Would I look above average with cantho+fat grafting?

I'm not going to let you get away with talking nonsense to people who are trying to improve themselves. I'm someone who's really invested in this subject I'm rarely wrong, and I'm very receptive to constructive criticism. But I hate criticism that's based on nothing and is blatantly wrong, and I hate it even more when people like you talk nonsense with such confidence and being rude and toxic at any reply and then copy exactly what I said.

Makes better excuses, asshole
buddy i was right still i js misunderstood what you were saying

he doesnt need additional support to be able to get a cantho

but yes he would ascend from infra implants
 
the lips are like the most realistically achievable thing imo :ROFLMAO:
no lip surgery is not advanced at all like lip lifts/corner lifts all leave scars
 
no lip surgery is not advanced at all like lip lifts/corner lifts all leave scars
i feel like maybe not as dramatic as the morph, but with filler botox and literally everything under the sun he could get close enough. regardless some width is better than none ig. still laughing at the mention of jaw for eyes tho :ROFLMAO:
 
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i feel like maybe not as dramatic as the morph, but with filler botox and literally everything under the sun he could get close enough. regardless some width is better than none ig. still laughing at the mention of jaw for eyes tho :ROFLMAO:
lip filler is the most migrating filler in the face
 
buddy i was right still i js misunderstood what you were saying

he doesnt need additional support to be able to get a cantho

but yes he would ascend from infra implants
i feel bad for the poeple who will meet you
you such a retard cant even admit you are wrong
cant even apologize
 
i feel bad for the poeple who will meet you
you such a retard cant even admit you are wrong
cant even apologize
where was i wrong????

youre a premium ragebaiter rhat doesnt say a counter argument and instead calls me a retard
 
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implant yes but you need others things send better photo

It would be stupid of me to recommend something to you without hesitation based on just one picture.

and not lafort bro

open camera 150 iso 1|150

back camera zoom 1.5 meters away with a room in natural light

profil and front and a pic were you pull your cheeks to the sides
not natural lighting because its evening where i live, brutal pics but idc, because i need advice:feelswah:
 

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not natural lighting because its evening where i live, brutal pics but idc, because i need advice:feelswah:
wow really much better
 
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Your already above average looking btw
 
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lip filler is the most migrating filler in the face
if placed strategically and when migrated disolved and refilled its worth it, regardless he will not be getting insane mls. filler is so demonised on here lol, but i appreciate your argument its valid.
 
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not natural lighting because its evening where i live, brutal pics but idc, because i need advice:feelswah:
Infra-orbital implants with canthoplasty

Infra, if you really want to go all the way

But canthoplasty And something for the supra
 
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not natural lighting because its evening where i live, brutal pics but idc, because i need advice:feelswah:
You know, your sclera show in mm ? because the photo looks a bit blurry so I couldn't really see

But you're really not ugly, man.
 
You know, your sclera show in mm ? because the photo looks a bit blurry so I couldn't really see

But you're really not ugly, man.
idk, its a lot tho probably like 1-2mm, thanks for the compliment bro
 
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Infra-orbital implants with canthoplasty

Infra, if you really want to go all the way

But canthoplasty And something for the supra
see you know im right

fucking idiot

he CAN get cantho without additional support
 
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idk, its a lot tho probably like 1-2mm, thanks for the compliment bro
If you choose infra you can can
Choose the pexy over the plasty

But if you really don't want to go all the way, Plasty might be enough Pexy is more structural.
 
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where was i wrong????

youre a premium ragebaiter rhat doesnt say a counter argument and instead calls me a retard
I've already explained in detail in 3 replies + the comment you left on my profile .

