Why trying too hard is ruining your sex appeal

[Lawton88]

Just don't do anything to give that gaymaxxing look. As far as roids if you have built your body up already if you can restrain yourself to one cycle where it's not obvious it can be a big plus. Maybe just a cycle of test. I have seen 6' and over HTNs become Chadlite SMV doing that but you can only do it that one time or it will take a toll later.

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

There is no tryhard if u look like a chad. It is what it is. Tryhard is only. For normies who stil look shitty after tryhard ING. If u tryhard well u will succeed.

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

Just don't do anything to give that gaymaxxing look. As far as roids if you have built your body up already if you can restrain yourself to one cycle where it's not obvious it can be a big plus. Maybe just a cycle of test. I have seen 6' and over HTNs become Chadlite SMV doing that but you can only do it that one time or it will take a toll later.

Girls kinda like a Lil gay look too masculine is bad

 

[RealFunkyFlamingo]

This might be the copest thread out of all. Just get lean and tryhard softmaxxing. It's not that hard. Stop coping for excuses to become lazy jfl. U gotta show all ur good features as good as possible. Girls do that too.

 

[freshpeppermint]

You NEVER want to look like you are trying too hard for your looks.

This might seem counter-intuitive to some of you brain fried PSL-ers, but looking like a tryhard with your looks, in ANY category, is extremely feminine.

Before I continue, I want to show you examples of what being a tryhard at looking good looks like:
-Skincare
-Haircare
-Eyebrow removal
-Dressing with oversided "I look like a fucking geek" clothes
-Being in "bodybuilder"/fitness model(juiced single digit year round) level shape
-Excessive feminine accessories like earrings
Etc you get the idea.

I am not saying absolutely avoid all of these at all costs, but if you do decide that you need to do them, you NEED to make it seem like it is effortless.

Example:
-Dont have dorkish ass hairstyles like fringes,shit that covers your forehead, or any style that looks like it needs 30 minutes to get done. You need a low maintanance hairstyle.
-Do skincare if your skin is really shit (you are wasting your time tho, fix your diet, if that doesnt work, you are genetically doomed in that regard), but dont seem like you put semen on your face.
-Gymmax by all means but don't EVER think to roidmax or be unhealthily low bf as a natural thinking it is maximising your appeal. The reason girls dont like bodybuilders, well one of the biggest reasons why, is because they look way too unnatural and tryhard.
-Remove your eyebrows in some areas if they are really bushy or have a shitty shape, or use something to thicken them, but dont look like you go to the saloon to get them done like a bitch FOR FUCKS SAKE.
Etc etc etc

When you see guys with these kind of traits they look very "kept" and "maintained", and not in a good way.
In a FEMININE WAY.
Sure women will find you attractive if you are objectively attractive, after all, you are an objective attractive person of the opposite sex.
But this doesn't mean that its ideal and your sex appeal is anywhere near where it should be.

There is a reason why rugged masculinity has, is, and will forever be peak male sex appeal. There is a reason why guys like Jason Momoa sorta phenotype is one of the most lust inducing one and is literally unmoggable in real life.

Picture this, imagine a village of 18-25 year old women. Ready to be impregnated.

5 men walk in
Chico
Barrett
Vinnie Faggott
Jason Momoa
O'Pry

Who would you think every girl would want to be impregnated by?

Ofc it would be Jason Momoa, and you are completely delusional and have spent too much time on this forum if you choose any other one.

Apart from Jason's good genetics, sure, plenty of people have good genetics. Does not mean they are peak appeal.

It is because his phenotype embeds the highest form of genetic material in a seamless way. He is obviously put together, but NOTHING looks tryhard.

-He has long hair, which contrary to what you might think, is not feminine, rather the opposite. Men are also supposed to be having long hair despite modern slavecuck society. He wears it in a bun or free flowing all the time, again not putting much effort into it.
-Beard is either a stubble or a longer, but scruffy and not extremely well trimmed, again, displaying low levels of maintanance.
-Does not fraud anything in his face
-Has a muscular physique (which is likely roidmaxxed for certain roles) but even then never anything beyond single digit bf% really, even for Aquaman it probably was 10-12%. He usually walks around at 15% bf or so.
-Has a casual style of clothing, nothing complicated
Etc etc

There are other elements of his sex appeal unrelated to not "tryharding" of course, like skin tone, voice, height, demeanor etc. but looking non-tryhard and seamlessly put together is a HUGE part of it.

