YOUR SKIN LOOKS LIKE SHIT | ATRAS SKIN GUIDE

[bruhtoobrutal]

Sonion you don’t know shit ..

skincare is cope jfl

 

[stevlond112]

YOUR SKIN LOOKS LIKE SHIT


The only 7 actives and easy fixes you need to finally get clear skin in 8-12 weeks.

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Thread Song:



Yeah, the title is harsh. Probably true though, or you wouldn't be here.

WHAT'S COMING
1. Why clear skin matters so much
2. Diet. The foundation
3. Active acne. The actives
4. Acne scars. What actually works
5. Glowy skin + routine
6. Conclusion​

---

1. WHY CLEAR SKIN MATTERS SO MUCH

View attachment 5390627

Your face instantly signals health, vitality and hormonal status. Halo effect, you've heard it 1000x by now. Still real in everyday life though. Walk in with clear skin and people perceive you differently, automatically read you as smarter and more competent. Potential partners, friends, job interviews. Everywhere.

CLEAR SKIN IS STATUS.

There isn't ONE type of skin problem.. there are many (who would've guessed). Each has its own mechanism, so each needs its own treatment:​

• Active acne with inflammation​
• Blackheads permanently clogging your pores​
• Hyperpigmentation / dark marks left from old breakouts​
• Acne scars that structurally change your skin texture​
• Redness and uneven complexion​
• Dull, pale skin with zero glow​

View attachment 5390361

Why skincare is one of the biggest levers in looksmaxxing: skin is one of the few areas where consistent execution gets you a measurable difference in 8 to 12 weeks. No surgery, no 10-step routine, no huge budget. Relatively easy to fix. Most people still mess it up because they don't know what actually works and what's trash. That's what this thread is for. Thank me later.

THE MECHANISM: WHY ACNE EVEN HAPPENS

View attachment 5390366

Your sebaceous glands produce sebum. Oily substance, actually important for your skin. Becomes a problem when too much gets produced. Pores clog. Bacteria ("Cutibacterium acnes") multiply anaerobically inside those pores. Inflammation. Exactly the pimples you don't want.

Sebum production is largely driven by androgens. High androgens, high sebum production. And everything that spikes IGF-1 pushes the process further. IGF-1 is fuel on the fire for your sebaceous glands. Remember that, it comes back in a second.​

---

2. DIET. THE FOUNDATION

I know, nobody wants to hear about diet. It's the foundation, but there are bigger levers that improve your skin way harder without restricting yourself much. Coming right up. If you want to skip: scroll straight down to the actives.

The mechanism here: insulin rises, IGF-1 gets released, IGF-1 triggers sebum production, more sebum, clogged pores, breakout. So you want to avoid insulin spikes as much as possible.

What to keep in moderation:

Sugar and simple carbs. Sweets, sugary drinks, white bread, polished rice. All high glycemic index, meaning blood sugar shoots up, IGF-1 gets fueled, acne gets worse.

Sweeteners. Better than sugar, but not neutral. No insulin spike, but they can destabilize your gut flora. Disrupted gut flora is pro-inflammatory, and systemic inflammation is a direct acne trigger.

Skim milk & whey protein. Skim milk has no fat to buffer the hormonal response, and industrial processing often adds whey on top. Whey strongly stimulates IGF-1, usually with sweeteners in the mix too. That's why a lot of guys chugging their daily whey shake have constant breakouts.

The switch: If dairy, then full-fat, fermented or raw milk from pasture-raised cows. Fermented stuff like kefir is good for the gut in general. Less inflammation, clearer skin.​

---

3. ACTIVES FOR ACTIVE ACNE

Benzoyl Peroxide 5% (BPO)

View attachment 5390378

Goated as a spot treatment against active acne. BPO pushes oxygen straight into the pore. Anaerobic bacteria, exactly the pathogens causing the inflammation, die off. Dab the 5% gel on active pimples, done. Every pharmacy has it, easy online too. For mild to moderate acne this is your first step.

Adapalene (topical retinoid)

View attachment 5390382

The next level. Adapalene is a vitamin A derivative. Regulates cell turnover inside the pore, so clogs never even form. Harsher than BPO, but more effective long term.



IMPORTANT: The first 1-2 weeks your skin often gets worse first. Purging. It's normal, clears up after, so push through.


