12 hours post-op fat graft + canthopexy (no pics)

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ofc not but Im not too sure on the long term results of fat grafting done the way Rattinan does. The "overfilling" isn't new but I'm pretty certain nobody else does it to the extent they do it. Like I said people with recessed infra orbitals are better off w infras w/ a small saddle and/or spacer grafts which will also help ppl w/ scleral show. Fat grating is fine to enhance a medium/good under eye area, but most people are going in expecting a drastic result which is 1. impossible 2. prolly more risky to go for a big overfill compared to well done implants. I don't see why it's a joke, if you have a negative vector and scleral show infra implants can ascend your eye area so much. I think we both agree fat grafting is a procedure that gets thrown around in everyones "surgery plan" but it's truly not for everyone.

Overfilling would ONLY be an issue if all of the fat survives, which will never happen. Filling to 100% means that’s exactly the ideal amount that the patient needs, then 40%+ of the fat dies off and your left with less than you actually needed. if you fill to 120-140% you will still be left with less than you actually needed after it dies and this is why most people require multiple sessions for th best results even with overfilling. Of course fat isn’t a replacement for recessed infras and that’s where many people make the mistake by seeing them as alternatives to each other when they address different problems and can not be substituted. Sure, implants MIGHT ascend someone assuming that they actually needed them (I don’t think most people do) but most of the results I’ve seen don’t look that good plus the long term implications make them a joke and isn’t worth it at all imo. Finally, yes I do agree that it’s overrated and most people are adding it to their plan with expectations set way too high because of the top 1% of results posted on here. I personally got it mainly to fix tear trough, my ethnicity are known for having lack of fat in the specific area so I think it could help if you are a valid candidate that actually lack fat and not bone, though I will certainly need another session if I want to see any major improvement.

 

[snowslayer]

Like I said its a case by case basis. I think it's not needed as much as advertised. Overfilling is still an issue where you're going past a point thats researched doesn't matter how much survives. If you lack fat not bone you are a valid candidate, I'm more worried about the long term affects and the toughness of removing it if you don't achieve the aesthetic result you're looking for or even for functional reasons

Overfilling would ONLY be an issue if all of the fat survives, which will never happen. Filling to 100% means that’s exactly the ideal amount that the patient needs, then 40%+ of the fat dies off and your left with less than you actually needed. if you fill to 120-140% you will still be left with less than you actually needed after it dies and this is why most people require multiple sessions for th best results even with overfilling. Of course fat isn’t a replacement for recessed infras and that’s where many people make the mistake by seeing them as alternatives to each other when they address different problems and can not be substituted. Sure, implants MIGHT ascend someone assuming that they actually needed them (I don’t think most people do) but most of the results I’ve seen don’t look that good plus the long term implications make them a joke and isn’t worth it at all imo. Finally, yes I do agree that it’s overrated and most people are adding it to their plan with expectations set way too high because of the top 1% of results posted on here. I personally got it mainly to fix tear trough, my ethnicity are known for having lack of fat in the specific area so I think it could help if you are a valid candidate that actually lack fat and not bone, though I will certainly need another session if I want to see any major improvement.

 

[iphone]

BRO did you go to the rat?

 

[SteveRogers]

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@SteveRogers fat grafting is so overrated 1. it didn't even help you that much as you have stated

Agreed

Rattinan overfills like crazy

They under filled the fuck out of me jfl

Fat grafting the upper eyelids doesn't give good results unless you have the perfect combo of lack of fat in upper eyelids and low set eyebrows/projected supras.

well I had both of those yet I had very very subpar results - as I’ve said, you need to mechanically lower your upper eyelid crease and release your orbital retaining ligament to allow for the fat to actually descend, otherwise it will just be pulled up (like mine was)

The rest is rambling so molecule. I’ve been totally open and honest with everything.
Under eye grafting should only be for people like myself with well frontally projected zygos to have fat placed above the infras, so that gravity doesn’t pull them down, it’s simple.

