11kg in 8 weeks - LGD4033 Beginner cycle BEFORE AND AFTER PICS

[dawooddX]

pmo source PLEASE

msg me

 

[Dave1]

I also grew to 187 cm which is pretty nice, so +1 cm.

had u grown significantly before using lgd?

 

[Linus1888]

had u grown significantly before using lgd?

Not at all, about 9 months of not a single extra mm of height. I thought this was my final height and my growth plates finally fused.

I’ve never heard anything like that anecdotally that LGD can cause Height growth but Ligandrol also has Bone strengthening properties; possibly a correlation

 

[Dave1]

I’ve never heard anything like that anecdotally that LGD can cause Height growth but Ligandrol also has Bone strengthening properties; possibly a correlation

holy shit lgd potentially new heightmaxxing roid!? also crazy since enclo is supposed to close plates

 

[Linus1888]

holy shit lgd potentially new heightmaxxing roid!?

Im the only one ever to have reported a height increase with lgd sadly.
Highkey something to look into and make theories about though this was definitely not a coincidence in my opinion

 

[Dave1]

Im the only one ever to have reported a height increase with lgd sadly.
Highkey something to look into and make theories about though this was definitely not a coincidence in my opinion

if i do run another cycle it might just have to be enclo and lgd, apart from the potential height it's a decently designed cycle

 

[arabcell]

if i did 10mg ED for 6 weeks, without using any pct, do you think I will be fine ?
planning to use viagra to combat erectile dysfunction if i have it.

just too broke to afford enclo. so im debating to get either on lgd4033 for 6 weeks or anavar 6 weeks instead.

lmk bro, but love the thread

 

[Linus1888]

if i did 10mg ED for 6 weeks, without using any pct, do you think I will be fine ?
planning to use viagra to combat erectile dysfunction if i have it.

just too broke to afford enclo. so im debating to get either on lgd4033 for 6 weeks or anavar 6 weeks instead.

lmk bro, but love the thread

I’d do 8 weeks, so 2 full months of 10mg ED. Most vendors sell 60 capsules @ 10mg anyway.
Cialis mogs Viagra, imo. If you’re really fucking a lot during the cycle, then it would be pretty important to keep on hand. At least it would’ve been for me because I had only like 50% blood flow coming to it.

Enclo is not that expensive. Test is cheaper than Enclo, though (like 10-30€ depends on the source).

Anavar is much more suppressive than LGD. I wouldn’t worry so much about the health-side aspects of suppression, but if you are suppressed, you will have less motivation, thus leading to your cycle yielding less gains.

Anavar only with a test base. It depends on the dosage, of course, but if you want to get all the benefits, you will need a test base.

Hope I answered everything.

 

[arabcell]

I’d do 8 weeks, so 2 full months of 10mg ED. Most vendors sell 60 capsules @ 10mg anyway.
Cialis mogs Viagra, imo. If you’re really fucking a lot during the cycle, then it would be pretty important to keep on hand. At least it would’ve been for me because I had only like 50% blood flow coming to it.

Enclo is not that expensive. Test is cheaper than Enclo, though (like 10-30€ depends on the source).

Anavar is much more suppressive than LGD. I wouldn’t worry so much about the health-side aspects of suppression, but if you are suppressed, you will have less motivation, thus leading to your cycle yielding less gains.

Anavar only with a test base. It depends on the dosage, of course, but if you want to get all the benefits, you will need a test base.

Hope I answered everything.

in australia, fuckin everything here is expensive as shit. enclo 30ml (25mg per mL) is $180. LGD4033 is $130 for 30ml (10mg per mL). And id prefer not to order from overseas bcs of how much shit gets seized.

Thats how stupid it is. even test itself is expensive.

Im thinking 6 weeks where 3 weeks im on 10mg ED (middle of my 6 week cycle), first week and 2nd last week on 5mg ED, then the week after that 2mg ED. But im not fully sure if im gonna go on 10mg ED, will see how i go on 5mg first.

also my dumbass thought viagra was much cheaper than it was, turns out all cheap reputable sources here are gone for a while and its expensive as fuck, thinking maybe honey packs...?

but yeah man this is probably my cycle with no PCT or Test. long ass party coming up so I just wanna look my best there, dont really care what happens after in terms of keeping gains.

