Will 12 IUs of Human Growth Hormone cause Acromegaly? Extensive Study.

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Will 12 IUs of Human Growth Hormone cause Acromegaly?

Multiple manlets on this Website will tell u that a Dosage like 10 to 15 IUs of HGH will cause Acromegaly, Few Examples pertain to;
acromegaly speedrun

Develop acromegaly
For tards that think HGH is a superpower

Now there are multiple Factors that come into play here when developing Acromegaly from Exogenous GH usage.

(If you do not wish to read all this, Then U can skip to reading only 3 Sections.)
1. Dosage of HGH
2. Elevated vs Pinning
3. Conclusion


#1. The Cycle's Duration
In multiple recorded Acromegaly cases, Acromegaly was caused through hightened GH Exposure for Years to Decades, And it mainly comes from Pituitary Adenoma's (Pituitary Gland Tumors). This is what we see in multiple Guinness World Record holder's for Height, They mainly have Pituitary Tumours causing Excessive Growth Hormone at an elevated rate, not in spikes (like what we see in Injections), And we particularly see in Patients with Acromegaly that this causes facial changes over the duration of Years to a Decade (and a Half in some cases). You would need to be pinning for years on end to even start having the facial aesthetics of Acromegaly.

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Sources that I used to deduce this:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12428067
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2563724
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/1472-6823-14-97
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19884662

#2. The Dosage of HGH
Now this is the factor that most of these people focus on, The amount of HGH being pinned during your cycle. Now if youre like the first dude that was mentioned above, youll basically be called a retard because your disregarding the Timing of the Injection, How long the Cycle will be, and at what age the Pinning is; and will just act like 12 IUs will make u True Ogre while disregarding Science because the person informing u has under 50 posts :)lul:)

- What should be the Dosage taken at Tanner IV?
There are multiple arguments on what dosage fits Adolescents in Pubertal Stage Tanner IV, However, The People arguing for a lower dosage being Endogenous Production are conflating many thing's into one. Adolescents produce around 1.9 to 2.2 Milligrams of HGH per day, meaning 5.7 IUS to 6.6 IUs Daily. Now if we were to inject Human Growth Hormone, BIoavailability would be a big marker in deciding wether we grow or not. Assuming Injections will be Intra-Musculature, The Bio-Availability is really weak around that area (Measured around 63%), meaning if u were producing 6 IUs endogenously, youd need 9.6 IUs just to MATCH your Endogenous Production, and around 12 IUs to actually be having a benefit:lul::lul:. Sub-Q has Better Bio-Availability, Ranging for 75 to 82%. Overall, you would need to be injecting over 9 IUs to actually make a difference in comparison to Endogenous (Natural) Production.
Studies I used to deduce this dosage:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14964431
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2016/019640s104lbl.pdf
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1730812

#3. Elevated Levels vs Pinning
Patients of Acromegaly and Cardiomegaly always have Elevated Levels of Human Growth Hormone and IGF1, Meaning no matter what, The HGH in their blood is always at a constant level, and higher than the Healthy Adult; This means that even IF their body wanted to lower the dosage, its efforts would be in vain. However, People who inject rHGH do not have continuously elevated GH levels in their bloodstream. After injection, The HGH will circulate around the blood, it peaks approximately 2–4 hours post-administration and is cleared from the blood within a few hours due to its short plasma half-life. The longer-lasting effects are mediated indirectly through IGF-1, which remains elevated well after circulating GH has declined; The only way u can get "acromegaly" via Exogenous HGH is by through Hightened IGF1 Levels which can cause mild acromegaloid features (not like the Ogre Features youre already informed about).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8949572


#4. Figures who are known to have injected large amounts of Growth Hormone
-Richi Piana 20 IUs ED of Serostim (Pharma) Human Growth Hormone.
Richi Piana has previously talked in multiple interviews about his previous cycles involving Growth Hormone, where he has started off with 8 IU's, and went up to 20 Ius daily, presumably for a few years. And he does not have a large jaw, he doesnt have a prominent nose, and he does not have Acromegaly.

-Ronnie Coleman; 9 IUs ED of Serostim.
Ronnie Coleman has talked about his experience with anabolics, while denying the use of Trenbolone, Synthol, and Insulin, admitted to using Testosterone and Human Growth Hormone under the supervision of a Doctor.

Conclusion:
No, Youre not gonna get Acromegaly if u pin HGH over 3 IUs, Your heart is not gonna buss when u decide to hop on a 3 week cycle of 6 IUs, and you aren't cutting your life span by 20 years if you go over 8 IU's. If you want to pin under 12 IUs then go for it, your money, not mine. But the entire propoganda behind "Over 10 IUs = Acromegaly, Heart attack, Cancer, and your family dying in a car crash" is frankly retarded.

Acromegaly is simply Elevated HGH Circulating in your blood for Years on end, Nobody here is going to be injecting 30 IUs of HGH for a decade. Hence Acromegaly isn't an issue to be concerned with when cycling/stacking Human Growth Hormone.
 
