11kg in 8 weeks - LGD4033 Beginner cycle BEFORE AND AFTER PICS

[arabcell]

hey bro i got money for a test base/pct, do you think enclo will still be fine? considering how it has worse side effects than LGD like you said? im too pussy to inject, so please recommend any orals

also my log

LGD4033 CYCLE LOG - 17M 5mg ED

The awaited log is here. Today (21 august thursday) is officially a week from when i first started my lgd4033 cycle of 5mg every day for hopefully 8 weeks long. Stats: 193cm, 17 years old male, 110g-150g of protein on average (i know this is bad but im very busy and my parents are cucking me...

looksmax.org

 

[Linus1888]

hey bro i got money for a test base/pct, do you think enclo will still be fine? considering how it has worse side effects than LGD like you said? im too pussy to inject, so please recommend any orals

also my log

LGD4033 CYCLE LOG - 17M 5mg ED

The awaited log is here. Today (21 august thursday) is officially a week from when i first started my lgd4033 cycle of 5mg every day for hopefully 8 weeks long. Stats: 193cm, 17 years old male, 110g-150g of protein on average (i know this is bad but im very busy and my parents are cucking me...

looksmax.org

you should grow the balls for the test base. It will benefit your life a lot more, I tought the same way and pussied out to take the enclo but test is safer.
Otherwise do the same as me and take enclo but my penis still hasnt recoverd and im lacking blood flow down there because of the E2.

please take test otherwise if youre mentally not there take the enclo it wont kill you but its not my recommendation

 

[kurd]

THE LGD-4033 CYCLE LOG


From skinny Framelet to being accused of Roiding within 8 weeks
​

---

Quick Intro to this: I was 16, 186cm and about 68-69kg. I was deep into training but that was already a year ago so I decided to hop on a cycle to get my old gains back quicker, but it actually got me multiple steroid accusations; for every week I’ve trained people around me would’ve only achieved in about 4 weeks.

So lets get into it

Cycle and a lot of info by @Jonasㅤㅤ

Why LGD-4033?​

​

​

Highly anabolic SARM with human studies and well-documented strength and size gains​

Good oral bioavailability (no injections - the reason I went with this cycle)​

Milder on lipids & liver than most orals​

Goal of the cycle: at least 77kg to get to a normal BMI (always been underweight my whole life)​

​

Cycle Outline​

​

Compounds: LGD-4033 (Ligandrol) and Enclomiphene​

Dose: 10 mg of LGD and 12.5 mg of Enclo ED​

Length: 8 weeks (boosted myself up 2 weeks prior with Enclo (25 mg) EOD)​

Administration: in the morning, mostly on an empty stomach (obviously not optimal)​

​

Training & Diet​

​

Program: Upper/Lower, 5× a week​

Full Split:​

​

Spoiler

UPPER:​

Incline chest press × 1​

Lateral raises × 1​

Chest Fly × 1​

Lat pulldown × 1​

Machine shoulder press × 1​

Preacher curl × 1​

Long-head-bias tricep extension × 1​

Upper-back row × 1​

Tricep push-down × 1​

Sagittal-plane row × 1​

Rear-delt fly × 1​

​

LOWER:​

Leg extension × 1​

Leg press × 2​

Ham curl × 1​

Hip adduction × 1​

Hip hinge × 1​

Calf raise × 1​

Ab crunch × 1​

Reverse curl × 1​

Wrist curl × 1​

​

​

Calories: Started with about 400+ maintenance calories but dropped it out of laziness​

Sleep target: 8 h nightly​

​

On Cycle​

​

About 2 days after my first pill of LGD I had an extremely bad salivary-gland inflammation; I ate not a single thing for about 5 days and then only slowly got back on track after that. It was a blessing in disguise, which was also why I dropped the bulk, the fasting melted a lot of fat off my body so that was literally God making me shredded. I’d say I probably dropped 2.5+% bodyfat from that.​

​

My skin got really messed on cycle tho; my forehead got extremely dry and was full of acne which I’ve never had before. My traps also got a lot of acne which is why people accused me of blasting actual roids because it literally looks like roid skin sadly.​

​

The biggest side effect I got was the ungodly amount of hair I’ve gotten all across my body. I never heard anybody mention that they got excessive body hair from SARMs but I got absolutely wrecked with that. I’d say my leg hairs probably tripled in density and my forearm has at least double the hair now. I hope that stuff is not permanent.​

​

I got pretty substantial Erectile Dysfunction but I also gooned every single day on cycle so that could also have been the cause.​

​

I also grew to 187 cm which is pretty nice, so +1 cm.​

​

Results​

​

Weight: 79kg (+11kg)​

Height: 187cm (+1cm)​

Bicep Circumfrence: Left: 36.5cm (+2cm) Right: 36cm (+1.5cm) (my arms are my weak point)​

Ass circumfrence: Skeleton ass to Big Fat and Juicy PAWG ass​

​

PICTURES HERE:​

​

Spoiler

This was me 8 days before LGD so i took enclo only twice​

View attachment 3916895​

​

This was me today, 1 day after the 60 day cycle. Obviously im flexing here so its not a fully fair comparison but my shoulders deffinetly made the most gains even though theyre still a weakpoint. LGD also made my trap bigger on the side i wear my gym bag thats how fucking potent it is.​

View attachment 3916901​

This is from the same date as the first pic​

View attachment 3916905​

​

This aswell​

View attachment 3916906​

​

This was made mid-end of cycle, i dont have a lot of back pics sadly so this will have to do.​

View attachment 3916908​

Same date as abouve​

View attachment 3916909​

​

The following pics are all from today​

View attachment 3916913​

​

Natty lighting no flexing:​

View attachment 3916917​

Me as im Writing the thread:​

View attachment 3916921​

View attachment 3916923​

​

​

​

My advice to you​

I didnt know that Enclomiphene can cause growth plates to close prematurely and that it is apparently extremly bad in every aspect, before the cycle (or even during it) so i dont know if this exact cycle could be recommended. But what i can recommend is LGD, I didnt really talk about the strenght gains but the strenght you experience in the first 3 weeks is INSANE. I was litterally doing 5kg+ on everything from workout to workout (doing 5 a week btw). This didnt last very long sadly.
If you wanna actually do a first cycle id just opt with testosterone and maybe anavar. If youre scared of needles practice injecting peptides and then just dont be a pussy when you have to do an actual intra muscular injection for test.

To any actual roiders: I'll deffinetly drop the Enclo next time, will still use it for the PCT tho.


Ask me anything, ill always reply

@Hernan @chadbeingmade @halloweed @jeff1234 @Jonasㅤㅤ

---

TL;DR
16yo, grew 1cm, gained about 10kg of LBM while losing bodyfat. Big strenght increases. Got hairy and gooned everyday. Got accused of steroids a lot. No big side effects except skin is worse. great experience

Mirin

 

[C3PO]

Modest to moderate decline of igf-1 expected at the 4-6 week mark.

