Why You Shouldn't Major In Or Work In STEM low [2:07:35]

[Deleted member 11126]

None of what I listed is stem

CS is stem

Science Technology Engineering Mathematics

Any arts degree is fine.
Economics degree
English degree
IT degree
Linguistics degree
Computer science degree
Accounting degree
Nursing degree
Teaching degree
Internet hustler (youtuber)
Gambler
Retail/warehouse/store clerk
Security guard
Painter

CS and IT fit the criteria also top accounting economics and Finance people all minor in math or CS so unless you have a connection to get a 6 figure+ job you need math and or coding soft skills with a lot of these business majors. English Art and Linguistics is just nonsense and worthless

Getting a deadend job is not fun its honestly slightly better to be a neet. You will never be able to travel extensively or have a family retire early eat out afford nice things ect

 

[incel194012940]

THey've been brainwashed their whole lives to think having a chill "deadend job" is a bad thing

I have a “dead end job” that is only 2 hours a day and even that is more money than I can spend once I cut ridiculous spending habits that did not improve quality of life

 

[Deleted member 11126]

I have a “dead end job” that is only 2 hours a day and even that is more money than I can spend once I cut ridiculous spending habits that did not improve quality of life

I make 3 grand a month and I get in debt an extra 500 a month? Hookers aren't cheap here

 

[bara]

THey've been brainwashed their whole lives to think having a chill "deadend job" is a bad thing

With the current cost of living, yes, it is shit.

Try raising children with dead end jobs and giving them a good life.

Not everything is about having a “chill” job that pays you fuck all for being a drone on a daily basis with no upward mobility in your career.

Do you seriously think working the same exact dead end job for years on end with little to no increase in wage is a good thing?

If anything you’ve been brainwashed into thinking STEM/trades are shit because you are too low IQ to do anything relevant so you continue to shit on those who choose to do so for your own good.

Just hedonistic nhilism theory.

 

[bara]

I have a “dead end job” that is only 2 hours a day and even that is more money than I can spend once I cut ridiculous spending habits that did not improve quality of life

Working 2 hours a day being able to provide you with “more money than you can spend” leads me to believe you still live with your mother.

Irrelevant.

 

[bara]

None of what I listed is stem

Economics degree
IT degree
Computer science degree

 

[incel194012940]

I make 3 grand a month and I get in debt an extra 500 a month? Hookers aren't cheap here

But pornhub at the public library is free

Working 2 hours a day being able to provide you with “more money than you can spend” leads me to believe you still live with your mother.

Irrelevant.

i live underground

 

[Adamsmith12345]

just soundcloudmaxx, YouTube max bro

I’m sure you’ll succeed

 

[Lancelot Lovejoy]

Life is about seasons.
Waste all the energy required rn to have a prosperous future for yourself then u can chill.
This guy most likely don't take care of himself and is fat and balding

This guy actually has a PhD in solid state physics along with numerous publications as well as patents for medical technology. He's also gymmaxed.
It got him nowhere as far as dating is concerned. He spent 50-80 hours a week working with stinky pajeets while guys in the service sector got to work with prime aged women.

Furthermore, the amount of time it took to attain a STEM PhD from an elite university meant that he had to spend his college years just studymaxing.
He grew up believing that attaining his academic/career goals meant that everything else in his life would work out well. It didn't. Romance doesn't just happen the way that it did for boomers. Especially not if you spend most of your waking hours working in a male dominated STEM field. He also mentioned in other videos that most of his STEM classmates are either incel or married to a low tier Becky. Meanwhile, all the guys from highschool who just chilled and party maxed have families.
His thesis is that a STEM oriented life massively increases the odds of inceldom.

This is a warning to zoomer men from a guy who took his STEMmaxing about as far as you can take it.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

This guy actually has a PhD in solid state physics along with numerous publications as well as patents for medical technology. He's also gymmaxed.
It got him nowhere as far as dating is concerned. He spent 50-80 hours a week working with stinky pajeets while guys in the service sector got to work with prime aged women.