THE ABSOLUTE GOAT: ISOTRETINOIN

View attachment 5390670

aka Accutane. Nothing comes close. Almost everyone with an insane skin transformation is or was on it.​

• Permanently shrinks the sebaceous glands​
• Cuts sebum production down to a minimum​
• Anti-inflammatory, antibacterial​
• Often completely pimple-free after a single course. Forever.​

On iso your diet barely matters for your skin anymore. The glands are shrunk so much that even elevated IGF-1 can't trigger anything.



Pro tip: Take it with fat. Isotretinoin is lipophilic, on an empty stomach you throw away massive bioavailability. So always with a proper meal.

ISO TIMELINE:​

Phase​	Timeframe​	What you'll see​
Starting phase​	Week 1-4​	Skin can get worse at first (purging). Pores are being emptied. Don't quit, it's normal.​
End of purging​	Week 4-8​	Inflammation calms down. First visible improvements, fewer active breakouts.​
Clearing​	Week 8-12​	Clear improvement. New breakouts stop, complexion gets more even.​
Final phase​	Week 12-20​	Skin largely clear. Redness and post-acne marks fade.​
Goal reached​	Cumulative dose reached​	Often completely pimple-free. Results usually long term / permanent.​

---

4. ACNE SCARS. WHAT ACTUALLY WORKS.

The pimples are gone. The scars stay. This is where most people get everything wrong. Too weak, too late, or with the wrong tool for the wrong scar type.

Acne scars aren't purely cosmetic. Deep scars change your skin texture structurally and measurably lower perceived skin quality, even when the acne is long gone. So you have to be precise here.

View attachment 5390529

Why scars form in the first place: with deep inflammation the body doesn't repair the tissue cleanly. Instead of even collagen you get scar tissue, structurally different, visibly noticeable. Every treatment targets the same thing: push the body into controlled new collagen formation and break down the old scar tissue bit by bit.

Topical retinoids (e.g. retinal)

View attachment 5390395

The foundation. Stimulate collagen production and smooth the surface over time. Effective for superficial scars and post-acne hyperpigmentation. Takes a few months, just stay consistent.

GHK-Cu (copper peptide)

View attachment 5390401

Absolute GOAT peptide. GHK-Cu transports copper to your cells, and copper is essential for collagen synthesis and skin repair. It signals the body to break down old scarred tissue and replace it with fresh collagen. As an injectable though, this belongs in medical hands, not a DIY project.



Azelaic acid

View attachment 5390409

Extremely underrated. For redness and pigment marks, also works against post-acne hyperpigmentation.

Vitamin C serum

View attachment 5390411

For complexion and pigment marks. Inhibits melanin production, marks fade over time. Together with retinol a solid anti-pigmentation system.

WHAT YOU NEED WHEN:​

Scar type​	Severity​	Right approach​
Redness / post-acne marks​	Superficial​	Azelaic acid, vitamin C​
Texture irregularities​	Mild​	Retinal, GHK-Cu, patience​
Depressed scars​	Moderate​	GHK-Cu, professional microneedling​
Deep atrophic scars​	Severe​	CO2 laser, go see a derm​

For deep scars the CO2 laser at the dermatologist is the only real path. It fires microscopic injuries into the skin and activates the body's self-healing in a controlled way. Result: new collagen, smoother texture, reduced scar structure. Everything else is cope here.​

---

5. BONUS: GLOWY SKIN + ROUTINE

If you don't just want clear skin but long-term glowy, youthful skin (the "Korean glass skin" look), stack these 3 together:

View attachment 5390426
​

1. Isotretinoin. The GOAT for clear skin, base for the rest (like I said: derm route)​
2. Topical retinoids (retinal / retinol). Smooth, glowing skin through boosted cell renewal​
3. GHK-Cu. Denser skin through more collagen​

That's how you get the potential to look like you have an IG filter on your face 24/7.

Important: Skin can react sensitively to this combo. Redness and light peeling at the start are normal, no reason to quit.

MORNING ROUTINE:​

1. Cleansing (optional): For sensitive skin, water is often enough. If you use a cleanser: gentle, non-comedogenic, no alcohol, no exfoliants.​
2. Moisturizer: Protect the barrier without clogging pores. Light, oil-free cream or gel.​
3. Sunscreen, MANDATORY: UV destroys collagen and worsens pigmentation. Mineral over chemical, SPF 50+. Avoid tanning beds.​

View attachment 5390482View attachment 5390486View attachment 5390487


EVENING ROUTINE:​

1. Cleansing (optional): Same product as in the morning.​
2. Treatment: The actives that fit your situation, everything from above.​
3. Moisturizer: Repair the barrier. Richer cream than in the morning, especially on iso.​

View attachment 5390492​

---

6. CONCLUSION

Back to you: you probably landed here because your skin bothers you. Because you look in the mirror every morning and see what's wrong. Active pimples that won't leave, redness making your complexion uneven, scars from old breakouts. Here you have everything after years of research and trial & error in ONE thread.

