Adventures in Kojie San DEATHNICS GTFIH

[WanderingBurro]

GATHER AROUND YE BLACKS AND TANS!!!

Just ordered a pack of Kojie San Soap bars (currently on sale so might as well) and because of how prevalent fakes are sold on places such as Amazon I ordered directly from an official site. I'll be here to inform if this in any capacity works or if I was bamboozled by a bunch of subhumans from the depths of Maharashtra.

I will be trying to keep my routine simple. Every day:

• I'll leave it on for 1-5 minutes depending on how much my skin stings.
• I'll apply lotion afterwards as well as sun screen. (whether or not I'm supposed to indoors I really can't find a clear answer on)
• IDFK eat some oranges for vitamin C, I don't want to blow more money on supplements.
• I do not have any retinoids.

@Tigermoggerlol

Anything I'm overlooking? Am I supposed to rub this stuff all over my face. Kinda worried about putting anything this strong directly under my eyes but I have really bad hyperpigmentation surrounding them and I'm hoping this will help to even that out a lil'.



Alright my fellow LTN's rotting from the slums of the third world. Let's see if this stuff removes my tan. I'll be the first to tell you if this is cope or just didn't work for me personally...

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

GATHER AROUND YE BLACKS AND TANS!!!

Just ordered a pack of Kojie San Soap bars (currently on sale so might as well) and because of how prevalent fakes are sold on places such as Amazon I ordered directly from an official site. I'll be here to inform if this in any capacity works or if I was bamboozled by a bunch of subhumans from the depths of Maharashtra.

I will be trying to keep my routine simple. Every day:

• I'll leave it on for 1-5 minutes depending on how much my skin stings.
• I'll apply lotion afterwards as well as sun screen. (whether or not I'm supposed to indoors I really can't find a clear answer on)
• IDFK eat some oranges for vitamin C, I don't want to blow more money on supplements.
• I do not have any retinoids.

@Tigermoggerlol

Anything I'm overlooking? Am I supposed to rub this stuff all over my face. Kinda worried about putting anything this strong directly under my eyes but I have really bad hyperpigmentation surrounding them and I'm hoping this will help to even that out a lil'.



Alright my fellow LTN's rotting from the slums of the third world. Let's see if this stuff removes my tan. I'll be the first to tell you if this is cope or just didn't work for me personally...

If your just tan shit shit will leave pale asf with in a few weeks JFL but I read every molecule looks like your on the right track

 

[WanderingBurro]

If your just tan shit shit will leave pale asf with in a few weeks JFL but I read every molecule looks like your on the right track

I'd probably compare my current tanned complexion to that of your average Turk or East Asian. Something akin to the image attached below.

But that only goes for the parts of my body I let sit in the sun for years on end. This is a snippit of what my actual skin looks like untanned. Hopefully Kojie San can help even out my skin tone because these tan lines drive me crazy.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

I'd probably compare my current tanned complexion to that of your average Turk or East Asian. Something akin to the image attached below.

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But that only goes for the parts of my body I let sit in the sun for years on end. This is a snippit of what my actual skin looks like untanned. Hopefully Kojie San can help even out my skin tone because these tan lines drive me crazy.

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Yeah Kojie finna leave u pale again

 

[theübermenschboy]

GATHER AROUND YE BLACKS AND TANS!!!

Just ordered a pack of Kojie San Soap bars (currently on sale so might as well) and because of how prevalent fakes are sold on places such as Amazon I ordered directly from an official site. I'll be here to inform if this in any capacity works or if I was bamboozled by a bunch of subhumans from the depths of Maharashtra.

I will be trying to keep my routine simple. Every day:

• I'll leave it on for 1-5 minutes depending on how much my skin stings.
• I'll apply lotion afterwards as well as sun screen. (whether or not I'm supposed to indoors I really can't find a clear answer on)
• IDFK eat some oranges for vitamin C, I don't want to blow more money on supplements.
• I do not have any retinoids.