Furthermore, the amount of time it took to attain a STEM PhD from an elite university meant that he had to spend his college years just studymaxing.
He grew up believing that attaining his academic/career goals meant that everything else in his life would work out well. It didn't. Romance doesn't just happen the way that it did for boomers. Especially not if you spend most of your waking hours working in a male dominated STEM field. He also mentioned in other videos that most of his STEM classmates are either incel or married to a low tier Becky. Meanwhile, all the guys from highschool who just chilled and party maxed have families.
His thesis is that a STEM oriented life massively increases the odds of inceldom.

This is a warning to zoomer men from a guy who took his STEMmaxing about as far as you can take it.

Cause /= causation. A lot of people in STEM would have been incels either way. I do agree that being a PHD physics major is probably not a good idea unless your a 1 in 10000 genius who has something of value to offer the world but there's a middle ground just get a 4 year degree in CS or MIS. Something tech/information or finance based is probably your best bet.

Wage slaving won't work for any career if you are ugly do you think the 5'4 Indian working as a doctor would be any better if he got a meme degree and partied?

The issue is these guys think their money and degree will make up for them being a loser in all aspects. If your very ugly or autistic a STEM job will only help you betabux vs a normie with these jobs can get a smart mid tier wife and have a good life 99% of the time. Money can help you a lot but it can't preform miracles it cannot turn an incel into a normie or a normie into a chad...

 

[bara]

This guy actually has a PhD in solid state physics along with numerous publications as well as patents for medical technology. He's also gymmaxed.
It got him nowhere as far as dating is concerned. He spent 50-80 hours a week working with stinky pajeets while guys in the service sector got to work with prime aged women.

Furthermore, the amount of time it took to attain a STEM PhD from an elite university meant that he had to spend his college years just studymaxing.
He grew up believing that attaining his academic/career goals meant that everything else in his life would work out well. It didn't. Romance doesn't just happen the way that it did for boomers. Especially not if you spend most of your waking hours working in a male dominated STEM field. He also mentioned in other videos that most of his STEM classmates are either incel or married to a low tier Becky. Meanwhile, all the guys from highschool who just chilled and party maxed have families.
His thesis is that a STEM oriented life massively increases the odds of inceldom.

This is a warning to zoomer men from a guy who took his STEMmaxing about as far as you can take it.

Appeal to authority fallacy and this guy is just miserable trying to spread his doom around.

You don’t need a fucking PHD to make bank at FAANGs lol, that was his fault.

I’ve said this before, if you land in STEM chances are you were socially awkward to begin with (not always but often the case).

STEM doesn’t cause you to be socially awkward, it attracts the socially awkward.

This is a problem with himself not STEM itself.

You are telling me if this guy went into anything outside STEM his life would magically get better?

Go into finance if you want to have a more social professional life.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Appeal to authority fallacy and this guy is just miserable trying to spread his doom around.

You don’t need a fucking PHD to make bank at FAANGs lol, that was his fault.

I’ve said this before, if you land in STEM chances are you were socially awkward to begin with (not always but often the case).

STEM doesn’t cause you to be socially awkward, it attracts the socially awkward.

This is a problem with himself not STEM itself.

You are telling me if this guy went into anything outside STEM his life would magically get better?

Go into finance if you want to have a more social professional life.

What degree or career path are you pursuing ?

 

[bara]

What degree or career path are you pursuing ?

Finance finishing in December.

Looking to get into FP&A or corporate development.

Maybe PE if I can get into IB and stomach the hours but I doubt it lol.

 

[Deleted member 18931]

only people who like stem are chinks and curry's whos parents force them to do it for 16 hours a day

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Finance finishing in December.

Looking to get into FP&A or corporate development.

Maybe PE if I can get into IB and stomach the hours but I doubt it lol.

I'm 19 got some college credit and AP about a semester worth I will probably go into MIS. I heard Finance is not good unless you go to Ivy League or feeder schools. Or if you wanted to get a good job to just get a math degree and minor in Finance.