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Will 12 IUs of Human Growth Hormone cause Acromegaly?

Multiple manlets on this Website will tell u that a Dosage like 10 to 15 IUs of HGH will cause Acromegaly, Few Examples pertain to;
acromegaly speedrun

Develop acromegaly
For tards that think HGH is a superpower

Now there are multiple Factors that come into play here when developing Acromegaly from Exogenous GH usage.

(If you do not wish to read all this, Then U can skip to reading only 3 Sections.)
1. Dosage of HGH
2. Elevated vs Pinning
3. Conclusion


#1. The Cycle's Duration
In multiple recorded Acromegaly cases, Acromegaly was caused through hightened GH Exposure for Years to Decades, And it mainly comes from Pituitary Adenoma's (Pituitary Gland Tumors). This is what we see in multiple Guinness World Record holder's for Height, They mainly have Pituitary Tumours causing Excessive Growth Hormone at an elevated rate, not in spikes (like what we see in Injections), And we particularly see in Patients with Acromegaly that this causes facial changes over the duration of Years to a Decade (and a Half in some cases). You would need to be pinning for years on end to even start having the facial aesthetics of Acromegaly.

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Sources that I used to deduce this:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12428067
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2563724
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/1472-6823-14-97
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19884662

#2. The Dosage of HGH
Now this is the factor that most of these people focus on, The amount of HGH being pinned during your cycle. Now if youre like the first dude that was mentioned above, youll basically be called a retard because your disregarding the Timing of the Injection, How long the Cycle will be, and at what age the Pinning is; and will just act like 12 IUs will make u True Ogre while disregarding Science because the person informing u has under 50 posts :)lul:)

- What should be the Dosage taken at Tanner IV?
There are multiple arguments on what dosage fits Adolescents in Pubertal Stage Tanner IV, However, The People arguing for a lower dosage being Endogenous Production are conflating many thing's into one. Adolescents produce around 1.9 to 2.2 Milligrams of HGH per day, meaning 5.7 IUS to 6.6 IUs Daily. Now if we were to inject Human Growth Hormone, BIoavailability would be a big marker in deciding wether we grow or not. Assuming Injections will be Intra-Musculature, The Bio-Availability is really weak around that area (Measured around 63%), meaning if u were producing 6 IUs endogenously, youd need 9.6 IUs just to MATCH your Endogenous Production, and around 12 IUs to actually be having a benefit:lul::lul:. Sub-Q has Better Bio-Availability, Ranging for 75 to 82%. Overall, you would need to be injecting over 9 IUs to actually make a difference in comparison to Endogenous (Natural) Production.
Studies I used to deduce this dosage:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14964431
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2016/019640s104lbl.pdf
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1730812

#3. Elevated Levels vs Pinning
Patients of Acromegaly and Cardiomegaly always have Elevated Levels of Human Growth Hormone and IGF1, Meaning no matter what, The HGH in their blood is always at a constant level, and higher than the Healthy Adult; This means that even IF their body wanted to lower the dosage, its efforts would be in vain. However, People who inject rHGH do not have continuously elevated GH levels in their bloodstream. After injection, The HGH will circulate around the blood, it peaks approximately 2–4 hours post-administration and is cleared from the blood within a few hours due to its short plasma half-life. The longer-lasting effects are mediated indirectly through IGF-1, which remains elevated well after circulating GH has declined; The only way u can get "acromegaly" via Exogenous HGH is by through Hightened IGF1 Levels which can cause mild acromegaloid features (not like the Ogre Features youre already informed about).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8949572


#4. Figures who are known to have injected large amounts of Growth Hormone
-Richi Piana 20 IUs ED of Serostim (Pharma) Human Growth Hormone.
Richi Piana has previously talked in multiple interviews about his previous cycles involving Growth Hormone, where he has started off with 8 IU's, and went up to 20 Ius daily, presumably for a few years. And he does not have a large jaw, he doesnt have a prominent nose, and he does not have Acromegaly.

-Ronnie Coleman; 9 IUs ED of Serostim.
Ronnie Coleman has talked about his experience with anabolics, while denying the use of Trenbolone, Synthol, and Insulin, admitted to using Testosterone and Human Growth Hormone under the supervision of a Doctor.

Conclusion:
No, Youre not gonna get Acromegaly if u pin HGH over 3 IUs, Your heart is not gonna buss when u decide to hop on a 3 week cycle of 6 IUs, and you aren't cutting your life span by 20 years if you go over 8 IU's. If you want to pin under 12 IUs then go for it, your money, not mine. But the entire propoganda behind "Over 10 IUs = Acromegaly, Heart attack, Cancer, and your family dying in a car crash" is frankly retarded.

Acromegaly is simply Elevated HGH Circulating in your blood for Years on end, Nobody here is going to be injecting 30 IUs of HGH for a decade. Hence Acromegaly isn't an issue to be concerned with when cycling/stacking Human Growth Hormone.
bump. are you on 12ius?
 
