You're not bloated. You're recessed.

[datboijj]

i think it has something to do with how much skin and muscle you grow while you were receeding or something
like diruing puberty your skin and muscle grow linear
but if you fucked up in toungue posture or something
your bones are taking 2 steps forward and 1 step back
i noticed this in a lot of people who got braces that push back the maxilla
while the skin and facial muscles are still the same length as before
like the gif below
the recessed bones make the tight skin become lose and excess
This is for my retarded ass because i absolutely remember being 10 and asking myself
"should my tongue be on the top or at the bottom"
then I remember people talking and their tongues would be at the bottom
so i said " the bottom is the right way"
i used to have hollow cheeks no im giga "bloated"

 

[Deleted member 7725]

candice swanepool is always bloated and has top tier forward growth

Where's the top tier forward growth? She has a big droopy nose as a result of a flat maxilla.

 

[SAR]

the best looking guy in my school has a super forward maxilla but his face is always bloated

his lower third is pretty average tho

He might have maxillary prognathism

 

[TsarTsar444]

True, here im 22% bf, and you can notice some hollowness, its all about zygos tbh

 

[Deleted member 7725]

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True, here im 22% bf, and you can notice some hollowness, its all about zygos tbh

JFL you look bloated man, no offense. Not really hollowness. Impressive for 22% bf though.

 

[TsarTsar444]

JFL you look bloated man, no offense. Not really hollowness. Impressive for 22% bf though.

Well that's not the point, point is im 22% bf and still have mild hallow cheeks

You can see it here tbh

 

[TsarTsar444]

JFL you look bloated man, no offense. Not really hollowness. Impressive for 22% bf though.

(Ignore the scars ) this is my face at 16% bf. Fuark i really want to experience 10% tbh with skin with no scars

 

[Deleted member 7725]

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(Ignore the scars ) this is my face at 16% bf. Fuark i really want to experience 10% tbh with skin with no scars

Looks good.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Looks good.

Ngl you can kiinda experience how you will look at 10% bf. The trick is to water fast and fast in general from food too for 2 days, if you 15% bf you will get a 10% look. I did this when i had to do colonoscopy and fuarrkkk it looks insane, too bad didn't make pics that day. Also jfl when my gf saw me like that she was begging me to go to her home to fuck her

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

You won't find a single recessed person with hollow cheeks.

I'm brutally recessed with hollow cheeks

 

[DatNibba11]

It never began.

 

[OOGABOOGA]

I know bro

 

[JawGuyFatFaceGuy]

i think it has something to do with how much skin and muscle you grow while you were receeding or something
like diruing puberty your skin and muscle grow linear
but if you fucked up in toungue posture or something
your bones are taking 2 steps forward and 1 step back
i noticed this in a lot of people who got braces that push back the maxilla
while the skin and facial muscles are still the same length as before
like the gif below
the recessed bones make the tight skin become lose and excess
This is for my retarded ass because i absolutely remember being 10 and asking myself
"should my tongue be on the top or at the bottom"
then I remember people talking and their tongues would be at the bottom
so i said " the bottom is the right way"
i used to have hollow cheeks no im giga "bloated"

So whats the fix for this?

 

[datboijj]

So whats the fix for this?

try to gain more facial growth and flll out the skin and ligaments
or do it with fillers like that other guy who got banned

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Found a shredded redditor with shit face definition



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His bones are fine though. Probably from HGH/Tren/Insulin.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

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Lol what? Tren will do the opposite of bloat you. This is him at 17 he looks natty

Trenface is a real thing.

 

[TUSSELEIF]

I’m very bloated everywhere on my body and still have hollow cheeks, lifefuel

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Trenface would give you a gaunt look, tren reduces water retention. Testosterone would bloat you.

Google "tren face bloat".

 

[khvirgin]

If I after get bimax and implants I won't have hollow cheeks I'm gonna sue you

 

[Deleted]

You won't find a single recessed person with hollow cheeks. Take this guy. Here he's at around 8-12% bodyfat. Just look at his face:

Ideal hairline on first guy

 

[ChristianChad]

You won't find a single recessed person with hollow cheeks.

@LooksOverAll Hello
Which bones would you need to be able to have hollow cheeks or a lean face?

 

[Deleted member 7725]

@LooksOverAll Hello
Which bones would you need to be able to have hollow cheeks or a lean face?

Wide mandible #1, projecting cheekbones #2, forward grown maxilla #3.

 

[ChristianChad]

Wide mandible #1, projecting cheekbones #2, forward grown maxilla #3.

Thank you

 

[Deleted member 3259]

Is it true that you can tell whether or not you are downward grown due to the position of your gonial angle? What I heard was that if your gonial angle, or jaw angle, is located under your mouth/lips, it means that you are not downward grown, where as if its located above, it means you are. It would make sense for these examples you have given as well.