I think MIS is a good compromise

 

[Deleted member 11126]

only people who like stem are chinks and curry's whos parents force them to do it for 16 hours a day

Plenty of White guys in it too... Its only because the prerequisite is being semi smart so most Asians and Indians qualify.

 

[poopoohead]

Yeah here is my arts degree let me build your bombs theory.

I love theories

 

[bara]

I'm 19 got some college credit and AP about a semester worth I will probably go into MIS. I heard Finance is not good unless you go to Ivy League or feeder schools. Or if you wanted to get a good job to just get a math degree and minor in Finance.

I think MIS is a good compromise

I would say this is mostly true for IB.

IB is “technically” the equivalent of working as a software engineer, it’s basically what every finance bro dreams of, except it’s usually a pipe dream and they don’t realize the hellish hours that are ahead of them (think 8am to 10pm daily).

Working at something like Goldman or JP Morgan is on par with having a FAANG on your resume.

Regardless, finance isn’t all just IB.

There’s a lot of things you can do that don’t need you to be from a target school, but it does help a lot.

What is most important is networking and getting internships asap.

Make a LinkedIn and be fake as fuck and befriend everyone you can.

As for the math degree thing, it is true that a lot of people with math degrees can move into finance, I’d say especially true for quantitative finance, but it’s not the end of the world if you just have a finance degree, again it’s mostly about internships, networking, club/school/community activity etc.


There’s also accounting, and working at a big 4. Once you have big 4 on your resume (basically the FAANGs of accounting) you can leverage that into really well paying jobs.

This will help :

Rather oversimplified but it provides guidance.

 

[Crusile]

I'm 19 got some college credit and AP about a semester worth I will probably go into MIS. I heard Finance is not good unless you go to Ivy League or feeder schools. Or if you wanted to get a good job to just get a math degree and minor in Finance.

I think MIS is a good compromise

you should never do a "finance degree", they are completely worthless. The only useful classes in finance degrees are macromicroeconomics

 

[Lancelot Lovejoy]

Appeal to authority fallacy and this guy is just miserable trying to spread his doom around.

You don’t need a fucking PHD to make bank at FAANGs lol, that was his fault.

I’ve said this before, if you land in STEM chances are you were socially awkward to begin with (not always but often the case).

STEM doesn’t cause you to be socially awkward, it attracts the socially awkward.

This is a problem with himself not STEM itself.

You are telling me if this guy went into anything outside STEM his life would magically get better?

Go into finance if you want to have a more social professional life.

I'm simply paraphrasing what this guy has said over several videos. I'm not really sure how that's an appeal to authority fallacy.
Would his life have been better had he not attained the level of education that he did? Considering the amount of work it took to get a PhD, plus the amount of work required after you land a job and start working on parents etc, i think he could've at least had a chance to enjoy his youth, regardless of any other personal problems.

Cause /= causation. A lot of people in STEM would have been incels either way. I do agree that being a PHD physics major is probably not a good idea unless your a 1 in 10000 genius who has something of value to offer the world but there's a middle ground just get a 4 year degree in CS or MIS. Something tech/information or finance based is probably your best bet.

Wage slaving won't work for any career if you are ugly do you think the 5'4 Indian working as a doctor would be any better if he got a meme degree and partied?

The issue is these guys think their money and degree will make up for them being a loser in all aspects. If your very ugly or autistic a STEM job will only help you betabux vs a normie with these jobs can get a smart mid tier wife and have a good life 99% of the time. Money can help you a lot but it can't preform miracles it cannot turn an incel into a normie or a normie into a chad...

This guy was, in fact, a genius. He stated in other vids that he has a 155 iq, perfect SAT scores etc. The reason he attributes many of his social failures to STEMmaxing is because the amount of effort required made him sacrifice social experiences in his youth. I do agree that it's a better idea to do a 4 year degree instead.

Btw, I know two CS chads who got high level coding jobs after uni. I outslayed them massively post uni bc I had the time to go out and meet people.

I think it's important for young guys who have a lot of non career social aspirations to remember that pursuing STEM work means that there's a good chance they'll have to put alot of that on the back burner indefinitely

 

[Deleted member 18931]

Plenty of White guys in it too... Its only because the prerequisite is being semi smart so most Asians and Indians qualify.

