You can't afford to lose, it will shape your psychology for the rest of your life if you don't maxx in your youth.

[Bushman]

I fell into the trap of Learned Helplessness in my late teens.

I am still trying to crawl out of it

 

[MoggerGaston]

I fell into the trap of Learned Helplessness in my late teens.

I am still trying to crawl out of it

I've been analyzing why I got this helpless, hopeless attitude in life. And I realized it's mostly because of my parents.

Nothing I ever did to please them, no academic achievements, no behavioral change, nothing I ever did. Ever changed the fact they would never love or even like me.

I felt like I did everything to make them love me, and it didn't do anything. So why bother doing anything at all in life anymore?

I can't get rid of this mindset. Excelling academically or career-wise feel like entirely worthless cope now because it never did anything for me. Neither did anything else really, so why do anything except rot when nothing in my life has ever made an impact?
No woman has ever loved me either for who I am or for how I behaved. Neither has anyone ever valued me for it, paid me for it, nothing. So why bother in life anymore?

fuck

 

[Deleted member 4451]

So you're constantly grasping for solace/redemption, yet it always slips through your hands?

At least you know it's possible. It may be possible to accept your situation and move on. Well that sounds like something a psych would say anyway,
rant:
I can't fucking move on from being so behind and different from my peers, every girl, even the nerdy loser girls I meet are fucking and partying.

I don't want to have meaningless sex, I just want a LTR, but every women is a worthless whore. Impossible to LTR them, so the only option I'm left with is meaningless sex, but it barely motivates me... Even when I was a literal redditor I was also viscerally disgusted by promiscuity...
rant end
But, I've kind of let go of my resentment towards others, I used to hate normies, like could watch them die and feel nothing, and now I can almost, almost, feel happiness when I see others happy. It came from processing all my emotions behind being an abused dog, lots of crying, lots of extreme anger, over 1,5 years. But it's possible.


Well, as demonstrated in the video it's a positive feedback loop, if you lose once you lose more later, etc.

I relate to you on this, but I don't think it's easily changeable unless you change your whole self-perception and identity.


fuark man insights like this is why I post here instead of just in my journal.

Your theory and example are brutally on point. And honestly, what has helped me the most mentally is rediscovering my own intrinsic goals and motivations. It helps disconnect you from the brutal quantitative comparisons you can make to others.

Qualitative comparisons you can, if you're diligent enough, always show that they're useless and not that telling, but it's much harder with the ideals the blackpill preaches.

I also think your example is another example of how Buddhistic/cognitive psychology ideals of just accepting your past and present can be useful, if you thought, fuck yeah I'm fucking a stacylite, ergo I'm a fucking unkillable god you'd be in a much better position now.



aHH man, always read your name as Newone, like Ne-wone, never made the connection to New-One lmao
You're the prettyboy that destroyed MakinItHappen right lol?

Lmao. He never did such thing the horse face fuck. Get real. Man is a wannabe and nobody gave a shit about him.

 

[Pikabro]

I fell into the trap of Learned Helplessness in my late teens.

I am still trying to crawl out of it

Tbh. I realised that like I gave up on trying.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

I am too filled with self-loathing. I find it impossible to come to terms with myself.

 

[TheDragon]

Up until like 14 or 15, I was told that school grades mattered the most and not to waste time with sports or socialization. I still resent my parents for this. They didn't help at all as anytime I expressed any emotion like anger or sadness, they would pretty much yell at me bc they're more important.

 

[Deleted member 25059]

The fate of looksmaxxers son that have to do 10 different sports despite being a genetic dead end cause some retard on a autistic forum claimed it raises testosterone and HGH, by 0.5%

the 165cm gook from england be like

 

[Deleted member 28962]

This thread may have potentially saved me
So thank you

 

[Deleted member 30019]

absolute stupidity, op jump off the roof. 120 iq degenerate

 

[RAITEIII]

Good luck being a winner when you get abused at school then come home and get abused by parents and then cry yourself to sleep

theyd need someone to tell them to be bigger and better..

