Would you rather be a 5’10 Chad (8/10) or a 6’4 LTN (4/10)

[DivineBeing]

Yes, at 5'6" you will have big trouble getting respect from men unless you are a fighter or jacked. But just being tall won't get you respect either. Yesterday we had a conversation with colleagues in the office. It was about filling a difficult position internally and it should be a man. A colleague of mine (around 5'9") said "How about Samuel (a 6'3" soyboy and not present in the conversation) he's a man, or should I say half a man, an authority figure he is really not." Many laughed.

5'9 soyboy making fun of 6'3 ubermensch

it's over for your colleague

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Nah, if your face is chad then you can be even a 5'6 and slay like crazy. Nothing can replace face potential.

This is a myth because I used to be a serious pretty boy and had ok success but it was never anything extreme like every weekend and I wasn't a twink either.

I got super attention but getting the lay required time, effort and even some finesse. Now I admit the US is much different from the UK and over there the girls are much more willing, as I did discover as I was over there, being approached on both my lays lol but I am very sure I would have yielded better results with the same face at 6'1

And remember this is me as a weak 5'8 so you can imagine at 5'6 what would be happening.

Sexual dimorphosm doesn't come in pretty eye areas and a cute smile. It's like tits and ass on a girl. The same way you would wifey one type of girl and smash a whole different other is the same way a girl will see you differently as a 'hunk' compared as a 'pretty boy'. To be sexy at 5'6-5'9 requires Amnesia level looks which is insanely high percentile. Most dudes that look good facially are HTN to Chadlite. Chads barely exist. Hence why this face can do the business at 5'6 stuff is pure nonsense.

 

[volcelfatcel]

Biggest blackpill about height is that netherlands is so tall because of sexual selection from women

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

hamza is simping for a 3/10 he aint no slayer

Why hamzas girls have been sub par ill have no idea.

His first one was like 4/10 and second 3.5/10

He has possibly shagged better though, but obviously there is no way of him proving that unless he takes out his selfie phone camera and takes a pic which I just don't see him doing for some reason.

My point anyway was it helped his success on YouTube. I wasn't really talking about chicks, but yes it is interesting that both his birds have been sub 5s. I can't quite work out why that is becsuse Liverpool isn't that dried up for talent and he has a 1/4 of a million subs with a decent face. I can see 6s and 7s being drawn to him with his height. They aren't gonna be all like 'no ew look at your eyes'

But it's whatever. Point remains it elevated his confidence. Can you honestly see him where he is now at sub 5'11? Real question?

 

[chance]

I started in mid 2020 pandemic because of pandemic and its what I've noticed

Nothing pretentious in it

no hate, but height is the least "underrated" thing on psl. I actually think we already had enough of threads over threads of manlets crying over this shit. fuck, outside psl itself there are communities deticated to this shit where ppl who are in the psl sphere interact with normies and end up blackpilling them, starting the same shit-cycle again and again. and honestly even if you talk abt it in a "academic aspect", that is studies, I still would disagree because eventually everything would boil down to manlets crying over this same shit.
dont get myself wrong, im 5'5. trying my best not to sound like a coping midget, but this shit is far away from being underrated. as salludon said: "Height is not just a looks multiplier, It’s an attractive trait on its own", but u gotta let that shit fuckin go.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Anyone saying the 6‘4 LTN is autistic . This is a perfect example iFood really think the left guy gets outslayed by the 3rd guy you need help and he’s not even a LTN

He's HTN so that's a poor example and they slay at the same right. Any difference would be irrelevant.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Of course it matters. But face is objectively more important. HTN average height will be more attractive than LTN or MTN tall guy. Height matters when the difference between 2 males faces is small or when they are in the same category. Of course some girls have preference toward height but irl i noticed that most of the time face is way more important (if you're not way below average height).

Average height on a night out is 5'11. You do realise this right? Because of heels?

 

[DivineBeing]

He's HTN so that's a poor example and they slay at the same right. Any difference would be irrelevant.

ur a black nigger

 

[DivineBeing]

Average height on a night out is 5'11. You do realise this right? Because of heels?

i was short at 6'1 in lifts now im a shut in rotter

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

no hate, but height is the least "underrated" thing on psl. I actually think we already had enough of threads over threads of manlets crying over this shit. fuck, outside psl itself there are communities deticated to this shit where ppl who are in the psl sphere interact with normies and end up blackpilling them, starting the same shit-cycle again and again. and honestly even if you talk abt it in a "academic aspect", that is studies, I still would disagree because eventually everything would boil down to manlets crying over this same shit.
dont get myself wrong, im 5'5. trying my best not to sound like a coping midget, but this shit is far away from being underrated. as salludon said: "Height is not just a looks multiplier, It’s an attractive trait on its own", but u gotta let that shit fuckin go.

