Why YOU should become a socialist (if you are a fascist)

[AryanTrvecel]

Whether you follow Hitler or Mussolini, the basis itself of fascism is based on being progressive and revolutionary. Fascist thinkers all agreed on this concept which is that fascism is for the future and against reactionary thought.

This makes fascism somewhat progressive, and arguably more progressive than capitalism as well. Even though I am not a fascist I prefer it to liberal capitalism. Moreover, a great deal of our problems in the west would be solved through fascism (however socialism is closer to the final solution).

I really don’t see why most fascists don’t become socialists instead. Every goal eg: expansion, state control over the economy, elimination of religion, elimination of trouble causing ethnic groups, etc. Have all been completed under socialist governments whereas fascist ones only did these things halfway.

The Soviet Union exceeded national socialist Germany and other fascist states in terms of expansion of influence and ideology. Moreover, the cause itself was more just as instead of expanding to partially fuel the bourgeoisie (which is what national socialist Germany did) the Soviet Union expanded to spread the revolution and liberate more workers from oppression. Workers of the GDR, Polish people’s republic, etc have arguably better conditions than modern day versions of those states.

I honestly don’t understand how some fascists outright detest socialism, and they view it as a plague when in reality it is simply the next step from their own ideology. Maybe most of these self proclaimed fascists simply don’t understand fascism.

 

[averagetotaluser]

dnr, i love this

 

[GabachoCopium]

 

[romanstock]

I'm not very social tbh.

 

[AryanTrvecel]

dnr, i love this

Thanks bhai

 

[_hvd_]

Whether you follow Hitler or Mussolini, the basis itself of fascism is based on being progressive and revolutionary. Fascist thinkers all agreed on this concept which is that fascism is for the future and against reactionary thought.

Yes this is true fascism Is a non marxiant version of Socialism, you cant just claim that ur ideology Is the real Socialism I myself as a Fascist consider myself a Socialist.

I really don’t see why most fascists don’t become socialists instead. Every goal eg: expansion, state control over the economy, elimination of religion, elimination of trouble causing ethnic groups, etc. Have all been completed under socialist governments whereas fascist ones only did these things halfway.

The thing is Fascism never aimed at eliminating religion fucking larp, there have been multiple Clerical Fascist or very religious Fascist parties and organizations, and the point about expansion and state control yes but the motives were very diffrent because you guys expanded to spread your cancerous ideology while Fascist regimes wanted to conquer and subjagate other peoples to revitalize the nation (palingenesis) and to fulfill the nations spritual and historic destiny.

elimination of trouble causing ethnic groups, etc.

jfl are you even a socialist atp they did this because the refused collectivizaion wich was a honourable thing to do but in fascist instances (if we can consider national socialism as a an offshoot of fascism) its was purely racial and they wanted a pure racial stock and country rather than some ethnic groups refusing a economic model,
fascism (referring to pre hitlerite infulenced classical fascism) was non racist and didnt mention race in its ideology and policies (you would know that if you read giovanni gentiles "Origins And Doctrines Of Fascism" you fucking larp)

the Soviet Union expanded to spread the revolution and liberate more workers from oppression. Workers of the GDR, Polish people’s republic, etc have arguably better conditions than modern day versions of those states.

yeah man killing random kids in afghanistan was liberation from opression, afghanistan was quite alr under the khalq government (a form of afghan juche of nazbolism dont say they were communist if you want i can debate) but they refused soviet troops on afghan land and shit so they afghans took out their leader and installed the parcham faction wich were soviet cocksuckers wich led to the rise of the mujahideen
yea and the thing about having better conditions than modern day states is just fucking wrong like shut the fuck up no eastern european was genuinely happy under socialism execept Stockholm syndrome boomers

 

[_hvd_]

I honestly don’t understand how some fascists outright detest socialism, and they view it as a plague when in reality it is simply the next step from their own ideology. Maybe most of these self proclaimed fascists simply don’t understand fascism.