@Tigermoggerlol

Anything I'm overlooking? Am I supposed to rub this stuff all over my face. Kinda worried about putting anything this strong directly under my eyes but I have really bad hyperpigmentation surrounding them and I'm hoping this will help to even that out a lil'.



Alright my fellow LTN's rotting from the slums of the third world. Let's see if this stuff removes my tan. I'll be the first to tell you if this is cope or just didn't work for me personally...

Hello Hellooo. I see a curry is trying to become a pizza(JFL). Regarding the sunscreen : yes apply sunscreen everyday , I assume you live in India . The UV levels in India are high throughout the year at best moderate on the most gloomiest of gloomy overcast days ! Glass only partially blocks UV rays ,specifically UV B. UV A penetrates the glass through and through so since you are trying to Kashmirimaxx I would recommend applying sunscreen daily even whilst indoors.

 

[WanderingBurro]

Hello Hellooo. I see a curry is trying to become a pizza(JFL). Regarding the sunscreen : yes apply sunscreen everyday , I assume you live in India . The UV levels in India are high throughout the year at best moderate on the most gloomiest of gloomy overcast days ! Glass only partially blocks UV rays ,specifically UV B. UV A penetrates the glass through and through so since you are trying to Kashmirimaxx I would recommend applying sunscreen daily even whilst indoors.

The info is very much appreciated. I'm a filthy latamcel but all this info still applies to me. I'll make sure to apply sunscreen daily so not to risk a sudden outbreak of melanocytes overreacting due to making my skin overly sensitive. Will bump this thread on a future date to report if my tan lines faded at all.

 

[theübermenschboy]

Man I am so grateful for these Dardic genes ! Anyways , do let us know how this adventure goes

 

[WanderingBurro]

I'm going to slowly ER the population of India both domestically and abroad one by one if this doesn't work. If I see another dalit auntie try and sell magical skin lightening snake oil there will be a beheading on sight.


A few days in, no results so far.

 

[gigacumster3000]

nah can't help with that. sorry, i got my results from actual tried and true methods like consistent diet and exercise. chemical stuff to mess w skin ain't for me. focus on building healthy habits and itll pay off way more in the long run than some random scam product might at first glance

 

[WanderingBurro]

nah can't help with that. sorry, i got my results from actual tried and true methods like consistent diet and exercise. chemical stuff to mess w skin ain't for me. focus on building healthy habits and itll pay off way more in the long run than some random scam product might at first glance

I would go off a consistent diet and exercise but diet and exercise won't fade away tan lines. Kojic acid soap is less of a scam but so many people overblow the results that it's hard to tell what can truly be expected. I'm not even looking to make my natural skin lighter, I just want to clear off this farmer's tan I've had for years.

 

[foresthills]

saving this, i'm white asian hopefully this stuff works for me too

 

[WanderingBurro]

saving this, i'm white asian hopefully this stuff works for me too

Unlike currycels who'll only ever become a wheatish at most, a lot of Asians have naturally pale skin so Asian kojic acid soap results give me lifefuel.

 

[WanderingBurro]

I return approximately 2 weeks into using kojic acid soap and I must say my results so far are disappointing to say the least. Considering many results seem to kick in around 1-3 months I will however continue using kojic acid soap.

Changes I have noticed:

• My skin has a slight shine to it (somewhat similar to that of extended use of tretinoin though not as extreme), despite this my skin has not changed one bit in tone, and with untanned parts of my body it is very easy to make this side by side comparison under the same lighting.
• Acne forms much easier. It only takes a bit of rubbing and scratching to the applied area for pimples to quickly form the day after. It's rather annoying.
• My skin feels a little dry and stiff, rather similar to my experience using lemon juice. (another detanning cope).
• The hyperpigmentation around my eyes has not at all faded.

I'm honestly losing hope in this but I hear the skin refreshes every 30 ish days and my tan is over a decade long. I'll continue providing updates though I'm really starting to think that I should just bank my money on detanning lasers.

 

[inversions]

I return approximately 2 weeks into using kojic acid soap and I must say my results so far are disappointing to say the least. Considering many results seem to kick in around 1-3 months I will however continue using kojic acid soap.