Ok, but on a completely separate topic. I am getting LL at 5'8 and if I were 5'5 as you are, I would be looking into the same thing.

 

[M3R]

This is a myth because I used to be a serious pretty boy and had ok success but it was never anything extreme like every weekend and I wasn't a twink either.

I got super attention but getting the lay required time, effort and even some finesse. Now I admit the US is much different from the UK and over there the girls are much more willing, as I did discover as I was over there, being approached on both my lays lol but I am very sure I would have yielded better results with the same face at 6'1

And remember this is me as a weak 5'8 so you can imagine at 5'6 what would be happening.

Sexual dimorphosm doesn't come in pretty eye areas and a cute smile. It's like tits and ass on a girl. The same way you would wifey one type of girl and smash a whole different other is the same way a girl will see you differently as a 'hunk' compared as a 'pretty boy'. To be sexy at 5'6-5'9 requires Amnesia level looks which is insanely high percentile. Most dudes that look good facially are HTN to Chadlite. Chads barely exist. Hence why this face can do the business at 5'6 stuff is pure nonsense.

I live in EU. I have a friend who has chadlite face (more on on the lite side) and he's like 5'7/5'8, equivalent of 5'6 in US and he slays like crazy. To be honest he also has a good body and great social skills, but it doesn't change that he has the biggest lay count even than my taller friends who aren't bad looking either. Also most of his lays are at least average looking girls with a lot of above average.

You have to have height+face to be a slayer, one of by best friends is 6'2 and good frame but MTN face, the only attention he gets is from average or below average girls. With even HTN face he would probably be in a way better position.

 

[chance]

Ok, but on a completely separate topic. I am getting LL at 5'8 and if I were 5'5 as you are, I would be looking into the same thing.

u not getting LL. lol. neither am I.
u just young and insecure. it gets better with time. focus on other stuff.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

he also has a good body and great social skills

Exactly.

Remove his 'great social skills' and shall we see how he does? Lol.

Shorter guys need better 'chat' even if they are cute/hot/sexy whatever and MTN guys that are tall will get filtered out on face too, yes, unless girls are average

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

u not getting LL. lol. neither am I.
u just young and insecure. it gets better with time. focus on other stuff.

You don't know me bruv

I am no soft Zoomer

My internal strength is up there

 

[DivineBeing]

Ok, but on a completely separate topic. I am getting LL at 5'8 and if I were 5'5 as you are, I would be looking into the same thing.

the first SANE thought I have seen from you

 

[DivineBeing]

You don't know me bruv

I am no soft Zoomer

My internal strength is up there

yes us and @LooksOverAll are the only incels that need highly invasive surgeries to live a normal life

years of bullying and abuse prepared us for the worst types of suffering

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Exactly.

Remove his 'great social skills' and shall we see how he does? Lol.

Shorter guys need better 'chat' even if they are cute/hot/sexy whatever and MTN guys that are tall will get filtered out on face too, yes, unless girls are average

And you didn't even say good social skills, notice how you used the word 'great'

So even at Chadlite face he needed amazing finesse and game

Proving the importance of NTness and being seen as the 'trendy popular guy' even as someone attractive, because of your height being sub 5'11

 

[Deleted member 16989]

Ok, but on a completely separate topic. I am getting LL at 5'8 and if I were 5'5 as you are, I would be looking into the same thing.

Brah is gonna broke his legs over 178cm manlet height. Very wise decision from guy that has iq of 120

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Exactly.

Remove his 'great social skills' and shall we see how he does? Lol.

Shorter guys need better 'chat' even if they are cute/hot/sexy whatever and MTN guys that are tall will get filtered out on face too, yes, unless girls are average

Oh and just on this point bro

I think tall MTNs being filtered out by Stacey lites and some HTBs is irrelevant honestly.

Men find average looking women attractive and will smash as low as 4/10s and lower if they have less options

Add makeup and a good body to the equation and face really does pale into insignificance.

We as men value body far more

Women its face height shoulders dick and status

 

[chance]

You don't know me bruv

I am no soft Zoomer

My internal strength is up there

bet. godspeed then lad.

 

[M3R]

Exactly.

Remove his 'great social skills' and shall we see how he does? Lol.

Shorter guys need better 'chat' even if they are cute/hot/sexy whatever and MTN guys that are tall will get filtered out on face too, yes, unless girls are average

Yeah but also i probably think that his social skills are great because of how good looking he is (that's just reality, attractive people have it easier). He has probably more just "good" skills. Also attractive people generally have better social skills because people are drawn to them and they have it easier. I even see it on myself, i was autistic in the past, below average socially, but no one pointed it out because i'm above average looking and i was considered just mysterious for some reason.

