Citrate (2.84-3.17 mmol/L)

Milk urea nitrogen (MUN

5.01-7.60 mg/dL)

Free fatty acids (FFA, 1.04-8.97 mmol/100 g fat)



MINERALS (Macro & Trace, with Forms Where Specified)



Calcium (total 1,168-1,612 mg/kg or 164 mg/ 100 mL; colloidal 112 mg/ 100mL, soluble 52 mg/ 100 mL, lonic 8.2mg/100 mL)

Phosphorus (1,023-1,450 mg/kg)

Potassium (947-1,013 mg/kg)

Magnesium (115-184 mg/kg)

Sodium

Sulfur

Chloride

Zing (3.73-8.59 mg/kg)

Iron (1.45-2.01 mg/kg)

Copper (trace)

Manganese (trace)

Selenium (trace, higher in pasture-fed) lodine (trace)

Boron (trace micro-mineral)

Additional ultra-trace: chromium, molybdenum, nickel, cobalt, etc. (all 22 essential minerals documented in raw milk.



VITAMINS (Native, Bioavailable Forms)



Vitamin A (retinol + B-carotene; fat-soluble,(elevated in grass-fed Jersey)

Vitamin D3

(cholecalciferol)

Vitamin E (tocopherols, Vitamin K (phylloquinone +/MK-7 forms)

Vitamin C (ascorbic acid; heat-sensitive, preserved in raw)

All B-complex: B1

(thiamine), B2

(riboflavin, often higher in Jersey, B3 (niacin), B5 (pantothenic acid, B6(pyridoxine), B7 (biotin), B9 (folate), B12 (cobalamin)



PROTEINS, BIOACTIVE PEPTIDES AND GLYCOPROTEINS:



as1-Casein, as2-Casein, B-Casein (A2 genetic variant predominant in many Jersey herds), K- Casein +

glycomacropeptide

(GMP)

B-Lactoglobulin (major whey protein, genetic variants)

Lactalbumin

Serum albumin

Lactoferrin (and derived lactoferricin peptides, lactoferroxins)

Osteopontin (bOPN / bovine milk osteopontin Milk basic protein (MBP, cystatin- and kininogen-derived fragments)

Immunoglobulins (gG, gA, gM, passive immunity factors)

Lactoperoxidase

Lysozyme

Growth factors: IGF-1, TGF-a, TGF-B (including TGF-beta cytokine),

EGF, prolactin, PTHiP (parathyroid hormone-related protein

Cytokines: interleukins

(6,1L-10-ا,2لاL-1ا)

TNF-a, IFN-y

Encrypted bioactive peptides released on digestion: casein phosphopeptides (CPP

precursors from ast-, as2-oB-casein),

casomorphins, casokinins, lactorphins, serorphin, etc.



ENZYMES (All Active in Raw Form)



Lipase (including lipoprotein lipase)

Proteases (plasmin system)

Alkaline phosphatase

Acid phosphatase

Lactoperoxidase (antimicrobial)

Catalase

Superoxide dismutase

Xanthine oxidoreductase/ xanthine oxidase (MFGM-associated)

Additional minor enzymes for carbohydrate, lipid, and protein metabolism

Lipids, MFGM

Components & Fatty Acids
Most of that is still in pasteurized milk. It mainly loses some enzymes and a little vitamin C
 
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No evidance for that last statment, just a religous belief, also how is the protine more bio-avadible to humans when a lion's or wolves don't cook their meat and cows don't cook their grass, cooking is unnatural and satanic, also 780'000 years is not a very long time in termes of human evolution
:lul::lul::lul: satanic. lmfao all this time i thought there were high iq objective based comprehensive responses based off of research. turns out this whole fuckin threads been a christian bait farm. stupid niggers will do anything as long as a statment has a 0.0001 percent relation to the bible.

