You probably need your orbitals and midface (nasal aperture) reduced in the vertical dimension and the lf1 area downgrafted.

[Ape101]

Top contender for most retarded user of the year award

 

[mvp2v1]

Top contender for most retarded user of the year award

whys that ape101?

 

[mvp2v1]

Surprised how controversial this take is. thought it would be water

 

[gigell]

View attachment 3040143 I dont rule out the possibility that the details of my idea may be wrong, but I think your wrong, I don't think downgrafting done right increases philtrum length in an unaesthetic manner. Maybe its because its usually accompanied with forward movement which increases lip size.

I have a similar problem to the guy but I have a horseface aswell

 

[mvp2v1]

I have a similar problem to the guy but I have a horseface aswell

Share your face here or dms.

 

[mvp2v1]

some more examples I saw which I think represent correct facial development. Note their tall lower thirds. and broad but compressed midface.

 

[mvp2v1]

btw im obv not saying everyone needs a longer philtrum. I happen to be especially focused on this as I have a form of dystrophy where where my philtrum is too short and midface too long.

 

[mvp2v1]

Some interesting faces, the last one looks unharmonious I wonder if that’s just his phenotype.

 

[depressionmaxxing]

Yes but I am not sure that having the entire planet’s hopes of ascension controlled by one man is a good thing or something I would want to participate in.

That‘s stupid. You rely on einstein and newton too?

 

[mvp2v1]

Some interesting faces, the last one looks unharmonious I wonder if that’s just his phenotype.

I think there is something to the idea.

Short midface, longish philtrum.

 

[mvp2v1]

what ive been thinking recently is that there is the 'correct for your genetics' philtrum-to-nose ratio, and then there is the average philtrum-to-nose ratio. The latter is what you would use to maximize attractiveness and the former is what you would use to maximize correctness. I do think that many recessed people have a messed up ratio. where the nose is too large for the philtrum.

 

[mvp2v1]

what ive been thinking recently is that there is the 'correct for your genetics' philtrum-to-nose ratio, and then there is the average philtrum-to-nose ratio. The latter is what you would use to maximize attractiveness and the former is what you would use to maximize correctness. I do think that many recessed people have a messed up ratio. where the nose is too large for the philtrum.

Most retarded user back with another interesting find:


In this morph u can see the sort of changes I am thinking of. Decrease midface length and increased lower third (including philtrum)

@BlackpillRemedy @Ape101

 

[geenk worg]

Yo i was looking for this specific case for a long time
Do you know who is the surgeon by any chance?

 

[geenk worg]

Yo i was looking for this specific case for a long time
Do you know who is the surgeon by any chance?

nevermind it's a gunson patient.

 

[mvp2v1]

Another example

 

[LongForgotten]

Caucasian -> African

Really? This is what you post nowadays? Instead of replying to important and serious dm's of people that want to change their lifes? I have no words. You haven't posted anything after this for almost 2 weeks. You haven't replied to my thread to request a response for weeks. You also haven't responded to my mail for MONTHS requesting a referral.

I appreciate your hard work and your dream to improve and change peoples realities, their romantic succes and happiness. I think you're an amazing surgeon with alot of passion, but I must admit that my patience has gone now, and I do think I deserve a response at this point.

 

[mvp2v1]

Really? This is what you post nowadays? Instead of replying to important and serious dm's of people that want to change their lifes? I have no words. You haven't posted anything after this for almost 2 weeks. You haven't replied to my thread to request a response for weeks. You also haven't responded to my mail for MONTHS requesting a referral.

I appreciate your hard work and your dream to improve and change peoples realities, their romantic succes and happiness. I think you're an amazing surgeon with alot of passion, but I must admit that my patience has gone now, and I do think I deserve a response at this point.

In his defense: Replying to clients takes more thought/time then replying to a random .org thread.