I tested this out myself when I MOGGED an entire beach this year. Keep in mind the place was full of tourists, but predominanty white.
I am 6'1, Med-looking, lean muscular physique, longer hair, but with all of these things put together in a non-tryhard way. Not insanely jacked or lean, long hair but simple hairstyle, a simply groomed disconnected goattee.
I mogged prettyboys, Germans and Nordics, some were taller than me but with way less appeal, having way lighter features.
Now you might say oh dark features play a big part in sex appeal, so that was why. Sure, but I did also mog other Latino, Italian and Med looking guys with pretty similar pheno to me, a few might get rated PSL wise higher than me here, but as I am explaining in this post, looked TOO highly maintained.
Especially those Italians. Those mfs looked like a girl ffs. Clean shaven, eyebrows done, earrings, skin looking like they got a facial from all the skincare they prob did, unnessecary jewelery etc.
How do I know I mogged? Because all the girls in the vicinity were choosing me, and all the dudes I mentioned that were there with gfs, I constanly caught them checking me out.
I can PM you pictures if you think I am lying.

Went a little off topic but the main point is, you want to look as best as you genetically can without looking like you are trying.
This goes for anything in life and not just looks/attracting women. It's like those dorks who tryhard at gaming, and even though they are extremely good, people usually despise them for trying so hard and taking such thing so seriously.
It is the same for dating as well. After all, dating is a game too, and you NEVER want to look like you are playing it too seriously. You want to seem like someone who just happens to be great at it seamlessly, even if underneath you have put effort to it.

I also want to make some clarifications as you mfs here take every word at face value and fail to extrapolate.
You obviously have to look at yourself and decide what you absolutely can and cannot afford to do.
For example, yes I said that haircuts that fringe haircuts are unideal, but if you have a heavily receding hairline, it is in your better interest to keep the hair for now.
If you are a little flabby, it is better to wear something more regular sized rather than fitted, until you lose your bodyfat.
You get the idea.

You might say, worthless post, this only applies if you are goodlooking or tall.
But NO, it is in fact the exact OPPOSITE.
If you are short or ugly, anything you do that is overt and clearly shows you are trying to look better, will in fact make you less appealing. Like gymcelling as a 5'6 dude for example, you need to be careful not to put much mass (which is easy to do at that height), as most people will automatically assume you are coping for your height with physique.
If you are goodlooking, you will be perceived as a narcissist and even gay if you look like you take too much care of yourself.

As I previously mentioned, you need to experience with yourself and assess your own situation. Find out what you ABSOLUTELY cannot afford to do, and work around everything else. Don't do every "looksmax" you see here.
I see people in the street who I can tell with almost certainty are on this forum, or at least tiktokcel looksmaxxers. You can straight up tell by their hair, what they wear, their fucking forced squinted expression etc. It looks fucking cringe in real life and is NOT getting any women wet.

You need to effortlessly look as good as you genetically can.

All this makes sense except one thing. you are not in a village of 18-25 year old women. There is something called Status in our society. (Most women also want relationships, they don't just want to be a chad's pump and dump. They'd rather marry a chad.)

Jason wins because of status. But, if all of those were just random dudes, I'd be willing to be chico or vinnie would win because they look like they come from richer families/upperclass and they don't look as super masculine. Perceived status > sex appeal (Again, the looks level isn't even that HUGE in this case, chico and vinnie are both good looking)

You know those k-pop guys who are feminine looking? They still have many women wanting them, the reason for it other than having great hair and skin is because of status and they look like they'd commit. (they also dress well, this is an indicator of status, and they sing love songs which showcases an ability and willingness to pairbond/have a relationship/commit).

Most women aren't looking PURELY for hookups. Evolutionarily women need a guy to not only impregnate the girl with great genes but also take care of her. Take a look at what sells more? Romance novels or Erotica? You can't come in from a strictly sexual perspective.
You'd be 100% right if you meant just from a hookup perspective, if you asked girls which guy would they most likely to pursue short term hookup with.