Nigga you dont understand fascism
we have correctly diagnosed socialism as a cancer
you made poitns that didnt make sense and i corrected you using fascist doctrinal and ideological foundations not "muh aryan blonde racism"

 

[AryanTrvecel]

Yes this is true fascism Is a non marxiant version of Socialism, you cant just claim that ur ideology Is the real Socialism I myself as a Fascist consider myself a Socialist.

You aren’t a socialist unless you want to socialize the means of production. No fascist has done this. Moreover, it doesn’t make sense to consider yourself a socialist if you oppose revolutionary thinkers like Marx, Lenin, Stalin, etc and basically everyone who made theory and the movement in practice.

The thing is Fascism never aimed at eliminating religion fucking larp, there have been multiple Clerical Fascist or very religious Fascist parties and organizations, and the point about expansion and state control yes but the motives were very diffrent because you guys expanded to spread your cancerous ideology while Fascist regimes wanted to conquer and subjagate other peoples to revitalize the nation (palingenesis) and to fulfill the nations spritual and historic destiny.

“Larp” and I was js describing things that some fascists have said. I could rephrase though and say subjugation of the church instead and this would apply to every fascist out there. Also calling socialism “cancerous” is funny since it’s literally just expansion of the revolution to liberate the workers of the world. Something far more concrete and generally beneficial than “revitalization”. I literally never said that fascism isn’t imperialist btw.

jfl are you even a socialist atp they did this because the refused collectivizaion wich was a honourable thing to do but in fascist instances (if we can consider national socialism as a an offshoot of fascism) its was purely racial and they wanted a pure racial stock and country rather than some ethnic groups refusing a economic model,
fascism (referring to pre hitlerite infulenced classical fascism) was non racist and didnt mention race in its ideology and policies (you would know that if you read giovanni gentiles "Origins And Doctrines Of Fascism" you fucking larp)

The ethnic groups that opposed the revolution are troublesome, and if they don’t oppose the revolution then they aren’t. No inconsistency. The outcome matters more than the reason anyway, Hitler didn’t even want to eliminate absolutely everyone who wasn’t part of the people’s community, some who weren’t could be transitioned to Aryan or enslaved. I never said that classical fascism was inherently racist either, note the words “trouble causing”. Mussolini wanted to subjugate or eliminate any trouble causing groups like Ethiopians or Greeks and here trouble causing would mean those who oppose the fascist state rather than those who oppose the revolution. You iqlet you didn’t understand what I said.

yeah man killing random kids in afghanistan was liberation from opression, afghanistan was quite alr under the khalq government (a form of afghan juche of nazbolism dont say they were communist if you want i can debate) but they refused soviet troops on afghan land and shit so they afghans took out their leader and installed the parcham faction wich were soviet cocksuckers wich led to the rise of the mujahideen

Jfl, the Soviets only overthrew Khalq government because they were incompetent and were leading to instability and inviting foreign influence. Tbh Afghanistan is SNCA anyway, expanding the USSR in any way was based and did more than not expanding it.

yea and the thing about having better conditions than modern day states is just fucking wrong like shut the fuck up no eastern european was genuinely happy under socialism execept Stockholm syndrome boomers

Nigga are you retarded? Look at the Soviet unions 1991 referendum. Look at polls in the 2000’s conducted in post communist European states and they both conclude that a majority supported these socialist states of the past. Most of these were millennial or Gen Z who supported these past states. You actual iqlet. I hate talking with iqlets.

 

[_hvd_]

You aren’t a socialist unless you want to socialize the means of production. No fascist has done this. Moreover, it doesn’t make sense to consider yourself a socialist if you oppose revolutionary thinkers like Marx, Lenin, Stalin, etc and basically everyone who made theory and the movement in practice.

“Larp” and I was js describing things that some fascists have said. I could rephrase though and say subjugation of the church instead and this would apply to every fascist out there. Also calling socialism “cancerous” is funny since it’s literally just expansion of the revolution to liberate the workers of the world. Something far more concrete and generally beneficial than “revitalization”. I literally never said that fascism isn’t imperialist btw.