 

[M3R]

And you didn't even say good social skills, notice how you used the word 'great'

So even at Chadlite face he needed amazing finesse and game

Proving the importance of NTness and being seen as the 'trendy popular guy' even as someone attractive, because of your height being sub 5'11

I mean he's not like trendy, extraverted dude. He just is very emotional, introverted(in a good way) but with good 1 on 1 skills and girls just gravitate toward him.

 

[M3R]

Oh and just on this point bro

I think tall MTNs being filtered out by Stacey lites and some HTBs is irrelevant honestly.

Men find average looking women attractive and will smash as low as 4/10s and lower if they have less options

Add makeup and a good body to the equation and face really does pale into insignificance.

We as men value body far more

Women its face height shoulders dick and status

Nah, speak for yourself. I'd prefer above average facially girl with normal body than average facially with great body. There are both types of men, mine is probably in minority, as i look at how my friend choose.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Nah, speak for yourself. I'd prefer above average facially girl with normal body than average facially with great body. There are both types of men, mine is probably in minority, as i look at how my friend choose.

These are hookups bro. We're not talking about your oneitis fantasies.

Yeah but also i probably think that his social skills are great because of how good looking he is (that's just reality, attractive people have it easier). He has probably more just "good" skills. Also attractive people generally have better social skills because people are drawn to them and they have it easier. I even see it on myself, i was autistic in the past, below average socially, but no one pointed it out because i'm above average looking and i was considered just mysterious for some reason.

I agree the feedback loop works in favour of good looking people. I felt mine improve too when I got better looking at around 16. 100%

 

[Deleted member 15441]

Lmk

5'10 chad obvi

question should have been 5'7-5'8 Chad. Now thats a harder one.

Height is EXTREMLY important once FACE looks thresholds or matched, and MOST guys have Normie faces middle bell curves.

ALL the taller 6'1-6'3 guys have hot girlfriends after college, I see it every day at apartment complex. All of them.

Simple Girl cannot get chad or chadlite, so instead of dating some 5'9 average joe, she chooses the 6'2 normie face. Who mogs no question.

Chad 1/1000
Chadlite 5/100
Tall normie-HTN 15/100.
--------------Top 15% Monopoly on dating

Normie-5'10=Becky/LTBecky girlfriends

 

[spark]

Why hamzas girls have been sub par ill have no idea.

His first one was like 4/10 and second 3.5/10

He has possibly shagged better though, but obviously there is no way of him proving that unless he takes out his selfie phone camera and takes a pic which I just don't see him doing for some reason.

My point anyway was it helped his success on YouTube. I wasn't really talking about chicks, but yes it is interesting that both his birds have been sub 5s. I can't quite work out why that is becsuse Liverpool isn't that dried up for talent and he has a 1/4 of a million subs with a decent face. I can see 6s and 7s being drawn to him with his height. They aren't gonna be all like 'no ew look at your eyes'

But it's whatever. Point remains it elevated his confidence. Can you honestly see him where he is now at sub 5'11? Real question?

Its a personality thing. He has a personality which makes it easier for him to be delusional. Imagine if this were your girlfriend

would you be able to confidently go out there and tell the world you are an alpha gigaslayer with great game without feeling like a total joke? Probably not.

 

[Deleted member 16288]

I truly believe Height is one of the most underrated things on the psl community, I really do

All you have to do is look at Red Pill YouTuber Hamza and you'll realise most of his 'confidence' was built on how tall he was. He'll definitely deny this reality, but I am sure if you look back at his journey, he only really started making moves with his body and grooming etc when he had that growth spurt.

How tall is he? Doesnt look that tall imo tbh

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

How tall is he? Doesnt look that tall imo tbh

6'2

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Its a personality thing. He has a personality which makes it easier for him to be delusional. Imagine if this were your girlfriend
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would you be able to confidently go out there and tell the world you are an alpha gigaslayer with great game without feeling like a total joke? Probably not.

I don't get it tbf

I really dont

She makes him look Chad

 

[Deleted member 16288]

He really did have a growth spurt
Miraculously saved from being a truecel

There was another Indonesian muslim guy on youtube that had the biggest puberty ascension i had seen to this day forgot his name

 

[horizontallytall]

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He really did have a growth spurt
Miraculously saved from being a truecel

There was another Indonesian muslim guy on youtube that had the biggest puberty ascension i had seen to this day forgot his name

All hormones in food making these fags with shit ass genetics taller .