 

[Linus1888]

in australia, fuckin everything here is expensive as shit. enclo 30ml (25mg per mL) is $180. LGD4033 is $130 for 30ml (10mg per mL). And id prefer not to order from overseas bcs of how much shit gets seized.

Thats how stupid it is. even test itself is expensive.

Im thinking 6 weeks where 3 weeks im on 10mg ED (middle of my 6 week cycle), first week and 2nd last week on 5mg ED, then the week after that 2mg ED. But im not fully sure if im gonna go on 10mg ED, will see how i go on 5mg first.

also my dumbass thought viagra was much cheaper than it was, turns out all cheap reputable sources here are gone for a while and its expensive as fuck, thinking maybe honey packs...?

but yeah man this is probably my cycle with no PCT or Test. long ass party coming up so I just wanna look my best there, dont really care what happens after in terms of keeping gains.

Enclo as expensive as GH is insane work.
6 weeks dosent need a PCT if you’re also going To do 2mg at some point in the cycle.

I’d try 5mg the entire cycle to save money, heard that 10mg isn’t much superior to 5mg so go for it mate

 

[powerliftercoco]

@Bitchwhipper2 did you see this?

 

[hayden_sub5]

THE LGD-4033 CYCLE LOG


From skinny Framelet to being accused of Roiding within 8 weeks
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Quick Intro to this: I was 16, 186cm and about 68-69kg. I was deep into training but that was already a year ago so I decided to hop on a cycle to get my old gains back quicker, but it actually got me multiple steroid accusations; for every week I’ve trained people around me would’ve only achieved in about 4 weeks.

So lets get into it

Cycle and a lot of info by @Jonasㅤㅤ

Why LGD-4033?​

​

​

Highly anabolic SARM with human studies and well-documented strength and size gains​

Good oral bioavailability (no injections - the reason I went with this cycle)​

Milder on lipids & liver than most orals​

Goal of the cycle: at least 77kg to get to a normal BMI (always been underweight my whole life)​

​

Cycle Outline​

​

Compounds: LGD-4033 (Ligandrol) and Enclomiphene​

Dose: 10 mg of LGD and 12.5 mg of Enclo ED​

Length: 8 weeks (boosted myself up 2 weeks prior with Enclo (25 mg) EOD)​

Administration: in the morning, mostly on an empty stomach (obviously not optimal)​

​

Training & Diet​

​

Program: Upper/Lower, 5× a week​

Full Split:​

​

Spoiler

UPPER:​

Incline chest press × 1​

Lateral raises × 1​

Chest Fly × 1​

Lat pulldown × 1​

Machine shoulder press × 1​

Preacher curl × 1​

Long-head-bias tricep extension × 1​

Upper-back row × 1​

Tricep push-down × 1​

Sagittal-plane row × 1​

Rear-delt fly × 1​

​

LOWER:​

Leg extension × 1​

Leg press × 2​

Ham curl × 1​

Hip adduction × 1​

Hip hinge × 1​

Calf raise × 1​

Ab crunch × 1​

Reverse curl × 1​

Wrist curl × 1​

​

​

Calories: Started with about 400+ maintenance calories but dropped it out of laziness​

Sleep target: 8 h nightly​

​

On Cycle​

​

About 2 days after my first pill of LGD I had an extremely bad salivary-gland inflammation; I ate not a single thing for about 5 days and then only slowly got back on track after that. It was a blessing in disguise, which was also why I dropped the bulk, the fasting melted a lot of fat off my body so that was literally God making me shredded. I’d say I probably dropped 2.5+% bodyfat from that.​

​

My skin got really messed on cycle tho; my forehead got extremely dry and was full of acne which I’ve never had before. My traps also got a lot of acne which is why people accused me of blasting actual roids because it literally looks like roid skin sadly.​

​

The biggest side effect I got was the ungodly amount of hair I’ve gotten all across my body. I never heard anybody mention that they got excessive body hair from SARMs but I got absolutely wrecked with that. I’d say my leg hairs probably tripled in density and my forearm has at least double the hair now. I hope that stuff is not permanent.​

​

I got pretty substantial Erectile Dysfunction but I also gooned every single day on cycle so that could also have been the cause.​