Anavar has better human studies than Lgd so it’s sadly not such a great comparison. Sarms aren’t a „cheat code“ PED, don’t think of it that way you will the suppressed either way.

Anavar is more harsher on the lipids and liver than lgd.

different compound for different goals.

I chose anavar here as it’s the most popular oral steroid here

Sorry for necro, how many mg test base for lgd

 

[Linus1888]

Sorry for necro, how many mg test base for lgd

Just do 500mg. Ig 250 would be enough aswell

 

[sexgod]

'mirin, doing rad at 16 myself rn

 

[tayolite]

THE LGD-4033 CYCLE LOG


From skinny Framelet to being accused of Roiding within 8 weeks
​

---

Quick Intro to this: I was 16, 186cm and about 68-69kg. I was deep into training but that was already a year ago so I decided to hop on a cycle to get my old gains back quicker, but it actually got me multiple steroid accusations; for every week I’ve trained people around me would’ve only achieved in about 4 weeks.

So lets get into it

Cycle and a lot of info by @Jonasㅤㅤ

Why LGD-4033?​

​

​

Highly anabolic SARM with human studies and well-documented strength and size gains​

Good oral bioavailability (no injections - the reason I went with this cycle)​

Milder on lipids & liver than most orals​

Goal of the cycle: at least 77kg to get to a normal BMI (always been underweight my whole life)​

​

Cycle Outline​

​

Compounds: LGD-4033 (Ligandrol) and Enclomiphene​

Dose: 10 mg of LGD and 12.5 mg of Enclo ED​

Length: 8 weeks (boosted myself up 2 weeks prior with Enclo (25 mg) EOD)​

Administration: in the morning, mostly on an empty stomach (obviously not optimal)​

​

Training & Diet​

​

Program: Upper/Lower, 5× a week​

Full Split:​

​

Spoiler

UPPER:​

Incline chest press × 1​

Lateral raises × 1​

Chest Fly × 1​

Lat pulldown × 1​

Machine shoulder press × 1​

Preacher curl × 1​

Long-head-bias tricep extension × 1​

Upper-back row × 1​

Tricep push-down × 1​

Sagittal-plane row × 1​

Rear-delt fly × 1​

​

LOWER:​

Leg extension × 1​

Leg press × 2​

Ham curl × 1​

Hip adduction × 1​

Hip hinge × 1​

Calf raise × 1​

Ab crunch × 1​

Reverse curl × 1​

Wrist curl × 1​

​

​

Calories: Started with about 400+ maintenance calories but dropped it out of laziness​

Sleep target: 8 h nightly​

​

On Cycle​

​

About 2 days after my first pill of LGD I had an extremely bad salivary-gland inflammation; I ate not a single thing for about 5 days and then only slowly got back on track after that. It was a blessing in disguise, which was also why I dropped the bulk, the fasting melted a lot of fat off my body so that was literally God making me shredded. I’d say I probably dropped 2.5+% bodyfat from that.​

​

My skin got really messed on cycle tho; my forehead got extremely dry and was full of acne which I’ve never had before. My traps also got a lot of acne which is why people accused me of blasting actual roids because it literally looks like roid skin sadly.​

​

The biggest side effect I got was the ungodly amount of hair I’ve gotten all across my body. I never heard anybody mention that they got excessive body hair from SARMs but I got absolutely wrecked with that. I’d say my leg hairs probably tripled in density and my forearm has at least double the hair now. I hope that stuff is not permanent.​

​

I got pretty substantial Erectile Dysfunction but I also gooned every single day on cycle so that could also have been the cause.​

​

I also grew to 187 cm which is pretty nice, so +1 cm.​

​

Results​

​

Weight: 79kg (+11kg)​

Height: 187cm (+1cm)​

Bicep Circumfrence: Left: 36.5cm (+2cm) Right: 36cm (+1.5cm) (my arms are my weak point)​

Ass circumfrence: Skeleton ass to Big Fat and Juicy PAWG ass​

​

PICTURES HERE:​

​

Spoiler

This was me 8 days before LGD so i took enclo only twice​

View attachment 3916895​

​

This was me today, 1 day after the 60 day cycle. Obviously im flexing here so its not a fully fair comparison but my shoulders deffinetly made the most gains even though theyre still a weakpoint. LGD also made my trap bigger on the side i wear my gym bag thats how fucking potent it is.​

View attachment 3916901​

This is from the same date as the first pic​

View attachment 3916905​

​

This aswell​

View attachment 3916906​

​

This was made mid-end of cycle, i dont have a lot of back pics sadly so this will have to do.​

View attachment 3916908​

Same date as abouve​

View attachment 3916909​

​

The following pics are all from today​

View attachment 3916913​

​

Natty lighting no flexing:​

View attachment 3916917​

Me as im Writing the thread:​

View attachment 3916921​

View attachment 3916923​

​

​

​

My advice to you​

I didnt know that Enclomiphene can cause growth plates to close prematurely and that it is apparently extremly bad in every aspect, before the cycle (or even during it) so i dont know if this exact cycle could be recommended. But what i can recommend is LGD, I didnt really talk about the strenght gains but the strenght you experience in the first 3 weeks is INSANE. I was litterally doing 5kg+ on everything from workout to workout (doing 5 a week btw). This didnt last very long sadly.
If you wanna actually do a first cycle id just opt with testosterone and maybe anavar. If youre scared of needles practice injecting peptides and then just dont be a pussy when you have to do an actual intra muscular injection for test.

To any actual roiders: I'll deffinetly drop the Enclo next time, will still use it for the PCT tho.


Ask me anything, ill always reply

@Hernan @chadbeingmade @halloweed @jeff1234 @Jonasㅤㅤ

---

TL;DR
16yo, grew 1cm, gained about 10kg of LBM while losing bodyfat. Big strenght increases. Got hairy and gooned everyday. Got accused of steroids a lot. No big side effects except skin is worse. great experience

mirin the results I was about to do a rad cycle as I have similar pre stats to you, can I ask some questions in pms?

 

[tayolite]

THE LGD-4033 CYCLE LOG


From skinny Framelet to being accused of Roiding within 8 weeks
​

---

Quick Intro to this: I was 16, 186cm and about 68-69kg. I was deep into training but that was already a year ago so I decided to hop on a cycle to get my old gains back quicker, but it actually got me multiple steroid accusations; for every week I’ve trained people around me would’ve only achieved in about 4 weeks.