View attachment 5390636

Skincare is an extreme lever. But only one lever. Looksmaxxing is an ecosystem (buzzword, I know): training, body fat, sleep, hair, style, hardmaxxing, it all interlocks. If you really want to reach a high level, you have to understand and run your self-improvement as one complete system, no matter where you currently sit on the scale.

With all the TikTok trends and forum copes out there, this gives you a clear system and a clear routine.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

TL;DR:​

• Cut insulin spikes, skim milk & whey, add fermented foods​
• Mild to moderate acne: BPO 5% as spot treatment, then adapalene (or Epiduo)​
• Severe / stubborn acne: isotretinoin through your derm, the GOAT​
• Marks / redness: azelaic acid + vitamin C​
• Texture / scars: retinal + GHK-Cu, professional microneedling, deep scars: CO2 laser​
• SPF 50+ every morning. Non-negotiable.​

---

Spoiler: Disclaimer

This thread is for educational and informational purposes only and does not constitute medical advice, diagnosis or treatment instructions. Actives like isotretinoin and topical retinoids are prescription-only, use only with a doctor's prescription and supervision (incl. regular bloodwork). Injections may only be performed by trained medical professionals. Before using any of the actives mentioned, always consult a doctor or dermatologist, regardless of severity. Use at your own risk, individual results vary. This thread does not establish a doctor-patient relationship.

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[Atra]

skincare is cope jfl

Not really

 

[aimbotuser3123]

Tretinoin + azalaic acid = holy skin

 

[Atra]

Tretinoin + azalaic acid = holy skin

 

[Im_a_grey11]

mirin the thread

 

[Atra]

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[Henji]

Is isotret really worth it? Im pretty sure the side effects outweigh the benefits unless your skin is like genuinely "Bad" normal tretinoin which is the topical tret should be better for going towards good rather than not bad or am i wrong?

 

[jbgdudeeee]

YOUR SKIN LOOKS LIKE SHIT


The only 7 actives and easy fixes you need to finally get clear skin in 8-12 weeks.

View attachment 5390415

Thread Song:



Yeah, the title is harsh. Probably true though, or you wouldn't be here.

WHAT'S COMING
1. Why clear skin matters so much
2. Diet. The foundation
3. Active acne. The actives
4. Acne scars. What actually works
5. Glowy skin + routine
6. Conclusion​

---

1. WHY CLEAR SKIN MATTERS SO MUCH

View attachment 5390627

Your face instantly signals health, vitality and hormonal status. Halo effect, you've heard it 1000x by now. Still real in everyday life though. Walk in with clear skin and people perceive you differently, automatically read you as smarter and more competent. Potential partners, friends, job interviews. Everywhere.

CLEAR SKIN IS STATUS.

There isn't ONE type of skin problem.. there are many (who would've guessed). Each has its own mechanism, so each needs its own treatment:​

• Active acne with inflammation​
• Blackheads permanently clogging your pores​
• Hyperpigmentation / dark marks left from old breakouts​
• Acne scars that structurally change your skin texture​
• Redness and uneven complexion​
• Dull, pale skin with zero glow​

View attachment 5390361

Why skincare is one of the biggest levers in looksmaxxing: skin is one of the few areas where consistent execution gets you a measurable difference in 8 to 12 weeks. No surgery, no 10-step routine, no huge budget. Relatively easy to fix. Most people still mess it up because they don't know what actually works and what's trash. That's what this thread is for. Thank me later.

THE MECHANISM: WHY ACNE EVEN HAPPENS

View attachment 5390366

Your sebaceous glands produce sebum. Oily substance, actually important for your skin. Becomes a problem when too much gets produced. Pores clog. Bacteria ("Cutibacterium acnes") multiply anaerobically inside those pores. Inflammation. Exactly the pimples you don't want.