​

I also grew to 187 cm which is pretty nice, so +1 cm.​

​

Results​

​

Weight: 79kg (+11kg)​

Height: 187cm (+1cm)​

Bicep Circumfrence: Left: 36.5cm (+2cm) Right: 36cm (+1.5cm) (my arms are my weak point)​

Ass circumfrence: Skeleton ass to Big Fat and Juicy PAWG ass​

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PICTURES HERE:​

​

Spoiler

This was me 8 days before LGD so i took enclo only twice​

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This was me today, 1 day after the 60 day cycle. Obviously im flexing here so its not a fully fair comparison but my shoulders deffinetly made the most gains even though theyre still a weakpoint. LGD also made my trap bigger on the side i wear my gym bag thats how fucking potent it is.​

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This is from the same date as the first pic​

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This aswell​

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This was made mid-end of cycle, i dont have a lot of back pics sadly so this will have to do.​

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Same date as abouve​

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The following pics are all from today​

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Natty lighting no flexing:​

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Me as im Writing the thread:​

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My advice to you​

I didnt know that Enclomiphene can cause growth plates to close prematurely and that it is apparently extremly bad in every aspect, before the cycle (or even during it) so i dont know if this exact cycle could be recommended. But what i can recommend is LGD, I didnt really talk about the strenght gains but the strenght you experience in the first 3 weeks is INSANE. I was litterally doing 5kg+ on everything from workout to workout (doing 5 a week btw). This didnt last very long sadly.
If you wanna actually do a first cycle id just opt with testosterone and maybe anavar. If youre scared of needles practice injecting peptides and then just dont be a pussy when you have to do an actual intra muscular injection for test.

To any actual roiders: I'll deffinetly drop the Enclo next time, will still use it for the PCT tho.


Ask me anything, ill always reply

@Hernan @chadbeingmade @halloweed @jeff1234 @Jonasㅤㅤ

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TL;DR
16yo, grew 1cm, gained about 10kg of LBM while losing bodyfat. Big strenght increases. Got hairy and gooned everyday. Got accused of steroids a lot. No big side effects except skin is worse. great experience

Mogger thread, good stuff pneumo jr

 

[slaters]

Mogger thread, good stuff pneumo jr

Ru in the army

 

[hayden_sub5]

Ru in the army

Wym?

 

[Linus1888]

Mogger thread, good stuff pneumo jr

Niggas will soon say „good stuff Linus1888 jr“ instead

 

[face&height]

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Me after pinning lgbt4033

I heard injectable LGD is more androgenic.

 

[Linus1888]

I heard injectable LGD is more androgenic.

Mogs in bioavailability

 

[arabcell]

hey bro when u say u didnt eat anything for 5 days, i assume that obviosuly you ate some things but not a lot.

could u tell me what ur diet was like then?

 

[Linus1888]

hey bro when u say u didnt eat anything for 5 days, i assume that obviosuly you ate some things but not a lot.

could u tell me what ur diet was like then?

That wasn’t hyperbolic, I actually did not eat a single thing on those days. I did not have the desire to eat and felt like a Jew in a concentration camp. I was horribly sick there.

Besides that I Tracked my calories for a bit and then it pissed me off to much and just ate more than usual without tracking

 

[medialcanthus]

I had 0 bloat during the cycle. Right now im the exact same weight I was when i stopped the cycle, so im off of everything atm. I still have the acne i got during the cycle though which is why i bought accutane.
The cycle was cheap asf and I would deffinetly recommend

how much?? im like 55kg and 16 bro this might be a need

 

[Linus1888]

how much?? im like 55kg and 16 bro this might be a need

Lgd4033 - 10mg @ 60 capsules - 60€
Enclomiphene - 25mg @ 50 capsules - 61€ ( you’ll have like 20-30% left at the end of the cycle)

Shipping: 28€ for me
With shipping protection: 152.63€

Test would be cheaper but 150 is still insanely worth it for those results

 

[medialcanthus]

Lgd4033 - 10mg @ 60 capsules - 60€
Enclomiphene - 25mg @ 50 capsules - 61€ ( you’ll have like 20-30% left at the end of the cycle)

Shipping: 28€ for me
With shipping protection: 152.63€

Test would be cheaper but 150 is still insanely worth it for those results

the only thing im worried about is the salivary gland inflammation, how did you not eat for 5 days? And is it a guaranteed side effect? I'm just thinking of the severity of all the side effects

 

[Linus1888]

the only thing im worried about is the salivary gland inflammation, how did you not eat for 5 days? And is it a guaranteed side effect? I'm just thinking of the severity of all the side effects

You can hit me up in dms if you want.