The ethnic groups that opposed the revolution are troublesome, and if they don’t oppose the revolution then they aren’t. No inconsistency. The outcome matters more than the reason anyway, Hitler didn’t even want to eliminate absolutely everyone who wasn’t part of the people’s community, some who weren’t could be transitioned to Aryan or enslaved. I never said that classical fascism was inherently racist either, note the words “trouble causing”. Mussolini wanted to subjugate or eliminate any trouble causing groups like Ethiopians or Greeks and here trouble causing would mean those who oppose the fascist state rather than those who oppose the revolution. You iqlet you didn’t understand what I said.


Jfl, the Soviets only overthrew Khalq government because they were incompetent and were leading to instability and inviting foreign influence. Tbh Afghanistan is SNCA anyway, expanding the USSR in any way was based and did more than not expanding it.


Nigga are you retarded? Look at the Soviet unions 1991 referendum. Look at polls in the 2000’s conducted in post communist European states and they both conclude that a majority supported these socialist states of the past. Most of these were millennial or Gen Z who supported these past states. You actual iqlet. I hate talking with iqlets.

I'mma read this when in free and I'm gonna respond but not rn

 

[ismokecamellights]

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Whether you follow Hitler or Mussolini, the basis itself of fascism is based on being progressive and revolutionary. Fascist thinkers all agreed on this concept which is that fascism is for the future and against reactionary thought.

This makes fascism somewhat progressive, and arguably more progressive than capitalism as well. Even though I am not a fascist I prefer it to liberal capitalism. Moreover, a great deal of our problems in the west would be solved through fascism (however socialism is closer to the final solution).

I really don’t see why most fascists don’t become socialists instead. Every goal eg: expansion, state control over the economy, elimination of religion, elimination of trouble causing ethnic groups, etc. Have all been completed under socialist governments whereas fascist ones only did these things halfway.

The Soviet Union exceeded national socialist Germany and other fascist states in terms of expansion of influence and ideology. Moreover, the cause itself was more just as instead of expanding to partially fuel the bourgeoisie (which is what national socialist Germany did) the Soviet Union expanded to spread the revolution and liberate more workers from oppression. Workers of the GDR, Polish people’s republic, etc have arguably better conditions than modern day versions of those states.

I honestly don’t understand how some fascists outright detest socialism, and they view it as a plague when in reality it is simply the next step from their own ideology. Maybe most of these self proclaimed fascists simply don’t understand fascism.

interesting post bro!

 

[AryanTrvecel]

Nigga you dont understand fascism
we have correctly diagnosed socialism as a cancer
you made poitns that didnt make sense and i corrected you using fascist doctrinal and ideological foundations not "muh aryan blonde racism"

Nah I have a pretty good understanding, tbh I alr responded to u and I think everything I said makes sense.

Tbh I don’t know why you think that I believe ts

“corrected you using fascist doctrinal and ideological foundations not "muh aryan blonde racism"

Like bro I don’t even think this of anything other than natsoc and not even to this extent. Don’t know why u got that impression but I’ll change my wording next time if u want.

 

[AryanTrvecel]

I'mma read this when in free and I'm gonna respond but not rn

Ok

 

[_hvd_]

Nah I have a pretty good understanding, tbh I alr responded to u and I think everything I said makes sense.

Tbh I don’t know why you think that I believe ts

“corrected you using fascist doctrinal and ideological foundations not "muh aryan blonde racism"

Like bro I don’t even think this of anything other than natsoc and not even to this extent. Don’t know why u got that impression but I’ll change my wording next time if u want.

Yea I thought u were js sum random nigger ther didn't understand fascism

 

[AryanTrvecel]

I thought u were js sum nigger

how did you know I was Somali bro

 

[_hvd_]

how did you know I was Somali bro

Are you ACC Somali?

 

[Hess]

Soviet style socialism was a failure though, and yes national socialism lend a lot of its economic theories to socialism it was far more distinct to the leftists and of a completely different take on it, they supported class collaboration and respected private property, banned trade unions and forced everyone into one state sponsored union, sort of like modern day china

 

[_hvd_]

Holy Larp
Russian Nazbolism Lacks Any Real Ideological Depth