 

[Psychophilly]

KHHV McDonalds wagie that kills himself at 30

thats me..

 

[Psychophilly]

Saw this video from a STEMcel, (great video btw)

Spoiler: video

When you lose your brain literally makes you act like a cuck, so if you have had a shitty childhood you NEED to win in your early adulthood to not have it shape the rest of your life.

Otherwise, you'll end up a KHHV McDonalds wagie that kills himself at 30
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This is why steroids are based, despite the health risks, the health risks of your physiology thinking you're a loser are much worse than dying a year or two earlier.

And anything that influences neuroplasticity like psychedelics, also massively based, you need to rewire your brain.

I'm trying to get Buproprion (Wellbutrin) from my doctor to and I'm trying to convince a psychiatrist I have ADHD so I can get DNRI's/Stimulants.

I'll start SNRI's to see if I notice any benefits,

You should use everything to modulate your brain out of the hole it's dug itself into. Stimulants and psychedelics are particularly suited to this, psychedelics to rewire, stimulants to get the courage/motivation to make change.

MMA is probably a good thing to start too, despite the fact that you'll lose a lot in the start you should notice yourself getting stronger and stronger, and the average MMA club is filled with genetic rejects, the last club I trained at the average man was a 175cm curry.

holed based. I'm trynna do the same

 

[Danish_Retard]

Very relatable. My parental/environmental situation was probably bottom 10% in the Netherlands. I have never got close to someone yet IRL who shared having an equally bad or worse childhood as I have had. But I think this is also largely because I got forced to study hard, ended up in highIQ academic social circles, which largely only have privileged+wealthy people in it.

Then I found this shithole and I could relate so much with all of the negativity, all the pain. Much more so than all of the social contact I've had IRL where I can't relate to these privileged fucks.

Also JFL @ the posting on here while being on the bus to a date.

I remember sitting in bed, on my phone, making posts on this forum. While I had the naked stacylite girlfriend sleeping in bed next to me, cuddled up to me.

so mentally ill. And I can't fucking seem to do anything about it.

(Let me preface this novel of a reply by saying I won't proof read shit, I could've written it more concisely but holy shit this took more than an hour.)

Same exact story here. All of the people I met while studying came from completely different backgrounds, whealthy, educated parents, doing sports since little etc.

idk what it was about this site but when I found it I was like, holy shit, this is home, everybody here is like me. Perhaps it was just the first time anyone verbalised the negativity and exclusion I felt.

I hate to admit it, but I feel, think and act like a submissive cuck IRL.
It's often only my low-trust facial appearance + above average size (brutal looks-pill) that make people automatically respect my presence and autonomy. I notice it a lot with people when they act more submissive to me than I would've expected them to. But it's based on my brain still believing I look as subhuman as I did in my childhood.

Sometimes people walk all over me and my mode of defence in those situations is to 'care as little as possible about life so it can't hurt you'. I pretend to not care about them disrespecting me. And that's basically extreme submission from my part.

Yeah, I have the same experience, I act too submissive IRL, been conditioned to always fear retribution from normies. I trained MMA for a while, and it felt so good to just not give a shit about people for a while. (I wasn't in the best mental state here tho tbh... didnt give a shit about anything)
Old big men always expect you to move, so when you walk into them, and then give them a completely honest stare that you want to grab a rock and pummel his face they never challenge you. Yet I'd still with a high pitched voice say "Yes sir!" to my boss the day after...

Sometimes people walk all over me and my mode of defence in those situations is to 'care as little as possible about life so it can't hurt you'. I pretend to not care about them disrespecting me. And that's basically extreme submission from my part.

I find, and this perhaps the second most important self-discovery I've made after self-empathy that whenever I am being mistreated, losing, or feeling inferior I become apathetic to everything, everything in my life loses meaning, it becomes impossible to connect with my intrinsic goals and self-compassion. It's like the thread to all my motivations and goals is severed.