Arguing is pointless now. If you had come with good intentions and responded appropriately, we might have had a constructive conversation. You just lie and whine and And when you see that you are wrong, instead of admitting it, you copy me and lie even more .
I said that fat grafting is not enough for support
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instead of expressing to disagree in a normal way you call me dumbass , because You thought that when I talked about support I was talking about CANTHO TOO LOL.
Later on, you recommend fat grafting and canthoplasty to him about His question , '' will fat grafting and canthoplasty make me look above average? ''
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lying several times throughout the thread saying you never recommended it
to later you' realize how stupid and retard you are and copy exactly what I said because you know you have no knowledge on the
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so next time when you want reply me lower your tone instead of doing all this bs to copy me later and cant even admit you are in the wrong and copy me +the biggest lies I've ever seen
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Stop being a fag nigga and stop replying to me If it's not to apologize and say

"sorry, you were right, I shouldn't have continued this charade I was wrong you were right"
 
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If you choose infra you can can
Choose the pexy over the plasty

But if you really don't want to go all the way, Plasty might be enough Pexy is more structural.
I've read that pexy can also change canthal tilt to a degree, the surgeon that I had a consultation with also told me that it's possible, I have canthal tilt asymmetry, one of my eyes is really positively tilted, the other eye is a tad bit positively tilted, I'm just wondering if pexy will be enough for me. I kinda discovered that I even had this problem like a few days ago when another user pointed it out.
 
I've read that pexy can also change canthal tilt to a degree, the surgeon that I had a consultation with also told me that it's possible, I have canthal tilt asymmetry, one of my eyes is really positively tilted, the other eye is a tad bit positively tilted, I'm just wondering if pexy will be enough for me. I kinda discovered that I even had this problem like a few days ago when another user pointed it out.
Ofc it can but are you talking about a canthopexy alone or with other procedures

Is it a severe or mild or light i don’t really understand what you mean by tab sorry

And Was he transparent about how long this would last?
 
I've already explained in detail in 3 replies + the comment you left on my profile .

Arguing is pointless now. If you had come with good intentions and responded appropriately, we might have had a constructive conversation. You just lie and whine and And when you see that you are wrong, instead of admitting it, you copy me and lie even more .

Stop being a fag nigga and stop replying to me If it's not to apologize and say

"sorry, you were right, I shouldn't have continued this charade I was wrong you were right"
i said fat grafting for the uee you fucking retard

and your claim that fat g is not enough for support is false because he can get a cplasty right now with a good surgeon
 
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OP you can get a cantho without prior support however post op you may have complications that can be corrected with a SOOF lift or a midface lift
 
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Thx for FINNALY admitting how stupid you are 🙏🏾

Those who see my replies will see that I asked for more photos regarding his case to be certain of my decision.

I Happy you FINNALY stop your Clownery 👍🏾
 
Thx for FINNALY admitting how stupid you are 🙏🏾
youre js projecting and tryna hide the fact you quite literally switched up and agreed with me in which you called me a retard for claiming for
 
the lips are like the most realistically achievable thing imo :ROFLMAO:
Don't pay attention to his bs he love spreading misinformation .He knows nothing about surgery.

Glad I blocked him
 
Don't pay attention to his bs he love spreading misinformation .He knows nothing about surgery.

Glad I blocked him
wait am i the tard, are you agreeing with me
 
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you're such an insufferable tard, "misinformation" and no information was given. how on earth do people like you get anywhere in life :ROFLMAO:
Ok tell me what information you want

And tell me which of my points was wrong, and I'll give you my sources and proof and témoignages

Tell me " You're wrong about that. "
And I will prove it to you with all the evidence ,

Several people tried to attack my thesis without any basis, but in the end they never succeeded in proving me wrong.

And don't say "you were too mean so you're wrong 😡"

So where am I wrong?
 
Ok tell me what information you want

And tell me which of my points was wrong, and I'll give you my sources and proof and témoignages

Tell me " You're wrong about that. "
And I will prove it to you with all the evidence ,

Several people tried to attack my thesis without any basis, but in the end they never succeeded in proving me wrong.

And don't say "you were too mean so you're wrong 😡"

So where am I wrong?
you were wrong about him not being able to fix his nct without prior infraorbital rim implant support
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If you choose infra you can can
Choose the pexy over the plasty

But if you really don't want to go all the way, Plasty might be enough Pexy is more structural.
 
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wait am i the tard, are you agreeing with me
Your point about Botox is that in specific areas migration can be avoided, I agree, but to some extent migration is always inevitable.

