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imagine the top curve of your chart being 174cm
and women have the nerve to make fun of short men who are much taller than them
women are a failed species
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That's from 2000. And yeah I tell John I am as tall as or height mog >80% plus of women. Although on that chart officially it's more close to 90%. Despite data being 20+ years old.View attachment 3756562
imagine the top curve of your chart being 174cm
and women have the nerve to make fun of short men who are much taller than them
women are a failed species
im half joking. Of course women aren't meant to be tall but the fact they feminize short men whilst being shorter and weaker than short men is funnyMakes sense, they've no reason to be tall.
why'd you ever wanna fuck a giantess? That's low T af.
average height has barely changed since then since that chart is based on the west and theyve barely grown taller recently. I think average height for female white zoomers is 1cm taller max so just adjust it by 1cmThat's from 2000. And yeah I tell John I am as tall as or height mog >80% plus of women. Although on that chart officially it's more close to 90%. Despite data being 20+ years old.
Anyway there is no point arguing with @JohnDoe on this point. Doesn't believe stats. Walking around and taking snapshot measures with people in motion is apparently more accurate than large scale "Jewish" studies based on millions of randomised samples and peer reviewed.
Idk zoomers are definitely taller. Average 17 yo white girl isn't 164 today. I think 167 is more realistic. Maybe 168. Brutalaverage height has barely changed since then since that chart is based on the west and theyve barely grown taller recently. I think average height for female white zoomers is 1cm taller max so just adjust it by 1cm
You just think that because lots of white women are 5’6. It doesnt mean the average is near 5’6, it just means 5’6 is a common height for white women. Trust me, if the average was 167/168 for white women, wed be seeing 5’8 girls 24/7 which isnt the caseIdk zoomers are definitely taller. Average 17 yo white girl isn't 164 today. I think 167 is more realistic. Maybe 168. Brutal
I doubt they would grow 5cm in 1 gen.
Yeah Im aware. The distributions generally remain the same. I think about 1/8th of zoomers girls are 5'8+ which is suifeul. So not uncommon.You just think that because lots of white women are 5’6. It doesnt mean the average is near 5’6, it just means 5’6 is a common height for white women. Trust me, if the average was 167/168 for white women, wed be seeing 5’8 girls 24/7 which isnt the case
I think 5’4.5 and 5’10 seems pretty accurate to me based on studies on young whites. Maybe location within white areas also matters like whether youre in a low class, middle class or high class area. I doubt the average for middle-high class guys is anywhere near 6’ tbh. In Beijing theres a great rural-urban divide and the difference is 2cm: rural is 1cm shorter than avg and urban is 1cm taller than avg. I doubt in the west, theres this much of a divide so 1cm above average is the MAX avg height for high class zoomers. When including both middle and high class zoomers (most common demographics at colleges/unis) i really doubt the average is anything more than 5’10.5. I just think the utter abundance of 5’11.5-6’ guys due to it being barely above average makes young whites look taller.Yeah Im aware. The distributions generally remain the same. I think about 1/8th of zoomers girls are 5'8+ which is suifeul. So not uncommon.
Also women are like 5-6 inches shorter than the guys. This is irrespective of location. If 5'6 was average then, average for guys would be 6'0. That doesn't sound far off reality if we are only taking into account WHITE zoomers.
This is a 2021 study so fairly accurate. Idk the sample size but looks like it's enough if you look at the differential by each age group - they clearly have a good dataset they're working with.I think 5’4.5 and 5’10 seems pretty accurate to me based on studies on young whites. Maybe location within white areas also matters like whether youre in a low class, middle class or high class area. I doubt the average for middle-high class guys is anywhere near 6’ tbh. In Beijing theres a great rural-urban divide and the difference is 2cm: rural is 1cm shorter than avg and urban is 1cm taller than avg. I doubt in the west, theres this much of a divide so 1cm above average is the MAX avg height for high class zoomers. When including both middle and high class zoomers (most common demographics at colleges/unis) i really doubt the average is anything more than 5’10.5. I just think the utter abundance of 5’11.5-6’ guys due to it being barely above average makes young whites look taller.
Theres no way thats accurate. It even includes 16-17yos who arent fully grown and the average is 5’10.5? If you only take into account 18-24yos the average would be like 5’11 easily. How come theres such a big height difference between millennials and zoomers: 5’11 vs 5’10? Seems like its self reported or the sample sizes were really smallThis is a 2021 study so fairly accurate. Idk the sample size but looks like it's enough if you look at the differential by each age group - they clearly have a good dataset they're working with.