I think something similar could be happening to you. I believe I started this coping mechanism 10+ years ago, when I was getting bullied in school and getting no emotional support from my mother.

Only at some point when they really get out of line, something primal triggers in me and I can get really confrontational and violent.
For example if the abuse becomes physical instead of just words/gestures, I can't handle that and I get violent.
I've had this one time when some guy stole a piece of clothing from me while I was wearing it at a dress-up party and taunted me with it afterwards. I went full berserk on this motherfucker and got kicked out of the party for it.

But it usually doesn't get that far. Usually I take all the abuse, the words, the gestures, take it all like a submissive cuck, pretending not to care.

I did similar things in middle school, I haven't been taunted physically since, idk how I'd react now. I'd probably get real mad before it got to that now tho.

But I can relate, I'd let people mock me all they want because I realised quickly I have neither the social status nor skill to fight back, but if someone physically pushed me I'd go apeshit on them.

The solution here is simple, get access/contact to your emotions, journal, and meditate, and you will feel the anger before it becomes uncontrollable, also, a slap usually stops most loudmouths, you say stop once or twice, if they don't you slap them, it isn't enough provocation for them to fight, and it isn't enough to get your incriminated, it's kind of socially acceptable if the guy taunting has been told to stop.

I constantly believe that I need to compensate for my past.

To compensate for my past incel subhuman life, I need to become a chad slayer now and in the future.

And that basically sets me up for failure 100%. But I am unable to accept a 'normal' life. As I feel it would 'invalidate' all the suffering I have experienced in my past.

So you feel you need to equalise the suffering with pleasure to make it worth it?

I once again think emotional contact with yourself is the answer to these questions, you have to FEEL the anger, resentment and sorrow from years of mistreatment. When you think of the past what makes you feel the need to do this? What do you feel? You don't need to put words on it, just feel it, let it be in your mind, don't try to control it, just let it be inside of you, observe it.

For me, the hatred stopped at some point, I started kind of focusing on my intrinsic goals. I can barely let go of the resentment and alienation I've come to feel for everyone normal, which is still deeply ingrained.

Whenever I, as an autist and pariah, have to mask myself, be a happy lil cuck with the normies, I can feel this disgusting entity crawl in and share the same space as my own identity, the more I differentiate myself from my mask and come to understand my own emotions, the more I despise masking.

Same here. I feel behind in every single way possible to my peers. And that doesn't help when I am trying to turn my life around, starting from a position where you are mogged by everyone around you.

I share the same feelings, being a gymnasie dropout (late highschool-early college analogue), a virgin at 20, small social circle, no money, no achievements etc.

But, now we've made the comparison and damaged our egos, what did we do it for? What information do we get? Nothing. At best, we get a little motivation from the hurt we're feeling, but you can't motivate someone by hurting them, that is just sadistic.

The path forward is the same whether or not we're behind or in front of others, you probably know the steps forward, and nothing changes, whether youre mogged or not. The path is the same.

Especially with women I notice how much this is a problem. Women have 0 RESPECT for guys that don't do well in life. They basically DEMAND you to do well in life, before they will socialize/interact with you.

With guys, I feel like my self-deprecating humor, my low social-status behavior, makes me more likeable. Guys seem to like my vibe, like my, what's basically a 'submissive attitude', and like to socialize with me. In stark contrast with women. But that also makes me not vibe with them at the same time because I don't like the vibe.

Yeah, women hate men who are behind status/social-wise. The difference in treatment I get between a 17yo skinny jb and a fat 21 year old from a class we've done together for 3 years is massive. One treats me with respect and affection, and the other thinks herself better than me and makes sure I know it. As you've probably guessed the one that has known me the longest treats me the worst.

Also, anecdotally, I find that most winner-type guys don't like self-deprecating humour or submissive attitudes, they only want other winners around them, the only ones that seem to like that humour are people who want to boost their ego, (they'll usually stab you in the back whenever favourable) and those that have the same social position as you (and me) act like when we act submissive.

