AGE OF CONSENT IS UTTER BULLSHIT

[improover]

Age of Consent and Marriage:
Age of consent only in cases of marriage and giving premarital sex the death sentence.

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[Selfahate]

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[Selfahate]

Kennisgeving voor omleiding

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[Deleted member 4612]

Kennisgeving voor omleiding

"suss"

fuck people and their sheepish mindset

 

[Selfahate]

"suss"

fuck people and their sheepish mindset

Was the teenager being abused really dating a rich goodlooking man if that is abuse let me signup

 

[Selfahate]

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[Selfahate]

U need go read this

 

[Deleted member 4612]

reminder feminists fucked everything up

 

[Deleted member 4209]

what i really can't stand is this vigilante culture among working class slobs that if you're a 16yo boy who shags a 15 and 364 day old girl you're now Bill Cosby and deserve "justice". There's this whole subculture of "sting" videos on youtube where ppl pretend to be girls and "gotcha" the older guy and feel superior about it.

and you just know that these poor white trash all beat their wives, they don't actually have morals about sexual norms, they just leap at the opportunity to have power for once in their lives.

 

[Selfahate]

Can we ask the mods to pin this thread

 

[Deleted member 4612]

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reminder feminists fucked everything up

Can we ask the mods to pin this thread

@her @Lorsss @Kingkellz

would be a solid pin

 

[Deleted member 6475]

14 year olds dress and look like 19 year olds but i am a misogynist pedophile for being attracted to them

 

[Deleted member 4612]

@moggedbyevery1 read the OP of the thread.

 

[Deleted member 7521]

@moggedbyevery1 read the OP of the thread.

0 words read nigga I'm going to bed

 

[Deleted member 4612]

0 words read nigga I'm going to bed

thought so. off to bed for you

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

bassed

 

[Chadelite]

brb sharia law

brb 60 year old banging 9 year old

fbi dont h8 me just telling every1

 

[LooksmaxDon1]

tl;dr

however it's considered High IQ to support age of consent being generally high, say around 18 or so

 

[wristcel]

40 year olds wanting to fuck someone that's 17? How is that justifiable in any sense?

Every 40 year old you know would give his left nut to be able to bang these girls
(16 and 17)

 

[Deleted member 4612]

tl;dr

however it's considered High IQ to support age of consent being generally high, say around 18 or so

jfl no it's not. the reason society is falling apart is because foids are whoring around before marriage.

you're low iq as fuck if you believe otherwise

 

[LooksmaxDon1]

jfl no it's not. the reason society is falling apart is because foids are whoring around before marriage.

you're low iq as fuck if you believe otherwise

Sp you're saying it should be even higher than 18?

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Sp you're saying it should be even higher than 18?

just fucking lol, absolutely not.

the majority of the world its 14-16. where i live its 16. wherever its over 16 is giga cucked

 

[Deleted member 4612]

@goat2x @TheEndHasNoEnd @alligatordude @Syobevoli @6ft5manlet

this thread is a tad tl;dr, but it has some good insights.

you can read it, or

you can write some big ass colorful language how you're gonna send me to prison with tryone where he will rape everyone to the next dimension argghhhh

 

[Butthurt Dweller]

 

[Butthurt Dweller]

 

[Deleted member 275]

Wtf this topic is extremely high IQ and high quality. How did I miss it.

Why was it never pinned? @mods

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

@goat2x @TheEndHasNoEnd @alligatordude @Syobevoli @6ft5manlet

this thread is a tad tl;dr, but it has some good insights.

you can read it, or

you can write some big ass colorful language how you're gonna send me to prison with tryone where he will rape everyone to the next dimension argghhhh

I kinda lost attentionspan around the middle of the post but ill still try to respond

Anyways,

Making the situation even more ridiculous is the fact that a girl is indeed legally allowed to have sex with boys her own age or younger before she reaches the magic number. Thus it is that she is considered to be entirely capable of issuing consent to a man, it is simply that she is not capable of issuing consent to an older man.

Its not so much that its about being unable to consent to an older man, its that an older man has much more resources, power, mental influence, etc over men of the girls age group. I do believe in romeo and juliet laws, but only such that it wont go past a 3 year difference.The reason is that a lot of the time by 18 a guy will have a job by that age (most arent college educated at least here in the states, moreso men than women) and can have that financial influence over women. Thats just one example.

The final layer of absurdity is that it is not the girl who is punished for engaging in the illicit act, but the man whom she has targeted to loose her wiles upon. What this creates is a situation where a girl can target a man for seduction, lie about her age, and get him locked up.

Im pretty sure this is illegal for the girl to do so but correct me if im wrong

So, in theory, a woman is incapable of acquiescing to a proposal of sex from a man – but only an older man – until she reaches the mature age of 16 (or whatever the age might be in your region).

