Will Approach 10,000 Foids in 2025

[Shahnameh]

The only way to ascend as an incel is to cold approach, Volume means more opportunities.

I will not settle for low quality women, I will aproach 10,000 girls until i find at least one Big Titty blue eyed black haired Jewish girl who likes me.

Dating apps are a waste of time
Clubs are sausage fests
I have no social circle
My family wont find me a girl

Cold approach is my only hope

 

[New Poster]

As a warmup

 

[spongebob]

Keep me updated bro

 

[Shahnameh]

Keep me updated bro

There will be many tales from the Sydney Slums in 2025, trust me

 

[heightmaxxing]

Just get rejected 30 times a day bro. Works for me

 

[Angutoid]

Good luck mate

 

[Deleted member 84661]

The only way to ascend as an incel is to cold approach, Volume means more opportunities.

I will not settle for low quality women, I will aproach 10,000 girls until i find at least one Big Titty blue eyed black haired Jewish girl who likes me.

Dating apps are a waste of time
Clubs are sausage fests
I have no social circle
My family wont find me a girl

Cold approach is my only hope

The first 10000 is just warm up boyo, never give up

 

[Shahnameh]

Just get rejected 30 times a day bro. Works for me

How else do u expect to get a gf? She won't fall from the sky

The first 10000 is just warm up boyo, never give up

Never Get Up

 

[psychomandible]

28 approaches a day

 

[truecelitover]

How else do u expect to get a gf? She won't fall from the sky



Never Get Up

Bro… if you gotta try that hard just accept defeat already. Lay in bed and rot. Stop being so delulu

 

[134applesauce456]

 

[curryascenderr]

Mirin. Wonder after the first few rejections if you will have the courage to carry on tho. Mirin if you do even approach

 

[Shahnameh]

Bro… if you gotta try that hard just accept defeat already. Lay in bed and rot. Stop being so delulu

Nothing Good in Life comes easy, nobody will come to save you and you can't expect things to be easily handed to you in life.

Yes we have to work harder for lower quality women due to hoeflation, our ancestors didn't need to do this yes.

Giving up and rotting is not the answer.

28 approaches a day

This is honestly not bad and not too hard to do

Mirin. Wonder after the first few rejections if you will have the courage to carry on tho. Mirin if you do even approach

I'm motivated to provide content and funny rejection stories for the forum.

 

[psychomandible]

This is honestly not bad and not too hard to do

Ye I expected much more but it seems easily achievable

 

[curryascenderr]

I'm motivated to provide content and funny rejection stories for the forum.

What’s your looks level? You will have to be a minimum high LTN to have any success imo. Also are you going to be using drugs like pregab?

 

[Shahnameh]

What’s your looks level? You will have to be a minimum high LTN to have any success imo. Also are you going to be using drugs like pregab?

I have A LOT to improve from Clothing style/fashion to Hair and Body Fat percentage

I need to hit the gym and invest in some good lifts

Also need to improve pisture and get better sleep to get rid of my dark circles

I've got a very long way to go

 

[Mosh12]

Make it 36500

 

[chadcel;]

Approach 6 million jewish girls in 5 years

 

[Deleted member 15778]

The only way to ascend as an incel is to cold approach, Volume means more opportunities.

I will not settle for low quality women, I will aproach 10,000 girls until i find at least one Big Titty blue eyed black haired Jewish girl who likes me.

Dating apps are a waste of time
Clubs are sausage fests
I have no social circle
My family wont find me a girl

Cold approach is my only hope

You wouldn't be the first guy to approach that many women.

But that's 28 girls a day, assuming you don't re-approach the same girl multiple times.

The issue you may run into is population density. Most of the guys who have more than ten thousand approaches, are "pickup coaches" who bounce from city to city, and they don't hit 10,000 for years.

Otherwise you have to make sure you live in one of the cities with the highest population density. You won't hit 28 approaches consistently in most cities because the population density isn't high enough even if you approach for five hours a day.

