Will bimax with VMI fix my extremly long midface? genio or chin implant for clef chin?

[skibdiddy]

 

[jester]

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extremely long midface?? you’re a fucking retard

 

[axttt_]

ur midface isnt extremely long , your jaw is extremely short

 

[vermicel]

extremely long midface?? you’re a fucking retard

@skibdiddy does have a dominant midface on his current face due to an underdeveloped chin and a flat mandible that cause SFS. So, yeah, his thirds are off.

Current thirds (approx.) :
31 % upper third
36,5 % midface
32,5 % lower third

If I remember it right, the ideal range for men is rather around 31-32 / 33-34 / 34-36 (i.e. lower third dominant).

Morph with augmented chin :

Corrected thirds (approx.) :
30 % upper third
35 % midface
35 % lower third

Still a bit off, but better. His overall harmony is improved.
If I project his chin any further downward, it will throw off his chin-to-philtrum ratio, and will look crimson-esque.

 

[vermicel]

@skibdiddy if you have an overbite, I would say BSSO + genio. If your occlusion is fine, then you have to focus on the chin with a mini wing or a classic genio / implant.
I could be wrong though, as my understanding of jaw surgery is quite limited.

To further improve your face, I would suggest to correct the bulbosity of your nose tip, and to augment the upper lip (with a lip lift or filler).

Morph with refined nose tip and augmented upper lip :

Your potential is quite good imo.

 

[jester]

@skibdiddy does have a dominant midface on his current face due to an underdeveloped chin and a flat mandible that cause SFS. So, yeah, his thirds are off.

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Current thirds (approx.) :
31 % upper third
36,5 % midface
32,5 % lower third

If I remember it right, the ideal range for men is rather around 31-32 / 33-34 / 34-36 (i.e. lower third dominant).

Morph with augmented chin :

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Corrected thirds (approx.) :
30 % upper third
35 % midface
35 % lower third

Still a bit off, but better. His overall harmony is improved.
If I project his chin any further downward, it will throw off his chin-to-philtrum ratio, and will look crimson-esque.

yeah it’s not his midface that’s the problem he has a short face and either way it’s not “extremely” long, suboptimal sure

 

[lurking truecel]

@skibdiddy if you have an overbite, I would say BSSO + genio. If your occlusion is fine, then you have to focus on the chin with a mini wing or a classic genio / implant.
I could be wrong though, as my understanding of jaw surgery is quite limited.

To further improve your face, I would suggest to correct the bulbosity of your nose tip, and to augment the upper lip (with a lip lift or filler).

Morph with refined nose tip and augmented upper lip :

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Your potential is quite good imo.

Chud potential, but a good result would only come from bimax downgraft for sfs. Sure some kind of mini chin wing could substitute but barely

 

[vermicel]

Chud potential

With a fixed face, he reminds me of an upper class Brit. I think it's a pretty worthy association (good racial stock + social distinction).

And noted for the bimax downgraft.

@skibdiddy to complete the front profile morph, here's the side profile :

jaw movement akin to a bimax downgraft (if I'm not mistaken)
+ rhinoplasty (dorsal hump removal, tip refinement)
+ lip lift (subtle effect from that angle)
+ hair cut for the back of the head ... unless you suffer from scaphocephalia, there's no reason to keep that much volume at the back, as it creates an unbalanced cranium's side profile

By the way, as a softmax with potentially good ROI, have you tried to dye your eyelashes in a shade of mid brown ? Based on those pics, I believe it could really improve your eye area and health indicators.

 

[lurking truecel]

With a fixed face, he reminds me of an upper class Brit. I think it's a pretty worthy association (good racial stock + social distinction).

And noted for the bimax downgraft.

@skibdiddy to complete the front profile morph, here's the side profile :

View attachment 4374546

jaw movement akin to a bimax downgraft (if I'm not mistaken)
+ rhinoplasty (dorsal hump removal, tip refinement)
+ lip lift (subtle effect from that angle)
+ hair cut for the back of the head ... unless you suffer from scaphocephalia, there's no reason to keep that much volume at the back, as it creates an unbalanced cranium's side profile

By the way, as a softmax with potentially good ROI, have you tried to dye your eyelashes in a shade of mid brown ? Based on those pics, I believe it could really improve your eye area and health indicators.

Sfs patients are one of the few that can get a lot better lips with bimax only. And even more refined nose.

 

[skibdiddy]

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With a fixed face, he reminds me of an upper class Brit. I think it's a pretty worthy association (good racial stock + social distinction).

And noted for the bimax downgraft.