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DNR ur gonna wake up with sausage fingers
I have sausage fingers rn not even a joke

spamming pullups, >>>> big meat hands, modest dose 7-8iu
 
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Not yet, but soon I will be. Just need my stack to stop getting hoarded at customs like the past 3 times

time for bomb threats
 
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youd need 9.6 IUs just to MATCH your Endogenous Production, and around 12 IUs to actually be having a benefit:lul::lul:
youre saying that as is youre getting shut down like on test
 
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stop making posts like this, these kids are afraid of a nonexistent side effect, let natural selection take its course. lower competition ts. also 2-3ius gh is the average amount, you sound like a retard.
 
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stop making posts like this, these kids are afraid of a nonexistent side effect, let natural selection take its course. lower competition ts. also 2-3ius gh is the average amount, you sound like a retard.
So i display my calculations and what i did to get the dosage i provided, and all u have to say is "2-3 IUs is average" expecting teenagers to produce the same amount as adults.

You sound like a currycel, continue pinning 3 IUs JFL. even more retarded than the "Pin 6 IU" goys.
 
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Will 12 IUs of Human Growth Hormone cause Acromegaly?

Multiple manlets on this Website will tell u that a Dosage like 10 to 15 IUs of HGH will cause Acromegaly, Few Examples pertain to;
acromegaly speedrun

Develop acromegaly
For tards that think HGH is a superpower

Now there are multiple Factors that come into play here when developing Acromegaly from Exogenous GH usage.

(If you do not wish to read all this, Then U can skip to reading only 3 Sections.)
1. Dosage of HGH
2. Elevated vs Pinning
3. Conclusion


#1. The Cycle's Duration
In multiple recorded Acromegaly cases, Acromegaly was caused through hightened GH Exposure for Years to Decades, And it mainly comes from Pituitary Adenoma's (Pituitary Gland Tumors). This is what we see in multiple Guinness World Record holder's for Height, They mainly have Pituitary Tumours causing Excessive Growth Hormone at an elevated rate, not in spikes (like what we see in Injections), And we particularly see in Patients with Acromegaly that this causes facial changes over the duration of Years to a Decade (and a Half in some cases). You would need to be pinning for years on end to even start having the facial aesthetics of Acromegaly.

View attachment 4501010View attachment 4501016

Sources that I used to deduce this:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12428067
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2563724
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/1472-6823-14-97
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19884662

#2. The Dosage of HGH
Now this is the factor that most of these people focus on, The amount of HGH being pinned during your cycle. Now if youre like the first dude that was mentioned above, youll basically be called a retard because your disregarding the Timing of the Injection, How long the Cycle will be, and at what age the Pinning is; and will just act like 12 IUs will make u True Ogre while disregarding Science because the person informing u has under 50 posts :)lul:)

- What should be the Dosage taken at Tanner IV?
There are multiple arguments on what dosage fits Adolescents in Pubertal Stage Tanner IV, However, The People arguing for a lower dosage being Endogenous Production are conflating many thing's into one. Adolescents produce around 1.9 to 2.2 Milligrams of HGH per day, meaning 5.7 IUS to 6.6 IUs Daily. Now if we were to inject Human Growth Hormone, BIoavailability would be a big marker in deciding wether we grow or not. Assuming Injections will be Intra-Musculature, The Bio-Availability is really weak around that area (Measured around 63%), meaning if u were producing 6 IUs endogenously, youd need 9.6 IUs just to MATCH your Endogenous Production, and around 12 IUs to actually be having a benefit:lul::lul:. Sub-Q has Better Bio-Availability, Ranging for 75 to 82%. Overall, you would need to be injecting over 9 IUs to actually make a difference in comparison to Endogenous (Natural) Production.
Studies I used to deduce this dosage:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14964431
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2016/019640s104lbl.pdf
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1730812

#3. Elevated Levels vs Pinning
Patients of Acromegaly and Cardiomegaly always have Elevated Levels of Human Growth Hormone and IGF1, Meaning no matter what, The HGH in their blood is always at a constant level, and higher than the Healthy Adult; This means that even IF their body wanted to lower the dosage, its efforts would be in vain. However, People who inject rHGH do not have continuously elevated GH levels in their bloodstream. After injection, The HGH will circulate around the blood, it peaks approximately 2–4 hours post-administration and is cleared from the blood within a few hours due to its short plasma half-life. The longer-lasting effects are mediated indirectly through IGF-1, which remains elevated well after circulating GH has declined; The only way u can get "acromegaly" via Exogenous HGH is by through Hightened IGF1 Levels which can cause mild acromegaloid features (not like the Ogre Features youre already informed about).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8949572


#4. Figures who are known to have injected large amounts of Growth Hormone
-Richi Piana 20 IUs ED of Serostim (Pharma) Human Growth Hormone.
Richi Piana has previously talked in multiple interviews about his previous cycles involving Growth Hormone, where he has started off with 8 IU's, and went up to 20 Ius daily, presumably for a few years. And he does not have a large jaw, he doesnt have a prominent nose, and he does not have Acromegaly.