I agree, it's over-demonized, and people act as if things will change within three months.

And I told you not to pay attention to that kid because I saw him change his story like 5 times .And lie several times

He talked about: cantho fat grafting

After I corrected it, he talked about cantho and implants.

And after that, on my profile : He spoke about soof and midface lift :feelshaha::feelshaha:

And in his latest version, I think he said it didn't matter and that it wasn't a vector problems+ no sclera show ...and then admitted that I was right by showing him a photo of a visible sclera show.:feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:
 
You will need a better support than just fat graft to fix your nct
He doesn't have nct bozo and NCT it can't be seen by a photo
You need to see it in motion
Nct is extremely rare and other severe deformities/unideal ratios follow it
 
He doesn't have nct bozo and NCT it can't be seen by a photo
You need to see it in motion
Nct is extremely rare and other severe deformities/unideal ratios follow it
Look the reply boyo

And look what I wrote to him last
 
Look the reply boyo

And look what I wrote to him last
Literally no point on with my reply
I just said he doesn't have nct he clearly has also "highest zygos/cheekbones" literally that means the worst he can has in natural tilt
It looks to nct because you haven't see a real NCT
Negative hooding doesn't mean NCT
But I don't disagree that he's retard and doesn't know what he needs
NCT is like billy zane, Clint Eastwood only those i can remember now
Hexum doesn't have NCT before you say it
 
Literally no point on with my reply
I just said he doesn't have nct he clearly has also "highest zygos/cheekbones" literally that means the worst he can has in natural tilt
It looks to nct because you haven't see a real NCT
Negative hooding doesn't mean NCT
But I don't disagree that he's retard and doesn't know what he needs
NCT is like billy zane, Clint Eastwood only those i can remember now
Hexum doesn't have NCT before you say it
Dude, I love discussing topics like this and I don't like responding negatively to people for no reason.

1. The point you made about the negative canthal tilt not being detectable in photos is incorrect; I have no idea where you found that information.

According to the sources I have, specialists say to pay attention to the camera angle and distortion etc I think you confused it with that. That's why I always ask for additional and better photos, and if you had seen the reply, you would have seen that I asked for additional photos.

2. when I said that it was common to have a negative canthal tilt?
He doesn't have nct bozo and NCT it can't be seen by a photo
You need to see it in motion
Nct is extremely rare and other severe deformities/unideal ratios follow it

Regarding your argument about the negative canthal tilt, which is impossible to see in a photo, I would very much like to see your sources, please Because it seems interesting to me, I've really never heard of it anywhere, maybe I'm wrong

And for the last time, check all the replies entirely.
 
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Dude, I love discussing topics like this and I don't like responding negatively to people for no reason.

1. The point you made about the negative canthal tilt not being detectable in photos is incorrect; I have no idea where you found that information.

According to the sources I have, specialists say to pay attention to the camera angle and distortion etc I think you confused it with that. That's why I always ask for additional and better photos, and if you had seen the reply, you would have seen that I asked for additional photos.

2. when I said that it was common to have a negative canthal tilt?


Regarding your argument about the negative canthal tilt, which is impossible to see in a photo, I would very much like to see your sources, please Because it seems interesting to me, I've really never heard of it anywhere, maybe I'm wrong

And for the last time, check all the replies entirely.
I mean bro I've NCT like Billy Zane and Clint Eastwood
I mean they look weird and you know it but
You can see that Billy Zane, ian somerhalder(he doesn't have that much clearly NCT but ok), Cristiano Ronaldo (he also doesn't have but in most pics look like prey) all of then tend to have lower set ears and zygos/cheekbones so your lorbs also play a role but most humans don't have developed lorbs,infras but your set of your zygos and temples projection help on you canthal tilt
Fir example sean has pct but also ten to have the highest zygos next to his eyes but in the other hand Jordan Barrett has meduim/low set zygos (also jaw length plays a role) but he still has extremely good pct because of his temples projection and of course his orbits help as to
Tom cruise have extremely highest zygos to but his eyes look more to slightly pct because his orbits are not the best
Anyway
NCT comes from bone shaping, projection (I'm sure you know it) but there are a lot of cases that case the 1 in billion and be diff than others
NCT still extremely rare and is smth tha you have from the day you arrived
I don't think he has NCT that much it looks ok
Support and some canthopexy will make it clearly easy that he doesn't have NCT he has that illusion NCT because if his periorbital like Hexum, lex Luthor from smallvile
NCT it can't be changed the max you can go is natural if you're lucky with the best surgeons
 