 

[Henry77]

You won't find a single recessed person with hollow cheeks. Take this guy. Here he's at around 8-12% bodyfat. Just look at his face:

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Completely bloated and boneless. No hollow cheeks, zygos, or jawline in sight. Here's him once he gains a few pounds:

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Why does this happen? Let's take a look at his side profile:

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A recessed maxilla, downward grown, recessed chin. Let's take another example. Here's Elvis at 21 years of age:

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Looks pretty bloated. Let's take a look at his side:

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What'd you expect?

Now let's take a look at someone who tried to cheat his bone structure. Notice the bloated face, downward grown maxilla, chin, etc.

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Here's him after modeling for some time and presumably getting buccal fat removal to unnaturally achieve hollow cheeks to fit the model industry standard:

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It looks good, but here's him a few years later. Notice the premature aging and gaunt look:

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TL;DR - You're not "bloated". You just have a recessed maxilla causing your skin to sag over your face and deep nasolabial folds giving you a bloated appearance. You need bimax, zygo augmentation, and possibly jaw augmentation to have enough skin stretching to fix your issues. A quick solution would be buccal fat removal but it's not a good long term solution.

Dude how tf did i had visible cheekbones and ogee curve (in good lighting ofc) when i was 14-15 and now I'm 17 and I don't have them? Do you think it's just that I'm bloated/gained fat rather than recession?

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Dude how tf did i had visible cheekbones and ogee curve (in good lighting ofc) when i was 14-15 and now I'm 17 and I don't have them? Do you think it's just that I'm bloated/gained fat rather than recession?

Maybe more downward growth or growth in the wrong areas. Could be fat as well.

 

[Henry77]

Maybe more downward growth or growth in the wrong areas. Could be fat as well.

How can you have downward growth ? I've compact midface. And i was always nose breather. Plus your nose shape doesn't always depend on your maxilla. Your ethnicity and genetics also play a part. I've seen many middle Eastern people with forward maxilla but that humpy nose

 

[Deleted member 7725]

How can you have downward growth ? I've compact midface. And i was always nose breather. Plus your nose shape doesn't always depend on your maxilla. Your ethnicity and genetics also play a part. I've seen many middle Eastern people with forward maxilla but that humpy nose

Yes but having a flat maxilla will pronounce your humpy nose. Like Sean O'Pry has a massive nose but his maxilla is so forward grown that it's actually aesthetic on him. The same nose on someone with a flat maxilla would look like shit:

 

[Deleted member 15081]

You won't find a single recessed person with hollow cheeks. Take this guy. Here he's at around 8-12% bodyfat. Just look at his face:

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Completely bloated and boneless. No hollow cheeks, zygos, or jawline in sight. Here's him once he gains a few pounds:

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Why does this happen? Let's take a look at his side profile:

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A recessed maxilla, downward grown, recessed chin. Let's take another example. Here's Elvis at 21 years of age:

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Looks pretty bloated. Let's take a look at his side:

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What'd you expect?

Now let's take a look at someone who tried to cheat his bone structure. Notice the bloated face, downward grown maxilla, chin, etc.

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Here's him after modeling for some time and presumably getting buccal fat removal to unnaturally achieve hollow cheeks to fit the model industry standard:

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It looks good, but here's him a few years later. Notice the premature aging and gaunt look:

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TL;DR - You're not "bloated". You just have a recessed maxilla causing your skin to sag over your face and deep nasolabial folds giving you a bloated appearance. You need bimax, zygo augmentation, and possibly jaw augmentation to have enough skin stretching to fix your issues. A quick solution would be buccal fat removal but it's not a good long term solution.

One name - Willem Dafoe
God tier ideal cheekbones from front -

Downward grown from the side -

 

[Henry77]

Yes but having a flat maxilla will pronounce your humpy nose. Like Sean O'Pry has a massive nose but his maxilla is so forward grown that it's actually aesthetic on him. The same nose on someone with a flat maxilla would look like shit:

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Yes but what can cause me downward growth? My midface ratio is like 1:1 mostly so?

 

[Deleted member 15081]

Yes but having a flat maxilla will pronounce your humpy nose. Like Sean O'Pry has a massive nose but his maxilla is so forward grown that it's actually aesthetic on him. The same nose on someone with a flat maxilla would look like shit:

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The second guy has a more prominent hump and his nose is downturned, hence the extra prominence of the nose, could also be because O'pry has a sharp nose tip with a non-bulbous tip

 

[Deleted member 7725]

One name - Willem Dafoe
God tier ideal cheekbones from front -
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Downward grown from the side -
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He's like 60 years old. Obviously he's going to have hollow cheeks .

 

[Deleted member 7725]

The second guy has a more prominent hump and his nose is downturned, hence the extra prominence of the nose, could also be because O'pry has a sharp nose tip with a non-bulbous tip

Their noses are exactly the same. Only difference is the maxilla growth behind it.