-Ronnie Coleman; 9 IUs ED of Serostim.
Ronnie Coleman has talked about his experience with anabolics, while denying the use of Trenbolone, Synthol, and Insulin, admitted to using Testosterone and Human Growth Hormone under the supervision of a Doctor.

Conclusion:
No, Youre not gonna get Acromegaly if u pin HGH over 3 IUs, Your heart is not gonna buss when u decide to hop on a 3 week cycle of 6 IUs, and you aren't cutting your life span by 20 years if you go over 8 IU's. If you want to pin under 12 IUs then go for it, your money, not mine. But the entire propoganda behind "Over 10 IUs = Acromegaly, Heart attack, Cancer, and your family dying in a car crash" is frankly retarded.

Acromegaly is simply Elevated HGH Circulating in your blood for Years on end, Nobody here is going to be injecting 30 IUs of HGH for a decade. Hence Acromegaly isn't an issue to be concerned with when cycling/stacking Human Growth Hormone.
mirin, keep up the good work op
 
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Of course, it's possible. For acromegaly, it's not the IGF-1 level itself that's important, but the Z-index. And everyone reacts to growth hormone differently. Some people have IGF-1 levels of 600 from 2 units, others have IGF-1 levels of 200 from 18 units. I have IGF-1 levels of 700 from 6 units, and I need to lower the dosage because my Z-index has exceeded 3, and over the course of more than six months, this will inevitably lead to acromegalic changes
 
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youre saying that as is youre getting shut down like on test
hgh is known to shut down endogenous production through its respective feedback loop
 
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Of course, it's possible. For acromegaly, it's not the IGF-1 level itself that's important, but the Z-index. And everyone reacts to growth hormone differently. Some people have IGF-1 levels of 600 from 2 units, others have IGF-1 levels of 200 from 18 units. I have IGF-1 levels of 700 from 6 units, and I need to lower the dosage because my Z-index has exceeded 3, and over the course of more than six months, this will inevitably lead to acromegalic changes
mirin knowledge, did you read the post on meso or find this out yourself?
 
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mirin knowledge, did you read the post on meso or find this out yourself?
I learned about this at meso and conducted my own research, finding a case of acromegaly in a person with 2 IU HGH.
 
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I learned about this at meso and conducted my own research, finding a case of acromegaly in a person with 2 IU HGH.
and that's why the dosage is calculated based on z score and not iu/kg as it was before
 
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I learned about this at meso and conducted my own research, finding a case of acromegaly in a person with 2 IU HGH.
and that's why the dosage is calculated based on z score and not iu/kg as it was before
mirin knowledge brah
 
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So i display my calculations and what i did to get the dosage i provided, and all u have to say is "2-3 IUs is average" expecting teenagers to produce the same amount as adults.

You sound like a currycel, continue pinning 3 IUs JFL. even more retarded than the "Pin 6 IU" goys.
Teenagers produce more gh than adults, they still only pulse 2-3ius equivalent of gh daily. Even if they are higher in weight, the increase in gh has the same effects as 2-3ius in someone of lower weight. That’s just common sense. That’s why physicians prescribe 2-3ius daily.

I pin 20ius btw, don’t speak on what you don’t know.
 
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Teenagers produce more gh than adults, they still only pulse 2-3ius equivalent of gh daily. Even if they are higher in weight, the increase in gh has the same effects as 2-3ius in someone of lower weight. That’s just common sense. That’s why physicians prescribe 2-3ius daily.

I pin 20ius btw, don’t speak on what you don’t know.
Are u genuinely being serious, genuine question; cuz i cant tell larpslop from real autism.

I think its the latter because if teenagers produced "2-3 IUs" then nothing would encourage pinning 20 IUs and wasting that much money (even with a good source). Eliminating competition except you lower the curve :lul::lul:

Also physicians prescribe such a low dose because theyre treating GHD Patients, They aren't going for maximal secretion in normal pubertal Tanner IV Levels, theyre just going for whats safe physiologically. and we can see what effect this has because some GHD Patients havent reached Adult Predicted height after GH Therapy, even with tall parents. Why? Because GH Therapy doesnt give maximal secretion.
 
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Anyone listening to this is going to feel like shit and have insane bloating and fat ankles. Start low and stay low. You don't need to use a lot, use a reasonable amount over a long period of time.
 
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Are u genuinely being serious, genuine question; cuz i cant tell larpslop from real autism.