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I mean bro I've NCT like Billy Zane and Clint Eastwood
I mean they look weird and you know it but
You can see that Billy Zane, ian somerhalder(he doesn't have that much clearly NCT but ok), Cristiano Ronaldo (he also doesn't have but in most pics look like prey) all of then tend to have lower set ears and zygos/cheekbones so your lorbs also play a role but most humans don't have developed lorbs,infras but your set of your zygos and temples projection help on you canthal tilt
Fir example sean has pct but also ten to have the highest zygos next to his eyes but in the other hand Jordan Barrett has meduim/low set zygos (also jaw length plays a role) but he still has extremely good pct because of his temples projection and of course his orbits help as to
Tom cruise have extremely highest zygos to but his eyes look more to slightly pct because his orbits are not the best
Anyway
NCT comes from bone shaping, projection (I'm sure you know it) but there are a lot of cases that case the 1 in billion and be diff than others
NCT still extremely rare and is smth tha you have from the day you arrived
I don't think he has NCT that much it looks ok
Support and some canthopexy will make it clearly easy that he doesn't have NCT he has that illusion NCT because if his periorbital like Hexum, lex Luthor from smallvile
NCT it can't be changed the max you can go is natural if you're lucky with the best surgeons
I'm glad we've found common ground.
But I'm not going to start arguing about the severity of the NCT from celebrity, I'm not familiar with, and as you said, spotting the NCT with a photo is impossible, you understand that watching videos hours of video of them isn't that optimise .

I'm glad you were able to see the replies and that you saw that I asked OP several times for photos . I agree that the photos he sent initially were really not very good, especially the angle that's why I asked him to take photos with specific settings.

Regarding your statement that a good doctor could fix a negative canthal tilt with canthopexy , I agree only if it's a combined with other surgeries For example, that's why I recommended Infra with pexy to OP because it would be more conservative and it will improve his lack of mid-face projection, which is obvious, you only have to look at it His latest photos .

Honestly, OP isn't really ugly, I think @Fridx and you both noticed that, and his eyes aren't his biggest flaw. The only problem I might see from the latest photos with his eyes maybe a lack of a part of midface projection and sclera show. That's why I recommended canthoplasty it would have enhanced his eyes the way he wanted, and implants if he wanted to go all the way. On these two points, I'm Who jumps out at me? . Regarding the implants, I said if he wanted to go all the way because that's the point where I'm unsure, since OP has really good bones, but there's one area that look recess a bit But maybe that's just my interpretation maybe OP has such good bone that some part seems recess. 🤷🏾‍♂️

But the part where you said we can't see the negative canthal tilt with photos really intrigues me because I've never really heard of that. Again, I'd like to see your sources plz .

And , do you agree with

Canthoplasty
Canthopexy infra if he wanna go all the way ?

And I also think there's something about his supra

What would you have advised him if you disagree with me? Because it wasn't really clear, or you just wanted to specify about NCT but you have no objection to what I said. ?
 
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I'm glad we've found common ground.
But I'm not going to start arguing about the severity of the NCT from celebrity, I'm not familiar with, and as you said, spotting the NCT with a photo is impossible, you understand that watching videos hours of video of them isn't that optimise .

I'm glad you were able to see the replies and that you saw that I asked OP several times for photos . I agree that the photos he sent initially were really not very good, especially the angle that's why I asked him to take photos with specific settings.

Regarding your statement that a good doctor could fix a negative canthal tilt with canthopexy , I agree only if it's a combined with other surgeries For example, that's why I recommended Infra with pexy to OP because it would be more conservative and it will improve his lack of mid-face projection, which is obvious, you only have to look at it His latest photos .