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Now if you minus the ethnics (who at this point might form 10-20% of the data for 16-24s) and also if you focus on middle class areas. Definitely it would be 5'11+
Whenever I walk in central London they are like 2 inches taller than other parts of London. No cap. I go through east London (poor + ethnic) and into central and the height difference between people is easily perceptible. Even when a random white girl comes onto the train she is almost as tall as ethnics![]()
Even 16/17 year olds most of them have already reached their max height. There like a 5% chance they aren't done growing. And if they have, then they will grow by another 1-2cm max and that's pushing it - wouldn't change the data too much. It's like the difference between morning and evening height. It's negligible.Theres no way thats accurate. It even includes 16-17yos who arent fully grown and the average is 5’10.5?
If it's self-reported data then it would have been higher lol. You cannot trust that kind of data.. just like you cannot trust actual height measurements on these videos. You need an actual stadiometer to accurately measure someone's height.If you only take into account 18-24yos the average would be like 5’11 easily. How come theres such a big height difference between millennials and zoomers: 5’11 vs 5’10? Seems like its self reported or the sample sizes were really small
5’11 is reasonable even if they barely grow. Thats a whole inch taller than the next age group which is ridiculous imo.Even 16/17 year olds most of them have already reached their max height. There like a 5% chance they aren't done growing. And if they have, then they will grow by another 1-2cm max and that's pushing it - wouldn't change the data too much. It's like the difference between morning and evening height. It's negligible.
Nah iirc self reported is like an inch higher on average. The other age groups would be even shorter tho so it wouldnt make sense since 5’10 is undoubtedly the shortest young white men can be. Maybe small sample size or they selected people from prestigious colleges/unis and schools for 16-24If it's self-reported data then it would have been higher lol. You cannot trust that kind of data.. just like you cannot trust actual height measurements on these videos. You need an actual stadiometer to accurately measure someone's height.
I just looked further into these 2021 stats from NHS5’11 is reasonable even if they barely grow. Thats a whole inch taller than the next age group which is ridiculous imo.
Nah iirc self reported is like an inch higher on average. The other age groups would be even shorter tho so it wouldnt make sense since 5’10 is undoubtedly the shortest young white men can be. Maybe small sample size or they selected people from prestigious colleges/unis and schools for 16-24
If between 1993 and 2019, the average increased by a cm for men, how come the difference between millennials and zoomers is so great (like an inch or slightly below - 1.5cm-2.54cm)? Seems like zoomers larp more than millennials and previous generations.I just looked further into these 2021 stats from NHS
"A total of 5,880 adults (aged 16 and over) and 1,240 children (aged 0 to 15) were interviewed in the 2021 survey. "
- so that's about a few hundred divided by gender for each age group I take it. I don't know about regional variations /income etc. If they sampled correctly, they will take people from a wide range of backgrounds the so that they could extrapolate from this data accurately. A few hundred for each age groups are likely to be representative anyway.
We are focusing on white + male + middle class + 16+24. The number of people in this data set who I likely to be from this background are going to be extremely small. 100 at best.
I don't live in ethnic areas at all so if anyone knows what it's like to be heightmogged it's me. Literally 99% white areas all my life. Whenever I go to any ethnic areas I feel a bit more normal. Yet I see @JohnDoe complaining everyday and he lives in an ethnic area. Makes no sense
"In 2021, the mean heights of men and women based on adjustments to self-reported height were 175.9cm and 162.4cm, respectively.
Findings from this survey are not directly comparable with previous HSE survey years (see the Methods report for more information). Between 1993 and 2019, mean height increased by slightly more than 1cm among men, and by half that much among women. In 2019, the mean heights of men and women based on measured values were 175.5cm and 161.7cm, respectively."
- so it was self-reported but they seem to have adjusted based on it. Meaning they know people overestimate their height.
Ive been to ethnic areas and men are no taller than 5’8-5’9. I dont know what @JohnDoe is talking about if hes 5’8.5 (?). He probably just focuses on guys who heightmog him and ignores shorter guys. Or he only focuses on whites and ignores ethnicsI just looked further into these 2021 stats from NHS
"A total of 5,880 adults (aged 16 and over) and 1,240 children (aged 0 to 15) were interviewed in the 2021 survey. "
- so that's about a few hundred divided by gender for each age group I take it. I don't know about regional variations /income etc. If they sampled correctly, they will take people from a wide range of backgrounds the so that they could extrapolate from this data accurately. A few hundred for each age groups are likely to be representative anyway.