I have made the point that it is not about capability but rather power struggle

The frightening thing is that the concept of “age of consent” assumes that there is ever any age at which a woman is capable of making informed and responsible decisions about something as serious as sexual activity.

However, in America, most adult women are fat. This means that as adults, they are incapable of making proper decisions about what they eat.

This is a very broad, and even false, equivalence. The variables that go into the responsibility of diet and responsibility of sexual consent are vastly different. I dont feel like explaining them but if you want i will, but yeah theyre different.

and women must be disallowed by law from engaging in sexual activity without the permission of a male relative or, if no male relative exists, the state.

You know what this could potentially mean right? What about abusive parents? What about absurdly overprotective parents? What about absurdly traditional parents? What if the parents just dont like the guy? Etc etc etc. This is basically arrange marriagemaxxing. Age of consent laws are much less archaic than what youre proposing. Also jfl if @personalityinkwell will have a higher chance of fucking an 11 year old like this than aoc laws.

In fact, it would appear that women become less capable of managing their lives as they age. A high school girl is generally much better behaved than a college girl, and a female who has graduated college is radically irresponsible.

This sounds like more of an opinion, really. The only thing is that high school girls have less things to do but that doesnt mean managing more responsibly. Having more things to do will invariably lead you to manage more properly since it forces you to do that. And the science is is that brains dont fully mature until 25 (i believe).

We have only barren wombs, incels and broken families to show for embracing the imbecilic concept that a woman is capable of making responsible and informed sexual decisions.

This isnt due to age of consent nor is it even related. This is due to the destruction of the nuclear family, which had aoc laws back then. If anything we are closer to more pre civilized times and tribalism eith the top 1% getting it all. Funnily enough, no aoc existed then.

Furthermore, it is the woman who chooses to have sex, not the man. A man, particularly a young man, is virtually incapable of resisting sexual urges if a woman throws herself at him.

Just because women have higher standards doesnt mean they cant get irrationally horny. The blackpill is a prime example of women being visual creatures as well.

need to be punished severely with lashings

Lmaoo based tho

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Im pretty sure this is illegal for the girl to do so but correct me if im wrong

no it's not actually illegal. age of consent is a "strict liability" law.

Statutory Rape Laws and Charges

An adult who has sex with someone under the age of consent can face a variety of criminal charges depending on the state. Here's an overview with links to state-spec

www.criminaldefenselawyer.com

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

no it's not actually illegal. age of consent is a "strict liability" law.

Statutory Rape Laws and Charges

An adult who has sex with someone under the age of consent can face a variety of criminal charges depending on the state. Here's an overview with links to state-spec

www.criminaldefenselawyer.com

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If a mistake-of-age defense is allowed, a defendant needs to prove the mistake was reasonable. Facts or circumstances a defendant might use to establish proof of reasonable belief include:

• any statements or misrepresentations concerning age made by the victim to the defendant or others
• the defendant’s efforts to verify the victim’s age
• the circumstances of the defendant and victim’s acquaintance
• the victim’s physical appearance, and
• other people’s beliefs as to the victim’s age

Only in some states tho, but should be allowed everywhere

 

[Eduardo DOV]

the fact that you think 12-16 is a big fluctuation shows that you have a fixation on the girl’s youthful appearance. you are a pedophile.

 

[Deleted member 275]

I have made the point that it is not about capability but rather power struggle

The whole issue of male:female sexuality is that women are sexually attracted to men that are powerfull/more powerfull than themselves or that hold power over them. It's a part of nature, biology.

Making it unethical/immoral to have sex with women that you have power over is a battle against human nature, human sexuality. It makes 0 sense.

It would be as absurd as saying it's unethical/immoral for a lion to eat a deer, because it is stronger and holds power over the deer. No, the lion should seek a 'worthy opponent' that it has to fight with before it can eat. Absurd.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

the fact that you think 12-16 is a big fluctuation shows that you have a fixation on the girl’s youthful appearance. you are a pedophile.

im confused, what is this referring to? and do you know what pedo means? teenage isnt pedo range lol

If a mistake-of-age defense is allowed, a defendant needs to prove the mistake was reasonable. Facts or circumstances a defendant might use to establish proof of reasonable belief include:

• any statements or misrepresentations concerning age made by the victim to the defendant or others
• the defendant’s efforts to verify the victim’s age
• the circumstances of the defendant and victim’s acquaintance
• the victim’s physical appearance, and
• other people’s beliefs as to the victim’s age

Only in some states tho, but should be allowed everywhere

i do think i may have heard about that, and i agree that should apply everywhere, kinda bs most states dont do it

 

[Eduardo DOV]

im confused, what is this referring to? and do you know what pedo means? teenage isnt pedo range lol

i do think i may have heard about that, and i agree that should apply everywhere, kinda bs most states dont do it

you are the villain, i am the hero
shut up pedophile

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

The whole issue of male:female sexuality is that women are sexually attracted to men that are powerfull/more powerfull than themselves or that hold power over them. It's a part of nature, biology.

