The Steppe ancestry came before the Persians even existed. The Persians existed since a few centuries before Christ, and the Steppe people came even centuries before them. They came from Central Asia, and not from West Asia, which is where Persia is located.
South Asians have much more steppe ancestry than Iranians lmao, the reason Iranians are lighter is because they lack the South Asian hunter gatherer dna unique to South Asia, south Asians are a mix of steppe, Iranian hunter gatherers, and south Asian hunter gatherer DNA, the first two groups being west Eurasian and the latter being east Eurasian. There isn’t actually much direct Persian ancestry in any Indians, just Iran HG which looks similar to the ZNF ancestry found in Persians. However Persians also have ANF ancestry which has lighter skin.
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Spot-on response! The abo monkey blood is deadly for the pheno.
Indians won over for PakistanisSpot-on response! The abo monkey blood is deadly for the pheno.
No!Indians won over for Pakistanis
Indians won
I’ve heard that gangetic hg actually produces different phenotypes than the southern sahg ancestry, is this true?Spot-on response! The abo monkey blood is deadly for the pheno.
Basically think of it like this, take an Iranian vs a guy who’s half white half black, the mixed race dude technically has more white ancestry, but because his black half is so divergent from west eurasians(Europeans and middle easterners) he is more genetically distant and phenotypically different from a white guy than some light skinned Lebanese dude, Iranians are basically completely middle eastern, and that’s why they are lighter, not due to steppe admixture
If you are Iranian just know that you are firmly middle eastern and not European in any way, you simply have an Aryanized culture from the proto indo aryans. You are ethnic
for americans, and even for raciologists like gunther race is defined by phenotype, so if you have caucasian-passing cranium and lighter features that can be found in europe you are unconditionally white, most of people ethnics with inferiority complex here glaze are white
you can easily become white passing with good effort there are countless guides on here, obviously with good starting point
If you are not very close genetically to northwest/northern euros you are not white.
Doesn't matter if you are some tajik mutt with 48% steppe dna
countless stuff, skin bleaching (water advice), framemaxxing to get better shoulder broadness, lemons on hair or bleaching them for light brown hair, changing the color of eyebrows and making lashes pop out more. narrowing your face for dolichocephaly through cosmetic procedures,
️ving for better proportions, puberty enhancement for better bone development
countless stuff, skin bleaching (water advice), framemaxxing to get better shoulder broadness, lemons on hair or bleaching them for light brown hair, changing the color of eyebrows and making lashes pop out more. narrowing your face for dolichocephaly through cosmetic procedures,
Not really no, white= European, that’s how it works irl
depends on your hair texture and your hair’s strength as well as its health, also lemon’s effect on hair can be reversed with good care
what are you on bruh there ate countless regions in my country (russia) that are in asia (tatarstan, bashkortostan or caucasus) where people are asians yet many of them are white-passing
If they cluster with white people genetically then they are white, otherwise no white passing people aren’t white all the time. Genotype≠phenotype
Aim to be as good looking as you can, but why abandon your genetic and cultural heritage for the desire to be “white” you are firmly middle eastern in every way. And you should imbrace that is my point, don’t pretend you are the same as Europeans like many Iranians do
genotype (polygenotype to be exact) has little to no unchangeable influence on phenotype because most traits can be changed early in development during childhood, in theory you can make an ethnic (syrian or persian) child be white passing if he is born with good facial harmony (that is purely genetic). race in most countries where its relevant is defined by phenotype, in america white passing iranian would be treated the same as white passing italian
because of racepill and JBW? if you wanna have a good life you need to be white-passing or have an appeal to europeans, middle easterners can and should try to become white-passing if they want to have a better quality of life in the west
Fair enough, I just have a different perspective on race in general. I’m proud of being Pakistani for example and my ancestors did do a lot of cool shit. I would rather be the best looking version of my race and be paired with the best looking women of my race than just give all that up to be accepted by euros
RACE IS PHENOTYPE, IE haplogroup doesn’t make someone white at all, epigenetics (that are mostly cope and irrelevant tho), genetics clusters are retarded, austrians are barely germanic on clusters yet are treated as germanics, phenotypes and looks are the only thing that determines your race
ethnics from many MENA countries with good base through some procedures and high effort can become white passing and they should so because you arent blackpilled if you arent a jbwpiller bc racepill is water for anyone who has knowledge on anything what matters in dating
Never mentioned haplogroups at all im talking sbt admixture and how close groups cluster together, also austrians are germanics as germanic like bavarians and most southern germans are they just have siginificsnt continental celt admixture like east germans have significant slavic admixture
what are you on its common knowledge that most austrians are barely germanic genetically and have more alpine slavic and italic origins, slight genetic differences between two extremely similar european ethno-linguistic groups dont dictate your looks at all
K shami is literally Syrian wdym he's at most white adjacent like all the french rapebabies
Bro as long as we’re staying chavs it doesn’t matter
Bro what you're saying if you look white you are white this is braindead
thats literally what im trying to say to them, they say that you cant be white because you arent born in europe thats retarded
At least you are correctly repping corded ware brah. I hate when euros call themselves Aryan because the only people who called themselves that were eastern offshoots of corded ware that thoroughly mixed culturally and genetically with south Asians and some iranic peoples.
That's what matters lmao, if you descend from european peoples
u ignore epigenetics and climate adaptation lmao its ridiculous
Race evolved from climate/geographic adaptation and selection based off favorable traits in the region bro I know which is why there are races and very discernable genetic differences
Tbh i think the word aryan is still somewhat correct in regards to modern euros, a lot of the aryan groups like sintasha or scythians are more closer to modern northwestern and eastern euros genetically, its just that the intial pre history theories of the racial anthropologists during the 20th and 19th century were wrong
True but just because a population is related to another doesn’t mean they are the same, aryans were specifically an eastern branch that broke off, and their descendants aren’t European, so why even insist on using the term. Like the cultural aspect of being an “Aryan” didn’t exist in corded ware and bell beakers, so why even use it as a European. Makes things needlessly confusing. I am not responsible for whatever my cousin does, and I don’t get to claim his achievements
Austrians have substantial genetic affinity to other germans esp southern germans like bavaria youre retarded if you think its barely ang, esp since they cluster far more with other germanics than they do eith other groups despite significsnt centrsl european admixture of other groups which id why we consider them germanic
