Worth it to pay €16.5k for Ramieri/Marianetti or go with Medipol (Dr. Özkan)?

[Germanmaxx]

I’m planning a combined rhinoplasty and sliding genioplasty and comparing two options:


1. Ramieri + Marianetti (Italy):
Top-tier reputation, asking ~€16.5k. Known for extremely refined, natural-looking results.


2. Medipol (Dr. Özkan, Turkey):
A surgeon who performs both rhinoplasty and advanced genioplasty. Cost ~€7.5k. He’s active in international microsurgery societies and uses advanced 3D planning. Seems experienced with both projection and contouring.


My facial goals (mainly lower third):
Chin projection: +4–5 mm
Chin vertical length: +2–3 mm
Chin width (horizontal widening): +2–4 mm
Symmetry correction (my right side is stronger)
Straighten nose. Soft nasal hump smoothing + mild refinement of tip
Goal is to look stronger and more balanced, while still very natural and not overdone.

Main concern:
Will Medipol (Dr. Özkan) deliver results at a similar level to the Italian duo, or is it worth paying double for Ramieri/Marianetti in this case?

 

[key]

Marianetti is overrated, only concern I'd have is with genio, your chin in full of nerve endings and it requires a skilled maxfac to get right and not leave you with permanent nerve damage, also does Ozkan have any before an afters, I couldn't find any

 

[lurking truecel]

Marianetti is overrated, only concern I'd have is with genio, your chin in full of nerve endings and it requires a skilled maxfac to get right and not leave you with permanent nerve damage, also does Ozkan have any before an afters, I couldn't find any

He has some cadaver in his garage

 

[Germanmaxx]

Marianetti is overrated, only concern I'd have is with genio, your chin in full of nerve endings and it requires a skilled maxfac to get right and not leave you with permanent nerve damage, also does Ozkan have any before an afters, I couldn't find any

No i havent found any before after pics of Özkan Genio. But i will ask Medipol for some after i send them the 3D scan of my jaw and chin. They can do a 3d Simulation of the Genio at Medipol.

 

[Germanmaxx]

He has some cadaver in his garage

Whys that? Do you think the Turkish doctor will be able to perform a good operation without making my nose look gay?

 

[lurking truecel]

Whys that? Do you think the Turkish doctor will be able to perform a good operation without making my nose look gay?

He will make it look botched

 

[Germanmaxx]

He will make it look botched

you got some recommendations?

 

[lurking truecel]

you got some recommendations?

Go to korea

 

[LEFORT17]

Go to korea

xd

 

[Germanmaxx]

I jsut have a crooked nose and need a sharper nose tip thats all. My nose shape is perfect. I think any doctor with eyes i gonna manage that

He will make it look botched

My nose shape is already perfect — I just need the crookedness corrected and a slightly sharper tip. I believe any doctor with a half a brain will be able to handle that

 

[lurking truecel]

I jsut have a crooked nose and need a sharper nose tip thats all. My nose shape is perfect. I think any doctor with eyes i gonna manage that

My nose shape is already perfect — I just need the crookedness corrected and a slightly sharper tip. I believe any doctor with a half a brain will be able to handle that

Sharper tip is hard, esp if thick skin

 

[Lefor3Laser]

Marianetti is overrated, only concern I'd have is with genio, your chin in full of nerve endings and it requires a skilled maxfac to get right and not leave you with permanent nerve damage, also does Ozkan have any before an afters, I couldn't find any

Yep, now imagine the people who cut their chin in half (widening wise), i would imagine that there's more nerver damage and reatachment of the muscles would be extremely hard.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Choose based on the rhinoplasty results you like best. Genio is not complicated if the surgeon has experience with it.
However I have seen lots of botched genios by surgeons who don'd do it often.

 

[Germanmaxx]

Choose based on the rhinoplasty results you like best. Genio is not complicated if the surgeon has experience with it.
However I have seen lots of botched genios by surgeons who don'd do it often.

okey thanks

 

[AustrianMogger]

I’m planning a combined rhinoplasty and sliding genioplasty and comparing two options:


1. Ramieri + Marianetti (Italy):
Top-tier reputation, asking ~€16.5k. Known for extremely refined, natural-looking results.


2. Medipol (Dr. Özkan, Turkey):
A surgeon who performs both rhinoplasty and advanced genioplasty. Cost ~€7.5k. He’s active in international microsurgery societies and uses advanced 3D planning. Seems experienced with both projection and contouring.


My facial goals (mainly lower third):
Chin projection: +4–5 mm
Chin vertical length: +2–3 mm
Chin width (horizontal widening): +2–4 mm
Symmetry correction (my right side is stronger)
Straighten nose. Soft nasal hump smoothing + mild refinement of tip
Goal is to look stronger and more balanced, while still very natural and not overdone.

Main concern:
Will Medipol (Dr. Özkan) deliver results at a similar level to the Italian duo, or is it worth paying double for Ramieri/Marianetti in this case?

16.5k for rhino + genio??
Get a genio with giant and do rhino somewhere else or just do a standard genio for 3k and rhino for 6k max.