Changes I have noticed:

• My skin has a slight shine to it (somewhat similar to that of extended use of tretinoin though not as extreme), despite this my skin has not changed one bit in tone, and with untanned parts of my body it is very easy to make this side by side comparison under the same lighting.
• Acne forms much easier. It only takes a bit of rubbing and scratching to the applied area for pimples to quickly form the day after. It's rather annoying.
• My skin feels a little dry and stiff, rather similar to my experience using lemon juice. (another detanning cope).
• The hyperpigmentation around my eyes has not at all faded.

I'm honestly losing hope in this but I hear the skin refreshes every 30 ish days and my tan is over a decade long. I'll continue providing updates though I'm really starting to think that I should just bank my money on detanning lasers.

@Tigermoggerlol did you lie to these poor ethnic souls

 

[WanderingBurro]

@Tigermoggerlol did you lie to these poor ethnic souls

I was about to make a comment on his thread.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

@Tigermoggerlol did you lie to these poor ethnic souls

No there just impatient “2 weeks” ain’t gonna do shit it takes a month +

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

I return approximately 2 weeks into using kojic acid soap and I must say my results so far are disappointing to say the least. Considering many results seem to kick in around 1-3 months I will however continue using kojic acid soap.

Changes I have noticed:

• My skin has a slight shine to it (somewhat similar to that of extended use of tretinoin though not as extreme), despite this my skin has not changed one bit in tone, and with untanned parts of my body it is very easy to make this side by side comparison under the same lighting.
• Acne forms much easier. It only takes a bit of rubbing and scratching to the applied area for pimples to quickly form the day after. It's rather annoying.
• My skin feels a little dry and stiff, rather similar to my experience using lemon juice. (another detanning cope).
• The hyperpigmentation around my eyes has not at all faded.

I'm honestly losing hope in this but I hear the skin refreshes every 30 ish days and my tan is over a decade long. I'll continue providing updates though I'm really starting to think that I should just bank my money on detanning lasers.

Give a few months dawg

 

[WanderingBurro]

No there just impatient “2 weeks” ain’t gonna do shit it takes a month +

Give a few months dawg

I'll bring in a report when this month is over, and if still no results I'll give mild updates until 3 months. I may or may not try adding retinoids to my routine (after the 1 month point) as I've heard that can help to get rid of a tan and many people seem to combine it with kojic acid soap.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

I'll bring in a report when this month is over, and if still no results I'll give mild updates until 3 months. I may or may not try adding retinoids to my routine (after the 1 month point) as I've heard that can help to get rid of a tan and many people seem to combine it with kojic acid soap.

If it doesn’t work after 3 months it means it just doesn’t work for u wand u need to try other bleaching agents

 

[WanderingBurro]

1 Month Checkpoint.


Literally no difference. I'll hold in for the next two months but I think I'll sooner chock this product up to more tales from a Philippina auntie's basement.

@Tigermoggerlol how long did this take to see any change in pigment at all. All this has done is made my skin rather shiny.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

1 Month Checkpoint.


Literally no difference. I'll hold in for the next two months but I think I'll sooner chock this product up to more tales from a Philippina auntie's basement.

@Tigermoggerlol how long did this take to see any change in pigment at all. All this has done is made my skin rather shiny.

It might just not work for u then try something else

 

[WanderingBurro]

Adding retinol to my kojic acid soap routine, will see if this brings any results after a month or two. This might as well be a detanning journey thread. I'm tired of looking up detanning threads where OP never follows up with results as detanning can take anywhere from months to a few years or so I've heard. If this thread ends with my lasering my face off to erase my tan then so be it. I'll document my whole journey here for others to take notes from.

 

[WanderingBurro]

It's almost been a week of adding retinol to my routine and only now is the kojic acid soap beginning to sting when applying the suds to my face. I hope this means it's finally starting to kick in. I sit and cope.