 

[Deleted member 114895]

this will crush your soul/sanity,your pretty much addresing women as superiour by approaching them,find hobbies and try and meet then naturally which is the only way that works or atleast put up with dating apps because its still better then cold approaching which is the worst idea ever in 2024,i dont even see girls getting approached irl

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

im 27 yo kissless virgin and never asked a female out before

 

[chudlite]

The only way to ascend as an incel is to cold approach, Volume means more opportunities.

I will not settle for low quality women, I will aproach 10,000 girls until i find at least one Big Titty blue eyed black haired Jewish girl who likes me.

Dating apps are a waste of time
Clubs are sausage fests
I have no social circle
My family wont find me a girl

Cold approach is my only hope

lets lock in together i’ll approach 2500
@Suns9999 can use his butthole licking rizz and approach 5000

you do 2500

 

[Society hates me]

The only way to ascend as an incel is to cold approach, Volume means more opportunities.

I will not settle for low quality women, I will aproach 10,000 girls until i find at least one Big Titty blue eyed black haired Jewish girl who likes me.

Dating apps are a waste of time
Clubs are sausage fests
I have no social circle
My family wont find me a girl

Cold approach is my only hope

Be careful bro. One of those foids is bound to accuse you of harassment. This is why I don’t approach foids anymore because I don’t want the embarrassment or the danger of being accused of sexual harassment

 

[chudlite]

Approach 6 million jewish girls in 5 years

271k is all i can do

 

[Shahnameh]

find hobbies and try and meet then naturally

Reddit tier advice

dating apps because its still better then cold approaching

Leave and never post in one of my threads again

Be careful bro. One of those foids is bound to accuse you of harassment. This is why I don’t approach foids anymore because I don’t want the embarrassment or the danger of being accused of sexual harassment

Are u indian?

 

[Shahnameh]

You wouldn't be the first guy to approach that many women.

But that's 28 girls a day, assuming you don't re-approach the same girl multiple times.

The issue you may run into is population density. Most of the guys who have more than ten thousand approaches, are "pickup coaches" who bounce from city to city, and they don't hit 10,000 for years.

Otherwise you have to make sure you live in one of the cities with the highest population density. You won't hit 28 approaches consistently in most cities because the population density isn't high enough even if you approach for five hours a day.

Honestly i would probably find a girl by approach 200 or 300 anyways, 10,000 is just a meme and Sydney does not have the population for it i would need to do this in somewhere like Tokyo.

I still want to approach a lot of girls though mainly to kill my inhibitions and destroy my approach anxiety through exposure therapy

im 27 yo kissless virgin and never asked a female out before

Throw your self into really awkward situations.
You will win after a while.
People can say "get over it" but thats just because they haven't been there before, It can be hard but the more awkward and anxiety provoking situations you throw your self into the better of you will be. It's called adapting, you can't adapt by reading some self help **** or looking in the mirror telling your self you have confidence, you just have to do it. My advice might be the most confronting, but it is the only thing I have seen work, for my self and observing others. Just do it. Nike.

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

Throw your self into really awkward situations.
You will win after a while.
People can say "get over it" but thats just because they haven't been there before, It can be hard but the more awkward and anxiety provoking situations you throw your self into the better of you will be. It's called adapting, you can't adapt by reading some self help **** or looking in the mirror telling your self you have confidence, you just have to do it. My advice might be the most confronting, but it is the only thing I have seen work, for my self and observing others. Just do it. Nike.

the issue is that i am 27 yo kissless virgin living with my mother. where do i go to meet females? i have no hobbies and dont do anything.
i think i will wait until i get my surgeries (but ive been saying this for 10 years, since the 2016 lookism era, and have never gotten any surgeries). then ill geomax to japan, vietnam, china or poland to find my waifu and start a family.

 

[Shahnameh]

the issue is that i am 27 yo kissless virgin living with my mother. where do i go to meet females? i have no hobbies and dont do anything.
i think i will wait until i get my surgeries (but ive been saying this for 10 years and have never gotten any surgeries). then ill geomax to japan, vietnam, china or poland to find my waifu.

If ur White, go to South East Asia or Brazil.

If ur Ethnic try Morroco

If ur black go to Africa

 

[alriodai]

As a warmup

OG user, mirin, how the fuck you're still here?