We are focusing on white + male + middle class + 16+24. The number of people in this data set who I likely to be from this background are going to be extremely small. 100 at best.
I don't live in ethnic areas at all so if anyone knows what it's like to be heightmogged it's me. Literally 99% white areas all my life. Whenever I go to any ethnic areas I feel a bit more normal. Yet I see @JohnDoe complaining everyday and he lives in an ethnic area. Makes no sense
"In 2021, the mean heights of men and women based on adjustments to self-reported height were 175.9cm and 162.4cm, respectively.
Findings from this survey are not directly comparable with previous HSE survey years (see the Methods report for more information). Between 1993 and 2019, mean height increased by slightly more than 1cm among men, and by half that much among women. In 2019, the mean heights of men and women based on measured values were 175.5cm and 161.7cm, respectively."
- so it was self-reported but they seem to have adjusted based on it. Meaning they know people overestimate their height.
If you look up places like Korea they actually did increase like that. So it's not completely out of question. But that kind of trend if it continues, you will see average height be like 6'6 for people being born in 2050s so it's not sustainableIf between 1993 and 2019, the average increased by a cm for men, how come the difference between millennials and zoomers is so great (like an inch or slightly below - 1.5cm-2.54cm)? Seems like zoomers larp more than millennials and previous generations.
It's not only that. If you take a holiday to any ethnic country you are basically average at that height.Ive been to ethnic areas and men are no taller than 5’8-5’9. I dont know what @JohnDoe is talking about if hes 5’8.5 (?). He probably just focuses on guys who heightmog him and ignores shorter guys. Or he only focuses on whites and ignores ethnics
Korea is a massive outlier and not comparable to the west. They have grown more than most countries in the world. Korean women have grown more than any other nationality of women in the last century. I wouldnt be surprised if koreans eventually equalled whites in height. I dont think people with british dna will ever reach 6’-6’1 unless theres gene editing. I dont even think natural selection will allow that kind of height growth.If you look up places like Korea they actually did increase like that. So it's not completely out of question. But that kind of trend if it continues, you will see average height be like 6'6 for people being born in 2050s so it's not sustainable
That kind of height growth only exists in third world countries.
That is a aberration especially for a western country. As most western countries are "peaking" in their height growth once they reach the 6ft mark.
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Yea western ethnics are taller than their native counterparts. Blacks definitely are white height nowadays despite being shorter b4. I think ethnics will close the gap on whites a bit moreIt's not only that. If you take a holiday to any ethnic country you are basically average at that height.
Maybe paki guys are 5'10 on average. But definitely not other curry ethnics. Blacks who have lived multiple generations probably are. Ethnics are definitely able to grow 2-3 inches taller than their parents on average. Definitely not a white kids.
You compare your height to women instead of other men yet I'm the coper? BruhThat's from 2000. And yeah I tell John I am as tall as or height mog >80% plus of women. Although on that chart officially it's more close to 90%. Despite data being 20+ years old.
Anyway there is no point arguing with @JohnDoe on this point. Doesn't believe stats. Walking around and taking snapshot measures with people in motion is apparently more accurate than large scale "Jewish" studies based on millions of randomised samples and peer reviewed.
You say you get heightmogged by women all the time thoughYou compare your height to women instead of other men yet I'm the coper? Bruh
We are talking about women's height here specifically.You compare your height to women instead of other men yet I'm the coper? Bruh
Yeah I'm aware. But I made that point to stress that even if that's true it's not sustainable over a century. If the height of a newborn baby is increased 2.5cm every decade then babies being born in 2050s would be 6'4Korea is a massive outlier and not comparable to the west. They have grown more than most countries in the world. Korean women have grown more than any other nationality of women in the last century. I wouldnt be surprised if koreans eventually equalled whites in height. I dont think people with british dna will ever reach 6’-6’1 unless theres gene editing. I dont even think natural selection will allow that kind of height growth.