 

[lightswinning]

hi saar ur efforts are appreciated pls keep documenting as my kojie san just arrived and PS i alr use a retinoid and glutathione tabs( oral is cope but whatever too late to return the product now) and 2g of vitamin C. My NAC and MSM just arrived and i heard they help w raising GSH levels too but whatever i shall cope and update on this very thread if kojie san works aswell starting from tommorow as i alr applied my retinol and ion wanna start kojie rn i shall start from tommorow and update yall for science ,i hope shitskins can benefit from this.
@WanderingBurro @Tigermoggerlol

 

[lightswinning]

also @Tigermoggerlol what else did u do apart from bleaching, did you get fillers or implants or sum

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

hi saar ur efforts are appreciated pls keep documenting as my kojie san just arrived and PS i alr use a retinoid and glutathione tabs( oral is cope but whatever too late to return the product now) and 2g of vitamin C. My NAC and MSM just arrived and i heard they help w raising GSH levels too but whatever i shall cope and update on this very thread if kojie san works aswell starting from tommorow as i alr applied my retinol and ion wanna start kojie rn i shall start from tommorow and update yall for science ,i hope shitskins can benefit from this.
@WanderingBurro @Tigermoggerlol

Good luck dawg

 

[WanderingBurro]

hi saar ur efforts are appreciated pls keep documenting as my kojie san just arrived and PS i alr use a retinoid and glutathione tabs( oral is cope but whatever too late to return the product now) and 2g of vitamin C. My NAC and MSM just arrived and i heard they help w raising GSH levels too but whatever i shall cope and update on this very thread if kojie san works aswell starting from tommorow as i alr applied my retinol and ion wanna start kojie rn i shall start from tommorow and update yall for science ,i hope shitskins can benefit from this.
@WanderingBurro @Tigermoggerlol

Wishing you have more luck than I currently have. With my tan having been present for over a decade at this point I think saying it'll be stubborn to remove is an understatement.

Coincidentally I was going to make an update a day or two ago to say that whilst my skin started to sting around the one month mark, it's been stinging considerably less as the days go by. I don't know if it's due to my fresh layer of skin being initially sensitive (from what I can gather it takes around 30 days for your deepest layer of skin to surface) but if so I can only assume that my skin has grown used to it. (which I hope doesn't mean decreasing the effectiveness of my routine)

Good luck dawg

Did kojic acid soap irritate your skin less the more you used it?

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Wishing you have more luck than I currently have. With my tan having been present for over a decade at this point I think saying it'll be stubborn to remove is an understatement.

Coincidentally I was going to make an update a day or two ago to say that whilst my skin started to sting around the one month mark, it's been stinging considerably less as the days go by. I don't know if it's due to my fresh layer of skin being initially sensitive (from what I can gather it takes around 30 days for your deepest layer of skin to surface) but if so I can only assume that my skin has grown used to it. (which I hope doesn't mean decreasing the effectiveness of my routine)


Did kojic acid soap irritate your skin less the more you used it?

Yeah

 

[lightswinning]

Wishing you have more luck than I currently have. With my tan having been present for over a decade at this point I think saying it'll be stubborn to remove is an understatement.

Coincidentally I was going to make an update a day or two ago to say that whilst my skin started to sting around the one month mark, it's been stinging considerably less as the days go by. I don't know if it's due to my fresh layer of skin being initially sensitive (from what I can gather it takes around 30 days for your deepest layer of skin to surface) but if so I can only assume that my skin has grown used to it. (which I hope doesn't mean decreasing the effectiveness of my routine)


Did kojic acid soap irritate your skin less the more you used it?

was there any progress w the skintone? also your supposed to apply your retinol after the kojie san use right? I dont really have a tan im pretty lightskin but i just want to bleachmaxx to just fully whitemaxx so im assuming this is going to be considerably more difficult than just removing a tan, might require stronger bleaching agents, might cope with hydro or monobenzone if no progress after a few months use, will update here. Also thinking of upgrading to a stronger retinoid like tret in a week as i currently only have retinol

 

[WanderingBurro]

was there any progress w the skintone? also your supposed to apply your retinol after the kojie san use right? I dont really have a tan im pretty lightskin but i just want to bleachmaxx to just fully whitemaxx so im assuming this is going to be considerably more difficult than just removing a tan, might require stronger bleaching agents, might cope with hydro or monobenzone if no progress after a few months use, will update here. Also thinking of upgrading to a stronger retinoid like tret in a week as i currently only have retinol