So lets get into it

Cycle and a lot of info by @Jonasㅤㅤ

Why LGD-4033?​

​

​

Highly anabolic SARM with human studies and well-documented strength and size gains​

Good oral bioavailability (no injections - the reason I went with this cycle)​

Milder on lipids & liver than most orals​

Goal of the cycle: at least 77kg to get to a normal BMI (always been underweight my whole life)​

​

Cycle Outline​

​

Compounds: LGD-4033 (Ligandrol) and Enclomiphene​

Dose: 10 mg of LGD and 12.5 mg of Enclo ED​

Length: 8 weeks (boosted myself up 2 weeks prior with Enclo (25 mg) EOD)​

Administration: in the morning, mostly on an empty stomach (obviously not optimal)​

​

Training & Diet​

​

Program: Upper/Lower, 5× a week​

Full Split:​

​

Spoiler

UPPER:​

Incline chest press × 1​

Lateral raises × 1​

Chest Fly × 1​

Lat pulldown × 1​

Machine shoulder press × 1​

Preacher curl × 1​

Long-head-bias tricep extension × 1​

Upper-back row × 1​

Tricep push-down × 1​

Sagittal-plane row × 1​

Rear-delt fly × 1​

​

LOWER:​

Leg extension × 1​

Leg press × 2​

Ham curl × 1​

Hip adduction × 1​

Hip hinge × 1​

Calf raise × 1​

Ab crunch × 1​

Reverse curl × 1​

Wrist curl × 1​

​

​

Calories: Started with about 400+ maintenance calories but dropped it out of laziness​

Sleep target: 8 h nightly​

​

On Cycle​

​

About 2 days after my first pill of LGD I had an extremely bad salivary-gland inflammation; I ate not a single thing for about 5 days and then only slowly got back on track after that. It was a blessing in disguise, which was also why I dropped the bulk, the fasting melted a lot of fat off my body so that was literally God making me shredded. I’d say I probably dropped 2.5+% bodyfat from that.​

​

My skin got really messed on cycle tho; my forehead got extremely dry and was full of acne which I’ve never had before. My traps also got a lot of acne which is why people accused me of blasting actual roids because it literally looks like roid skin sadly.​

​

The biggest side effect I got was the ungodly amount of hair I’ve gotten all across my body. I never heard anybody mention that they got excessive body hair from SARMs but I got absolutely wrecked with that. I’d say my leg hairs probably tripled in density and my forearm has at least double the hair now. I hope that stuff is not permanent.​

​

I got pretty substantial Erectile Dysfunction but I also gooned every single day on cycle so that could also have been the cause.​

​

I also grew to 187 cm which is pretty nice, so +1 cm.​

​

Results​

​

Weight: 79kg (+11kg)​

Height: 187cm (+1cm)​

Bicep Circumfrence: Left: 36.5cm (+2cm) Right: 36cm (+1.5cm) (my arms are my weak point)​

Ass circumfrence: Skeleton ass to Big Fat and Juicy PAWG ass​

​

PICTURES HERE:​

​

Spoiler

This was me 8 days before LGD so i took enclo only twice​

View attachment 3916895​

​

This was me today, 1 day after the 60 day cycle. Obviously im flexing here so its not a fully fair comparison but my shoulders deffinetly made the most gains even though theyre still a weakpoint. LGD also made my trap bigger on the side i wear my gym bag thats how fucking potent it is.​

View attachment 3916901​

This is from the same date as the first pic​

View attachment 3916905​

​

This aswell​

View attachment 3916906​

​

This was made mid-end of cycle, i dont have a lot of back pics sadly so this will have to do.​

View attachment 3916908​

Same date as abouve​

View attachment 3916909​

​

The following pics are all from today​

View attachment 3916913​

​

Natty lighting no flexing:​

View attachment 3916917​

Me as im Writing the thread:​

View attachment 3916921​

View attachment 3916923​

​

​

​

My advice to you​

I didnt know that Enclomiphene can cause growth plates to close prematurely and that it is apparently extremly bad in every aspect, before the cycle (or even during it) so i dont know if this exact cycle could be recommended. But what i can recommend is LGD, I didnt really talk about the strenght gains but the strenght you experience in the first 3 weeks is INSANE. I was litterally doing 5kg+ on everything from workout to workout (doing 5 a week btw). This didnt last very long sadly.
If you wanna actually do a first cycle id just opt with testosterone and maybe anavar. If youre scared of needles practice injecting peptides and then just dont be a pussy when you have to do an actual intra muscular injection for test.

To any actual roiders: I'll deffinetly drop the Enclo next time, will still use it for the PCT tho.


Ask me anything, ill always reply

@Hernan @chadbeingmade @halloweed @jeff1234 @Jonasㅤㅤ

---

TL;DR
16yo, grew 1cm, gained about 10kg of LBM while losing bodyfat. Big strenght increases. Got hairy and gooned everyday. Got accused of steroids a lot. No big side effects except skin is worse. great experience

mirin the results, I'm 18 with similar pre stats as you although I'm 185cm was thinking of doing rad but after coming across this might reconsider, can I ask some questions in pm?

 

[Linus1888]

mirin the results, I'm 18 with similar pre stats as you although I'm 185cm was thinking of doing rad but after coming across this might reconsider, can I ask some questions in pm?

Yeah pm me, no worries

 

[2 unknown slayer]

THE LGD-4033 CYCLE LOG


From skinny Framelet to being accused of Roiding within 8 weeks
​

---

Quick Intro to this: I was 16, 186cm and about 68-69kg. I was deep into training but that was already a year ago so I decided to hop on a cycle to get my old gains back quicker, but it actually got me multiple steroid accusations; for every week I’ve trained people around me would’ve only achieved in about 4 weeks.

So lets get into it

Cycle and a lot of info by @Jonasㅤㅤ

Why LGD-4033?​

​

​

Highly anabolic SARM with human studies and well-documented strength and size gains​

Good oral bioavailability (no injections - the reason I went with this cycle)​

Milder on lipids & liver than most orals​

Goal of the cycle: at least 77kg to get to a normal BMI (always been underweight my whole life)​

​

Cycle Outline​

​

Compounds: LGD-4033 (Ligandrol) and Enclomiphene​

Dose: 10 mg of LGD and 12.5 mg of Enclo ED​

Length: 8 weeks (boosted myself up 2 weeks prior with Enclo (25 mg) EOD)​

Administration: in the morning, mostly on an empty stomach (obviously not optimal)​

​

Training & Diet​

​

Program: Upper/Lower, 5× a week​

Full Split:​

​

Spoiler

UPPER:​

Incline chest press × 1​

Lateral raises × 1​

Chest Fly × 1​

Lat pulldown × 1​

Machine shoulder press × 1​

Preacher curl × 1​

Long-head-bias tricep extension × 1​

Upper-back row × 1​

Tricep push-down × 1​

Sagittal-plane row × 1​

Rear-delt fly × 1​

​

LOWER:​

Leg extension × 1​

Leg press × 2​

Ham curl × 1​

Hip adduction × 1​

Hip hinge × 1​

Calf raise × 1​

Ab crunch × 1​

Reverse curl × 1​

Wrist curl × 1​

​

​

Calories: Started with about 400+ maintenance calories but dropped it out of laziness​