Definitely agree with blacks but they immigrated here far earlier. I think curries need another two gens to catch up to 5'10. But Pakis may already be there. Definitely not Bengalis or Indians.Yea western ethnics are taller than their native counterparts. Blacks definitely are white height nowadays despite being shorter b4. I think ethnics will close the gap on whites a bit more
You cope so hard with muh studies it's insane. Let me give you a dose of reality since nobody else wants to. 85 - 90% of men are taller than you aka 5'8 or above. You are bottom 10 percentile in mens, height. I am 5'8.5, 75 - 80% of men are same height or taller.We are talking about women's height here specifically.
Yeah I'm aware. But I made that point to stress that even if that's true it's not sustainable over a century. If the height of a newborn baby is increased 2.5cm every decade then babies being born in 2050s would be 6'4
7'0 would be the new 6'0
It happened for Korea but impossible for the west. Even if they are growing they are growing are too much slower rate.
Human height has a biological limit.
Definitely agree with blacks but they immigrated here far earlier. I think curries need another two gens to catch up to 5'10. But Pakis may already be there. Definitely not Bengalis or Indians.
Muh percentiles! You do realise 1 inch isnt even a mog? Keep coping with height chadpreetYou cope so hard with muh studies it's insane. Let me give you a dose of reality since nobody else wants to. 85 - 90% of men are taller than you aka 5'8 or above. You are bottom 10 percentile in mens, height. I am 5'8.5, 75 - 80% of men are same height or taller.
I really don't know why you cope so hard about height, me and @Basedking complain but we don't delude ourselves. Look at the studies goys!!! Get real
Well done this is what I've been telling you. You finally admitted it. Being the bottom 20th percentile is not bad at all. And also at that percentile you are taller than 95% plus white women and 99% pakis. So why worry?You cope so hard with muh studies it's insane. Let me give you a dose of reality since nobody else wants to. 85 - 90% of men are taller than you aka 5'8 or above. You are bottom 10 percentile in mens, height. I am 5'8.5, 75 - 80% of men are same height or taller.
Taking a snapshot measurement of men and women you walk past from a distance is realI really don't know why you cope so hard about height, me and @Basedking complain but we don't delude ourselves. Look at the studies goys!!! Get real
Tell johndoe to unignore me i think hes ignored me. I trolled when calling him 5’7.5Well done this is what I've been telling you. You finally admitted it. Being the bottom 20th percentile is not bad at all. And also at that percentile you are taller than 95% plus white women and 99% pakis. So why worry?
Taking a snapshot measurement of men and women you walk past from a distance is real
I think you're the one deluding yourself friend![]()
Brits are short, how are u getting heightmogged there? Try coming in the balkans where average height is 6’2I just looked further into these 2021 stats from NHS
"A total of 5,880 adults (aged 16 and over) and 1,240 children (aged 0 to 15) were interviewed in the 2021 survey. "
- so that's about a few hundred divided by gender for each age group I take it. I don't know about regional variations /income etc. If they sampled correctly, they will take people from a wide range of backgrounds the so that they could extrapolate from this data accurately. A few hundred for each age groups are likely to be representative anyway.
We are focusing on white + male + middle class + 16+24. The number of people in this data set who I likely to be from this background are going to be extremely small. 100 at best.
I don't live in ethnic areas at all so if anyone knows what it's like to be heightmogged it's me. Literally 99% white areas all my life. Whenever I go to any ethnic areas I feel a bit more normal. Yet I see @JohnDoe complaining everyday and he lives in an ethnic area. Makes no sense
"In 2021, the mean heights of men and women based on adjustments to self-reported height were 175.9cm and 162.4cm, respectively.
Findings from this survey are not directly comparable with previous HSE survey years (see the Methods report for more information). Between 1993 and 2019, mean height increased by slightly more than 1cm among men, and by half that much among women. In 2019, the mean heights of men and women based on measured values were 175.5cm and 161.7cm, respectively."