I don't care about ONS either, but I find it impossible to form a healthy LTR. Partly because I have mental issues, partly because dating and getting to know young women you find attractive that find you attractive is hardcore difficult.

About normies, I've found myself to become increasingly indifferent to them, their opinions, their lives, everything. It means nothing to me anymore and it makes it difficult for me to socialize. Like when someone is telling me about themselves, I find myself just not caring AT ALL.

Increasingly at the parties/raves/social stuff I am doing, I hardly truly socialize anymore. Mostly just going through the gestures and behavior to seem 'normal' but not really caring.

Brutal TIMEpill, I'm starting my last year in gymnasiet again this summer, last time in my life I'll be close to JB's. It's over man. I can't get my life in order in 6 months. It's over.

About normies, I've found myself to become increasingly indifferent to them, their opinions, their lives, everything. It means nothing to me anymore and it makes it difficult for me to socialize. Like when someone is telling me about themselves, I find myself just not caring AT ALL.

Increasingly at the parties/raves/social stuff I am doing, I hardly truly socialize anymore. Mostly just going through the gestures and behavior to seem 'normal' but not really caring.

Hmm, interesting. I've found the same, I care less and less about the trivialities of getting to know people, I only really bother if I actually find a person interesting, such as the massive time this reply is taking lol...

Most normies don't actually bother ever asking about your life anyway, they just want the validation, and most people aren't interesting enough to give that time. Perhaps it's a maladaptive coping mechanism, perhaps it's just the acknowledgement that most normies are NPC's.

I find this almost impossible to do personally.

Whenever I think of 'improving my life' getting myself back together. I start getting goals like:

I need to study harder, I need to get a better job, I need to become wealthy and powerful, I need to workout more and be more lean, I need to be better-looking and get surgeries, I need to be more extroverted, I need to fuck better-looking women, I need to get better social-status.

Those are the only things I can really come up with. Which all just feels like this shallow uninteresting bullshit to me personally most of the time.

I miss having these passionate personal ambitions. Like wanting be an astronaut, having this hobby you really like, having this country/place you really want to visit, having this specific vision of something you can really see yourself doing/living.

I used to have visions, ideals of what my life should look like. That had nothing to do with social-status, wealth, popularity, as a kid. But I can't find those visions anymore. I somehow can't find my younger self anymore. I am stuck in these superficial garbage trash ideals of wanting to become a 'wealthy, popular, powerful, good-looking guy' and nothing more.
And it feels so plain and un-motivational, like it's been externally imposed on me to want this instead of intrinsically.

I struggle with this every day.

It's so hard to differentiate between external and intrinsic goals.

I can't get myself to commit to the blackpill really, because of this, I don't care enough about being a 'wealthy, popular, powerful, good-looking guy', like sure, I know it'd be better, I'd have more autonomy, but I can't get myself to care. The more I've come to realise that there is no escape from the prison of autism, the more I've become apathetic to these social goals, I'll always be alien, inhuman.

Refinding intrinsic goals, or discovering them from scratch is so fucking hard man, because when you think you've finally found something, and you're sitting a Friday night grinding mathematics, and you open your phone and see all your acquaintances out partying and living a life that's been denied to you (I'm projecting, this is about me now lol) it becomes so fucking hard to stay motivated. Doing maths goes from insane dopamine highs to giving me nothing, it all seems pointless, apathy takes over and everything loses its colour, you know.

I don't even know what I dreamt of as a kid, I remember in 7th grade counting the days till I'd graduate so I could be out of that hellhole, only for gymnasiet to be just as shit. Was my only goal just to escape?

I remember going to career fairs, and my mind not even comprehending that 3 years after I'd have to pick a university degree, it all seemed infinitely far away.

 

[Danish_Retard]

I stumbled upon some incel type stuff at 13 so its not like I had much of a choice I was bound to end up here maybe it was destiny but I am finally using the advice here to better my life. In 3 months I have made more progress then the last 3 years combined

Yh same for me

This forum has a few good points but most of it is bs

It's actually insane how mentally destroying this forum is, when all you need to do is just softmaxx and plan for hardmaxxes.
There is nothing more to it, it can be done in 3 fucking months man, yet I spent years depressed and anxious from blackpill revelations.