I’m gonna explain it here maybe I’ll yap too much.

The salivary gland infection due to 90% certainty did not have anything to do with the LGD or the enclo. However, I find it a bit suspicious that immediately after starting that or like a week after I experience such a problem for some reason this happens to me pretty often after I take some thing new for example even with BPC157 which is supposed to have barely any side effects. Usually, the only side effect of you will experience is erectile dysfunction, which should disappear afterwards it did for me naturally I did not really experience ED but just less blood flow down there. Acne aswell which will also disappear afterward, like 90% of it

 

[aboriginalmaxxing]

Anabolic cum lmao
Btw not injecting anything with fluorine because your body can't excrete it so it attaches to calcium ions

 

[clearpillcel]

THE LGD-4033 CYCLE LOG


From skinny Framelet to being accused of Roiding within 8 weeks
​

---

Quick Intro to this: I was 16, 186cm and about 68-69kg. I was deep into training but that was already a year ago so I decided to hop on a cycle to get my old gains back quicker, but it actually got me multiple steroid accusations; for every week I’ve trained people around me would’ve only achieved in about 4 weeks.

So lets get into it

Cycle and a lot of info by @Jonasㅤㅤ

Why LGD-4033?​

​

​

Highly anabolic SARM with human studies and well-documented strength and size gains​

Good oral bioavailability (no injections - the reason I went with this cycle)​

Milder on lipids & liver than most orals​

Goal of the cycle: at least 77kg to get to a normal BMI (always been underweight my whole life)​

​

Cycle Outline​

​

Compounds: LGD-4033 (Ligandrol) and Enclomiphene​

Dose: 10 mg of LGD and 12.5 mg of Enclo ED​

Length: 8 weeks (boosted myself up 2 weeks prior with Enclo (25 mg) EOD)​

Administration: in the morning, mostly on an empty stomach (obviously not optimal)​

​

Training & Diet​

​

Program: Upper/Lower, 5× a week​

Full Split:​

​

Spoiler

UPPER:​

Incline chest press × 1​

Lateral raises × 1​

Chest Fly × 1​

Lat pulldown × 1​

Machine shoulder press × 1​

Preacher curl × 1​

Long-head-bias tricep extension × 1​

Upper-back row × 1​

Tricep push-down × 1​

Sagittal-plane row × 1​

Rear-delt fly × 1​

​

LOWER:​

Leg extension × 1​

Leg press × 2​

Ham curl × 1​

Hip adduction × 1​

Hip hinge × 1​

Calf raise × 1​

Ab crunch × 1​

Reverse curl × 1​

Wrist curl × 1​

​

​

Calories: Started with about 400+ maintenance calories but dropped it out of laziness​

Sleep target: 8 h nightly​

​

On Cycle​

​

About 2 days after my first pill of LGD I had an extremely bad salivary-gland inflammation; I ate not a single thing for about 5 days and then only slowly got back on track after that. It was a blessing in disguise, which was also why I dropped the bulk, the fasting melted a lot of fat off my body so that was literally God making me shredded. I’d say I probably dropped 2.5+% bodyfat from that.​

​

My skin got really messed on cycle tho; my forehead got extremely dry and was full of acne which I’ve never had before. My traps also got a lot of acne which is why people accused me of blasting actual roids because it literally looks like roid skin sadly.​

​

The biggest side effect I got was the ungodly amount of hair I’ve gotten all across my body. I never heard anybody mention that they got excessive body hair from SARMs but I got absolutely wrecked with that. I’d say my leg hairs probably tripled in density and my forearm has at least double the hair now. I hope that stuff is not permanent.​

​

I got pretty substantial Erectile Dysfunction but I also gooned every single day on cycle so that could also have been the cause.​