 

[Henry77]

Yes but having a flat maxilla will pronounce your humpy nose. Like Sean O'Pry has a massive nose but his maxilla is so forward grown that it's actually aesthetic on him. The same nose on someone with a flat maxilla would look like shit:

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Also how can i determine if my maxilla is recessed or not?

 

[Deleted member 15081]

He's like 60 years old. Obviously he's going to have hollow cheeks .

Bruh he literally has the same cheekbones that @Kingkellz describes as the 'perfect male cheekbones'. Sharpness of the zygomatic bones cannot be replicated by loss in collagen

 

[oldcelloser]

It looks good, but here's him a few years later. Notice the premature aging and gaunt look:

oh noooo, look at this guy, he's so old and ugly, im sure no hot girl will ever allow him PiV (which is all that matters) ever again
he's so old and ugly ewwww


TL;DR : you are batshit crazy OP and this is posibly the biggest autismo post ive ever seen here

 

[Deleted member 7725]

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oh noooo, look at this guy, he's so old and ugly, im sure no hot girl will ever allow him PiV (which is all that matters) ever again
he's so old and ugly ewwww


TL;DR : you are batshit crazy OP and this is posibly the biggest autismo post ive ever seen here

He literally descended a whole PSL.

Obviously he can still get girls if he went from 5.75 to 4.75 PSL, but had gotten bimax instead he would've been 6 PSL right now.

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

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this picture leads me to believe the premaxilla matters more than the mandible forward growth

 

[Deleted member 7725]

this picture leads me to believe the premaxilla matters more than the mandible forward growth

He has textbook downward growth.

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

He has textbook downward growth.

still has hollow cheeks which is carried by good premaxilla

 

[LifeIsACope]

You won't find a single recessed person with hollow cheeks. Take this guy. Here he's at around 8-12% bodyfat. Just look at his face:

View attachment 1283688View attachment 1283693View attachment 1283695View attachment 1283701

Completely bloated and boneless. No hollow cheeks, zygos, or jawline in sight. Here's him once he gains a few pounds:

View attachment 1283703

Why does this happen? Let's take a look at his side profile:

View attachment 1283705View attachment 1283706View attachment 1283707

A recessed maxilla, downward grown, recessed chin. Let's take another example. Here's Elvis at 21 years of age:

View attachment 1283708View attachment 1283718

Looks pretty bloated. Let's take a look at his side:

View attachment 1283709View attachment 1283710

What'd you expect?

Now let's take a look at someone who tried to cheat his bone structure. Notice the bloated face, downward grown maxilla, chin, etc.

View attachment 1283740View attachment 1283741
View attachment 1283742View attachment 1283744

Here's him after modeling for some time and presumably getting buccal fat removal to unnaturally achieve hollow cheeks to fit the model industry standard:

View attachment 1283745View attachment 1283746View attachment 1283747View attachment 1283748

It looks good, but here's him a few years later. Notice the premature aging and gaunt look:

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TL;DR - You're not "bloated". You just have a recessed maxilla causing your skin to sag over your face and deep nasolabial folds giving you a bloated appearance. You need bimax, zygo augmentation, and possibly jaw augmentation to have enough skin stretching to fix your issues. A quick solution would be buccal fat removal but it's not a good long term solution.

So buccal fat removal is just a short term solution that fucks u even harder at the end

 

[Deleted member 13710]

Where's the top tier forward growth? She has a big droopy nose as a result of a flat maxilla.

She's had substantial work done to her face, including a rhinoplasty. Before that, she had some obviously African features that didn't flatter her "model look." Search for young photos of her. Her bones are obviously very well-developed, though.

 

[Cristiano88]

@LooksOverAll
Do you think fillers can be usefull in a case of flat maxilla?

By just flat i mean it s not recessed. It s bad but not very bad?
Or is surgery the only solution...

 

[Deleted member 7725]

@LooksOverAll
Do you think fillers can be usefull in a case of flat maxilla?

By just flat i mean it s not recessed. It s bad but not very bad?
Or is surgery the only solution...

Fillers are possible but surgery is the best option.

 

[one job away]

You won't find a single recessed person with hollow cheeks.

i beg to differ

 

[Deleted member 7725]

i beg to differ

Who?

 

[one job away]

Who?

i beg to differ

^
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This handsome little fella

 

[spark]

Where's the top tier forward growth? She has a big droopy nose as a result of a flat maxilla.

keep crying for this superior goddess

 

[Deleted member 7725]

^
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This handsome little fella

Neither your lower maxilla or mandible are recessed, at least not badly. You just have SFS.

 

[one job away]

Neither your lower maxilla or mandible are recessed, at least not badly. You just have SFS.

1) I identify as recessed. Respect that

2) health care is paying for my bimax.
who is not recessed here now huh?