Still no progress with skintone (actual 0 change) but I'm still holding out here since I hear for some people results come in around 1-3 months, with some saying tan removal took around 7+ months. (the more severe and more long term the tan the longer it may take from what I can gather)

I don't think lightening your base skin colour is possible from everything I've seen and read but if so isn't the case for you then be sure to inform us. Removing a tan alone is surprisingly a lot harder than it may seem. I myself might consider pleading for a hydroquinone prescription if this soap doesn't yield results. As for monobenzone I wouldn't recommend it. Whilst it's arguably the only thing that can truely depigment darker skin tone its effectiveness on non-vitiligo skin is minimal at best. The body of a vitiligo patient attacks its own melanocytes with monobenzone only helping to aid that battle. The body of a non-vitiligo patient will only undo any progress you make with monobenzone and said progress is so slow that you're unlikely to get results from it.

Yeah

Good to hear, I will wait an extra month or two to see if any progress manifests.

 

[lightswinning]

Still no progress with skintone (actual 0 change) but I'm still holding out here since I hear for some people results come in around 1-3 months, with some saying tan removal took around 7+ months. (the more severe and more long term the tan the longer it may take from what I can gather)

I don't think lightening your base skin colour is possible from everything I've seen and read but if so isn't the case for you then be sure to inform us. Removing a tan alone is surprisingly a lot harder than it may seem. I myself might consider pleading for a hydroquinone prescription if this soap doesn't yield results. As for monobenzone I wouldn't recommend it. Whilst it's arguably the only thing that can truely depigment darker skin tone its effectiveness on non-vitiligo skin is minimal at best. The body of a vitiligo patient attacks its own melanocytes with monobenzone only helping to aid that battle. The body of a non-vitiligo patient will only undo any progress you make with monobenzone and said progress is so slow that you're unlikely to get results from it.

Good to hear, I will wait an extra month or two to see if any progress manifests.

just self induce yourself with monobenzone-induced vitiligo to bleach brah theory, havent done much research on the literature but yeah might try hydroquinone then, i dont think any jew doctor is giving a 17 yo prescription so i think ill source it from indiamart ,it might be that kojie san works for certain skin types or something like that i cant believe @Tigermoggerlol achieved results like that w just kojie san, might be that his skin type or genetics are easily prone to bleaching by kojie san, also you should definitely be using an spf uva + uvb 24/7 even indoors tbh if your trying to de-tan . I'll update if kojie san works

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

just self induce yourself with monobenzone-induced vitiligo to bleach brah theory, havent done much research on the literature but yeah might try hydroquinone then, i dont think any jew doctor is giving a 17 yo prescription so i think ill source it from indiamart ,it might be that kojie san works for certain skin types or something like that i cant believe @Tigermoggerlol achieved results like that w just kojie san, might be that his skin type or genetics are easily prone to bleaching by kojie san, also you should definitely be using an spf uva + uvb 24/7 even indoors tbh if your trying to de-tan . I'll update if kojie san works

lol it wasn’t just kojie San I did hydroquinone and arbutin to

 

[lightswinning]

lol it wasn’t just kojie San I did hydroquinone and arbutin to

getting hydro off indiamart asap then

 

[lightswinning]

lol it wasn’t just kojie San I did hydroquinone and arbutin to

also your gonions and chin grew considerably brah did you do gh or something drop the cycle @Tigermoggerlol

 

[WanderingBurro]

just self induce yourself with monobenzone-induced vitiligo to bleach brah theory, havent done much research on the literature but yeah might try hydroquinone then, i dont think any jew doctor is giving a 17 yo prescription so i think ill source it from indiamart ,it might be that kojie san works for certain skin types or something like that i cant believe @Tigermoggerlol achieved results like that w just kojie san, might be that his skin type or genetics are easily prone to bleaching by kojie san, also you should definitely be using an spf uva + uvb 24/7 even indoors tbh if your trying to de-tan . I'll update if kojie san works

The world is not ready for when we find out how to intentionally induce vitiligo. And yes I'm still applying sunscreen even when indoors.

lol it wasn’t just kojie San I did hydroquinone and arbutin to

When did you introduce hydro to your routine, starting with kojie san or later on?