It's kind of like reading Nietsche for the first time, I hated it but eventually came to understand without pain.

I agree with everything you said here but don't fuck with SNRI class drugs (Serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors) I just know artificially fucking with serotonin always ends badly I've been addicted to adderall before but I've seen people who suck with anti depressants who are still effected years later. Its just much more dangerous to fuck with serotonin I've yet to see a case where anti depressants (basically drugs that increase serotine thereby decreasing depression and anxiety) long term worked they fucked up my ex gf for sure.

These drugs won't work forever maybe take them if your going to kys anyways. But when you invertible stop them you will have fucked up problems for years. Dopamine related drugs you can recover 90% within a month assuming you weren't abusing meth. Also don't take other anti anxiety meds like Benzos or Xanax. Jordan Peterson is still mentally fucked years later. Those class of drugs (alcohol is also in the class) are some of the only drugs where withdrawals actually can kill you. Anti depressants turn you into a walking zombie most people on them get fat low libido these drugs have a terrifying effect on not only the mind but the body.

But I relate to the thread before you rope try Geomaxxing and try maximizing your life 25 is probably where it gets hard to fundamentally change your life I got 4 years left and its terrifying. You can change at any age I believe god gives us the free will to change whenever we want. But our life choices compound and solidify more as we age while you still can change it becomes harder and harder with age.

I'll take my chances, you don't need to take them permanently, just until your mind sees you as a winner.

I don't think theres any age where it becomes impossible to change life trajectory, but it's compounding, so better start as soon as possible. You'll miss out on SOOO much if you don't.

Unrelated question but where do you get shrooms?

idk man, I got mine in Amsterdam last time.

A friend introduced me to a girl at a party that sold them but I forgot to talk to her after...

>Lord, grant me the strength to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

I always repeat this in my head. Looksmaxing on its face is fundamentally benevolent but fixating on things you cannot fix all day like height or your eye color is bad. Especially when you have not done all you can. Even if you were a truecel this would be bad you should find something better to do with your time then beating yourself up.

This is great wisdom, but don't forget that it's good to also feel the sorrow and pain from the things you don't have, you can't just repress your emotions.

Will rd l8r. Posting to remind myself.

reminder

 

[Danish_Retard]

Why the fuck is he staying so close to the camera and makes those uncomfortable fast zooms, it's very creepy and unsettling...
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Has to show off mongol FWHR properly

I fell into the trap of Learned Helplessness in my late teens.

I am still trying to crawl out of it

Yeah, another good description for this.

It's very hard to get out of, you get so used to nothing you do changing the outcome that you just stop trying.

My mother never gave praise for anything, so at ~12 I just stopped doing anything at home because I only ever got negative comments, then she started yelling at me for not doing anything, impossible to win in that situation, but I think I've carried the mindset with me.

Tbh. I realised that like I gave up on trying.

I've found that often times when I feel apathy or like having given up it's a shitload of negative emotion I've tried to repress.

I am too filled with self-loathing. I find it impossible to come to terms with myself.

It takes time bro

This thread may have potentially saved me
So thank you

My hope is to justify the use of extreme measures to "ascend".
What measures are you going to take that will save you?

Short-term, I'll try to acquire shrooms again asap, they helped so much even once at a low dosage, I need to break my mind with them, much interesting research about them.

absolute stupidity, op jump off the roof. 120 iq degenerate

Average reaction to being too scared to take extreme measures in extreme situations...

holed based. I'm trynna do the same

What is your plan so far bro?

 

[Krakowski]

This was my first avi

So depressive

 

[Deleted member 30019]

Average reaction to being too scared to take extreme measures in extreme situations...

you're crazy, take the white pill. Although it's better to jump off the roof

 

[Psychophilly]

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Has to show off mongol FWHR properly

Yeah, another good description for this.