I think its the latter because if teenagers produced "2-3 IUs" then nothing would encourage pinning 20 IUs and wasting that much money (even with a good source). Eliminating competition except you lower the curve :lul::lul:

Also physicians prescribe such a low dose because theyre treating GHD Patients, They aren't going for maximal secretion in normal pubertal Tanner IV Levels, theyre just going for whats safe physiologically. and we can see what effect this has because some GHD Patients havent reached Adult Predicted height after GH Therapy, even with tall parents. Why? Because GH Therapy doesnt give maximal secretion.
are you retarded? i said 2-3ius is the average amount for gh therapy because thats the natural average amount for kids in puberty. thats why its called gh replacement not supraphysiologic gh therapy. also my 20ius from gh and secretagogues barely costs me $150 a month. i spend more on salmon monthly. you sound like a retard whos trying to sound like he has an ounce of a unique opinion/discovery
 
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are you retarded? i said 2-3ius is the average amount for gh therapy because thats the natural average amount for kids in puberty. thats why its called gh replacement not supraphysiologic gh therapy. also my 20ius from gh and secretagogues barely costs me $150 a month. i spend more on salmon monthly. you sound like a retard whos trying to sound like he has an ounce of a unique opinion/discovery
stupid nigger trying to uses excuses. No one does gh therapy no such shit as Gh replacement therapy.
 
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stupid nigger trying to uses excuses. No one does gh therapy no such shit as Gh replacement therapy.
At this point bro I was planning on writing an entire thread (again) on how these retards have neuro-damage from Estrogen Suppression but theyll just attack at every point and not attack the sources cited (or critique how i got my dosage results), so im not bothering anymore. inject your 3 IUs goyhim, do as u please :feelshah::feelshah:
 
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stupid nigger trying to uses excuses. No one does gh therapy no such shit as Gh replacement therapy.
you’re retarded too, gh therapy is a medical term, idek why you think it’s “not real”, what do you think the medical use for gh is then?
 
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you’re retarded too, gh therapy is a medical term, idek why you think it’s “not real”, what do you think the medical use for gh is then?
Oh yeah everyones retarded but u and your 20 IUs and "Eliminating comp brah :feelsuhh::feelsuhh::feelsuhh:"
 
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Oh yeah everyones retarded but u and your 20 IUs and "Eliminating comp brah :feelsuhh::feelsuhh::feelsuhh:"
It’s 25ius now get it right cuck
 
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you’re retarded too, gh therapy is a medical term, idek why you think it’s “not real”, what do you think the medical use for gh is then?
nigga you said gh replacement therapy, no such shit. Why use 2-3 iu when you can use 9iu. And no way you used 20 IU gh you are like the worst larper knnown to mankind:lul:
 
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At this point bro I was planning on writing an entire thread (again) on how these retards have neuro-damage from Estrogen Suppression but theyll just attack at every point and not attack the sources cited (or critique how i got my dosage results), so im not bothering anymore. inject your 3 IUs goyhim, do as u please :feelshah::feelshah:
Ah hell nah dude those are the worst people, mfs recommended 12.5mg of aromasin daily for a 13 year old
 
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Will 12 IUs of Human Growth Hormone cause Acromegaly?

Multiple manlets on this Website will tell u that a Dosage like 10 to 15 IUs of HGH will cause Acromegaly, Few Examples pertain to;
acromegaly speedrun

Develop acromegaly
For tards that think HGH is a superpower

Now there are multiple Factors that come into play here when developing Acromegaly from Exogenous GH usage.

(If you do not wish to read all this, Then U can skip to reading only 3 Sections.)
1. Dosage of HGH
2. Elevated vs Pinning
3. Conclusion


#1. The Cycle's Duration
In multiple recorded Acromegaly cases, Acromegaly was caused through hightened GH Exposure for Years to Decades, And it mainly comes from Pituitary Adenoma's (Pituitary Gland Tumors). This is what we see in multiple Guinness World Record holder's for Height, They mainly have Pituitary Tumours causing Excessive Growth Hormone at an elevated rate, not in spikes (like what we see in Injections), And we particularly see in Patients with Acromegaly that this causes facial changes over the duration of Years to a Decade (and a Half in some cases). You would need to be pinning for years on end to even start having the facial aesthetics of Acromegaly.

View attachment 4501010View attachment 4501016

Sources that I used to deduce this:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12428067
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2563724
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/1472-6823-14-97
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19884662

#2. The Dosage of HGH
Now this is the factor that most of these people focus on, The amount of HGH being pinned during your cycle. Now if youre like the first dude that was mentioned above, youll basically be called a retard because your disregarding the Timing of the Injection, How long the Cycle will be, and at what age the Pinning is; and will just act like 12 IUs will make u True Ogre while disregarding Science because the person informing u has under 50 posts :)lul:)

- What should be the Dosage taken at Tanner IV?
There are multiple arguments on what dosage fits Adolescents in Pubertal Stage Tanner IV, However, The People arguing for a lower dosage being Endogenous Production are conflating many thing's into one. Adolescents produce around 1.9 to 2.2 Milligrams of HGH per day, meaning 5.7 IUS to 6.6 IUs Daily. Now if we were to inject Human Growth Hormone, BIoavailability would be a big marker in deciding wether we grow or not. Assuming Injections will be Intra-Musculature, The Bio-Availability is really weak around that area (Measured around 63%), meaning if u were producing 6 IUs endogenously, youd need 9.6 IUs just to MATCH your Endogenous Production, and around 12 IUs to actually be having a benefit:lul::lul:. Sub-Q has Better Bio-Availability, Ranging for 75 to 82%. Overall, you would need to be injecting over 9 IUs to actually make a difference in comparison to Endogenous (Natural) Production.
Studies I used to deduce this dosage:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14964431
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2016/019640s104lbl.pdf
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1730812