 

[Willmogulater]

Only approach if ur tall manlets get sexual harrasment case

 

[Shahnameh]

Only approach if ur tall manlets get sexual harrasment case

I'm 5'3 wtf do u want me to do?

OG user, mirin, how the fuck you're still here?

He stays for quality threads like this

 

[Willmogulater]

I'm 5'3 wtf do u want me to do?



He stays for quality threads like this

Ur not 5'3

 

[Cyrus]

i cold approached a 12 yo girl once and got rejected

 

[Shahnameh]

i cold approached a 12 yo girl once and got rejected

Are you Arabic or something JFL

 

[Cyrus]

Are you Arabic or something JFL

no i didnt know she was 12

 

[Deleted member 71093]

I have A LOT to improve from Clothing style/fashion to Hair and Body Fat percentage

I need to hit the gym and invest in some good lifts

Also need to improve pisture and get better sleep to get rid of my dark circles

I've got a very long way to go

Same

 

[Deleted member 15778]

Honestly i would probably find a girl by approach 200 or 300 anyways,

As some one who's done over a hundred approaches when I was tall, young, fit, with good skin and hair, in a pre-tinder world, in an area with lots of Asian women as a tall white guy, but still failed to get even a single number, good luck.

If you don't already get slays from tinder, then getting one girlfriend out of 300 is going to be far more difficult than you think.

As some one who's put in some hours of practice, and read and watched pretty much every book and video on pickup strategies, and watched friends in person that are good pickup girls, I'm going to offer you some advice.

1. Be Looksmaxed before doing day game. This means:

1. Single digit bodyfat, or at least bellow 15% with no belly that sticks out
2. Good muscle mass - natty is fine for some girls
3. Thick hair or frauding of thick hair
4. Good clean skin
5. No eye bags or wrinkles (surgery or skin care to get rid of)
6. Completed Surgeries done if you have a big facial flaw
7. Dental work if your teeth are unclean or crooked
8. Teeth whitening stripes if your teeth are not already very white
9. Eye surgery or contacts if you don't have perfect vision
10. Clean clothes that have no stains, fit well, and don't make you look try hard or like a pickup artist. Basically whatever looks good on you.
11. If looksmaxing is going to take you more than a year and you have time to practice game now, then sure start practicing game now to at least work on your game while you looksmax but don't expect girlfriends to come of it.
    
    I was part of a group of guys who would do pickup everyday. The ONLY guys that got any results from it were very good looking and met all of the above standards. And this was pre-tinder. They also had developed skill through practice.

2. Have a full routine stack that you've practiced and have down smooth that includes enough routines to pickup the girl, and get through your first date.

Unless you are already very good at pickup up women, you are going to need training wheels. Otherwise what spews from your mouth won't get good enough to seduce the girl.

You may have social skills now, but you likely don't have the SPECIFIC social skills of:

• Stopping a Girl
• Getting her to the hook point where she's ready to verbally respond. (Takes longer than you'd expect and is harder, even if you're attractive)
• Transitioning into getting to know her if you opened indirect, without her bailing and saying she's not interested. Direct game is easier, but requires a higher level of looks to pull off.
• Having enough conversation topics and ability to go through them with a stranger who's not really contributing to the conversation. Even when you find the 1 in a 100 girls that like you, they're not going to have the social skills to keep the conversation going, you're going to need routines for that. Once they're comfortable with you, maybe on the 2nd date it will be easier.
• Getting her to want to come out with you
• Getting her aroused on the date

You may be funny and charismatic, and likable, and good at making people comfortable, but you'll still have to learn these skills in addition. Because the girl won't be contributing to the conversation in any meaningful way in the beginning, and she'll be expecting you to do all the work (When you're lucky enough to get a girl that doesn't immediately walk away), you've going to have to have these routines so well practiced that you can perform them smoothly with confidence even under pressure.

When start approaching, what you'll be doing is learning to tailor your stories and routines to different personalities of girls (assuming you meet their looks threshold).