Sleep target: 8 h nightly​

​

On Cycle​

​

About 2 days after my first pill of LGD I had an extremely bad salivary-gland inflammation; I ate not a single thing for about 5 days and then only slowly got back on track after that. It was a blessing in disguise, which was also why I dropped the bulk, the fasting melted a lot of fat off my body so that was literally God making me shredded. I’d say I probably dropped 2.5+% bodyfat from that.​

​

My skin got really messed on cycle tho; my forehead got extremely dry and was full of acne which I’ve never had before. My traps also got a lot of acne which is why people accused me of blasting actual roids because it literally looks like roid skin sadly.​

​

The biggest side effect I got was the ungodly amount of hair I’ve gotten all across my body. I never heard anybody mention that they got excessive body hair from SARMs but I got absolutely wrecked with that. I’d say my leg hairs probably tripled in density and my forearm has at least double the hair now. I hope that stuff is not permanent.​

​

I got pretty substantial Erectile Dysfunction but I also gooned every single day on cycle so that could also have been the cause.​

​

I also grew to 187 cm which is pretty nice, so +1 cm.​

​

Results​

​

Weight: 79kg (+11kg)​

Height: 187cm (+1cm)​

Bicep Circumfrence: Left: 36.5cm (+2cm) Right: 36cm (+1.5cm) (my arms are my weak point)​

Ass circumfrence: Skeleton ass to Big Fat and Juicy PAWG ass​

​

PICTURES HERE:​

​

Spoiler

This was me 8 days before LGD so i took enclo only twice​

View attachment 3916895​

​

This was me today, 1 day after the 60 day cycle. Obviously im flexing here so its not a fully fair comparison but my shoulders deffinetly made the most gains even though theyre still a weakpoint. LGD also made my trap bigger on the side i wear my gym bag thats how fucking potent it is.​

View attachment 3916901​

This is from the same date as the first pic​

View attachment 3916905​

​

This aswell​

View attachment 3916906​

​

This was made mid-end of cycle, i dont have a lot of back pics sadly so this will have to do.​

View attachment 3916908​

Same date as abouve​

View attachment 3916909​

​

The following pics are all from today​

View attachment 3916913​

​

Natty lighting no flexing:​

View attachment 3916917​

Me as im Writing the thread:​

View attachment 3916921​

View attachment 3916923​

​

​

​

My advice to you​

I didnt know that Enclomiphene can cause growth plates to close prematurely and that it is apparently extremly bad in every aspect, before the cycle (or even during it) so i dont know if this exact cycle could be recommended. But what i can recommend is LGD, I didnt really talk about the strenght gains but the strenght you experience in the first 3 weeks is INSANE. I was litterally doing 5kg+ on everything from workout to workout (doing 5 a week btw). This didnt last very long sadly.
If you wanna actually do a first cycle id just opt with testosterone and maybe anavar. If youre scared of needles practice injecting peptides and then just dont be a pussy when you have to do an actual intra muscular injection for test.

To any actual roiders: I'll deffinetly drop the Enclo next time, will still use it for the PCT tho.


Ask me anything, ill always reply

@Hernan @chadbeingmade @halloweed @jeff1234 @Jonasㅤㅤ

---

TL;DR
16yo, grew 1cm, gained about 10kg of LBM while losing bodyfat. Big strenght increases. Got hairy and gooned everyday. Got accused of steroids a lot. No big side effects except skin is worse. great experience

Ahh another gymcel with actually good progress, what would u recommend for face? Did u see any big improvements in your face while on or just bloating?

 

[Linus1888]

Ahh another gymcel with actually good progress, what would u recommend for face? Did u see any big improvements in your face while on or just bloating?

No gym for the face

My face didn’t change even a smidge.
I guess test is the only way but it won’t change your bones just dimorphism from what I know

 

[william.]

I mog u natty

 

[Linus1888]

I mog u natty

Ok

 

[medialcanthus]

You can hit me up in dms if you want.

I’m gonna explain it here maybe I’ll yap too much.

The salivary gland infection due to 90% certainty did not have anything to do with the LGD or the enclo. However, I find it a bit suspicious that immediately after starting that or like a week after I experience such a problem for some reason this happens to me pretty often after I take some thing new for example even with BPC157 which is supposed to have barely any side effects. Usually, the only side effect of you will experience is erectile dysfunction, which should disappear afterwards it did for me naturally I did not really experience ED but just less blood flow down there. Acne aswell which will also disappear afterward, like 90% of it

about to save and start in 3-4 weeks from now and im currently on a bulk

do you recommend bloodwork pre cycle? and you mentioned test before the LGD because its safer
How would i go about that? I dont goon and am lowkey volcel rn but im still worried about the dih side effects.
As well as that i am 16 and somewhat of a late bloomer, i am expecting most of my height gains and bone maturity soon as i am already noticing significant changes

i dont want to be at risk of early plate closure, im not opposed to test, but i would rather have temporary ED than lose a couple inches or bone maturity

lmk pls also how many weeks of enclo pct do u rec? 2 or 4?

 

[Linus1888]

about to save and start in 3-4 weeks from now and im currently on a bulk

do you recommend bloodwork pre cycle? and you mentioned test before the LGD because its safer
How would i go about that? I dont goon and am lowkey volcel rn but im still worried about the dih side effects.
As well as that i am 16 and somewhat of a late bloomer, i am expecting most of my height gains and bone maturity soon as i am already noticing significant changes

i dont want to be at risk of early plate closure, im not opposed to test, but i would rather have temporary ED than lose a couple inches or bone maturity

lmk pls also how many weeks of enclo pct do u rec? 2 or 4?

enclo and test will both raise your estrogen thus leading to premature plate closure.

To fix this you will need an AI and taking an AI with enclo would be retarded asf. You dont drive a lambo and insted of buying lambo seats you use the old ones from your prius.

Bloodwork is ofcourse recommended but I did not have the money for it and for this cycle there really isnt that much that could go wrong.
I would definettly check Test, free test, SHBG, LSH and FSH. Before and after


I took enclo for 2 weeks before, during the 8 weeks of the cycle and then 1week ED and another week EOD. So 11.5 weeks of enclo.


Your cycle should look like this: Test, LGD, AI (+HCG to prevent testicular atrophy)

 

[medialcanthus]

enclo and test will both raise your estrogen thus leading to premature plate closure.