It's very hard to get out of, you get so used to nothing you do changing the outcome that you just stop trying.

My mother never gave praise for anything, so at ~12 I just stopped doing anything at home because I only ever got negative comments, then she started yelling at me for not doing anything, impossible to win in that situation, but I think I've carried the mindset with me.



I've found that often times when I feel apathy or like having given up it's a shitload of negative emotion I've tried to repress.


It takes time bro


My hope is to justify the use of extreme measures to "ascend".
What measures are you going to take that will save you?

Short-term, I'll try to acquire shrooms again asap, they helped so much even once at a low dosage, I need to break my mind with them, much interesting research about them.


Average reaction to being too scared to take extreme measures in extreme situations...


What is your plan so far bro?

my plan is tbh the same, convincing the therapist that i have serious problems which i think i do. so they give me heavy drugs and make me brain numb. then i might succeed in life

 

[Danish_Retard]

This was my first avi

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So depressive

It hit's so brutally.

The light hitting him in the eyes, as he wakes up and realises that it's another brutal day, that his life didn't pan out like he thought it would, the sadness in this face, the dark little room thats probably his apartment. Or going straight to bed after a long shift, reflecting on how shit his life is before having to wake up tommorow and repeat it.

Fuck man, poignant.

you're crazy, take the white pill. Although it's better to jump off the roof

wdym take the white pill? Give up?

my plan is tbh the same, convincing the therapist that i have serious problems which i think i do. so they give me heavy drugs and make me brain numb. then i might succeed in life

Yeah honestly man, at some point you have to realise that when you've gotten to the point where you want to convince a therapist/psychologist that you have serious problems to get pills, that perhaps you actually have serious problems and you're just advocating for yourself.

 

[Psychophilly]

It hit's so brutally.
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The light hitting him in the eyes, as he wakes up and realises that it's another brutal day, that his life didn't pan out like he thought it would, the sadness in this face, the dark little room thats probably his apartment. Fuck man, poignant.


wdym take the white pill? Give up?


Yeah honestly man, at some point you have to realise that when you've gotten to the point where you want to convince a therapist/psychologist that you have serious problems to get pills, that perhaps you actually have serious problems and you're just advocating for yourself.

It's not that, it's the cunt therapist who give weak ass prescription that does nothing to my already toxic tolerated drug user life style body.
I just need the strong pills, to test all of them. one of them might help me. doctors are garbage

 

[Matthias8272]

This video reminded me of this thread

 

[Deleted member 31457]

This is common sense

Winning increases T

Losing decreases T

Being a winner or loser is mostly down to genetics

 

[TUSSELEIF]

Great thread bro. You and MoggerGaston make solid and relatable af posts. I can’t help but think my experiences in my teens and now early 20s will stay with me for the rest of my life. No matter if things could get better eventually, the fact that I was incel, friendless, bitchless all those years rotting while my peers ostracized, bullied and then abandoned me and formed formative experiences, I think it has traumatized me because I think about it so much.

I would take stimulans too, but I abuse alcohol every day now and can’t stop. It feels so euphoric

 

[Maalik]

It's probably also why ugly guys have such beta and simp personalities.

Of course. Im glad other people are realising the link between ugliness and deadened personality.

be ugly -> People Treat you like shit -> Your ancient social instincts that predate advanced human cognition subconsciously suppress the vibrancy of your personality to avoid attracting negative attention.

repeat for years and you get complete Suppression of Self Expression, with a nasty inferiority complex to boot.

I do not believe in a hard time limit though. We all behave differently with our friends, coworkers and family don't we?
The degree of expression our social instinct permits us is always malleable.

As long as you start getting respect, lust and approval from people, your long dead personality will naturally revive itself

the sooner the better though, obviously.