 

[blackbill]

you got some recommendations?

did you ask dr.burak ercin? i think he is leader in Turkish field

 

[LEFORT17]

He has some cadaver in his garage

ramieri hard overpricing genio tho

 

[adarsh arya]

ramieri hard overpricing genio tho

How about Dr.richardson ?

 

[recessedtexan]

16.5k for rhino + genio??
Get a genio with giant and do rhino somewhere else or just do a standard genio for 3k and rhino for 6k max.

Standard genio for 3k ? Do you live in the slums of Pakistan for a genio to cost you this little

 

[AustrianMogger]

Standard genio for 3k ? Do you live in the slums of Pakistan for a genio to cost you this little

Austria, germany, france etc. Local surgeons that is Standard price.
Bimax is < 10k here

 

[recessedtexan]

Austria, germany, france etc. Local surgeons that is Standard price.
Bimax is < 10k here

atp Europe is basically a third world continent

 

[AustrianMogger]

atp Europe is basically a thirld world continent

Brother what are you rambeling

 

[recessedtexan]

Brother what are you rambeling

I'm just shocked at how cheap it is

 

[AustrianMogger]

I'm just shocked at how cheap it is

I mean ramieri does a custom genio. Sliding genio is something different

 

[recessedtexan]

I mean ramieri does a custom genio. Sliding genio is something different

I know I'm talking about sliding genio. it costs 7-11k where I live

 

[AustrianMogger]

I know I'm talking about sliding genio. it costs 7-11k where I live

Where you from us ?

 

[recessedtexan]

Where you from us ?

nah Montreal

 

[tweaqo]

I know I'm talking about sliding genio. it costs 7-11k where I live

Just cus it’s expensive doesn’t mean it’s good.

UK, US, Canadian surgeons all overpriced and many are butchers or are super conservative.

Europe mogs for maxillofacial surgery

 

[LEFORT17]

I mean ramieri does a custom genio. Sliding genio is something different

ist das selbe

 

[LEFORT17]

Just cus it’s expensive doesn’t mean it’s good.

UK, US, Canadian surgeons all overpriced and many are butchers or are super conservative.

Europe mogs for maxillofacial surgery

a 16yo kid here got genio in france for 400 euros. i swear ramieri or pagnoni couldnt have done it better

 

[tweaqo]

a 16yo kid here got genio in france for 400 euros. i swear ramieri or pagnoni couldnt have done it better

Lol no way.

Can u find the thread bro?

 

[AustrianMogger]

Lol no way.

Can u find the thread bro?

Ramieri seems very unfriendly tb

 

[tweaqo]

Ramieri seems very unfriendly tb

I’ve heard the complete opposite, he’s supposed to be very sweet and listens very well…

I’ve heard the opposite about Raffaini, and I’ve spoken with Pagnoni twice and both times he was vaping and cuts you off mid sentence

 

[AustrianMogger]

I’ve heard the complete opposite, he’s supposed to be very sweet and listens very well…

I’ve heard the opposite about Raffaini, and I’ve spoken with Pagnoni twice and both times he was vaping and cuts you off mid sentence

Vaping ??

 

[AustrianMogger]

I’ve heard the complete opposite, he’s supposed to be very sweet and listens very well…

I’ve heard the opposite about Raffaini, and I’ve spoken with Pagnoni twice and both times he was vaping and cuts you off mid sentence

Idk. There was one thread where someone here complained about him.

 

[tweaqo]

Vaping ??

Yeah like e cigarettes lol

Idk. There was one thread where someone here complained about him.

that honestly surprised me… everywhere ive heard he is super nice

 

[recessedtexan]

Just cus it’s expensive doesn’t mean it’s good.

UK, US, Canadian surgeons all overpriced and many are butchers or are super conservative.

Europe mogs for maxillofacial surgery

Yeah I know. I have had a genio and the surgeon was really conservative

 

[Jeremy Meeks]

atp Europe is basically a third world continent

No, Europeans mogg to Gandy heaven when it comes to jaw surgery cheaper(big 3 excluded) + better results

 

[recessedtexan]

No, Europeans mogg to Gandy heaven when it comes to jaw surgery cheaper(big 3 excluded) + better results

what's the big 3 ?

 

[Jeremy Meeks]

what's the big 3 ?

Raffaini, Pagnoni and Ramieri all Italian but I’ve seen increasingly bad reviews with them and they are expensive as fuck. The reason they are known is that they are asthetics focused and Ramieri or Pagnoni (can’t be bothered to check) works with the only truly blackpilled implant designer who also does other stuff RealSurgerymax (can’t be bothered to fact check and research more since I can’t hardmaxx currently , do your own research if you want to fact check this)

 

[adarsh arya]

how much for sliding genio ???

I mean ramieri does a custom genio. Sliding genio is something different

 

[LEFORT17]

how much for sliding genio ???

10k

 

[AustrianMogger]

10k

Where ?

 

[AustrianMogger]

10k

Austria ?