Future of all stemcels

 

[Moggie]

chill job

teacher or retail worker

 

[Moggie]

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provided the degree is not a gigameme having the piece of paper helps you earn more than those without and you recoup the costs in a few years

 

[Crusile]

Working 2 hours a day being able to provide you with “more money than you can spend” leads me to believe you still live with your mother.

Irrelevant.

cost of living
but noo you cant live with your parents or have a nomad (homeless) lifestyle, u must consoom $3000 a month living expenses

 

[Deleted member 11126]

I'm simply paraphrasing what this guy has said over several videos. I'm not really sure how that's an appeal to authority fallacy.
Would his life have been better had he not attained the level of education that he did? Considering the amount of work it took to get a PhD, plus the amount of work required after you land a job and start working on parents etc, i think he could've at least had a chance to enjoy his youth, regardless of any other personal problems.

This guy was, in fact, a genius. He stated in other vids that he has a 155 iq, perfect SAT scores etc. The reason he attributes many of his social failures to STEMmaxing is because the amount of effort required made him sacrifice social experiences in his youth. I do agree that it's a better idea to do a 4 year degree instead.

Btw, I know two CS chads who got high level coding jobs after uni. I outslayed them massively post uni bc I had the time to go out and meet people.

I think it's important for young guys who have a lot of non career social aspirations to remember that pursuing STEM work means that there's a good chance they'll have to put alot of that on the back burner indefinitely

Its hard to say man... I know a genius similar to your friend who is in an Ivy League school doing autistic shit all day but its the only thing stimulating enough for a guy like that.

I do agree that being one of these autists who spends 12 hours a day coding is bad. I mean I might grind for year but I can't grind for 5 years straight. You gotta live a little which means taking gap years and enjoying life. If you get a 4 year degree and work hard you can still manage to have fun and get crucial soft skills. Like ideally before 25 you should have math/coding softskills and maybe something like learning a second language

 

[Deleted member 11126]

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Better to be an autist with money then a broke autist.

 

[SeiGun]

you need to be blackpilled if you want to persuit STEMcel path, or you gonna get cucked hard in every turn of your life,
your sacrifice and work all most likely going to get capitalize by some boomer or chad with lower intelligence than you

 

[Deleted member 11126]

I would say this is mostly true for IB.

IB is “technically” the equivalent of working as a software engineer, it’s basically what every finance bro dreams of, except it’s usually a pipe dream and they don’t realize the hellish hours that are ahead of them (think 8am to 10pm daily).

Working at something like Goldman or JP Morgan is on par with having a FAANG on your resume.

Regardless, finance isn’t all just IB.

There’s a lot of things you can do that don’t need you to be from a target school, but it does help a lot.

What is most important is networking and getting internships asap.

Make a LinkedIn and be fake as fuck and befriend everyone you can.

As for the math degree thing, it is true that a lot of people with math degrees can move into finance, I’d say especially true for quantitative finance, but it’s not the end of the world if you just have a finance degree, again it’s mostly about internships, networking, club/school/community activity etc.


There’s also accounting, and working at a big 4. Once you have big 4 on your resume (basically the FAANGs of accounting) you can leverage that into really well paying jobs.

This will help :

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Rather oversimplified but it provides guidance.

Interesting image... Btw out of curiosity have ever heard of an MIS degree I know they relate a lot to Finance or have overlapping roles...

 

[Lancelot Lovejoy]

Its hard to say man... I know a genius similar to your friend who is in an Ivy League school doing autistic shit all day but its the only thing stimulating enough for a guy like that.