To fix this you will need an AI and taking an AI with enclo would be retarded asf. You dont drive a lambo and insted of buying lambo seats you use the old ones from your prius.

Bloodwork is ofcourse recommended but I did not have the money for it and for this cycle there really isnt that much that could go wrong.
I would definettly check Test, free test, SHBG, LSH and FSH. Before and after


I took enclo for 2 weeks before, during the 8 weeks of the cycle and then 1week ED and another week EOD. So 11.5 weeks of enclo.


Your cycle should look like this: Test, LGD, AI (+HCG to prevent testicular atrophy)

gpt is being retarded and telling me test will close my plates prematurely


as for enclo thats a no brainer here but its telling me to use enclo as PCT for 2-4 weeks claiming im fried if i did 11.5 (without test)

as for hcg no problems hcg is cheap and easy to slot in

its basically saying this stack is only ideal or safe once you're mature

 

[chulutho]

THE LGD-4033 CYCLE LOG


From skinny Framelet to being accused of Roiding within 8 weeks
​

---

Quick Intro to this: I was 16, 186cm and about 68-69kg. I was deep into training but that was already a year ago so I decided to hop on a cycle to get my old gains back quicker, but it actually got me multiple steroid accusations; for every week I’ve trained people around me would’ve only achieved in about 4 weeks.

So lets get into it

Cycle and a lot of info by @Jonasㅤㅤ

Why LGD-4033?​

​

​

Highly anabolic SARM with human studies and well-documented strength and size gains​

Good oral bioavailability (no injections - the reason I went with this cycle)​

Milder on lipids & liver than most orals​

Goal of the cycle: at least 77kg to get to a normal BMI (always been underweight my whole life)​

​

Cycle Outline​

​

Compounds: LGD-4033 (Ligandrol) and Enclomiphene​

Dose: 10 mg of LGD and 12.5 mg of Enclo ED​

Length: 8 weeks (boosted myself up 2 weeks prior with Enclo (25 mg) EOD)​

Administration: in the morning, mostly on an empty stomach (obviously not optimal)​

​

Training & Diet​

​

Program: Upper/Lower, 5× a week​

Full Split:​

​

Spoiler

UPPER:​

Incline chest press × 1​

Lateral raises × 1​

Chest Fly × 1​

Lat pulldown × 1​

Machine shoulder press × 1​

Preacher curl × 1​

Long-head-bias tricep extension × 1​

Upper-back row × 1​

Tricep push-down × 1​

Sagittal-plane row × 1​

Rear-delt fly × 1​

​

LOWER:​

Leg extension × 1​

Leg press × 2​

Ham curl × 1​

Hip adduction × 1​

Hip hinge × 1​

Calf raise × 1​

Ab crunch × 1​

Reverse curl × 1​

Wrist curl × 1​

​

​

Calories: Started with about 400+ maintenance calories but dropped it out of laziness​

Sleep target: 8 h nightly​

​

On Cycle​

​

About 2 days after my first pill of LGD I had an extremely bad salivary-gland inflammation; I ate not a single thing for about 5 days and then only slowly got back on track after that. It was a blessing in disguise, which was also why I dropped the bulk, the fasting melted a lot of fat off my body so that was literally God making me shredded. I’d say I probably dropped 2.5+% bodyfat from that.​

​

My skin got really messed on cycle tho; my forehead got extremely dry and was full of acne which I’ve never had before. My traps also got a lot of acne which is why people accused me of blasting actual roids because it literally looks like roid skin sadly.​

​

The biggest side effect I got was the ungodly amount of hair I’ve gotten all across my body. I never heard anybody mention that they got excessive body hair from SARMs but I got absolutely wrecked with that. I’d say my leg hairs probably tripled in density and my forearm has at least double the hair now. I hope that stuff is not permanent.​

​

I got pretty substantial Erectile Dysfunction but I also gooned every single day on cycle so that could also have been the cause.​

​

I also grew to 187 cm which is pretty nice, so +1 cm.​

​

Results​

​

Weight: 79kg (+11kg)​

Height: 187cm (+1cm)​

Bicep Circumfrence: Left: 36.5cm (+2cm) Right: 36cm (+1.5cm) (my arms are my weak point)​

Ass circumfrence: Skeleton ass to Big Fat and Juicy PAWG ass​

​

PICTURES HERE:​

​

Spoiler

This was me 8 days before LGD so i took enclo only twice​

View attachment 3916895​

​

This was me today, 1 day after the 60 day cycle. Obviously im flexing here so its not a fully fair comparison but my shoulders deffinetly made the most gains even though theyre still a weakpoint. LGD also made my trap bigger on the side i wear my gym bag thats how fucking potent it is.​

View attachment 3916901​

This is from the same date as the first pic​

View attachment 3916905​

​

This aswell​

View attachment 3916906​

​

This was made mid-end of cycle, i dont have a lot of back pics sadly so this will have to do.​

View attachment 3916908​

Same date as abouve​

View attachment 3916909​

​

The following pics are all from today​

View attachment 3916913​

​

Natty lighting no flexing:​

View attachment 3916917​

Me as im Writing the thread:​

View attachment 3916921​

View attachment 3916923​

​

​

​

My advice to you​

I didnt know that Enclomiphene can cause growth plates to close prematurely and that it is apparently extremly bad in every aspect, before the cycle (or even during it) so i dont know if this exact cycle could be recommended. But what i can recommend is LGD, I didnt really talk about the strenght gains but the strenght you experience in the first 3 weeks is INSANE. I was litterally doing 5kg+ on everything from workout to workout (doing 5 a week btw). This didnt last very long sadly.
If you wanna actually do a first cycle id just opt with testosterone and maybe anavar. If youre scared of needles practice injecting peptides and then just dont be a pussy when you have to do an actual intra muscular injection for test.

To any actual roiders: I'll deffinetly drop the Enclo next time, will still use it for the PCT tho.


Ask me anything, ill always reply

@Hernan @chadbeingmade @halloweed @jeff1234 @Jonasㅤㅤ

---

TL;DR
16yo, grew 1cm, gained about 10kg of LBM while losing bodyfat. Big strenght increases. Got hairy and gooned everyday. Got accused of steroids a lot. No big side effects except skin is worse. great experience

THE LGD-4033 CYCLE LOG


From skinny Framelet to being accused of Roiding within 8 weeks
​

---

Quick Intro to this: I was 16, 186cm and about 68-69kg. I was deep into training but that was already a year ago so I decided to hop on a cycle to get my old gains back quicker, but it actually got me multiple steroid accusations; for every week I’ve trained people around me would’ve only achieved in about 4 weeks.