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

also your gonions and chin grew considerably brah did you do gh or something drop the cycle @Tigermoggerlol

No cycle. Just filler

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

The world is not ready for when we find out how to intentionally induce vitiligo. And yes I'm still applying sunscreen even when indoors.

When did you introduce hydro to your routine, starting with kojie san or later on?

I added hydro like a month and half ago now

 

[lightswinning]

No cycle. Just filler

mirin tbh

 

[lightswinning]

nigga just bleached got fillers and ascended

 

[lightswinning]

update: lowk instant results not even trolling JFL. I also dosed 600mg of NAC and 3000mg oral glutathione and 2g vitamin c and have been using retinol for quite some time tho. Now kojie san for 1 day and definitely skin whiter ( hopefully not placebo) will do the real update in a week.

@WanderingBurro you should look into NAC supplementation asap. I figured out a way to basically mimic a sublingual or even an IV glutathione say 600mg dose , will make a guide soon ( very hypothetical and theoretical tho) but yes you should look into glutathionemaxxing too and GSH maxx along w kojie san tbh.

@WanderingBurro @Tigermoggerlol

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

update: lowk instant results not even trolling JFL. I also dosed 600mg of NAC and 3000mg oral glutathione and 2g vitamin c and have been using retinol for quite some time tho. Now kojie san for 1 day and definitely skin whiter ( hopefully not placebo) will do the real update in a week.

@WanderingBurro you should look into NAC supplementation asap. I figured out a way to basically mimic a sublingual or even an IV glutathione say 600mg dose , will make a guide soon ( very hypothetical and theoretical tho) but yes you should look into glutathionemaxxing too and GSH maxx along w kojie san tbh.

@WanderingBurro @Tigermoggerlol

Nigga NAC is for your liver that ain’t gonna do shit

 

[lightswinning]

Nigga NAC is for your liver that ain’t gonna do shit

N-acetylcysteine (also known as acetylcysteine) is a form of the amino acid L-cysteine and is widely used for its antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties.
cysteine is a direct precursor to glutathione (GSH), a crucial antioxidant in the body. The synthesis of glutathione is a two-step process, with the first step requiring cysteine to be combined with glutamate by the enzyme γ-glutamyl cysteine synthetase (GCL). The amino acid cysteine provides the sulfur-containing component essential for building the glutathione molecule.

study https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213231715000841 here done in 2015, where they tested GSH levels post 1) Oral glutathione ( 150 mg i think) , 2) NAC( 600mg) , 3) Sublingual ( 600mg btw).

These were the resulting GSH levels , unironically oral glutathione decreased the post GSH levels as the change in micro mol / ml is NEGATIVE for oral administration JFL, although they were using stupidly low amounts of 150mg which is piss low tbh.

NAC however provided a decently moderate GSH increase post administration.

I extrapolated the data and found out the equivalent amounts of NAC youd have to dose to mimic a 600mg sublingual or even a 600mg IV glutathione dose( IV is 100 percent bioavailability)

These were the results:

a) Matching 600 mg sublingual GSH (27.64 µmol/L increase)​

Your options:

• NAC alone 600 mg → +20.76 µmol/L (close to target, but less)
• Oral GSH alone 1500 mg → No increase shown in study (250 mg had no effect, assume same)
• Combine oral GSH + NAC:

Since oral GSH alone shows no increase, any increase would come from NAC.


To get +27.64 µmol/L (same as 600 mg sublingual):

NAC dose needed=27.6420.76×600 mg=799 mg\text{NAC dose needed} = \frac{27.64}{20.76} \times 600\,mg = 799\, mgNAC dose needed=20.7627.64×600mg=799mg
Thus, 799 mg NAC daily alone could theoretically match 600 mg sublingual GSH.