You may be thinking "I don't need to do all of that to get one girlfriend, I'll just approach ten thousand women until I get a girlfriend." What I'm telling you, is that it doesn't matter how many girls you approach if you don't do the above you won't get any girls. The exception being, you could be a little fat and still get some girls, and some girls are ok with bald guys as long as they're clean shaven, but all of the other things including routines is a requirement for day game. No girl is going to put in the work.

And the last thing is mindset. Even if you do these steps, after the first few hundred rejections, you're going to feel like you're doing something wrong. There's two things you need to keep top of your mind:

• It's partly a numbers game. Even with perfect looks and skill, you will at most get 10% of girls. When they're being honest, that's the close rate for extremely good looking guys, who are also extremely charismatic in a City like New York.
  
  For a tall LTN with extremely good game, after 10+ years of at least 3 hours of practice a day, the close rate is about 1 in 100 for dates and 1 in 1000 for lays, and they only get to that close rate after about 10,000 approaches. This is not a joke, which is why I said to looksmax before you begin, unless you are ok with getting rejected for the next ten years to learn skill that will only get you 1 in 1000 girls, just so you can get one girlfriend.
• You won't get better without focused practice. There are countless incels who have been doing game for years, sometimes as long as a decade without a single girlfriend or lay from it.
  
  This means you can't just mindlessly practice and expect to keep improving. You have to be constantly testing different routines and variations of routines, looking for patterns, and trying to figure out how to improve in different areas of your game.
  
  All this to get one girlfriend? Yes, you will get 100% rejection rate without this unless you are legit Chad, and if you were a legit Chad you could easily get a girlfriend from dating apps in a day. You wouldn't even need to leave your home.
  
  Again, not an exaggeration. I've lived it. I've watched many other men with different looks levels run game in real life (No paid models, no edited videos as are very common online). You won't believe me until you've experienced it for yourself.
• Day game is extremely time consuming. Expect this to be a multi-year long thing before you get a girlfriend.
• NEVER touch a girl during day game, never threaten a girl, never follow a girl once she starts to walk away. Any of that shit will get you arrested. Do not compliment a girl's looks if she's under age, there's a former day gamer rotting in prison for that as well. The ONLY form of touching you should do before the first date is a hand shake, unless you want to wind up in jail.
• Expect to get punched by dude's sometimes. It just happens during day game, even if you're a nice guy. Some dudes, a very low percentage but some, will see you talking to their girlfriend, wife, or sister and go ape shit. This is why some day gamers learn martial arts, but most accept getting punched every once an da while as part of the territory. Expect 1 punch in every 3,000 approaches if you're a nice guy.

10,000 is just a meme and Sydney does not have the population for it i would need to do this in somewhere like Tokyo.

I still want to approach a lot of girls though mainly to kill my inhibitions and destroy my approach anxiety through exposure therapy

pm me and let me know how it goes.

Throw your self into really awkward situations.
You will win after a while.
People can say "get over it" but thats just because they haven't been there before, It can be hard but the more awkward and anxiety provoking situations you throw your self into the better of you will be.

It's called adapting, you can't adapt by reading some self help **** or looking in the mirror telling your self you have confidence, you just have to do it. My advice might be the most confronting, but it is the only thing I have seen work, for my self and observing others. Just do it. Nike.

 

[New Poster]

OG user, mirin, how the fuck you're still here?

I still have a phone and free time

 

[Matthias8272]

If ur White, go to South East Asia or Brazil.

If ur Ethnic try Morroco

If ur black go to Africa

So you think any ethnic group could get an LTR in Morroco?

 

[Shahnameh]

As some one who's done over a hundred approaches when I was tall, young, fit, with good skin and hair, in a pre-tinder world, in an area with lots of Asian women as a tall white guy, but still failed to get even a single number, good luck.

If you don't already get slays from tinder, then getting one girlfriend out of 300 is going to be far more difficult than you think.

As some one who's put in some hours of practice, and read and watched pretty much every book and video on pickup strategies, and watched friends in person that are good pickup girls, I'm going to offer you some advice.

