Women didn't evolve to select for men with the strongest genes, it just happened that the strongest genes enforced themselves upon women

[6ft4]

In modern society, the idea that women exclusively select for the men with the strongest genes they can possibly find is utterly laughable given the state of most men who reproduce today.
I would in fact go so far as to say that the advantage to having stronger or superior genes is close to not existent in terms of reproducing compared to a male who has 20th percentile genes for example.
A quick way to think of this is, if you have 20 guys in a university classroom, pick out the 4th or 5th genetically weakest guy who represents the 20th percentile.
Do you think this guy is struggling to date, or do you think he coasted through life and happened to find a girl who likes him to enter a relationship with and is in all likelihood going to reproduce with her (or another foid) a few times?
It's almost certainly always the latter

In the past, men of a tribe or ethnic group would form together to attack the men of another tribe and they would wipe out the men from the other tribe if they were the stronger ones then impregnate their women, the Yamnaya did this right across Europe.
Women got impregnated by the stronger men and had no choice in the matter

Lets say men of one tribe conquered another due to being stronger/superior and impregnated all of the women, in the following generation or two if there's no further outside threats, it wouldn't be a case of just the strongest males continuing to reproduce, the weaker males would get to reproduce too because women have no biological instinct that stops them from developing attraction to weak genes men who they are familiar with (within reason, weak genes LTNs get to reproduce)

In this current prison planet, wiping out an entire group of weaker people through violence and impregnating their women just cant be pulled off on a large scale without all of the rest of the world working together to fight back and imprison you (cops, legal system, journalists, normies bringing light to it via social media)

When I say weaker people I dont just mean other nationalities or ethnicities but it could extend to a scenario of all of the upperMTNs and HTNs in a country banding together to kill all of the lowerMTNs and LTNs so now theres a larger surplus of available women.

Most men who are alive today shouldn't even be alive if we were living in accordance with nature @TheLastLaugh
The only single reason that men prospered or evolved physically and mentally at previous points in history was due to superior men killing off the inferior men thus the superior men had more women available to impregnate, it was never because of the choices that women made regarding who they let impregnate them

 

[Montgomery]

 

[Goth]

Not a word

 

[Deleted member 90941]

In modern society, the idea that women exclusively select for the men with the strongest genes they can possibly find is utterly laughable given the state of most men who reproduce today.
I would in fact go so far as to say that the advantage to having stronger or superior genes is close to not existent in terms of reproducing compared to a male who has 20th percentile genes for example.
A quick way to think of this is, if you have 20 guys in a university classroom, pick out the 4th or 5th genetically weakest guy who represents the 20th percentile.
Do you think this guy is struggling to date, or do you think he coasted through life and happened to find a girl who likes him to enter a relationship with and is in all likelihood going to reproduce with her (or another foid) a few times?
It's almost certainly always the latter

In the past, men of a tribe or ethnic group would form together to attack the men of another tribe and they would wipe out the men from the other tribe if they were the stronger ones then impregnate their women, the Yamnaya did this right across Europe.
Women got impregnated by the stronger men and had no choice in the matter

Lets say men of one tribe conquered another due to being stronger/superior and impregnated all of the women, in the following generation or two if there's no further outside threats, it wouldn't be a case of just the strongest males continuing to reproduce, the weaker males would get to reproduce too because women have no biological instinct that stops them from developing attraction to weak genes men who they are familiar with (within reason, weak genes LTNs get to reproduce)

In this current prison planet, wiping out an entire group of weaker people through violence and impregnating their women just cant be pulled off on a large scale without all of the rest of the world working together to fight back and imprison you (cops, legal system, journalists, normies bringing light to it via social media)

When I say weaker people I dont just mean other nationalities or ethnicities but it could extend to a scenario of all of the upperMTNs and HTNs in a country banding together to kill all of the lowerMTNs and LTNs so now theres a larger surplus of available women.

Most men who are alive today shouldn't even be alive if we were living in accordance with nature @TheLastLaugh
The only single reason that men prospered or evolved physically and mentally at previous points in history was due to superior men killing off the inferior men thus the superior men had more women available to impregnate, it was never because of the choices that women made regarding who they let impregnate them

God, you're wrong on so many levels. You have much to learn.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

posts here would be so much better if people had any clue about stochastics

but then again, these aren't exactly academic debate forums

 

[ㅤㅤㅤㅤClavicular]

Yea womens perception of aesthetics is disgraceful, ive received complements on my subpar features numerous times from women. They have no biological subconscious for choosing the right genes. I dont get why people are still coping about some of this shit, most of these tropes come from redpillers also who are trying to sell PUA courses.