I do agree that being one of these autists who spends 12 hours a day coding is bad. I mean I might grind for year but I can't grind for 5 years straight. You gotta live a little which means taking gap years and enjoying life. If you get a 4 year degree and work hard you can still manage to have fun and get crucial soft skills. Like ideally before 25 you should have math/coding softskills and maybe something like learning a second language

In think you have the right approach to a work life balance. A true genius is so consumed with whatever niche they're obsessed with that they don't really have control over it. Normal people, however, do.
I think those goals are very achievable before 25 with some partying/travel etc mixed in. One of my STEMcel comp e friends also recommends just getting a job with a non elite company away from any major urban hubs. The pay will still be good, but nowhere close to the best. However, you're way more likely to work a regular 9 to 5 most of the time compared to the demands that a more elite companies make.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

In think you have the right approach to a work life balance. A true genius is so consumed with whatever niche they're obsessed with that they don't really have control over it. Normal people, however, do.
I think those goals are very achievable before 25 with some partying/travel etc mixed in. One of my STEMcel comp e friends also recommends just getting a job with a non elite company away from any major urban hubs. The pay will still be good, but nowhere close to the best. However, you're way more likely to work a regular 9 to 5 most of the time compared to the demands that a more elite companies make.

I want to hopefully get an online job don't want to reveal too much but my dads job is pretty sweet and he just works 40-50 hours a week at home

 

[Deleted member 18931]

provided the degree is not a gigameme having the piece of paper helps you earn more than those without and you recoup the costs in a few years

true. i have confirmed 200IQ so I should rise the ranks of the corporate ladder quick and make $1,000,000 a year easily

 

[Moggie]

true. i have confirmed 200IQ so I should rise the ranks of the corporate ladder quick and make $1,000,000 a year easily

 

[Deleted member 11126]

you should never do a "finance degree", they are completely worthless. The only useful classes in finance degrees are macromicroeconomics

So why is a finance degree worse then an econ one?

 

[Crusile]

So why is a finance degree worse then an econ one?

there isnt much to "finance". Finance classes are filler classes to extract money idk. Its a made up degree, not a real subject vs economics is which is a real subject

 

[Tylermax]

utter cope

Every girl I know anytime I tell her a friend of mine does computer science she's despised and they instantly consider him a nerd. Only profession that women admire and instantly think of it as high value is doctor or lawyer. Then they get horny by cops firefighters athletes and actors. That's life. Computer science is cope. Saturated and people who actually make money are not even doing it for the money they genuinely love this shit but unfortunately most of them are virgin looking with skinny asf forearms. Name me one famous CS YouTuber who is buffed and manly looking. Noone.

 

[bara]

there isnt much to "finance". Finance classes are filler classes to extract money idk. Its a made up degree, not a real subject vs economics is which is a real subject

You do realize "finance degree" is an oversimplification right.

It is an extension of a business administration/commerce degree in which you choose to major in the subject of Finance (or others) in your 3rd year.

In 90% of these BBA degrees you are exposed to economics, accounting, IT, HR, operations, management, finance, and a whole list of other classes by default not just limited to your major.

And jfl at thinking an economics degree is more valuable than finance.

Every single bank and financial institution is composed of finance majors in the back, middle and their front offices.

You are simply pulling shit out of your ass.

Goes to show how delusional you are.

 

[Crusile]

You do realize "finance degree" is an oversimplification right.

It is an extension of a business administration/commerce degree in which you choose to major in the subject of Finance (or others) in your 3rd year.

In 90% of these BBA degrees you are exposed to economics, accounting, IT, HR, operations, management, finance, and a whole list of other classes by default not just limited to your major.

And jfl at thinking an economics degree is more valuable than finance.

Every single bank and financial institution is composed of finance majors in the back, middle and their front offices.

You are simply pulling shit out of your ass.

Goes to show how delusional you are.

an economics degree is more valuable, finance classes and business class are literally worthless. You can learn the entirely of the field of finance in a few weeks. Finance is good for slavery tier office jobs good luck lil bro

 

[bara]

an economics degree is more valuable, finance classes and business class are literally worthless. You can learn the entirely of the field of finance in a few weeks. Finance is good for slavery tier office jobs good luck lil bro

The only reason I am responding to you is that I worry at the young impressionable people that may fall for your blatant misinformation and degeneracy.

And the irony in that I have experience with both Econ and finance concentrations and you are just a random basement dweller for all I know.