Sebum production is largely driven by androgens. High androgens, high sebum production. And everything that spikes IGF-1 pushes the process further. IGF-1 is fuel on the fire for your sebaceous glands. Remember that, it comes back in a second.​

---

2. DIET. THE FOUNDATION

I know, nobody wants to hear about diet. It's the foundation, but there are bigger levers that improve your skin way harder without restricting yourself much. Coming right up. If you want to skip: scroll straight down to the actives.

The mechanism here: insulin rises, IGF-1 gets released, IGF-1 triggers sebum production, more sebum, clogged pores, breakout. So you want to avoid insulin spikes as much as possible.

What to keep in moderation:

Sugar and simple carbs. Sweets, sugary drinks, white bread, polished rice. All high glycemic index, meaning blood sugar shoots up, IGF-1 gets fueled, acne gets worse.

Sweeteners. Better than sugar, but not neutral. No insulin spike, but they can destabilize your gut flora. Disrupted gut flora is pro-inflammatory, and systemic inflammation is a direct acne trigger.

Skim milk & whey protein. Skim milk has no fat to buffer the hormonal response, and industrial processing often adds whey on top. Whey strongly stimulates IGF-1, usually with sweeteners in the mix too. That's why a lot of guys chugging their daily whey shake have constant breakouts.

The switch: If dairy, then full-fat, fermented or raw milk from pasture-raised cows. Fermented stuff like kefir is good for the gut in general. Less inflammation, clearer skin.​

---

3. ACTIVES FOR ACTIVE ACNE

Benzoyl Peroxide 5% (BPO)

View attachment 5390378

Goated as a spot treatment against active acne. BPO pushes oxygen straight into the pore. Anaerobic bacteria, exactly the pathogens causing the inflammation, die off. Dab the 5% gel on active pimples, done. Every pharmacy has it, easy online too. For mild to moderate acne this is your first step.

Adapalene (topical retinoid)

View attachment 5390382

The next level. Adapalene is a vitamin A derivative. Regulates cell turnover inside the pore, so clogs never even form. Harsher than BPO, but more effective long term.



IMPORTANT: The first 1-2 weeks your skin often gets worse first. Purging. It's normal, clears up after, so push through.


THE ABSOLUTE GOAT: ISOTRETINOIN

View attachment 5390670

aka Accutane. Nothing comes close. Almost everyone with an insane skin transformation is or was on it.​

• Permanently shrinks the sebaceous glands​
• Cuts sebum production down to a minimum​
• Anti-inflammatory, antibacterial​
• Often completely pimple-free after a single course. Forever.​

On iso your diet barely matters for your skin anymore. The glands are shrunk so much that even elevated IGF-1 can't trigger anything.



Pro tip: Take it with fat. Isotretinoin is lipophilic, on an empty stomach you throw away massive bioavailability. So always with a proper meal.

ISO TIMELINE:​

Phase​	Timeframe​	What you'll see​
Starting phase​	Week 1-4​	Skin can get worse at first (purging). Pores are being emptied. Don't quit, it's normal.​
End of purging​	Week 4-8​	Inflammation calms down. First visible improvements, fewer active breakouts.​
Clearing​	Week 8-12​	Clear improvement. New breakouts stop, complexion gets more even.​
Final phase​	Week 12-20​	Skin largely clear. Redness and post-acne marks fade.​
Goal reached​	Cumulative dose reached​	Often completely pimple-free. Results usually long term / permanent.​

---

4. ACNE SCARS. WHAT ACTUALLY WORKS.

The pimples are gone. The scars stay. This is where most people get everything wrong. Too weak, too late, or with the wrong tool for the wrong scar type.

Acne scars aren't purely cosmetic. Deep scars change your skin texture structurally and measurably lower perceived skin quality, even when the acne is long gone. So you have to be precise here.

View attachment 5390529

Why scars form in the first place: with deep inflammation the body doesn't repair the tissue cleanly. Instead of even collagen you get scar tissue, structurally different, visibly noticeable. Every treatment targets the same thing: push the body into controlled new collagen formation and break down the old scar tissue bit by bit.

Topical retinoids (e.g. retinal)

View attachment 5390395

The foundation. Stimulate collagen production and smooth the surface over time. Effective for superficial scars and post-acne hyperpigmentation. Takes a few months, just stay consistent.

GHK-Cu (copper peptide)

View attachment 5390401

Absolute GOAT peptide. GHK-Cu transports copper to your cells, and copper is essential for collagen synthesis and skin repair. It signals the body to break down old scarred tissue and replace it with fresh collagen. As an injectable though, this belongs in medical hands, not a DIY project.