So lets get into it

Cycle and a lot of info by @Jonasㅤㅤ

Why LGD-4033?​

​

​

Highly anabolic SARM with human studies and well-documented strength and size gains​

Good oral bioavailability (no injections - the reason I went with this cycle)​

Milder on lipids & liver than most orals​

Goal of the cycle: at least 77kg to get to a normal BMI (always been underweight my whole life)​

​

Cycle Outline​

​

Compounds: LGD-4033 (Ligandrol) and Enclomiphene​

Dose: 10 mg of LGD and 12.5 mg of Enclo ED​

Length: 8 weeks (boosted myself up 2 weeks prior with Enclo (25 mg) EOD)​

Administration: in the morning, mostly on an empty stomach (obviously not optimal)​

​

Training & Diet​

​

Program: Upper/Lower, 5× a week​

Full Split:​

​

Spoiler

UPPER:​

Incline chest press × 1​

Lateral raises × 1​

Chest Fly × 1​

Lat pulldown × 1​

Machine shoulder press × 1​

Preacher curl × 1​

Long-head-bias tricep extension × 1​

Upper-back row × 1​

Tricep push-down × 1​

Sagittal-plane row × 1​

Rear-delt fly × 1​

​

LOWER:​

Leg extension × 1​

Leg press × 2​

Ham curl × 1​

Hip adduction × 1​

Hip hinge × 1​

Calf raise × 1​

Ab crunch × 1​

Reverse curl × 1​

Wrist curl × 1​

​

​

Calories: Started with about 400+ maintenance calories but dropped it out of laziness​

Sleep target: 8 h nightly​

​

On Cycle​

​

About 2 days after my first pill of LGD I had an extremely bad salivary-gland inflammation; I ate not a single thing for about 5 days and then only slowly got back on track after that. It was a blessing in disguise, which was also why I dropped the bulk, the fasting melted a lot of fat off my body so that was literally God making me shredded. I’d say I probably dropped 2.5+% bodyfat from that.​

​

My skin got really messed on cycle tho; my forehead got extremely dry and was full of acne which I’ve never had before. My traps also got a lot of acne which is why people accused me of blasting actual roids because it literally looks like roid skin sadly.​

​

The biggest side effect I got was the ungodly amount of hair I’ve gotten all across my body. I never heard anybody mention that they got excessive body hair from SARMs but I got absolutely wrecked with that. I’d say my leg hairs probably tripled in density and my forearm has at least double the hair now. I hope that stuff is not permanent.​

​

I got pretty substantial Erectile Dysfunction but I also gooned every single day on cycle so that could also have been the cause.​

​

I also grew to 187 cm which is pretty nice, so +1 cm.​

​

Results​

​

Weight: 79kg (+11kg)​

Height: 187cm (+1cm)​

Bicep Circumfrence: Left: 36.5cm (+2cm) Right: 36cm (+1.5cm) (my arms are my weak point)​

Ass circumfrence: Skeleton ass to Big Fat and Juicy PAWG ass​

​

PICTURES HERE:​

​

Spoiler

This was me 8 days before LGD so i took enclo only twice​

View attachment 3916895​

​

This was me today, 1 day after the 60 day cycle. Obviously im flexing here so its not a fully fair comparison but my shoulders deffinetly made the most gains even though theyre still a weakpoint. LGD also made my trap bigger on the side i wear my gym bag thats how fucking potent it is.​

View attachment 3916901​

This is from the same date as the first pic​

View attachment 3916905​

​

This aswell​

View attachment 3916906​

​

This was made mid-end of cycle, i dont have a lot of back pics sadly so this will have to do.​

View attachment 3916908​

Same date as abouve​

View attachment 3916909​

​

The following pics are all from today​

View attachment 3916913​

​

Natty lighting no flexing:​

View attachment 3916917​

Me as im Writing the thread:​

View attachment 3916921​

View attachment 3916923​

​

​

​

My advice to you​

I didnt know that Enclomiphene can cause growth plates to close prematurely and that it is apparently extremly bad in every aspect, before the cycle (or even during it) so i dont know if this exact cycle could be recommended. But what i can recommend is LGD, I didnt really talk about the strenght gains but the strenght you experience in the first 3 weeks is INSANE. I was litterally doing 5kg+ on everything from workout to workout (doing 5 a week btw). This didnt last very long sadly.
If you wanna actually do a first cycle id just opt with testosterone and maybe anavar. If youre scared of needles practice injecting peptides and then just dont be a pussy when you have to do an actual intra muscular injection for test.

To any actual roiders: I'll deffinetly drop the Enclo next time, will still use it for the PCT tho.


Ask me anything, ill always reply

@Hernan @chadbeingmade @halloweed @jeff1234 @Jonasㅤㅤ

---

TL;DR
16yo, grew 1cm, gained about 10kg of LBM while losing bodyfat. Big strenght increases. Got hairy and gooned everyday. Got accused of steroids a lot. No big side effects except skin is worse. great experience

amazing thread. is

THE LGD-4033 CYCLE LOG


From skinny Framelet to being accused of Roiding within 8 weeks
​

---

Quick Intro to this: I was 16, 186cm and about 68-69kg. I was deep into training but that was already a year ago so I decided to hop on a cycle to get my old gains back quicker, but it actually got me multiple steroid accusations; for every week I’ve trained people around me would’ve only achieved in about 4 weeks.

So lets get into it

Cycle and a lot of info by @Jonasㅤㅤ

Why LGD-4033?​

​

​

Highly anabolic SARM with human studies and well-documented strength and size gains​

Good oral bioavailability (no injections - the reason I went with this cycle)​

Milder on lipids & liver than most orals​

Goal of the cycle: at least 77kg to get to a normal BMI (always been underweight my whole life)​

​

Cycle Outline​

​

Compounds: LGD-4033 (Ligandrol) and Enclomiphene​

Dose: 10 mg of LGD and 12.5 mg of Enclo ED​

Length: 8 weeks (boosted myself up 2 weeks prior with Enclo (25 mg) EOD)​

Administration: in the morning, mostly on an empty stomach (obviously not optimal)​

​

Training & Diet​

​

Program: Upper/Lower, 5× a week​

Full Split:​

​

Spoiler

UPPER:​

Incline chest press × 1​

Lateral raises × 1​

Chest Fly × 1​

Lat pulldown × 1​

Machine shoulder press × 1​

Preacher curl × 1​

Long-head-bias tricep extension × 1​

Upper-back row × 1​

Tricep push-down × 1​

Sagittal-plane row × 1​

Rear-delt fly × 1​

​

LOWER:​

Leg extension × 1​

Leg press × 2​

Ham curl × 1​

Hip adduction × 1​

Hip hinge × 1​

Calf raise × 1​

Ab crunch × 1​

Reverse curl × 1​

Wrist curl × 1​

​

​

Calories: Started with about 400+ maintenance calories but dropped it out of laziness​

