A big reason why many autists are forced to be NEET: Chronic insomnia

[Deleted member 11770]

The incidence of sleep wake disorders, abnormal circadian rythms and poor sleep quality is way higher in autists.

That's partially due to too much serotonin, but also because the hypothalamus, an area in the brain responsible for regular sleep - wake patterns is partially broken.

I've suffered from sleep issues since puberty and never got over it, tried every sleeping pill, all doctors were clueless and nobody could help me.

Society is tailored toward normies so of course every job or university will force you to wake up at 7 am.

If you can't do that, well, fuck you, society hates you and doesn't need you because of your subhuman sleep genetics.

Chronic Night Owl: Over Pretty much.

 

[Deleted member 11414]

most autists can't get jobs because most job interviews are mostly a way too weed out the socially retarded people from the job

 

[Deleted member 11770]

did you know that many autists have genghis khan like features

looking like a fat ricecel?

 

[Deleted member 6403]

that's right

high serotonin is highly correlated with autism and insomnia

 

[Osteogenesis]

Any tips on how to not wake up several times a night? I fall asleep fast again but it still impairs my sleep. I feel like I am not properly sleeping the latter half of the night

 

[thisend]

Check this out:


This podcast has lots of practical tips on many areas of health.

 

[Deleted member 11770]

Check this out:


This podcast has lots of practical tips on many areas of health.

Appreciate that bro but unfortunately you can't always control the room temp when it's summer, we don't have AC units in germany

 

[Deleted member 11770]

Any tips on how to not wake up several times a night? I fall asleep fast again but it still impairs my sleep. I feel like I am not properly sleeping the latter half of the night

I know a guy with the same problem who started taking extended release melatonin, it's a prescription version that releases slowly throughout the night, but you might feel tired the next day if you take too high a dosage or don't drink caffeije the morming after, he said it works when he drinks caffeine then he is still alert the next day

I would go ask a sleep specialist about it

 

[ultra18]

Very true, chronic insomnia fucked up my life and probably stunted my development during puberty

 

[Deleted member 6403]

I know a guy with the same problem who started taking extended release melatonin, it's a prescription version that releases slowly throughout the night, but you might feel tired the next day if you take too high a dosage or don't drink caffeije the morming after, he said it works when he drinks caffeine then he is still alert the next day

I sould go ask a sleep specialist about it

Melatonin is estrogenic and cortisol inducing, bro

 

[Deleted member 11770]

Melatonin is estrogenic and cortisol inducing, bro

U sure? this says otherwise

(PDF) Effect of melatonin on estrogen and progesterone receptors in relation to uterine contraction in rats

PDF | The present study was designed to investigate the possible modulator effect of melatonin on uterine estrogen and progesterone receptors in rats as... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

 

[Deleted member 6403]

U sure? this says otherwise

(PDF) Effect of melatonin on estrogen and progesterone receptors in relation to uterine contraction in rats

PDF | The present study was designed to investigate the possible modulator effect of melatonin on uterine estrogen and progesterone receptors in rats as... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

"Melatonin and prolactin are induced by stress, and darkness is a stress because it impairs mitochondrial energy production."

In our lab at the University of Oregon, our hamsters would try to hibernate, even though they were in temperature-controlled laboratories with regular cycles of artificial light. (The ceiling lights provided only dim illumination inside their cage boxes, so they were probably in a chronic state of light deprivation, which probably increased their sensitivity to the weak environmental cues that Frank Brown had investigated, possibly microwaves that easily penetrated the lab walls.) During the winter, when they were infertile, I found that their thymus glands practically disappeared. The mechanism seemed to include the increase of pineal gland activity (probably increasing melatonin synthesis) in the winter, under the intensified activity of the “sympathetic nervous system” (with increased activity of adrenalin and other catecholamines), and the melatonin was apparently a signal for suppressing fertility during the stressful winter. In some animals (Shvareva and Nevretdinova, 1989), estrogen is increased during hibernation, contributing to the reduction of body temperature."

In 1994 A.V. Sirotkin found that melatonin inhibits progesterone production but stimulates estrogen production, and it’s widely recognized that melatonin generally inhibits the thyroid hormones, creating an environment in which fertilization, implantation, and development of the embryo are not possible. This combination of high estrogen with low progesterone and low thyroid decreases the resistance of the organism, predisposing it to seizures and excitotoxic damage, and causing the thymus gland to atrophy."