 

[fluoride1337]

Yea womens perception of aesthetics is disgraceful, ive received complements on my subpar features numerous times from women. They have no biological subconscious for choosing the right genes. I dont get why people are still coping about some of this shit, most of these tropes come from redpillers also who are trying to sell PUA courses.

Very true, I've gotten the most compliments on my failos (d40 eyes and big nose) because women are a hivemind and the tiktok trend of the month was the "big noses are hot" meme and normies love virtual signalling about brown eyes

 

[mug]

its both ways...

men with strong genes killed the weak ones

but women also selected for strong genes...

it depends on the society and culture in which your ancestors lived which if you are alive today your ancestors were badasses.

this video explains it well

 

[Olivecel]

100% true. Truth be told, women choose looks and sexual abilities>strength. The strongest men way back then were ogres. It’s not very often today women choose an ogre over a chad or even pretty-boy. Women never chose to be with the ogre, the ogre just killed the weaker men and took the woman, and naturally the woman had to accept that. Now that it’s a world of options, obviously she chooses a more attractive guy even if he is a bit weaker than the ogre next to him who would probably kill him in a life-death situation.

 

[Olivecel]

Bump

 

[Deleted member 45120]

Most of the times women just don't know what they fucking want. One day they like this, the other they hate it. It's hard to understand their emotional shift from a man's perspective but it's fucking annoying.

 

[infini]

Didn't know women had a choice in mating partners preference until the 1960's

 

[klip11]

Didn't know women had a choice in mating partners preference until the 1960's

My grandmother was born in 1936

 

[disillusioned]

Masculine men are gross abominations that would've gone extinct without rape

There is absolutely nothing aesthetically pleasing about these big ogres. Nobody, neither men nor women, finds these high-testosterone monsters even remotely attractive. The femboy pheno (basically the cute guys you see in most anime/manga) is what 99% of women want. My conspiracy theory is...

looksmax.org

Masculinity is a sub-human incel trait

It's a way for ogres to compensate for their lack of attractiveness by basically brute-forcing their way out of inceldom, or at least it would've been during past eras of history. It's useless in modern times where that sort of behavior will merely alienate you from society and make you look...

looksmax.org

 

[mrdouchebag]

Most men reproduced throughout history, it's only nowadays that more and more men are left out.

Women now have police, firefighters and soldiers to protect them. They have welfare to provide them some money/food even if they are total fuckups. And they are now working and make some money to sustain themselves. Plus a lot of other societal benefits only available to the female population to give them a boost socially and professionally.

The benefits of being with a subpar man aren't as big now as they were in the past.

 

[MediterraneanApollo]

it makes sense evolutionary wise though
you brag or even lie about your status, actions, slays and AS LONG as no one calls you out you practically won the battle
we are and always will remain animals, no one cares if you cheated - a won battle is a win
that's why women also choose chad, they see him and just assume by his looks that he has dominance, status and takes action
the only question is why does the "quiet and mysterious" chad slay? might be that his aesthetical appearance overpowers every expectation on female side and she begs for his excellent genes to procreate with

 

[foidrapist]

Holy cope! No it isn't like that. It is found that hunter gatherers were actually very peaceful compared to other animals and homicide was very low. Also it is proven that adult individuals raraly died because of enviromental factors such as predators. 60% if children survived to 15yo and out of them 80% survived to 45yo. That means the only way the rate can be so low is through the majority of men being incel or having sex with not-ovulating females (when the desire for low dimorphic males is higher).

 

[CMD]

good logic but wrong idea its intellectual genes that forced themselves on women, especially in asia and curryland, where ugly indian and asian nerds were rejected by foids, but they used their iq to build weapons to create a civilization and subjagate all foids and induce arranged marriage

 

[Deleted member 30521]

Water.

 

[moreplatesmoreweigh]

 

[MexicanShortHotGuy]

In farming matriarchal societies, this was especially true. When dominant men were nomad pastoralists and agriculture men were this weak and cucked to be BTFO for superior Chad genes.

In hunter-gatherer societies, there was like this pacifist patriarchy with rigid gender roles and with enough land and food to live.

But yeah, superior genes are for matriarchal societies and inferior genes are for (REAL) patriarchy, not FAKE-ASS patriarchies with matriarchal characteristics.

 

[Shahnameh]

Yea womens perception of aesthetics is disgraceful, ive received complements on my subpar features numerous times from women. They have no biological subconscious for choosing the right genes. I dont get why people are still coping about some of this shit, most of these tropes come from redpillers also who are trying to sell PUA courses.