Sleep target: 8 h nightly​

​

On Cycle​

​

About 2 days after my first pill of LGD I had an extremely bad salivary-gland inflammation; I ate not a single thing for about 5 days and then only slowly got back on track after that. It was a blessing in disguise, which was also why I dropped the bulk, the fasting melted a lot of fat off my body so that was literally God making me shredded. I’d say I probably dropped 2.5+% bodyfat from that.​

​

My skin got really messed on cycle tho; my forehead got extremely dry and was full of acne which I’ve never had before. My traps also got a lot of acne which is why people accused me of blasting actual roids because it literally looks like roid skin sadly.​

​

The biggest side effect I got was the ungodly amount of hair I’ve gotten all across my body. I never heard anybody mention that they got excessive body hair from SARMs but I got absolutely wrecked with that. I’d say my leg hairs probably tripled in density and my forearm has at least double the hair now. I hope that stuff is not permanent.​

​

I got pretty substantial Erectile Dysfunction but I also gooned every single day on cycle so that could also have been the cause.​

​

I also grew to 187 cm which is pretty nice, so +1 cm.​

​

Results​

​

Weight: 79kg (+11kg)​

Height: 187cm (+1cm)​

Bicep Circumfrence: Left: 36.5cm (+2cm) Right: 36cm (+1.5cm) (my arms are my weak point)​

Ass circumfrence: Skeleton ass to Big Fat and Juicy PAWG ass​

​

PICTURES HERE:​

​

Spoiler

This was me 8 days before LGD so i took enclo only twice​

View attachment 3916895​

​

This was me today, 1 day after the 60 day cycle. Obviously im flexing here so its not a fully fair comparison but my shoulders deffinetly made the most gains even though theyre still a weakpoint. LGD also made my trap bigger on the side i wear my gym bag thats how fucking potent it is.​

View attachment 3916901​

This is from the same date as the first pic​

View attachment 3916905​

​

This aswell​

View attachment 3916906​

​

This was made mid-end of cycle, i dont have a lot of back pics sadly so this will have to do.​

View attachment 3916908​

Same date as abouve​

View attachment 3916909​

​

The following pics are all from today​

View attachment 3916913​

​

Natty lighting no flexing:​

View attachment 3916917​

Me as im Writing the thread:​

View attachment 3916921​

View attachment 3916923​

​

​

​

My advice to you​

I didnt know that Enclomiphene can cause growth plates to close prematurely and that it is apparently extremly bad in every aspect, before the cycle (or even during it) so i dont know if this exact cycle could be recommended. But what i can recommend is LGD, I didnt really talk about the strenght gains but the strenght you experience in the first 3 weeks is INSANE. I was litterally doing 5kg+ on everything from workout to workout (doing 5 a week btw). This didnt last very long sadly.
If you wanna actually do a first cycle id just opt with testosterone and maybe anavar. If youre scared of needles practice injecting peptides and then just dont be a pussy when you have to do an actual intra muscular injection for test.

To any actual roiders: I'll deffinetly drop the Enclo next time, will still use it for the PCT tho.


Ask me anything, ill always reply

@Hernan @chadbeingmade @halloweed @jeff1234 @Jonasㅤㅤ

---

TL;DR
16yo, grew 1cm, gained about 10kg of LBM while losing bodyfat. Big strenght increases. Got hairy and gooned everyday. Got accused of steroids a lot. No big side effects except skin is worse. great experience

amazing thread. I have a few questions(excuse me if they are retarded); is enclo needed or recommended when taking lgd? and how does one take anavar and test without the side effects.

 

[Linus1888]

amazing thread. is

amazing thread. I have a few questions(excuse me if they are retarded); is enclo needed or recommended when taking lgd? and how does one take anavar and test without the side effects.

ligandrol supresses testosterone production; enclomiphene increases testosterone. The trick is to take enough enclomiphene or injectable testosterone that you are above or at your natural teststerone levels.

With enclomiphene you wanna be at or slightly above your natural levels and with injectable test you obviously wanna run way more.

so lgd crashes and enclo boost it back up so you dont feel like shit, you could also not use enclo but then you would have no motivation to train or do anything at all.


you will always have side effects with these things.
I would take Test P instead of Test E, The ester in test p is shorter so you have to inject more often (every days). With test E you would only have to inject every week.

Because you inject more often you will have your hormones at a more stable level and you wont experience probably any acne while on it.


anavar wont fuck you up rly but its harsh on the lipids, you could take a small dosage but i would rather stick with lgd4033. its safer overall

 

[FiendFiend]

THE LGD-4033 CYCLE LOG


From skinny Framelet to being accused of Roiding within 8 weeks
​

---

Quick Intro to this: I was 16, 186cm and about 68-69kg. I was deep into training but that was already a year ago so I decided to hop on a cycle to get my old gains back quicker, but it actually got me multiple steroid accusations; for every week I’ve trained people around me would’ve only achieved in about 4 weeks.

So lets get into it

Cycle and a lot of info by @Jonasㅤㅤ

Why LGD-4033?​

​

​

Highly anabolic SARM with human studies and well-documented strength and size gains​

Good oral bioavailability (no injections - the reason I went with this cycle)​

Milder on lipids & liver than most orals​

Goal of the cycle: at least 77kg to get to a normal BMI (always been underweight my whole life)​

​

Cycle Outline​

​

Compounds: LGD-4033 (Ligandrol) and Enclomiphene​

Dose: 10 mg of LGD and 12.5 mg of Enclo ED​

Length: 8 weeks (boosted myself up 2 weeks prior with Enclo (25 mg) EOD)​

Administration: in the morning, mostly on an empty stomach (obviously not optimal)​

​

Training & Diet​

​

Program: Upper/Lower, 5× a week​

Full Split:​

​

Spoiler

UPPER:​

Incline chest press × 1​

Lateral raises × 1​

Chest Fly × 1​

Lat pulldown × 1​

Machine shoulder press × 1​

Preacher curl × 1​

Long-head-bias tricep extension × 1​

Upper-back row × 1​

Tricep push-down × 1​

Sagittal-plane row × 1​

Rear-delt fly × 1​

​

LOWER:​

Leg extension × 1​

Leg press × 2​

Ham curl × 1​

Hip adduction × 1​

Hip hinge × 1​

Calf raise × 1​

Ab crunch × 1​

Reverse curl × 1​

Wrist curl × 1​

​

​

Calories: Started with about 400+ maintenance calories but dropped it out of laziness​

Sleep target: 8 h nightly​

​

On Cycle​

​

About 2 days after my first pill of LGD I had an extremely bad salivary-gland inflammation; I ate not a single thing for about 5 days and then only slowly got back on track after that. It was a blessing in disguise, which was also why I dropped the bulk, the fasting melted a lot of fat off my body so that was literally God making me shredded. I’d say I probably dropped 2.5+% bodyfat from that.​