And thats why I feel looksmaxxing is important for improving your personality as well. Society will never permit ugly people (guys AND girls) to take centre stage in anything or behave in any way that deviates from the norm. It is simply how we as creatures whose brains evolved using Vision as the primary means of assessing the world are and nothing will change this fact which is set in stone

 

[zap]

This is true. Losing a lot early in life = learned helplessness. But don't fall into thinking you'll stay a loser forever because you were a loser before. You have the power of metacognition. Remember you're a human not a rat

 

[Danish_Retard]

This video reminded me of this thread

Just watched it, brutal.

I need to stop being a pussy.

Great thread bro. You and MoggerGaston make solid and relatable af posts. I can’t help but think my experiences in my teens and now early 20s will stay with me for the rest of my life. No matter if things could get better eventually, the fact that I was incel, friendless, bitchless all those years rotting while my peers ostracized, bullied and then abandoned me and formed formative experiences, I think it has traumatized me because I think about it so much.

Yeah bro, I really think it will stay with us for the rest of our lives, unless we drastically try to alter our lives now.

I've tried so hard to distance myself from how I was when I was obese and unaware. I looked at some old pics today, and there is so much pain there, so much sorrow from having been me and being me. How can "turning my life around" change this? It can't.

Even when we "ascend", we're still autistic, still alien, made pariahs.

 

[Esteban1997]

Be me:
Born in south américa
Poor as fuck
Shitty economy
Is there anything worse than this?

 

[Saint Casanova]

This is a very good thread and I need to do more research on this!

 

[brb7]

Brutal wake up call. Good thread.

Im entering late 20s and am a virgin (not KHH at least)

Looking back on it, I just self sabotaged multiple opportunities I had and never really tried (no OLD). Classic Mentalcel / STEMcel aka no women in my uni classes

Its fear of rejection / not being accepted that leads to avoidance

Also the escapism / sedation of video games and porn made it comfortable. If I didn't sedate myself with those addictions, I would have never let it get this far.

Now that I'm stopping all sedation, I'm starting to actually desire companionship and being with women, whereas before I didn't even feel the loneliness really. Recently, I've also changed my nutrition and started MBSR and I noticed a significant improvement.

In any case, I will not let another birthday pass me by without losing my virginity. @Danish_Retard @MoggerGaston do you think I should try OLD first (I look 22, prettyboy type, HTN, appeal more to 18 to 24) and use an escort when unsuccessful or just get it over with by using an escort immediately?

I fear when I use an escort, I will not see it as a real victory whereas when I lose it with a girl that is attracted to me I will have broken through a massive wall.

To conclude, mentalceldom is real and compounding, need to break the curse by any means necessary.

 

[fuxkdakikez]

took too many Ls when I was a youngin, I don’t think I’m capable of recovering from the damage it’s done to my self esteem

 

[Interested]

This video reminded me of this thread

Heartbreaking, now I now nothing will change for the rest of my life.

Internet has been devastating to my life and the experiences and thoughts of others corrupted my mind, as it did to other people.

 

[poopoohead]

Unrelated question but where do you get shrooms?

@SurgeryEnjoyer

 

[Meister!]

I wanted to reply to quite a lot of things said here, because I was shocked to find relatable people here, but it was getting too long so I will try to keep it short.

I also must say this is a gem of a thread and one of the only reasons to keep an account on this site. I remember you from back in 2020 @Danish_Retard, I used to browse this site quite a lot with my old account in the pandemic.

You can always become a loser.
This actually happened to me, I read that a lot of you guys struggle with being neurodivergent or getting bullied thus being a "loser" from early on, well I didn't have these problems, matter of fact I had a good childhood, because I used to win straight for the first 10 years of my life and then my winning streak slowly burned out due to several reasons.
I was blessed because even though I grew up in rural Germany to a single immigrant mother I was average/slightly above average height and my mother prioritized my nutrition and my wellbeing, that's why I never cared that we were short on money, because I never truly felt poor or excluded. I also had a great face and had exotic appeal, because my mother is white passing and I looked so exotic many people assumed we were from either Argentina or Brasil (in the region of Germany in which I grew up this is actually a compliment.)
So what I am saying is that I was on the right tracks to live a great life as a "Slayer".