#3. Elevated Levels vs Pinning
Patients of Acromegaly and Cardiomegaly always have Elevated Levels of Human Growth Hormone and IGF1, Meaning no matter what, The HGH in their blood is always at a constant level, and higher than the Healthy Adult; This means that even IF their body wanted to lower the dosage, its efforts would be in vain. However, People who inject rHGH do not have continuously elevated GH levels in their bloodstream. After injection, The HGH will circulate around the blood, it peaks approximately 2–4 hours post-administration and is cleared from the blood within a few hours due to its short plasma half-life. The longer-lasting effects are mediated indirectly through IGF-1, which remains elevated well after circulating GH has declined; The only way u can get "acromegaly" via Exogenous HGH is by through Hightened IGF1 Levels which can cause mild acromegaloid features (not like the Ogre Features youre already informed about).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8949572


#4. Figures who are known to have injected large amounts of Growth Hormone
-Richi Piana 20 IUs ED of Serostim (Pharma) Human Growth Hormone.
Richi Piana has previously talked in multiple interviews about his previous cycles involving Growth Hormone, where he has started off with 8 IU's, and went up to 20 Ius daily, presumably for a few years. And he does not have a large jaw, he doesnt have a prominent nose, and he does not have Acromegaly.

-Ronnie Coleman; 9 IUs ED of Serostim.
Ronnie Coleman has talked about his experience with anabolics, while denying the use of Trenbolone, Synthol, and Insulin, admitted to using Testosterone and Human Growth Hormone under the supervision of a Doctor.

Conclusion:
No, Youre not gonna get Acromegaly if u pin HGH over 3 IUs, Your heart is not gonna buss when u decide to hop on a 3 week cycle of 6 IUs, and you aren't cutting your life span by 20 years if you go over 8 IU's. If you want to pin under 12 IUs then go for it, your money, not mine. But the entire propoganda behind "Over 10 IUs = Acromegaly, Heart attack, Cancer, and your family dying in a car crash" is frankly retarded.

Acromegaly is simply Elevated HGH Circulating in your blood for Years on end, Nobody here is going to be injecting 30 IUs of HGH for a decade. Hence Acromegaly isn't an issue to be concerned with when cycling/stacking Human Growth Hormone.
what fuck is this post jfl retard
 
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Of course, it's possible. For acromegaly, it's not the IGF-1 level itself that's important, but the Z-index. And everyone reacts to growth hormone differently. Some people have IGF-1 levels of 600 from 2 units, others have IGF-1 levels of 200 from 18 units. I have IGF-1 levels of 700 from 6 units, and I need to lower the dosage because my Z-index has exceeded 3, and over the course of more than six months, this will inevitably lead to acromegalic changes
I have 520ng/dl from 4units and Z-index is IFGBP3?
 
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I have 520ng/dl from 4units and Z-index is IFGBP3?
Its calculated based on age. your level of 520 is completely normal
 
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nigga you said gh replacement therapy, no such shit. Why use 2-3 iu when you can use 9iu. And no way you used 20 IU gh you are like the worst larper knnown to mankind:lul:
You’re a mega retard
 
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Not yet, but soon I will be. Just need my stack to stop getting hoarded at customs like the past 3 times :feelswhy:
you plan on doing 12 iu or more? and how long do you plan on doing this? Im assuming till growth plates close
 
Of course, it's possible. For acromegaly, it's not the IGF-1 level itself that's important, but the Z-index. And everyone reacts to growth hormone differently. Some people have IGF-1 levels of 600 from 2 units, others have IGF-1 levels of 200 from 18 units. I have IGF-1 levels of 700 from 6 units, and I need to lower the dosage because my Z-index has exceeded 3, and over the course of more than six months, this will inevitably lead to acromegalic changes
Whats the highest range to keep your Z index in?
 
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Will 12 IUs of Human Growth Hormone cause Acromegaly?

Multiple manlets on this Website will tell u that a Dosage like 10 to 15 IUs of HGH will cause Acromegaly, Few Examples pertain to;
acromegaly speedrun

Develop acromegaly
For tards that think HGH is a superpower

Now there are multiple Factors that come into play here when developing Acromegaly from Exogenous GH usage.

(If you do not wish to read all this, Then U can skip to reading only 3 Sections.)
1. Dosage of HGH
2. Elevated vs Pinning
3. Conclusion


#1. The Cycle's Duration
In multiple recorded Acromegaly cases, Acromegaly was caused through hightened GH Exposure for Years to Decades, And it mainly comes from Pituitary Adenoma's (Pituitary Gland Tumors). This is what we see in multiple Guinness World Record holder's for Height, They mainly have Pituitary Tumours causing Excessive Growth Hormone at an elevated rate, not in spikes (like what we see in Injections), And we particularly see in Patients with Acromegaly that this causes facial changes over the duration of Years to a Decade (and a Half in some cases). You would need to be pinning for years on end to even start having the facial aesthetics of Acromegaly.