 

[NitoRump]

All this makes sense except one thing. you are not in a village of 18-25 year old women. There is something called Status in our society. (Most women also want relationships, they don't just want to be a chad's pump and dump. They'd rather marry a chad.)

Jason wins because of status. But, if all of those were just random dudes, I'd be willing to be chico or vinnie would win because they look like they come from richer families/upperclass and they don't look as super masculine. Perceived status > sex appeal (Again, the looks level isn't even that HUGE in this case, chico and vinnie are both good looking)

You know those k-pop guys who are feminine looking? They still have many women wanting them, the reason for it other than having great hair and skin is because of status and they look like they'd commit. (they also dress well, this is an indicator of status, and they sing love songs which showcases an ability and willingness to pairbond/have a relationship/commit).

Most women aren't looking PURELY for hookups. Evolutionarily women need a guy to not only impregnate the girl with great genes but also take care of her. Take a look at what sells more? Romance novels or Erotica? You can't come in from a strictly sexual perspective.
You'd be 100% right if you meant just from a hookup perspective, if you asked girls which guy would they most likely to pursue short term hookup with.

I do agree with you on the hookups vs relationship to an extent, but again, if women could get a guy like Jason and keep him loyal, they would still prefer him over the others. However they know a guy like that is impossible to lock down due to the crazy sex appeal and raw desire he imposes on other women. Its like a man having a pornstar as a wife, you literally cant go out because everyone will look at your wife as a piece of meat. Same goes for that caliber of men. So they do the math and figure out its not worth to seek relationship with that kinda man. So the second option is Chico/Vinnie type, these types of guys are good looking but are dont look like a male slut, and they can show their parents and relatives like a trophy.

 

[NitoRump]

This might be the copest thread out of all. Just get lean and tryhard softmaxxing. It's not that hard. Stop coping for excuses to become lazy jfl. U gotta show all ur good features as good as possible. Girls do that too.

has nothing to do with laziness. Im speaking from my own experience (Im 23 year old grown ass man). I have seen throughout life how differenr men are treated by society and especially women. Men who tryhard with their looks dont get the same respect/ooze the same sex appeal as men who make their looks seem effortless. I have curated my appearance to the post I made and honestly I sex appeal mog everywhere I go. Sure there are other aspects like facial features and pheno which are crucial and you cant control, but Im talking generally. I know what Im talking because I have lived it. feel free to pm if you think Im larping

 

[Healthymaxxer]

bro just wrote that looksmaxxing is cope

 

[PsychoDsk]

exactly what I said, being in bodybuilder/fitness model conditioning year round implies either roid usage or if natty unhealithy low bf. In both cases it is extremely tryhard

cope
does it occur to you that some people's genes include just being naturally shredded year round with a shit ton of muscle?
It's not because you see every guy with hanging tits around you that it's the standard

what a bullshit thread
I slather my face in bb cream and I mog every single dude in my fucking country, both in appeal and psl

 

[rubberduck]

Most retarded post in history of this site, written by an Indian who's family won't allow him to buy skincare products or get his ears pierced

 

[NitoRump]

Most retarded post in history of this site, written by an Indian who's family won't allow him to buy skincare products or get his ears pierced

feel free to pm me and you'll realise Im not indian, if your low IQ forum fried mind cant comprehend, it aint my fault

 

[NitoRump]

cope
does it occur to you that some people's genes include just being naturally shredded year round with a shit ton of muscle?
It's not because you see every guy with hanging tits around you that it's the standard

no, you cannot be shredded with a shit ton of muscle naturally year round. Your definition of "shredded" appears to be 10-12% bf, which is lean but not anywhere near shredded.

what a bullshit thread
I slather my face in bb cream and I mog every single dude in my fucking country, both in appeal and psl

huh, you seem to be the chad of your country then, what are you doing here? Well maybe, I cant disprove what I dont factually know, however I can tell you for a 100% fact though that if you encounter a high dimorphism ruggedly masculine man, you would get mogged to oblivion

 

[NitoRump]

bro just wrote that looksmaxxing is cope

a lot of looksmaxxes are cope, yes

 

[Mogger2000]

Very high iq user with strong introverted intuition