Azelaic acid

View attachment 5390409

Extremely underrated. For redness and pigment marks, also works against post-acne hyperpigmentation.

Vitamin C serum

View attachment 5390411

For complexion and pigment marks. Inhibits melanin production, marks fade over time. Together with retinol a solid anti-pigmentation system.

WHAT YOU NEED WHEN:​

Scar type​	Severity​	Right approach​
Redness / post-acne marks​	Superficial​	Azelaic acid, vitamin C​
Texture irregularities​	Mild​	Retinal, GHK-Cu, patience​
Depressed scars​	Moderate​	GHK-Cu, professional microneedling​
Deep atrophic scars​	Severe​	CO2 laser, go see a derm​

For deep scars the CO2 laser at the dermatologist is the only real path. It fires microscopic injuries into the skin and activates the body's self-healing in a controlled way. Result: new collagen, smoother texture, reduced scar structure. Everything else is cope here.​

---

5. BONUS: GLOWY SKIN + ROUTINE

If you don't just want clear skin but long-term glowy, youthful skin (the "Korean glass skin" look), stack these 3 together:

View attachment 5390426
​

1. Isotretinoin. The GOAT for clear skin, base for the rest (like I said: derm route)​
2. Topical retinoids (retinal / retinol). Smooth, glowing skin through boosted cell renewal​
3. GHK-Cu. Denser skin through more collagen​

That's how you get the potential to look like you have an IG filter on your face 24/7.

Important: Skin can react sensitively to this combo. Redness and light peeling at the start are normal, no reason to quit.

MORNING ROUTINE:​

1. Cleansing (optional): For sensitive skin, water is often enough. If you use a cleanser: gentle, non-comedogenic, no alcohol, no exfoliants.​
2. Moisturizer: Protect the barrier without clogging pores. Light, oil-free cream or gel.​
3. Sunscreen, MANDATORY: UV destroys collagen and worsens pigmentation. Mineral over chemical, SPF 50+. Avoid tanning beds.​

View attachment 5390482View attachment 5390486View attachment 5390487


EVENING ROUTINE:​

1. Cleansing (optional): Same product as in the morning.​
2. Treatment: The actives that fit your situation, everything from above.​
3. Moisturizer: Repair the barrier. Richer cream than in the morning, especially on iso.​

View attachment 5390492​

---

6. CONCLUSION

Back to you: you probably landed here because your skin bothers you. Because you look in the mirror every morning and see what's wrong. Active pimples that won't leave, redness making your complexion uneven, scars from old breakouts. Here you have everything after years of research and trial & error in ONE thread.

View attachment 5390636

Skincare is an extreme lever. But only one lever. Looksmaxxing is an ecosystem (buzzword, I know): training, body fat, sleep, hair, style, hardmaxxing, it all interlocks. If you really want to reach a high level, you have to understand and run your self-improvement as one complete system, no matter where you currently sit on the scale.

With all the TikTok trends and forum copes out there, this gives you a clear system and a clear routine.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

TL;DR:​

• Cut insulin spikes, skim milk & whey, add fermented foods​
• Mild to moderate acne: BPO 5% as spot treatment, then adapalene (or Epiduo)​
• Severe / stubborn acne: isotretinoin through your derm, the GOAT​
• Marks / redness: azelaic acid + vitamin C​
• Texture / scars: retinal + GHK-Cu, professional microneedling, deep scars: CO2 laser​
• SPF 50+ every morning. Non-negotiable.​

---

Spoiler: Disclaimer

This thread is for educational and informational purposes only and does not constitute medical advice, diagnosis or treatment instructions. Actives like isotretinoin and topical retinoids are prescription-only, use only with a doctor's prescription and supervision (incl. regular bloodwork). Injections may only be performed by trained medical professionals. Before using any of the actives mentioned, always consult a doctor or dermatologist, regardless of severity. Use at your own risk, individual results vary. This thread does not establish a doctor-patient

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great thread do u think i should add anything to my evening routine as it’s either salicylic acid or retinol serum with a moisturizer lmk

 

[Atra]

Is isotret really worth it? Im pretty sure the side effects outweigh the benefits unless your skin is like genuinely "Bad" normal tretinoin which is the topical tret should be better for going towards good rather than not bad or am i wrong?

I’m being honest everything I said in the thread works for me.

great thread do u think i should add anything to my evening routine as it’s either salicylic acid or retinol serum with a moisturizer lmk

Just follow the steps.