View attachment 4501010View attachment 4501016

Sources that I used to deduce this:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12428067
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2563724
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/1472-6823-14-97
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19884662

#2. The Dosage of HGH
Now this is the factor that most of these people focus on, The amount of HGH being pinned during your cycle. Now if youre like the first dude that was mentioned above, youll basically be called a retard because your disregarding the Timing of the Injection, How long the Cycle will be, and at what age the Pinning is; and will just act like 12 IUs will make u True Ogre while disregarding Science because the person informing u has under 50 posts :)lul:)

- What should be the Dosage taken at Tanner IV?
There are multiple arguments on what dosage fits Adolescents in Pubertal Stage Tanner IV, However, The People arguing for a lower dosage being Endogenous Production are conflating many thing's into one. Adolescents produce around 1.9 to 2.2 Milligrams of HGH per day, meaning 5.7 IUS to 6.6 IUs Daily. Now if we were to inject Human Growth Hormone, BIoavailability would be a big marker in deciding wether we grow or not. Assuming Injections will be Intra-Musculature, The Bio-Availability is really weak around that area (Measured around 63%), meaning if u were producing 6 IUs endogenously, youd need 9.6 IUs just to MATCH your Endogenous Production, and around 12 IUs to actually be having a benefit:lul::lul:. Sub-Q has Better Bio-Availability, Ranging for 75 to 82%. Overall, you would need to be injecting over 9 IUs to actually make a difference in comparison to Endogenous (Natural) Production.
Studies I used to deduce this dosage:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14964431
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2016/019640s104lbl.pdf
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1730812

#3. Elevated Levels vs Pinning
Patients of Acromegaly and Cardiomegaly always have Elevated Levels of Human Growth Hormone and IGF1, Meaning no matter what, The HGH in their blood is always at a constant level, and higher than the Healthy Adult; This means that even IF their body wanted to lower the dosage, its efforts would be in vain. However, People who inject rHGH do not have continuously elevated GH levels in their bloodstream. After injection, The HGH will circulate around the blood, it peaks approximately 2–4 hours post-administration and is cleared from the blood within a few hours due to its short plasma half-life. The longer-lasting effects are mediated indirectly through IGF-1, which remains elevated well after circulating GH has declined; The only way u can get "acromegaly" via Exogenous HGH is by through Hightened IGF1 Levels which can cause mild acromegaloid features (not like the Ogre Features youre already informed about).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8949572


#4. Figures who are known to have injected large amounts of Growth Hormone
-Richi Piana 20 IUs ED of Serostim (Pharma) Human Growth Hormone.
Richi Piana has previously talked in multiple interviews about his previous cycles involving Growth Hormone, where he has started off with 8 IU's, and went up to 20 Ius daily, presumably for a few years. And he does not have a large jaw, he doesnt have a prominent nose, and he does not have Acromegaly.

-Ronnie Coleman; 9 IUs ED of Serostim.
Ronnie Coleman has talked about his experience with anabolics, while denying the use of Trenbolone, Synthol, and Insulin, admitted to using Testosterone and Human Growth Hormone under the supervision of a Doctor.

Conclusion:
No, Youre not gonna get Acromegaly if u pin HGH over 3 IUs, Your heart is not gonna buss when u decide to hop on a 3 week cycle of 6 IUs, and you aren't cutting your life span by 20 years if you go over 8 IU's. If you want to pin under 12 IUs then go for it, your money, not mine. But the entire propoganda behind "Over 10 IUs = Acromegaly, Heart attack, Cancer, and your family dying in a car crash" is frankly retarded.

Acromegaly is simply Elevated HGH Circulating in your blood for Years on end, Nobody here is going to be injecting 30 IUs of HGH for a decade. Hence Acromegaly isn't an issue to be concerned with when cycling/stacking Human Growth Hormone.
Hope you get acromegaly and your heart fails.
 
Whats the highest range to keep your Z index in?
up to +3. But most doctors recommend up to +2 although I have not found a single case of acromegaly up to +3 and there are plenty of them with 3+
 
Will 12 IUs of Human Growth Hormone cause Acromegaly?

Multiple manlets on this Website will tell u that a Dosage like 10 to 15 IUs of HGH will cause Acromegaly, Few Examples pertain to;
acromegaly speedrun

Develop acromegaly
For tards that think HGH is a superpower

Now there are multiple Factors that come into play here when developing Acromegaly from Exogenous GH usage.

(If you do not wish to read all this, Then U can skip to reading only 3 Sections.)
1. Dosage of HGH
2. Elevated vs Pinning
3. Conclusion


#1. The Cycle's Duration
In multiple recorded Acromegaly cases, Acromegaly was caused through hightened GH Exposure for Years to Decades, And it mainly comes from Pituitary Adenoma's (Pituitary Gland Tumors). This is what we see in multiple Guinness World Record holder's for Height, They mainly have Pituitary Tumours causing Excessive Growth Hormone at an elevated rate, not in spikes (like what we see in Injections), And we particularly see in Patients with Acromegaly that this causes facial changes over the duration of Years to a Decade (and a Half in some cases). You would need to be pinning for years on end to even start having the facial aesthetics of Acromegaly.