1. Be Looksmaxed before doing day game. This means:

1. Single digit bodyfat, or at least bellow 15% with no belly that sticks out
2. Good muscle mass - natty is fine for some girls
3. Thick hair or frauding of thick hair
4. Good clean skin
5. No eye bags or wrinkles (surgery or skin care to get rid of)
6. Completed Surgeries done if you have a big facial flaw
7. Dental work if your teeth are unclean or crooked
8. Teeth whitening stripes if your teeth are not already very white
9. Eye surgery or contacts if you don't have perfect vision
10. Clean clothes that have no stains, fit well, and don't make you look try hard or like a pickup artist. Basically whatever looks good on you.
11. If looksmaxing is going to take you more than a year and you have time to practice game now, then sure start practicing game now to at least work on your game while you looksmax but don't expect girlfriends to come of it.
    
    I was part of a group of guys who would do pickup everyday. The ONLY guys that got any results from it were very good looking and met all of the above standards. And this was pre-tinder. They also had developed skill through practice.

2. Have a full routine stack that you've practiced and have down smooth that includes enough routines to pickup the girl, and get through your first date.

Unless you are already very good at pickup up women, you are going to need training wheels. Otherwise what spews from your mouth won't get good enough to seduce the girl.

You may have social skills now, but you likely don't have the SPECIFIC social skills of:

• Stopping a Girl
• Getting her to the hook point where she's ready to verbally respond. (Takes longer than you'd expect and is harder, even if you're attractive)
• Transitioning into getting to know her if you opened indirect, without her bailing and saying she's not interested. Direct game is easier, but requires a higher level of looks to pull off.
• Having enough conversation topics and ability to go through them with a stranger who's not really contributing to the conversation. Even when you find the 1 in a 100 girls that like you, they're not going to have the social skills to keep the conversation going, you're going to need routines for that. Once they're comfortable with you, maybe on the 2nd date it will be easier.
• Getting her to want to come out with you
• Getting her aroused on the date

You may be funny and charismatic, and likable, and good at making people comfortable, but you'll still have to learn these skills in addition. Because the girl won't be contributing to the conversation in any meaningful way in the beginning, and she'll be expecting you to do all the work (When you're lucky enough to get a girl that doesn't immediately walk away), you've going to have to have these routines so well practiced that you can perform them smoothly with confidence even under pressure.

When start approaching, what you'll be doing is learning to tailor your stories and routines to different personalities of girls (assuming you meet their looks threshold).

You may be thinking "I don't need to do all of that to get one girlfriend, I'll just approach ten thousand women until I get a girlfriend." What I'm telling you, is that it doesn't matter how many girls you approach if you don't do the above you won't get any girls. The exception being, you could be a little fat and still get some girls, and some girls are ok with bald guys as long as they're clean shaven, but all of the other things including routines is a requirement for day game. No girl is going to put in the work.

And the last thing is mindset. Even if you do these steps, after the first few hundred rejections, you're going to feel like you're doing something wrong. There's two things you need to keep top of your mind:

• It's partly a numbers game. Even with perfect looks and skill, you will at most get 10% of girls. When they're being honest, that's the close rate for extremely good looking guys, who are also extremely charismatic in a City like New York.
  
  For a tall LTN with extremely good game, after 10+ years of at least 3 hours of practice a day, the close rate is about 1 in 100 for dates and 1 in 1000 for lays, and they only get to that close rate after about 10,000 approaches. This is not a joke, which is why I said to looksmax before you begin, unless you are ok with getting rejected for the next ten years to learn skill that will only get you 1 in 1000 girls, just so you can get one girlfriend.
• You won't get better without focused practice. There are countless incels who have been doing game for years, sometimes as long as a decade without a single girlfriend or lay from it.
  
  This means you can't just mindlessly practice and expect to keep improving. You have to be constantly testing different routines and variations of routines, looking for patterns, and trying to figure out how to improve in different areas of your game.
  
  All this to get one girlfriend? Yes, you will get 100% rejection rate without this unless you are legit Chad, and if you were a legit Chad you could easily get a girlfriend from dating apps in a day. You wouldn't even need to leave your home.
  