Honestly, OP isn't really ugly, I think @Fridx and you both noticed that, and his eyes aren't his biggest flaw. The only problem I might see from the latest photos with his eyes maybe a lack of a part of midface projection and sclera show. That's why I recommended canthoplasty it would have enhanced his eyes the way he wanted, and implants if he wanted to go all the way. On these two points, I'm Who jumps out at me? . Regarding the implants, I said if he wanted to go all the way because that's the point where I'm unsure, since OP has really good bones, but there's one area that look recess a bit But maybe that's just my interpretation maybe OP has such good bone that some part seems recess. 🤷🏾‍♂️

But the part where you said we can't see the negative canthal tilt with photos really intrigues me because I've never really heard of that. Again, I'd like to see your sources plz .

And , do you agree with

Canthoplasty
Canthopexy infra if he wanna go all the way ?

And I also think there's something about his supra

What would you have advised him if you disagree with me? Because it wasn't really clear, or you just wanted to specify about NCT but you have no objection to what I said. ?
Nah literally it doesn't look like NCT to me, yeah i agree the parts you said but NCT like Billy Zane can't be fixed
I mean check linOOb I've a thread posted the other days that he got fixed his orbits for "hunter eyes" but still has NCT that weird look
I mean he can get implants,fta grafts canthopexy canthoplasty blepharoplasty sometimes lower eyelid retraction, repair ptosis lid I've post some threads also about this
Check this threads of mine to see what i mean about visible NCT eyes
But he literally can be fixed with surgeries it's not over for him
 
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Nah literally it doesn't look like NCT to me, yeah i agree the parts you said but NCT like Billy Zane can't be fixed
I mean check linOOb I've a thread posted the other days that he got fixed his orbits for "hunter eyes" but still has NCT that weird look
I mean he can get implants,fta grafts canthopexy canthoplasty blepharoplasty sometimes lower eyelid retraction, repair ptosis lid I've post some threads also about this
Check this threads of mine to see what i mean about visible NCT eyes
But he literally can be fixed with surgeries it's not over for him
Thanks man, I love talking to people like you

I always end on something new or gems, and I'll reads your treads later, but you seem to have a good knowledge of NCT.

Maybe there are things I don't know? And I'm still interested in your thing about NCT that can't be seen in photos
 
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Thanks man, I love talking to people like you

I always end on something new or gems, and I'll reads your treads later, but you seem to have a good knowledge of NCT.

Maybe there are things I don't know? And I'm still interested in your thing about NCT that can't be seen in photos
Yeah that's plays a big part of the angles and distance
You can see you're real CT from pics/clips with the back camera recorded by others like family photo or clips whatever if you're eyes look weird and sad then yes analyse your ratios and you understand that you have NCT or PCT
It's literally more easier in regular family photos to see it
For example my brother has PCT and next to him or anyone else it's visible that i have nct
But you need practice and tism to see it in milliseconds like me:forcedsmile::feelswhy::feelswah:
 
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Jesus what a tiny tiny mouth.

Anyways if you just clean up your skin to be blemish free, you would be above average consider most guys skin and the obesity rate.

Canto and fat graft would be good to.



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Dear good user,

Why waist time talking to a retard like him. He will never say anything that helps you advance in your goals.
 
Jesus what a tiny tiny mouth.

Anyways if you just clean up your skin to be blemish free, you would be above average consider most guys skin and the obesity rate.

Canto and fat graft would be good to.




Dear good user,

Why waist time talking to a retard like him. He will never say anything that helps you advance in your goals.
idk dude i js got ragebaited for like 2 hours lmao
 
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Ofc it can but are you talking about a canthopexy alone or with other procedures

Is it a severe or mild or light i don’t really understand what you mean by tab sorry

And Was he transparent about how long this would last?
canthopexy with fat grafting but fat grafting aint gonna do shit do shit for my canthal tilt anyways. I can dm you my eyes so you could see the difference
 
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canthopexy with fat grafting but fat grafting aint gonna do shit do shit for my canthal tilt anyways. I can dm you my eyes so you could see the difference
Ok
 

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