View attachment 4501010View attachment 4501016

Sources that I used to deduce this:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12428067
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2563724
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/1472-6823-14-97
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19884662

#2. The Dosage of HGH
Now this is the factor that most of these people focus on, The amount of HGH being pinned during your cycle. Now if youre like the first dude that was mentioned above, youll basically be called a retard because your disregarding the Timing of the Injection, How long the Cycle will be, and at what age the Pinning is; and will just act like 12 IUs will make u True Ogre while disregarding Science because the person informing u has under 50 posts :)lul:)

- What should be the Dosage taken at Tanner IV?
There are multiple arguments on what dosage fits Adolescents in Pubertal Stage Tanner IV, However, The People arguing for a lower dosage being Endogenous Production are conflating many thing's into one. Adolescents produce around 1.9 to 2.2 Milligrams of HGH per day, meaning 5.7 IUS to 6.6 IUs Daily. Now if we were to inject Human Growth Hormone, BIoavailability would be a big marker in deciding wether we grow or not. Assuming Injections will be Intra-Musculature, The Bio-Availability is really weak around that area (Measured around 63%), meaning if u were producing 6 IUs endogenously, youd need 9.6 IUs just to MATCH your Endogenous Production, and around 12 IUs to actually be having a benefit:lul::lul:. Sub-Q has Better Bio-Availability, Ranging for 75 to 82%. Overall, you would need to be injecting over 9 IUs to actually make a difference in comparison to Endogenous (Natural) Production.
Studies I used to deduce this dosage:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14964431
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2016/019640s104lbl.pdf
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1730812

#3. Elevated Levels vs Pinning
Patients of Acromegaly and Cardiomegaly always have Elevated Levels of Human Growth Hormone and IGF1, Meaning no matter what, The HGH in their blood is always at a constant level, and higher than the Healthy Adult; This means that even IF their body wanted to lower the dosage, its efforts would be in vain. However, People who inject rHGH do not have continuously elevated GH levels in their bloodstream. After injection, The HGH will circulate around the blood, it peaks approximately 2–4 hours post-administration and is cleared from the blood within a few hours due to its short plasma half-life. The longer-lasting effects are mediated indirectly through IGF-1, which remains elevated well after circulating GH has declined; The only way u can get "acromegaly" via Exogenous HGH is by through Hightened IGF1 Levels which can cause mild acromegaloid features (not like the Ogre Features youre already informed about).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8949572


#4. Figures who are known to have injected large amounts of Growth Hormone
-Richi Piana 20 IUs ED of Serostim (Pharma) Human Growth Hormone.
Richi Piana has previously talked in multiple interviews about his previous cycles involving Growth Hormone, where he has started off with 8 IU's, and went up to 20 Ius daily, presumably for a few years. And he does not have a large jaw, he doesnt have a prominent nose, and he does not have Acromegaly.

-Ronnie Coleman; 9 IUs ED of Serostim.
Ronnie Coleman has talked about his experience with anabolics, while denying the use of Trenbolone, Synthol, and Insulin, admitted to using Testosterone and Human Growth Hormone under the supervision of a Doctor.

Conclusion:
No, Youre not gonna get Acromegaly if u pin HGH over 3 IUs, Your heart is not gonna buss when u decide to hop on a 3 week cycle of 6 IUs, and you aren't cutting your life span by 20 years if you go over 8 IU's. If you want to pin under 12 IUs then go for it, your money, not mine. But the entire propoganda behind "Over 10 IUs = Acromegaly, Heart attack, Cancer, and your family dying in a car crash" is frankly retarded.

Acromegaly is simply Elevated HGH Circulating in your blood for Years on end, Nobody here is going to be injecting 30 IUs of HGH for a decade. Hence Acromegaly isn't an issue to be concerned with when cycling/stacking Human Growth Hormone.
andrey smaev
 
up to +3. But most doctors recommend up to +2 although I have not found a single case of acromegaly up to +3 and there are plenty of them with 3+
Gotcha, I think ill aim for 3+ what do you think the dosage would be? Or does it really just vary per person?
 
Gotcha, I think ill aim for 3+ what do you think the dosage would be? Or does it really just vary per person?
I mean keep igf1 at +3 for years. Ofc you can also go up to +5 during a cycle without any consequences. The dosage is very individual personally I had +3.5 at 6 iu
 
I mean keep igf1 at +3 for years. Ofc you can also go up to +5 during a cycle without any consequences. The dosage is very individual personally I had +3.5 at 6 iu
during cycles for muscler growth your saying?
 
you plan on doing 12 iu or more? and how long do you plan on doing this? Im assuming till growth plates close
U can do 15 IUs if u want, I personally dont have the funds to pin 15 daily so ill just be pinning 12 for a few months.
 
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