  Again, not an exaggeration. I've lived it. I've watched many other men with different looks levels run game in real life (No paid models, no edited videos as are very common online). You won't believe me until you've experienced it for yourself.
• Day game is extremely time consuming. Expect this to be a multi-year long thing before you get a girlfriend.
• NEVER touch a girl during day game, never threaten a girl, never follow a girl once she starts to walk away. Any of that shit will get you arrested. Do not compliment a girl's looks if she's under age, there's a former day gamer rotting in prison for that as well. The ONLY form of touching you should do before the first date is a hand shake, unless you want to wind up in jail.
• Expect to get punched by dude's sometimes. It just happens during day game, even if you're a nice guy. Some dudes, a very low percentage but some, will see you talking to their girlfriend, wife, or sister and go ape shit. This is why some day gamers learn martial arts, but most accept getting punched every once an da while as part of the territory. Expect 1 punch in every 3,000 approaches if you're a nice guy.

pm me and let me know how it goes.

Very high quality comment, read every single word and saved it

 

[chadcel;]

• Having enough conversation topics and ability to go through them with a stranger who's not really contributing to the conversation. Even when you find the 1 in a 100 girls that like you, they're not going to have the social skills to keep the conversation going, you're going to need routines for that. Once they're comfortable with you, maybe on the 2nd date it will be easier.
• Getting her to want to come out with you

Can you talk about this more, I get their contacts but usually they either dont reply or after talking a bit end up just not opening messages. I am not doing anything obviously wrong with text game too which is what confuses me. Not enough interest in the meeting? How to fix it?

 

[我需要阴部]

update us

 

[Wexilarious]

update us

I'm giving Up On Cold Approach - I Have Failed

I tried to do 10,000 approaches but I just can't do it anymore. I have approached girls and at best gotten nunbers and instagrams that didn't lead to anything after 2 months of approaching. The Return of investment for all this effort just isn't worth it. I will just GEOMaxx and get the hell...

looksmax.org

 

[Deleted member 15778]

Can you talk about this more, I get their contacts but usually they either dont reply or after talking a bit end up just not opening messages.

They're giving you their contacts to get rid of you.

The reason they don't give fake contacts is because many guys will call them before leaving to confirm they didn't get a fake contact, and women perceive men as threats to them.

I am not doing anything obviously wrong with text game too which is what confuses me. Not enough interest in the meeting? How to fix it?

Be better looking.

Also, How do you meet these women? What do you say to them? Where do you meet them?

 

[not__cel]

As some one who's done over a hundred approaches when I was tall, young, fit, with good skin and hair, in a pre-tinder world, in an area with lots of Asian women as a tall white guy, but still failed to get even a single number, good luck.

If you don't already get slays from tinder, then getting one girlfriend out of 300 is going to be far more difficult than you think.

As some one who's put in some hours of practice, and read and watched pretty much every book and video on pickup strategies, and watched friends in person that are good pickup girls, I'm going to offer you some advice.

1. Be Looksmaxed before doing day game. This means:

1. Single digit bodyfat, or at least bellow 15% with no belly that sticks out
2. Good muscle mass - natty is fine for some girls
3. Thick hair or frauding of thick hair
4. Good clean skin
5. No eye bags or wrinkles (surgery or skin care to get rid of)
6. Completed Surgeries done if you have a big facial flaw
7. Dental work if your teeth are unclean or crooked
8. Teeth whitening stripes if your teeth are not already very white
9. Eye surgery or contacts if you don't have perfect vision
10. Clean clothes that have no stains, fit well, and don't make you look try hard or like a pickup artist. Basically whatever looks good on you.
11. If looksmaxing is going to take you more than a year and you have time to practice game now, then sure start practicing game now to at least work on your game while you looksmax but don't expect girlfriends to come of it.
    
    I was part of a group of guys who would do pickup everyday. The ONLY guys that got any results from it were very good looking and met all of the above standards. And this was pre-tinder. They also had developed skill through practice.

2. Have a full routine stack that you've practiced and have down smooth that includes enough routines to pickup the girl, and get through your first date.

Unless you are already very good at pickup up women, you are going to need training wheels. Otherwise what spews from your mouth won't get good enough to seduce the girl.