@skibdiddy to complete the front profile morph, here's the side profile :

View attachment 4374546

jaw movement akin to a bimax downgraft (if I'm not mistaken)
+ rhinoplasty (dorsal hump removal, tip refinement)
+ lip lift (subtle effect from that angle)
+ hair cut for the back of the head ... unless you suffer from scaphocephalia, there's no reason to keep that much volume at the back, as it creates an unbalanced cranium's side profile

By the way, as a softmax with potentially good ROI, have you tried to dye your eyelashes in a shade of mid brown ? Based on those pics, I believe it could really improve your eye area and health i

 

[skibdiddy]

yea i dye my lashes in this pic my lash dye was almost back to ginger but i js dyed them the other day it looks wayy better but my lashes are really long but they unforunatly curl down so it looks a lil weird and can make me lookasymetrical and have nct but it looks good w curler but i curled them months ago and they mogged untill i tore them out so now ive been regrowing with lash serum but there almost back but soon i will start curling them properly again

 

[skibdiddy]

also would i benefit from infraorbital implants alot? I also irratated my eyes with the dye so they hurt and are a lil red

 

[skibdiddy]

extremely long midface?? you’re a fucking retard

 

[skibdiddy]

damn alright thats js what i was told from other people but now i realize the issue.

 

[skibdiddy]

Sfs patients are one of the few that can get a

yeah it’s not his midface that’s the problem he has a short face and either way it’s not “extremely” long, suboptimal sure

With a fixed face, he reminds me of an upper class Brit. I think it's a pretty worthy association (good racial stock + social distinction).

And noted for the bimax downgraft.

@skibdiddy to complete the front profile morph, here's the side profile :

View attachment 4374546

jaw movement akin to a bimax downgraft (if I'm not mistaken)
+ rhinoplasty (dorsal hump removal, tip refinement)
+ lip lift (subtle effect from that angle)
+ hair cut for the back of the head ... unless you suffer from scaphocephalia, there's no reason to keep that much volume at the back, as it creates an unbalanced cranium's side profile

By the way, as a softmax with potentially good ROI, have you tried to dye your eyelashes in a shade of mid brown ? Based on those pics, I believe it could really improve your eye area and health indicators.

so what should be the full surgical plan? bimax, or just a bsso without a lefort and implant?

 

[lurking truecel]

so what should be the full surgical plan? bimax, or just a bsso without a lefort and implant?

Bimax, but most surgeons wound not take your case so you need to go to some money hungry surgeon in turkey most likely

 

[NarrowBoneMarrow]

Bimax, but most surgeons wound not take your case so you need to go to some money hungry surgeon in turkey most likely

That’s like asking to get botched

I think he can get away with a vertical + horizontal genio

 

[jester]

so what should be the full surgical plan? bimax, or just a bsso without a lefort and implant?

trimax and outward gonion implants ig

 

[skibdiddy]

Bimax, but most surgeons wound not take your case so you need to go to some money hungry surgeon in turkey most likely

realistically is it that hard to find a surgeon im 17 now but wanting in the future.

 

[lurking truecel]

realistically is it that hard to find a surgeon im 17 now but wanting in the future.

Nah

 

[lurking truecel]

That’s like asking to get botched

I think he can get away with a vertical + horizontal genio

His lips wont get better. He is already good looking. Bimax would ascend him extremly hard. From a little twink to good looking chad lite

 

[slaters]

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Sfs patients are one of the few that can get a lot better lips with bimax only. And even more refined nose.

How does it affect the nose?

 

[lurking truecel]

How does it affect the nose?

Not much when you dont move forward.

 

[Whirr22222]

If u wanna increase lower third height, 3 point landing BSSO is ur best bet, as for LF1 i cant really tell if u need tbh.

 

[iblamemygenes]

With a fixed face, he reminds me of an upper class Brit. I think it's a pretty worthy association (good racial stock + social distinction).

And noted for the bimax downgraft.

@skibdiddy to complete the front profile morph, here's the side profile :

View attachment 4374546

jaw movement akin to a bimax downgraft (if I'm not mistaken)
+ rhinoplasty (dorsal hump removal, tip refinement)
+ lip lift (subtle effect from that angle)
+ hair cut for the back of the head ... unless you suffer from scaphocephalia, there's no reason to keep that much volume at the back, as it creates an unbalanced cranium's side profile

By the way, as a softmax with potentially good ROI, have you tried to dye your eyelashes in a shade of mid brown ? Based on those pics, I believe it could really improve your eye area and health indicators.

Amazing morphs wish you could do this for me