But you have only 600 mg NAC scoops, so you would take roughly 1.33 scoops NAC (800 mg) daily + oral GSH (1500 mg), though oral GSH in the study did not increase GSH.

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b) Matching 1200 mg sublingual GSH (55.3 µmol/L increase)​

NAC dose needed=55.320.76×600 mg=1597 mg\text{NAC dose needed} = \frac{55.3}{20.76} \times 600\,mg = 1597\, mgNAC dose needed=20.7655.3×600mg=1597mg
So ~1,600 mg NAC daily (2.67 scoops) + oral GSH 1500 mg could theoretically match 1200 mg sublingual GSH.

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c) Matching 600 mg IV glutathione (41.46 µmol/L increase)​

NAC dose needed=41.4620.76×600 mg=1197 mg\text{NAC dose needed} = \frac{41.46}{20.76} \times 600\,mg = 1197\, mgNAC dose needed=20.7641.46×600mg=1197mg
~1,200 mg NAC daily (2 scoops) + oral GSH 1500 mg.

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d) Matching 1200 mg IV glutathione (82.92 µmol/L increase)​

NAC dose needed=82.9220.76×600 mg=2395 mg\text{NAC dose needed} = \frac{82.92}{20.76} \times 600\,mg = 2395\, mgNAC dose needed=20.7682.92×600mg=2395mg
~2,400 mg NAC daily (4 scoops) + oral GSH 1500 mg.

IN OTHER WORDS /TLDR:

A 1200 mg NAC powdered form dosage everyday ( mine is 600mg per scoop ) + a 3000mg glutathione oral dosage( 150mg was piss low used in the study so im assuming 3000mg would have somewhat of an effect, i mean your supplementing the precursor cysteine with NAC, so you might aswell dose Glutathione just in case) + additional supplements: 2g Vitamin C , Zinc 30mg , MSM, and Alpha Lipoic acid , should mimic even an IV 600mg glutathione dose according to that study there, but that seems too good to be true, so it should at the least mimic a 600mg sublingual dose.

 

[lightswinning]

@WanderingBurro @Tigermoggerlol

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

N-acetylcysteine (also known as acetylcysteine) is a form of the amino acid L-cysteine and is widely used for its antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties.
cysteine is a direct precursor to glutathione (GSH), a crucial antioxidant in the body. The synthesis of glutathione is a two-step process, with the first step requiring cysteine to be combined with glutamate by the enzyme γ-glutamyl cysteine synthetase (GCL). The amino acid cysteine provides the sulfur-containing component essential for building the glutathione molecule.

study https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213231715000841 here done in 2015, where they tested GSH levels post 1) Oral glutathione ( 150 mg i think) , 2) NAC( 600mg) , 3) Sublingual ( 600mg btw).

These were the resulting GSH levels , unironically oral glutathione decreased the post GSH levels as the change in micro mol / ml is NEGATIVE for oral administration JFL, although they were using stupidly low amounts of 150mg which is piss low tbh.

NAC however provided a decently moderate GSH increase post administration.

I extrapolated the data and found out the equivalent amounts of NAC youd have to dose to mimic a 600mg sublingual or even a 600mg IV glutathione dose( IV is 100 percent bioavailability)

These were the results:

a) Matching 600 mg sublingual GSH (27.64 µmol/L increase)​

Your options:

• NAC alone 600 mg → +20.76 µmol/L (close to target, but less)
• Oral GSH alone 1500 mg → No increase shown in study (250 mg had no effect, assume same)
• Combine oral GSH + NAC:

Since oral GSH alone shows no increase, any increase would come from NAC.


To get +27.64 µmol/L (same as 600 mg sublingual):

NAC dose needed=27.6420.76×600 mg=799 mg\text{NAC dose needed} = \frac{27.64}{20.76} \times 600\,mg = 799\, mgNAC dose needed=20.7627.64×600mg=799mg
Thus, 799 mg NAC daily alone could theoretically match 600 mg sublingual GSH.