With Econ you’ll most likely end up in 2 places :

Either working as an economist at your government /federal bank (and this is if you are genuinely gifted/high IQ) or continuing to do research via academia at schools.

The competition for these jobs is significant.

Not much outside that.

You can ask every Econ professor what the road path is for an Econ degree and they will tell you this exact same thing.

And as I already said, even as a finance major you will be exposed to Econ classes (macro and micro) and the farther you go into Econ the more theoretical it becomes to the point where the classes start to become useless in a real world setting (in comparison to finance), which is why most Econ graduates end in academia(research) or a government bank in the best case, there isn’t much use for their work outside that. Banks don’t need many economists, most of their higher end work is theoretical in nature.

Only the fundamentals of economics are necessary at the industry level, which is easy stuff.

With a finance/business degree the doors are infinitely more open, you can go into banking, real estate, HR, project development, supply chain and operations, accounting and so on.

You are a delusional person who continuous to shit on these ideas with 0 data to back up your claims aside from dog shit cherry picked articles and from my understanding so far has not actually stepped foot into a university but claims to know all about it.

Overall employment of financial analysts is projected to grow 9 percent from 2021 to 2031, faster than the average for all occupations.

About 32,000 openings for financial analysts are projected each year, on average, over the decade. Many of those openings are expected to result from the need to replace workers who transfer to different occupations or exit the labor force, such as to retire.

Financial Analysts

Financial analysts guide businesses and individuals in decisions about expending money to attain profit.

www.bls.gov

Employment of economists is projected to grow 6 percent from 2021 to 2031, about as fast as the average for all occupations.

About 1,400 openings for economists are projected each year, on average, over the decade. Many of those openings are expected to result from the need to replace workers who transfer to different occupations or exit the labor force, such as to retire.

Economists : Occupational Outlook Handbook: : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Economists collect and analyze data, research trends, and evaluate economic issues for resources, goods, and services.

www.bls.gov

Ignoring this thread now

 

[Crusile]

The only reason I am responding to you is that I worry at the young impressionable people that may fall for your blatant misinformation and degeneracy.

And the irony in that I have experience with both Econ and finance concentrations and you are just a random basement dweller for all I know.

With Econ you’ll most likely end up in 2 places :

Either working as an economist at your government /federal bank (and this is if you are genuinely gifted/high IQ) or continuing to do research via academia at schools.

The competition for these jobs is significant.

Not much outside that.

You can ask every Econ professor what the road path is for an Econ degree and they will tell you this exact same thing.

And as I already said, even as a finance major you will be exposed to Econ classes (macro and micro) and the farther you go into Econ the more theoretical it becomes to the point where the classes start to become useless in a real world setting (in comparison to finance), which is why most Econ graduates end in academia(research) or a government bank in the best case, there isn’t much use for their work outside that. Banks don’t need many economists, most of their higher end work is theoretical in nature.

Only the fundamentals of economics are necessary at the industry level, which is easy stuff.

With a finance/business degree the doors are infinitely more open, you can go into banking, real estate, HR, project development, supply chain and operations, accounting and so on.

You are a delusional person who continuous to shit on these ideas with 0 data to back up your claims aside from dog shit cherry picked articles and from my understanding so far has not actually stepped foot into a university but claims to know all about it.



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Financial Analysts

Financial analysts guide businesses and individuals in decisions about expending money to attain profit.

www.bls.gov

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Economists : Occupational Outlook Handbook: : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Economists collect and analyze data, research trends, and evaluate economic issues for resources, goods, and services.

www.bls.gov

Ignoring this thread now

LOL you can get a "financial analyst" job with an economics degree. "economists" have graduate degrees

You can ask every Econ professor what the road path is for an Econ degree and they will tell you this exact same thing.

autism

 

[Crusile]

The the curriculum is almost worthless, I feel bad for you if you actually did a finance degree

 

[Crusile]

I doubt bara has ever had a job in the industry, jfl he thinks "economists" are undergrads?
Econ degrees bar you from finance and banking related jobs..because.