- so it was self-reported but they seem to have adjusted based on it. Meaning they know people overestimate their height.
pretty sure 6'2 is self reportedBrits are short, how are u getting heightmogged there? Try coming in the balkans where average height is 6’2
isnt that only like one region. rest is 6'. ironic u post that cuz northern netherlands is similar to the tallest regions of the balkans“Self reported”
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Dinaric alps covers most of the balkans, if we go by regions balkans have the tallest regions in the world but im going by nations alone which balkans are still the tallest in the world, montenegro and bosnia dominating despite having low protein index, indicating that they will grow even taller because they’re not even at half of their top protein index. Insane.isnt that only like one region. rest is 6'. ironic u post that cuz northern netherlands is similar to the tallest regions of the balkans
Brits are short, how are u getting heightmogged there? Try coming in the balkans where average height is 6’2
Im never stepping a foot inside those countries.“Self reported”
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how come netherlands is above the balkans then? they mog croatia hard even. Protein is cope if other nutritional needs are met and balkans arent exactly skinny. I havent seen their height development tho so i dont know about their potential. i think netherlands has stagnated since like 2000 thoDinaric alps covers most of the balkans, if we go by regions balkans have the tallest regions in the world but im going by nations alone which balkans are still the tallest in the world, montenegro and bosnia dominating despite having low protein index, indicating that they will grow even taller because they’re not even at half of their top protein index. Insane.
I'm surprised how they're that tall as well given how poor it is. There must be something in the water or something. Doesn't make sense. Especially given there was a war in Bosnia in the 90sDinaric alps covers most of the balkans, if we go by regions balkans have the tallest regions in the world but im going by nations alone which balkans are still the tallest in the world, montenegro and bosnia dominating despite having low protein index, indicating that they will grow even taller because they’re not even at half of their top protein index. Insane.
what about 5'9 countries?Im never stepping a foot inside those countries.
UK is still tall excluding northern Europe and those Balkan shitholes.
Probably genetics since they have cromagnon dna or somethingI'm surprised how they're that tall as well given how poor it is. There must be something in the water or something. Doesn't make sense. Especially given there was a war in Bosnia in the 90s
Which countries in northern Europe (scandis) are 5'9.what about 5'9 countries?
no countries in scandinavia are 5'9 unless you go up north to meet the samis who are even shorter than 5'9 iirc. Would you visit portugal? Their average is around 5'9. I have a friend who's 5'9 and he says he wouldn't mind going to 5'9 countriesWhich countries in northern Europe (scandis) are 5'9.
I know Albania is short compared to their neighbours in the Balkans but they're Albanians JFL.
When I went to Greece they were like 1 inch shorter than Brits.
That exactly what I was saying. UK is tall globally but not amongst the tallest. Tbf those Balkan countries + Netherland and Nordic countries + Estonia/Latvia etc are in a league of their own.no countries in scandinavia are 5'9 unless you go up north to meet the samis who are even shorter than 5'9 iirc. Would you visit portugal? Their average is around 5'9. I have a friend who's 5'9 and he says he wouldn't mind going to 5'9 countries
I knew a 6' guy who said he would feel insecure if he visited countries with average heights above 5'9 (including 5'9). Yet manlets dont mind if theyre near average. Its funny how insecure some people areThat exactly what I was saying. UK is tall globally but not amongst the tallest. Tbf those Balkan countries + Netherland and Nordic countries + Estonia/Latvia etc are in a league of their own.
After that you have Anglo countries, France, Germany and maybe Spain and Russia on the low end.
Only after that then you got Portugal, north Africa, Turkey, Lebanon. They are not as tall as the UK. I wouldn't be insecure at all if I was in these countries. I'd still be shorter than average but wearing Nike air max would solve the day for me.
Because netherlands is not above balkans even with significantly better protein index, they’re 1-2cm shorter than the balkanshow come netherlands is above the balkans then? they mog croatia hard even. Protein is cope if other nutritional needs are met and balkans arent exactly skinny. I havent seen their height development tho so i dont know about their potential. i think netherlands has stagnated since like 2000 tho
Greeks are taller than brits, brits are 175cm on average while both Greeks and Albanians are 178-179cm on average, both taller than brits. UK is short compared to even the shortest balkan countries.Which countries in northern Europe (scandis) are 5'9.
I know Albania is short compared to their neighbours in the Balkans but they're Albanians JFL.
When I went to Greece they were like 1 inch shorter than Brits.
Just look at the average height map and statisticsThat exactly what I was saying. UK is tall globally but not amongst the tallest. Tbf those Balkan countries + Netherland and Nordic countries + Estonia/Latvia etc are in a league of their own.
After that you have Anglo countries, France, Germany and maybe Spain and Russia on the low end.
Only after that then you got Portugal, north Africa, Turkey, Lebanon. They are not as tall as the UK. I wouldn't be insecure at all if I was in these countries. I'd still be shorter than average but wearing Nike air max would solve the day for me.