if you actually are willing to put religion aside and talk only facts huamns cooking for 780000 years isnt relgion based. human mouths and digestive systems havent coincidentally gotten less large. its because fire does a huge part of the work in digesting for us, our digestive systems have grown less potent. protein is more bioavaible in cooked meats because your body doesnt have to waste time breaking it down as much. fire does most of it. our bodies handle the rest. thers a reason the volume of food a total human eats is a mere fraction of what a lion eats in a day. because humans have outsourced digestion to fire to help save energy resources and time. and skipping fire is only a good roi when you actually get something meaningful out of it which no one has yet been able to specify
 
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No evidance for that last statment, just a religous belief, also how is the protine more bio-avadible to humans when a lion's or wolves don't cook their meat and cows don't cook their grass, cooking is unnatural and satanic, also 780'000 years is not a very long time in termes of human evolution
“No evidance for that last statment, just a religous belief”

what religion do i belong to?

also do you know what fossils are?

“also how is the protine more bio-avadible to humans when a lion's or wolves don't cook their meat and cows don't cook their grass”

animals also eat their babies and rape eachother, why should we want to be like them?

“cooking is unnatural and satanic”
your phone, clothes, and house are unnatural.

“also 780'000 years is not a very long time in termes of human evolution”

actually extremely true
 
:lul::lul::lul: satanic. lmfao all this time i thought there were high iq objective based comprehensive responses based off of research. turns out this whole fuckin threads been a christian bait farm. stupid niggers will do anything as long as a statment has a 0.0001 percent relation to the bible.

if you actually are willing to put religion aside and talk only facts huamns cooking for 780000 years isnt relgion based. human mouths and digestive systems havent coincidentally gotten less large. its because fire does a huge part of the work in digesting for us, our digestive systems have grown less potent. protein is more bioavaible in cooked meats because your body doesnt have to waste time breaking it down as much. fire does most of it. our bodies handle the rest. thers a reason the volume of food a total human eats is a mere fraction of what a lion eats in a day. because humans have outsourced digestion to fire to help save energy resources and time. and skipping fire is only a good roi when you actually get something meaningful out of it which no one has yet been able to specify
BY religous belife I ment to say that the other dude is blindly folowing what the government told him with ought proff
 
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then dont call the hate on them as "racism"
oml by the way ur talking i wish i was a fucking jew so i could bulldoze your fucking house and bomb the shit out of your city. can u stop fucking whining
 
animals also eat their babies and rape eachother, why should we want to be like them?

“cooking is unnatural and satanic”
your phone, clothes, and house are unnatural.
Animals only eat their babies if they themselfes aer staving as if the mum dies the babie dies anyway from slowly starving so it is actually kind of the parents to eat the babies, yes my phone, clothes and house are unnatural and it would be better hor health if we didn't have these items however in this slave society they are nececairy. In regards to the rape hypothosis, yes animals can rape however rape I would argue is not morally wrong unless another human sees you doing it and doesen't like it (ie the natural law)
 
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oml by the way ur talking i wish i was a fucking jew so i could bulldoze your fucking house and bomb the shit out of your city. can u stop fucking whining
I live in brazil what a Jew could do to my city
im not a fucking arab

 
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Animals only eat their babies if they themselfes aer staving as if the mum dies the babie dies anyway from slowly starving so it is actually kind of the parents to eat the babies
not true. spiders and rodents do it even when under no stress.
animals can rape however rape I would argue is not morally wrong unless another human sees you doing it
and your supposed to be a christian JFL NIGGER DNRD
 
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brahh what nutrients are yall talking about
All enzymes and Probiotics lost , no more growth factors. Micronutrient loss . No more lactase (the enzyme that helps digesting milk that nearly half of the world population does not produce naturally) so it harder to Digest . No more lactofferin. Btw the nutrients are more available with the fat given by the cream. And also has a real taste and not just water with sugar.
 
not true. spiders and rodents do it even when under no stress.

and your supposed to be a christian JFL NIGGER DNRD
How do you know I'm a christian?
 
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