But you have only 600 mg NAC scoops, so you would take roughly 1.33 scoops NAC (800 mg) daily + oral GSH (1500 mg), though oral GSH in the study did not increase GSH.

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b) Matching 1200 mg sublingual GSH (55.3 µmol/L increase)​

NAC dose needed=55.320.76×600 mg=1597 mg\text{NAC dose needed} = \frac{55.3}{20.76} \times 600\,mg = 1597\, mgNAC dose needed=20.7655.3×600mg=1597mg
So ~1,600 mg NAC daily (2.67 scoops) + oral GSH 1500 mg could theoretically match 1200 mg sublingual GSH.

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c) Matching 600 mg IV glutathione (41.46 µmol/L increase)​

NAC dose needed=41.4620.76×600 mg=1197 mg\text{NAC dose needed} = \frac{41.46}{20.76} \times 600\,mg = 1197\, mgNAC dose needed=20.7641.46×600mg=1197mg
~1,200 mg NAC daily (2 scoops) + oral GSH 1500 mg.

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d) Matching 1200 mg IV glutathione (82.92 µmol/L increase)​

NAC dose needed=82.9220.76×600 mg=2395 mg\text{NAC dose needed} = \frac{82.92}{20.76} \times 600\,mg = 2395\, mgNAC dose needed=20.7682.92×600mg=2395mg
~2,400 mg NAC daily (4 scoops) + oral GSH 1500 mg.

IN OTHER WORDS /TLDR:

A 1200 mg NAC powdered form dosage everyday ( mine is 600mg per scoop ) + a 3000mg glutathione oral dosage( 150mg was piss low used in the study so im assuming 3000mg would have somewhat of an effect, i mean your supplementing the precursor cysteine with NAC, so you might aswell dose Glutathione just in case) + additional supplements: 2g Vitamin C , Zinc 30mg , MSM, and Alpha Lipoic acid , should mimic even an IV 600mg glutathione dose according to that study there, but that seems too good to be true, so it should at the least mimic a 600mg sublingual dose.

I ain’t reading all this nigga but I’m here to tell u it don’t do shit

 

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I ain’t reading all this nigga but I’m here to tell u it don’t do shit

low iq take tbh

 

[WanderingBurro]

update: lowk instant results not even trolling JFL. I also dosed 600mg of NAC and 3000mg oral glutathione and 2g vitamin c and have been using retinol for quite some time tho. Now kojie san for 1 day and definitely skin whiter ( hopefully not placebo) will do the real update in a week.

@WanderingBurro you should look into NAC supplementation asap. I figured out a way to basically mimic a sublingual or even an IV glutathione say 600mg dose , will make a guide soon ( very hypothetical and theoretical tho) but yes you should look into glutathionemaxxing too and GSH maxx along w kojie san tbh.

@WanderingBurro @Tigermoggerlol

Got any before and after on hand or will that be for the aforementioned update? Where do you get your supplements from.

 

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Got any before and after on hand or will that be for the aforementioned update? Where do you get your supplements from.

ill PM post a month atleast just to go through with it fully but so far i can see the results kicking in, i just get it off amazon, any reputable seller will do, NAC smells like utter shit due to its sulphur compound tho so youd better be off taking it with a juice or something just a heads up

 

[WanderingBurro]

ill PM post a month atleast just to go through with it fully but so far i can see the results kicking in, i just get it off amazon, any reputable seller will do, NAC smells like utter shit due to its sulphur compound tho so youd better be off taking it with a juice or something just a heads up

Do these seem fine to go with? Do I have to pair this with glutathione supplements or should this alone yield me some results.

Amazon.com

 

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Whitemaxxing is so overrated and pointless if you live in the west. Only worth it if you live in india or southeast asia

 

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Do these seem fine to go with? Do I have to pair this with glutathione supplements or should this alone yield me some results.

Amazon.com

yeah seems legit, oral glutathione gets heavily decomposed in the digestive tract very quickly hence almost zero bioavailability, hence why in the study the GSH levels remained pretty much the same or even lesser post oral glutathione treatment, so its pretty safe to say its cope but if your gonna try , you should mega dose it with at least 3000mg a day.