Do u think it was invented this year? U realize people have gotten this surgery for decades.. I do agree it’s overrated for supras you need an amazing base plus hunter eyes are a meme on most phenos but to say most people need implants is retarded; implants, especially infraorbital, are the biggest joke with 100x the long term implications compared to fat grafting and most people don’t even need them in the first place.

Pretty much agreed on all points but I do think hunter eyes are the most giga optimal ideal feature no matter the phenotype.

I think we both agree fat grafting is a procedure that gets thrown around in everyones "surgery plan" but it's truly not for everyone.

Yes, however I think canthopexy + fat grafting is just a very very solid cost effective extremely safe and high ROI procedure pairing.

 

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@SteveRogers fat grafting is so overrated 1. it didn't even help you that much as you have stated 2. you guys are guinea pigging yourselves as Rattinan overfills like crazy unlike anyone in the world really which = you don't know what the true long term results are. Look at @WrathOfOlives it seems like he's getting the coding jesus discoloration. Fat grafting the upper eyelids doesn't give good results unless you have the perfect combo of lack of fat in upper eyelids and low set eyebrows/projected supras. And the under eyes is only to enhance a good under eye area most people with recessed infras need implants, everyone who went to rattinan is giga fucked in my opinion. I wonder if everyone gets some of these side effects in the coming months/years the glob of fat in the upper eyelid will droop down and theres going to be a minimal difference in the under eyes with discoloration.

Over for fatgraftcucks like me

 

[snowslayer]

Over for fatgraftcucks like me

na you had the best results cause you had the best base to ascend

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

na you had the best results cause you had the best base to ascend

true but kind of cope, seen shitty bases benefit hard from this surgery

 

[Kyriae]

Just fat my shit up.

 

[aryanwantsadvice]

I’m getting ts in 13 hours bro

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

I’m getting ts in 13 hours bro

pexy too? nigga keep me updated

 

[aryanwantsadvice]

pexy too? nigga keep me updated

haha not pexy jus fat ! it'll help the orbital vector a bit too as it's saddled around temporal region, might diiy pdo threads after 3 months

 

[async]

19 is young for that kinda surgery. hope it was worth the price tag and the 4-5 pain. curious if this even fixes the eye area or if it's just temporary.

why do u keep commenting the most useless retarded opinions under every thread? You know nothing

 

[vermicel]

why do u keep commenting the most useless retarded opinions under every thread? You know nothing

He's obviously botting. Some of his first posts were even published with broken templates/coding tags.

This is not the first time he's shitting up the whole board. Very annoying.

@Hernan can you please ban his brown ass ? You can delete all his posts as well, nothing of value will be lost.

 

[Jgns]

Agreed

They under filled the fuck out of me jfl

well I had both of those yet I had very very subpar results - as I’ve said, you need to mechanically lower your upper eyelid crease and release your orbital retaining ligament to allow for the fat to actually descend, otherwise it will just be pulled up (like mine was)

The rest is rambling so molecule. I’ve been totally open and honest with everything.
Under eye grafting should only be for people like myself with well frontally projected zygos to have fat placed above the infras, so that gravity doesn’t pull them down, it’s simple.

Pretty much agreed on all points but I do think hunter eyes are the most giga optimal ideal feature no matter the phenotype.

Yes, however I think canthopexy + fat grafting is just a very very solid cost effective extremely safe and high ROI procedure pairing.

are infraorbital implants really that cucked? espc if u dont have frontally projected zygos (planning to get inframalar implants in a couple months, with fat grafting in the supras, mine are above average just got hollowing and weird negative hooding i wnna fix)

 

[Public Enemy]

Doing temples was a big mistake, you should have studied aesthetics a little more first.
I guess it’s not a huge deal just massage the area violently over the next few months (without affecting the pexy).
Also if you can get access, BPC is extremely overpowered at retaining fat grafts.

Dm?

 

[Public Enemy]

I’m getting ts in 13 hours bro

How did it go update?

 

[aryanwantsadvice]

How did it go update?

How did it go update?

I made a post about it but nothing too good. A decent amount of benefits in temple region // raised canthal tilt but not enough to fully dhange orbital vector. malar / infra region added a nice boost / glow to my face but i got brootally underfilled. i get refiill in august too