 

[Atra]

skincare is cope jfl

No not really

 

[jbgdudeeee]

I’m being honest everything I said in the thread works for me.

Just follow the steps.

thank u +

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Is isotret really worth it? Im pretty sure the side effects outweigh the benefits unless your skin is like genuinely "Bad" normal tretinoin which is the topical tret should be better for going towards good rather than not bad or am i wrong?

Oral retinoids are more effective, 24/7 retinoid activity in sebaceous glands and effective delivery via blood vs topicals with relative poor absorption in comparison.

I was able to cure my acne for good by suppressing the trash hormone DHT + oral retinoids. I microdosed the retinoids though, full complete ultra mega clear skin effect took me 2 1/2~ years but I mean yeah it was already very good long before that, would still get odd pimples though. Even when I got odd pimples though they heal super fast and do not leave no marks for long.

Thoughts about suppressing the trash hormone DHT for acne OP @Atra ? Underrated IMO, especially with dutasteride. Heard some with treatment resistant acne finally clear up on it when even isotretinoin didn't clear it fully.

 

[6´3 LTN]

What’s do you think about taz + vaginal cream and then just moisturizing and cleansing

 

[Atra]

Thoughts about suppressing the trash hormone DHT for acne OP @

@Atra ? Underrated IMO, especially with dutasteride. Heard some with treatment resistant acne finally clear up on it when even isotretinoin didn't clear it fully.

yeah there’s something to this. sebaceous glands run mostly on 5AR type 1, which fin basically ignores, so dut hits sebum harder. that part checks out.

the “cleared when accutane didn’t” thing I’d take with a grain of salt though. accutane shrinks the gland itself, so if that didn’t do it, sebum probably wasn’t the issue in the first place — usually it’s underdosed cumulative, or inflammation / bacteria / just skin that’s hypersensitive to normal androgen levels.

if you want to go after androgens anyway, clascoterone is the smarter move imo. blocks the receptor topically, actually approved for acne, no systemic hit. dut sits in you for weeks — if sides show up you’re just stuck riding it out.

 

[Atra]

What’s do you think about taz + vaginal cream and then just moisturizing and cleansing

Meh my guide is better

 

[Nerogen]

Whats ur thoughts on bleaching skin?

 

[Atra]

Whats ur thoughts on bleaching skin?

Depends bro

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

yeah there’s something to this. sebaceous glands run mostly on 5AR type 1, which fin basically ignores, so dut hits sebum harder. that part checks out.

the “cleared when accutane didn’t” thing I’d take with a grain of salt though. accutane shrinks the gland itself, so if that didn’t do it, sebum probably wasn’t the issue in the first place — usually it’s underdosed cumulative, or inflammation / bacteria / just skin that’s hypersensitive to normal androgen levels.

if you want to go after androgens anyway, clascoterone is the smarter move imo. blocks the receptor topically, actually approved for acne, no systemic hit. dut sits in you for weeks — if sides show up you’re just stuck riding it out.

Thing is even finasteride has evidence for being effective for acne, even topical, there are studies of it on pubmed, and it doesn't even affect 5-ar type 1 the main isoenzyme in sebaceous glands. Lots of guys on fin for hair loss that cleared up their acne as well. Like the small shift in less DHT was enough to clear their skin up anyway.

Also don't forget NORWOOD and I mean yeah, that would be the real #1 reason to take fin/dut, just if someone already got NORWOOD and hop on fin/dut and it clears up their acne at the same time that is very cool and powerful imo. Androgens also affect sebaceous gland size and can drive growth. Some roid guys are unable to clear up their skin with isotretinoin alone from what I have read via user experiences, one guy here even got permanently worsened acne even off roids with isotretinoin almost as if androgen load was so high his sebaceous glands increased in size anyway.

Obviously I am not saying to hop on fin/dut for ACNE but if someone got NORWOOD going on at the same time then clearing up the skin too can be a huge bonus. Again like I said fin/dut PLUS oral retinoids was able to fix it for good for me, and I got away with microdosing the retinoids because fin/dut was already taking care of most the acne for me.

 

[senron]

Nice post

 

[Sakl]

You're meant to drink water not read it

LMAOOOO

 

[Atra]

Nice post

Thanks bro!

 

[griifith]

does sm1 know what to do for black heads on nose been trying to get rid of them for a while with adapalen it shrunk them abit but theyre not gone