You may have social skills now, but you likely don't have the SPECIFIC social skills of:

• Stopping a Girl
• Getting her to the hook point where she's ready to verbally respond. (Takes longer than you'd expect and is harder, even if you're attractive)
• Transitioning into getting to know her if you opened indirect, without her bailing and saying she's not interested. Direct game is easier, but requires a higher level of looks to pull off.
• Having enough conversation topics and ability to go through them with a stranger who's not really contributing to the conversation. Even when you find the 1 in a 100 girls that like you, they're not going to have the social skills to keep the conversation going, you're going to need routines for that. Once they're comfortable with you, maybe on the 2nd date it will be easier.
• Getting her to want to come out with you
• Getting her aroused on the date

You may be funny and charismatic, and likable, and good at making people comfortable, but you'll still have to learn these skills in addition. Because the girl won't be contributing to the conversation in any meaningful way in the beginning, and she'll be expecting you to do all the work (When you're lucky enough to get a girl that doesn't immediately walk away), you've going to have to have these routines so well practiced that you can perform them smoothly with confidence even under pressure.

When start approaching, what you'll be doing is learning to tailor your stories and routines to different personalities of girls (assuming you meet their looks threshold).

You may be thinking "I don't need to do all of that to get one girlfriend, I'll just approach ten thousand women until I get a girlfriend." What I'm telling you, is that it doesn't matter how many girls you approach if you don't do the above you won't get any girls. The exception being, you could be a little fat and still get some girls, and some girls are ok with bald guys as long as they're clean shaven, but all of the other things including routines is a requirement for day game. No girl is going to put in the work.

And the last thing is mindset. Even if you do these steps, after the first few hundred rejections, you're going to feel like you're doing something wrong. There's two things you need to keep top of your mind:

• It's partly a numbers game. Even with perfect looks and skill, you will at most get 10% of girls. When they're being honest, that's the close rate for extremely good looking guys, who are also extremely charismatic in a City like New York.
  
  For a tall LTN with extremely good game, after 10+ years of at least 3 hours of practice a day, the close rate is about 1 in 100 for dates and 1 in 1000 for lays, and they only get to that close rate after about 10,000 approaches. This is not a joke, which is why I said to looksmax before you begin, unless you are ok with getting rejected for the next ten years to learn skill that will only get you 1 in 1000 girls, just so you can get one girlfriend.
• You won't get better without focused practice. There are countless incels who have been doing game for years, sometimes as long as a decade without a single girlfriend or lay from it.
  
  This means you can't just mindlessly practice and expect to keep improving. You have to be constantly testing different routines and variations of routines, looking for patterns, and trying to figure out how to improve in different areas of your game.
  
  All this to get one girlfriend? Yes, you will get 100% rejection rate without this unless you are legit Chad, and if you were a legit Chad you could easily get a girlfriend from dating apps in a day. You wouldn't even need to leave your home.
  
  Again, not an exaggeration. I've lived it. I've watched many other men with different looks levels run game in real life (No paid models, no edited videos as are very common online). You won't believe me until you've experienced it for yourself.
• Day game is extremely time consuming. Expect this to be a multi-year long thing before you get a girlfriend.
• NEVER touch a girl during day game, never threaten a girl, never follow a girl once she starts to walk away. Any of that shit will get you arrested. Do not compliment a girl's looks if she's under age, there's a former day gamer rotting in prison for that as well. The ONLY form of touching you should do before the first date is a hand shake, unless you want to wind up in jail.
• Expect to get punched by dude's sometimes. It just happens during day game, even if you're a nice guy. Some dudes, a very low percentage but some, will see you talking to their girlfriend, wife, or sister and go ape shit. This is why some day gamers learn martial arts, but most accept getting punched every once an da while as part of the territory. Expect 1 punch in every 3,000 approaches if you're a nice guy.

pm me and let me know how it goes.

Make this into a thread on the looksmaxxing section. Quality stuff but add a few tweaks because of spam rules

 

[chadcel;]

Be better looking.

Also, How do you meet these women? What do you say to them? Where do you meet them?