This all got ruined when my mother fell for the braces + extraction fallacy and that ruined my nose, jaw and smile, I also got sick and stopped growing despite great GH levels and open plates. This combination was my DOWNFALL.

I read that you @Danish_Retard dropped out of high school? I also dropped out because of my illness and the blackpill overdose, I always knew that the mental part of my problems isn't a deep problem, this all would have been gone by now if I had gotten LL and trimax + invisalign, bleaching and some veneers.

Tl;Dr:

I can relate to some of you in the replies, my experience is similar despite being on the other side of the spectrum and having a great childhood and early teens as a winner I ended up here, because mother nature doesn't make exemptions for anyone, you either have the face, height and body to succeed as a man or you will be left behind in the dust.

 

[Deleted member]

it’s over, no amount of good experiences or drugs can fix it

 

[Crusile]

What explains how a lot of "losers" are actually decently happy and a lot of rich workeholes are suicidal depressed

 

[Danish_Retard]

What explains how a lot of "losers" are actually decently happy and a lot of rich workeholes are suicidal depressed

A lot of losers still have friends, a social circle, decent parents etc.

Or if they don't and they're happy perhaps they just don't care much for the things that make is suffer from lacking.

 

[Deleted member 16051]

spent the last 2 years fixing it and getting back to baseline

Regrettably, I cannot express the same sentiment.

 

[Deleted member 16051]

took too many Ls when I was a youngin, I don’t think I’m capable of recovering from the damage it’s done to my self esteem image.

 

[horizontallytall]

Botb worthy info tbh,

 

[Danish_Retard]

Botb worthy info tbh,

I'm going to Thailand to roid and geomaxx in a couple of weeks with another user from here. I must uncuck my brain.

 

[horizontallytall]

I'm going to Thailand to roid and geomaxx in a couple of weeks with another user from here. I must uncuck my brain.

Brutal, wish i could too with u guys

 

[Bojack]

Legit you got to win everytime

 

[Danish_Retard]

Brutal, wish i could too with u guys

Looksmax meetup in Thailand May-June 2024

Legit you got to win everytime

At least in your early years to not have early evolutionary circuits try and make you a betabux.

 

[horizontallytall]

Looksmax meetup in Thailand May-June 2024

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At least in your early years to not have early evolutionary circuits try and make you a betabux.

What the fuck ??

 

[Bojack]

Looksmax meetup in Thailand May-June 2024

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At least in your early years to not have early evolutionary circuits try and make you a betabux.

Yea got to maximize the time you got

 

[Yesse Garas (PSL)]

Saw this video from a STEMcel, (great video btw)

Spoiler: video

When you lose your brain literally makes you act like a cuck, so if you have had a shitty childhood you NEED to win in your early adulthood to not have it shape the rest of your life.

Otherwise, you'll end up a KHHV McDonalds wagie that kills himself at 30
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This is why steroids are based, despite the health risks, the health risks of your physiology thinking you're a loser are much worse than dying a year or two earlier.

And anything that influences neuroplasticity like psychedelics, also massively based, you need to rewire your brain.

I'm trying to get Buproprion (Wellbutrin) from my doctor to and I'm trying to convince a psychiatrist I have ADHD so I can get DNRI's/Stimulants.

I'll start SNRI's to see if I notice any benefits,

You should use everything to modulate your brain out of the hole it's dug itself into. Stimulants and psychedelics are particularly suited to this, psychedelics to rewire, stimulants to get the courage/motivation to make change.

MMA is probably a good thing to start too, despite the fact that you'll lose a lot in the start you should notice yourself getting stronger and stronger, and the average MMA club is filled with genetic rejects, the last club I trained at the average man was a 175cm curry.

Read every molecule and going to reread

 

[n0rthface]

sickening black pill

 

[Moldovancel]

Any update OP ? What did you take and do you notice any effects ?
Also is it worth it if you're older ?

 

[4ever]

Study winning
Study 4ever

 

[MoggerGaston]

never stood a chance, over before it begun