​

I also grew to 187 cm which is pretty nice, so +1 cm.​

​

Results​

​

Weight: 79kg (+11kg)​

Height: 187cm (+1cm)​

Bicep Circumfrence: Left: 36.5cm (+2cm) Right: 36cm (+1.5cm) (my arms are my weak point)​

Ass circumfrence: Skeleton ass to Big Fat and Juicy PAWG ass​

​

PICTURES HERE:​

​

Spoiler

This was me 8 days before LGD so i took enclo only twice​

View attachment 3916895​

​

This was me today, 1 day after the 60 day cycle. Obviously im flexing here so its not a fully fair comparison but my shoulders deffinetly made the most gains even though theyre still a weakpoint. LGD also made my trap bigger on the side i wear my gym bag thats how fucking potent it is.​

View attachment 3916901​

This is from the same date as the first pic​

View attachment 3916905​

​

This aswell​

View attachment 3916906​

​

This was made mid-end of cycle, i dont have a lot of back pics sadly so this will have to do.​

View attachment 3916908​

Same date as abouve​

View attachment 3916909​

​

The following pics are all from today​

View attachment 3916913​

​

Natty lighting no flexing:​

View attachment 3916917​

Me as im Writing the thread:​

View attachment 3916921​

View attachment 3916923​

​

​

​

My advice to you​

I didnt know that Enclomiphene can cause growth plates to close prematurely and that it is apparently extremly bad in every aspect, before the cycle (or even during it) so i dont know if this exact cycle could be recommended. But what i can recommend is LGD, I didnt really talk about the strenght gains but the strenght you experience in the first 3 weeks is INSANE. I was litterally doing 5kg+ on everything from workout to workout (doing 5 a week btw). This didnt last very long sadly.
If you wanna actually do a first cycle id just opt with testosterone and maybe anavar. If youre scared of needles practice injecting peptides and then just dont be a pussy when you have to do an actual intra muscular injection for test.

To any actual roiders: I'll deffinetly drop the Enclo next time, will still use it for the PCT tho.


Ask me anything, ill always reply

@Hernan @chadbeingmade @halloweed @jeff1234 @Jonasㅤㅤ

---

TL;DR
16yo, grew 1cm, gained about 10kg of LBM while losing bodyfat. Big strenght increases. Got hairy and gooned everyday. Got accused of steroids a lot. No big side effects except skin is worse. great experience

will it fuck me up? like baldness lowered than baseline gh, test?

 

[Linus1888]

will it fuck me up? like baldness lowered than baseline gh, test?

In some people it will cause slight hairloss, only while on it though. Did not for me.

Growth hormone is unaffected

Testosterone Will be suppressed which is why I took the Enclomiphene to bring it back to slightly higher.

Overall pretty safe

 

[looksmaxxer29]

Lgd source?

 

[Linus1888]

Lgd source?

Deuschem

 

[segmt]

good thread.

I need height though, I don't know about building muscle at a manlet height at 5'9.
If it can help with height (I don't think it can), it would be good

Yes I know the information about enclo closing plates I never saw concrete evidence of it, it's just a theory, and information is so scattered here you can't fucking find it

Getting BPC157 and wondering because of the shipping fee it's worth to get more at a time, and I'm just researching what more to get

 

[segmt]

good thread.

I need height though, I don't know about building muscle at a manlet height at 5'9.
If it can help with height (I don't think it can), it would be good

Yes I know the information about enclo closing plates I never saw concrete evidence of it, it's just a theory, and information is so scattered here you can't fucking find it

Getting BPC157 and wondering because of the shipping fee it's worth to get more at a time, and I'm just researching what more to get

besides aromatization causing plate closure

 

[Linus1888]

good thread.

I need height though, I don't know about building muscle at a manlet height at 5'9.
If it can help with height (I don't think it can), it would be good

Yes I know the information about enclo closing plates I never saw concrete evidence of it, it's just a theory, and information is so scattered here you can't fucking find it

Getting BPC157 and wondering because of the shipping fee it's worth to get more at a time, and I'm just researching what more to get

I’ll give an in-depth reply when at home.
@Gaygymmaxx is a short gym goer on test. You can ask him.