Almost any kind of stress increases the formation of melatonin."

Am J Psychiatry 1976 Oct;133(10):1181-6.
Neuroendocrinol Lett 2001 Dec;22(6):432-4.
]Eur J Pharmacol 1990 Jul 3;182(2):313-25
Eksp Klin Farmakol 1999 Mar-Apr; 62(2):58-60
Eur J Endocrinol 1995 Dec;133(6):691-5.
J Pharmacol Exp Ther 1988 Sep;246(3):902-10

 

[Deleted member 11770]

"Melatonin and prolactin are induced by stress, and darkness is a stress because it impairs mitochondrial energy production."

In our lab at the University of Oregon, our hamsters would try to hibernate, even though they were in temperature-controlled laboratories with regular cycles of artificial light. (The ceiling lights provided only dim illumination inside their cage boxes, so they were probably in a chronic state of light deprivation, which probably increased their sensitivity to the weak environmental cues that Frank Brown had investigated, possibly microwaves that easily penetrated the lab walls.) During the winter, when they were infertile, I found that their thymus glands practically disappeared. The mechanism seemed to include the increase of pineal gland activity (probably increasing melatonin synthesis) in the winter, under the intensified activity of the “sympathetic nervous system” (with increased activity of adrenalin and other catecholamines), and the melatonin was apparently a signal for suppressing fertility during the stressful winter. In some animals (Shvareva and Nevretdinova, 1989), estrogen is increased during hibernation, contributing to the reduction of body temperature."

In 1994 A.V. Sirotkin found that melatonin inhibits progesterone production but stimulates estrogen production, and it’s widely recognized that melatonin generally inhibits the thyroid hormones, creating an environment in which fertilization, implantation, and development of the embryo are not possible. This combination of high estrogen with low progesterone and low thyroid decreases the resistance of the organism, predisposing it to seizures and excitotoxic damage, and causing the thymus gland to atrophy."

Almost any kind of stress increases the formation of melatonin."

Am J Psychiatry 1976 Oct;133(10):1181-6.
Neuroendocrinol Lett 2001 Dec;22(6):432-4.
]Eur J Pharmacol 1990 Jul 3;182(2):313-25
Eksp Klin Farmakol 1999 Mar-Apr; 62(2):58-60
Eur J Endocrinol 1995 Dec;133(6):691-5.
J Pharmacol Exp Ther 1988 Sep;246(3):902-10

Why do studies always contradict each other, hard to know what to believe

 

[Deleted member 13994]

pretty much cope. Autists spend too much time on their phone and that is what fucks their sleep rythmm

 

[Deleted member 14138]

The incidence of sleep wake disorders, abnormal circadian rythms and poor sleep quality is way higher in autists.

That's partially due to too much serotonin, but also because the hypothalamus, an area in the brain responsible for regular sleep - wake patterns is partially broken.

I've suffered from sleep issues since puberty and never got over it, tried every sleeping pill, all doctors were clueless and nobody could help me.

Society is tailored toward normies so of course every job or university will force you to wake up at 7 am.

If you can't do that, well, fuck you, society hates you and doesn't need you because of your subhuman sleep genetics.

Chronic Night Owl: Over Pretty much.

I have sleep apnea, AND insomnia. Oh yeah, AND autism.

 

[rockndogs]

@Insomniac

 

[Deleted member 756]

I have sleep apnea, AND insomnia. Oh yeah, AND autism.

You’re good looking

 

[TsarTsar444]

I thought sleep disorder is more related to adhd tho?

 

[Deleted member 14138]

You’re good looking

How? My average rating here is like a 2.

 

[Deleted member 756]

How? My average rating here is like a 2.

I’ve seen your face it’s above average

 

[Deleted member 14138]

I’ve seen your face it’s above average

Ok, but you're one person. Doesn't matter. I have sleep apnea and it sucks giant cock. I wish I could rip my eyeballs out of my sockets most days.

 

[Deleted member 756]

Ok, but you're one person. Doesn't matter. I have sleep apnea and it sucks giant cock. I wish I could rip my eyeballs out of my sockets most days.

Get a CPAP machine

 

[Deleted member 14138]

Get a CPAP machine

I told my doctor to talk to the people that did my sleep test. He won't do shit. Im thinking of breaking into the medical supply store somehow to steal one. Just because Im so psyched off my ass from not sleeping properly for years on end. I feel desperate and willing to do anything.