Im not ugly, I have had a significant amount of girls say im hot/attractive. Rating HTN-Chadlite

I meet them either daygame or nightgame. Ive tried both direct and indirect. I have had sex from cold approaching but I want to be more consistent with results.

For direct Ill usually say Hey I was with my friends and saw you and thought you were cute and wanted to come talk to you. Usually I get some sort of reply here that's pretty positive or I have a boyfriend. Ill just make some small talk like what are you doing today and say what im doing. After a brief exchange I usually say well Im gonna head back to my friends but would you like to hangout/see each other sometime. For contacts I go for snapchat cos I dont have good insta and snapchat lets me thirst trap.

Indirect Ill usually just strike up a conversation with a situational opener and gauge interest. Idk if Ive gotten a single snap from indirect tbh I haven't done it much due to this. I never feel right turning the vibe from small talk to trying to get details for a date because the interaction is only friendly and 0 rizz.

Nightgame is clubs, its very inconsistent and I have no idea how to consistently get results from clubs. I usually struggle to even get someone to stay in one spot lol let alone get them on a date later. Ive gotten lots of snaps tho but again it dies out. Ive had makeouts and slays from clubs but I want to be consistent to where I can get multiple makeouts each night for example.

 

[aloooeJIEEES]

The only way to ascend as an incel is to cold approach, Volume means more opportunities.

I will not settle for low quality women, I will aproach 10,000 girls until i find at least one Big Titty blue eyed black haired Jewish girl who likes me.

Dating apps are a waste of time
Clubs are sausage fests
I have no social circle
My family wont find me a girl

Cold approach is my only hope

Gl

 

[Deleted member 15778]

Im not ugly, I have had a significant amount of girls say im hot/attractive. Rating HTN-Chadlite

I meet them either daygame or nightgame. Ive tried both direct and indirect. I have had sex from cold approaching but I want to be more consistent with results.

What's your close percentage?

Pickup is sales. You can't have consistent results with sales. It's a numbers game, even when you have the perfect product. If you only open girls who give you strong IOIs your results will improve. If you become better looking (Solid CL or Chad) your results will improve.

For direct Ill usually say Hey I was with my friends and saw you and thought you were cute and wanted to come talk to you. Usually I get some sort of reply here that's pretty positive or I have a boyfriend. Ill just make some small talk like what are you doing today and say what im doing. After a brief exchange I usually say well Im gonna head back to my friends but would you like to hangout/see each other sometime. For contacts I go for snapchat cos I dont have good insta and snapchat lets me thirst trap.

Indirect Ill usually just strike up a conversation with a situational opener and gauge interest. Idk if Ive gotten a single snap from indirect tbh I haven't done it much due to this. I never feel right turning the vibe from small talk to trying to get details for a date because the interaction is only friendly and 0 rizz.

Nightgame is clubs, its very inconsistent and I have no idea how to consistently get results from clubs. I usually struggle to even get someone to stay in one spot lol let alone get them on a date later. Ive gotten lots of snaps tho but again it dies out. Ive had makeouts and slays from clubs but I want to be consistent to where I can get multiple makeouts each night for example.

 

[chadcel;]

What's your close percentage?

Pickup is sales. You can't have consistent results with sales. It's a numbers game, even when you have the perfect product. If you only open girls who give you strong IOIs your results will improve. If you become better looking (Solid CL or Chad) your results will improve.

I think part of the problem is I live in Sydney where people are very closed off to strangers. With IOIs I've had an over 30 minute conversation with a girl once that was high interest and flirty but she ghosted me anyway lol. And despite that I've had success from approaches where it was pretty much just talk for a minute and get their details.

My next move is to try dating apps, I think with good pics and decent game it should give some leads at least.

 

[Deleted member 15778]

I think part of the problem is I live in Sydney where people are very closed off to strangers. With IOIs I've had an over 30 minute conversation with a girl once that was high interest and flirty but she ghosted me anyway lol. And despite that I've had success from approaches where it was pretty much just talk for a minute and get their details.

My next move is to try dating apps, I think with good pics and decent game it should give some leads at least.

You would do well in the U.S. with an Australian accent.