I’m on bpc157 rn, shipping was insanely expensive and it’s incredibly overrated

 

[segmt]

I’ll give an in-depth reply when at home.
@Gaygymmaxx is a short gym goer on test. You can ask him.

I’m on bpc157 rn, shipping was insanely expensive and it’s incredibly overrated

overrated in terms of what? Of course I don't expect it to be, lets say, roids tier in the benefits that it gives
anything mental? are you injecting subq

Not sure if I should get it tbh

 

[Linus1888]

overrated in terms of what? Of course I don't expect it to be, lets say, roids tier in the benefits that it gives
anything mental? are you injecting subq

Not sure if I should get it tbh

Alright I got a bit of time rn.

My mom bought some bpc and I’m using it aswell as her right now. I’ve expected some faster regeneration from work and the gym mainly.
I have some scratches from yesterday and they definitely healed quicker than they usually do and my knees are maybe a smidge better aswell.

It’s to expensive to be worth it. I thought my acne would fade with that but it didn’t at all, was a theory of mine.



About the Enclomiphene and growth plate closure:

Table - PMC

The testosterone to estradiol ratio (T/E2 ratio) reportedly exerts a stronger effect on semen quality and sexual desire than does testosterone alone. Clomiphene citrate is a selective estrogen receptor modulator that has long been used as an ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This is a study about clomiphene so it’s applicable to enclo but not to the full extend.
E2 rose by 80.8% on average, to my understanding at this would be lower on Enclomiphene but I don’t know to what extent. It’s not really a theory at all it’s proven but I did not know this during the cycle.

Lgd improved Bone structural properties in mice.
You could come to the conclusion that it would help in height growth but that’s not really how that works or was proven in the study.

I actually grew 1cm on the cycle and I’m sure it had something to do with the Ligandrol tough. I have not found another post on the internet claiming height growth, maybe the users were to old, maybe they were afraid to post something. I don’t know, maybe LGD will become part of people’s height maxxing stacks but we need more people to report on this specifically. As I mentioned in the only one to my understanding.

 

[segmt]

Alright I got a bit of time rn.

My mom bought some bpc and I’m using it aswell as her right now. I’ve expected some faster regeneration from work and the gym mainly.
I have some scratches from yesterday and they definitely healed quicker than they usually do and my knees are maybe a smidge better aswell.

It’s to expensive to be worth it. I thought my acne would fade with that but it didn’t at all, was a theory of mine.



About the Enclomiphene and growth plate closure:

Table - PMC

The testosterone to estradiol ratio (T/E2 ratio) reportedly exerts a stronger effect on semen quality and sexual desire than does testosterone alone. Clomiphene citrate is a selective estrogen receptor modulator that has long been used as an ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This is a study about clomiphene so it’s applicable to enclo but not to the full extend.
E2 rose by 80.8% on average, to my understanding at this would be lower on Enclomiphene but I don’t know to what extent. It’s not really a theory at all it’s proven but I did not know this during the cycle.

Lgd improved Bone structural properties in mice.
You could come to the conclusion that it would help in height growth but that’s not really how that works or was proven in the study.

I actually grew 1cm on the cycle and I’m sure it had something to do with the Ligandrol tough. I have not found another post on the internet claiming height growth, maybe the users were to old, maybe they were afraid to post something. I don’t know, maybe LGD will become part of people’s height maxxing stacks but we need more people to report on this specifically. As I mentioned in the only one to my understanding.

Do you take bpc subq? Or oral?
It's not that expensive tbh. Domestically it is though

Yeah, maybe not, I don't think sarms would be good then. I don't see the benefits in risking my HPTA Axis and I certainly won't be able to pin lifetime, being realistic

 

[Linus1888]

Do you take bpc subq? Or oral?
It's not that expensive tbh. Domestically it is though

Yeah, maybe not, I don't think sarms would be good then. I don't see the benefits in risking my HPTA Axis and I certainly won't be able to pin lifetime, being realistic

I pin 250mcg ED at the top evening SubQ.

LGD is a cool compound which dosent fuck up your lipids that much. The Enclomiphene is riskier/has more side effects imo

 

[ru58841]

OP try injectable lgd next time, i heard its OP asf (ryan russo made a lot of vids about this on youtube)

also can u post update pics of your current physique (did u maintain the gains)

and did u take anything after?