​

My skin got really messed on cycle tho; my forehead got extremely dry and was full of acne which I’ve never had before. My traps also got a lot of acne which is why people accused me of blasting actual roids because it literally looks like roid skin sadly.​

​

The biggest side effect I got was the ungodly amount of hair I’ve gotten all across my body. I never heard anybody mention that they got excessive body hair from SARMs but I got absolutely wrecked with that. I’d say my leg hairs probably tripled in density and my forearm has at least double the hair now. I hope that stuff is not permanent.​

​

I got pretty substantial Erectile Dysfunction but I also gooned every single day on cycle so that could also have been the cause.​

​

I also grew to 187 cm which is pretty nice, so +1 cm.​

​

Results​

​

Weight: 79kg (+11kg)​

Height: 187cm (+1cm)​

Bicep Circumfrence: Left: 36.5cm (+2cm) Right: 36cm (+1.5cm) (my arms are my weak point)​

Ass circumfrence: Skeleton ass to Big Fat and Juicy PAWG ass​

​

PICTURES HERE:​

​

Spoiler

This was me 8 days before LGD so i took enclo only twice​

View attachment 3916895​

​

This was me today, 1 day after the 60 day cycle. Obviously im flexing here so its not a fully fair comparison but my shoulders deffinetly made the most gains even though theyre still a weakpoint. LGD also made my trap bigger on the side i wear my gym bag thats how fucking potent it is.​

View attachment 3916901​

This is from the same date as the first pic​

View attachment 3916905​

​

This aswell​

View attachment 3916906​

​

This was made mid-end of cycle, i dont have a lot of back pics sadly so this will have to do.​

View attachment 3916908​

Same date as abouve​

View attachment 3916909​

​

The following pics are all from today​

View attachment 3916913​

​

Natty lighting no flexing:​

View attachment 3916917​

Me as im Writing the thread:​

View attachment 3916921​

View attachment 3916923​

​

​

​

My advice to you​

I didnt know that Enclomiphene can cause growth plates to close prematurely and that it is apparently extremly bad in every aspect, before the cycle (or even during it) so i dont know if this exact cycle could be recommended. But what i can recommend is LGD, I didnt really talk about the strenght gains but the strenght you experience in the first 3 weeks is INSANE. I was litterally doing 5kg+ on everything from workout to workout (doing 5 a week btw). This didnt last very long sadly.
If you wanna actually do a first cycle id just opt with testosterone and maybe anavar. If youre scared of needles practice injecting peptides and then just dont be a pussy when you have to do an actual intra muscular injection for test.

To any actual roiders: I'll deffinetly drop the Enclo next time, will still use it for the PCT tho.


Ask me anything, ill always reply

@Hernan @chadbeingmade @halloweed @jeff1234 @Jonasㅤㅤ

---

TL;DR
16yo, grew 1cm, gained about 10kg of LBM while losing bodyfat. Big strenght increases. Got hairy and gooned everyday. Got accused of steroids a lot. No big side effects except skin is worse. great experience

jfl at bmi exists for fat niggers to feel better about themselves, u looked good before u just took it to the next level good job. i want to get to your starting point first

 

[Linus1888]

jfl at bmi exists for fat niggers to feel better about themselves, u looked good before u just took it to the next level good job. i want to get to your starting point first

hop on test and lgd +dut and cruise on that for a while. you wont regret it

 

[FiendFiend]

hop on test and lgd +dut and cruise on that for a while. you wont regret it

will it also help me if im boneless, i just turned 18, growth plates still open and have like dog shit bone density, im 128lbs 16% bf, get mistaken for being younger than i am.

How would it impact my collagen, isnt test + lgd overkill?

 

[Linus1888]

will it also help me if im boneless, i just turned 18, growth plates still open and have like dog shit bone density, im 128lbs 16% bf, get mistaken for being younger than i am.

How would it impact my collagen, isnt test + lgd overkill?

test wont do anything for bones.

Dutasteride will save you from skin issues and also use test p to have more stable hormones and thus less issues while on it.
test + lgd is not overkill at all. lgd gives you a very full watery look and a lot of strenght, it awesome sauce.

physique halo is god tier when youre young, im "already" 17 now and im scared of time slipping away. wageslave a bit and hop on asap.

Aromasin to not fuck up your growth plates, that comes with other sides though. Depends on how tall you are, im personally going to risk it at 187cm cause i havent grown in a bit and that extra .5cm wont do it anyways

 

[chulutho]

ligandrol supresses testosterone production; enclomiphene increases testosterone. The trick is to take enough enclomiphene or injectable testosterone that you are above or at your natural teststerone levels.

With enclomiphene you wanna be at or slightly above your natural levels and with injectable test you obviously wanna run way more.

so lgd crashes and enclo boost it back up so you dont feel like shit, you could also not use enclo but then you would have no motivation to train or do anything at all.


you will always have side effects with these things.
I would take Test P instead of Test E, The ester in test p is shorter so you have to inject more often (every days). With test E you would only have to inject every week.

Because you inject more often you will have your hormones at a more stable level and you wont experience probably any acne while on it.


anavar wont fuck you up rly but its harsh on the lipids, you could take a small dosage but i would rather stick with lgd4033. its safer overall

Will you be doing/have you done a thread concerning the more exact/accurate amount of injectable test one should be taking while on this cycle?

 

[Linus1888]

Will you be doing/have you done a thread concerning the more exact/accurate amount of injectable test one should be taking while on this cycle?

500mg a week of test. Probably less than that

 

[subhumanhorde]

Great thread, might hop on. Do you still have erectile dysfunction though, I dont really care for the other side effects except for that.

 

[Linus1888]

Great thread, might hop on. Do you still have erectile dysfunction though, I dont really care for the other side effects except for that.

I believe I might suffer from Hypogonadism, I will need bloodwork to check this

 

[gigacumster3000]

okay, newfag. looks like you're trying to jump on the sarms bandwagon now that they've become basic and standard for your generation of normies. typical roastie-wannabe shit post from a low effort cunt. let me break it down for you since apparently 2023 has made it necessary:

 

[Linus1888]

okay, newfag. looks like you're trying to jump on the sarms bandwagon now that they've become basic and standard for your generation of normies. typical roastie-wannabe shit post from a low effort cunt. let me break it down for you since apparently 2023 has made it necessary:

nigga who tf are you
aint no way this is serious, im laughing my ass off

 

[karmacita901]

aight its been 3 months how much cycle gains did you lose

 

[Linus1888]

aight its been 3 months how much cycle gains did you lose

A lot as I’ve been hella inconsistent but still maintaining way more than before the cycle. That’s my bad though, I just had no motivation after because of crashed hormones