Making it unethical/immoral to have sex with women that you have power over is a battle against human nature, human sexuality. It makes 0 sense.

It would be as absurd as saying it's unethical/immoral for a lion to eat a deer, because it is stronger and holds power over the deer. No, the lion should seek a 'worthy opponent' that it has to fight with before it can eat. Absurd.

Thats like saying fuck disabled people and they shouldnt get special benefits just because theyre not biologically fit. I dont support tribalism

And i obvs meant abusive power over women

 

[Deleted member 275]

Thats like saying fuck disabled people and they shouldnt get special benefits just because of it. I dont support tribalism

And i obvs meant abusive power over women

Because forcing people with police violence to pay more taxes to support disabled people is very noble?

'abusive power over women', what does it mean? With this whole #MeToo culture, a culture where flirting with a girl at work is considered sexual harassment, and sexual harassment is almost as bad as rape, I have no idea what it means anymore.

Men lose their jobs over telling their female secretary that she has a nice ass in 2020. That's where we stand right now with this debate.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

you are the villain, i am the hero
shut up pedophile

what is the 12-16 thing and what are you saying about "if you think its a big deviation"?

and jfl if you think you are saving anyone by shrieking pedo over the internet.

 

[Eduardo DOV]

what is the 12-16 thing and what are you saying about "if you think its a big deviation"?

and jfl if you think you are saving anyone by shrieking pedo over the internet.

jfl if u didnt notice im trolling
u fuckin autistic retard

 

[Deleted member 6573]

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[Deleted member 4612]

jfl if u didnt notice im trolling
u fuckin autistic retard

banderas

 

[Eduardo DOV]

sometimes reality checks are necessary.

banderas

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Because forcing people with police violence to pay more taxes to support disabled people is very noble?

'abusive power over women', what does it mean? With this whole #MeToo culture, a culture where flirting with a girl at work is considered sexual harassment, and sexual harassment is almost as bad as rape, I have no idea what it means anymore.

Police violentce? What? Ok so you are a moral relativist, i am not going to debate your philosophy it is pointless
So what i meant by abusive power in my point is that, a 16 year old girl would be in high school and a 23 year old male would most likely be done woth college and prob have a job. Thats a lot more years of life experience and a lot more financial power. The 23 year old has been through high school, knows what the people are like, etc. He can easily manipulate the 16 year old to do what he likes, and has the financial power to blackmail too. Even if the 16 year old DOES show interest, who knows how long until she loses it, yet, the 23 year old can manipulate and blackmail her all he wants. He has complete and utter dominance over her.

 

[Deleted member 5698]

Bobs and vagene

 

[Deleted member 6400]

DN RD but I agree

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Police violentce? What? Ok so you are a moral relativist, i am not going to debate your philosophy it is pointless
So what i meant by abusive power in my point is that, a 16 year old girl would be in high school and a 23 year old male would most likely be done woth college and prob have a job. Thats a lot more years of life experience and a lot more financial power. The 23 year old has been through high school, knows what the people are like, etc. He can easily manipulate the 16 year old to do what he likes, and has the financial power to blackmail too. Even if the 16 year old DOES show interest, who knows how long until she loses it, yet, the 23 year old can manipulate and blackmail her all he wants. He has complete and utter dominance over her.

well, i could argue that an average 18 year old girl has complete and utter dominance over a 16 year old boy because of the immense sexual power she has over him.

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

well, i could argue that an average 18 year old girl has complete and utter dominance over a 16 year old boy because of the immense sexual power she has over him.

I advocate for romeo and juliet laws so that age gap is fine for me, but i dont disagree that women are inferior (weaker) but thats the reason why i believe they should be more protected. That example isnt nearly as (or even at all) dangerous compared to the financial and mental dominance an older man has to a younger woman

 

[Deleted member 4612]

I advocate for romeo and juliet laws so that age gap is fine for me, but i dont disagree that women are inferior (weaker) but thats the reason why i believe they should be more protected. That example isnt nearly as (or even at all) dangerous compared to the financial and mental dominance an older man has to a younger woman

you sound like a feminist "oh protect the women"

women have way more power over men in today's society, i would argue it is more dangerous.

and once again, women seek to be dominated, you are demonizing nature

 

[Deleted member 275]

Police violentce? What? Ok so you are a moral relativist, i am not going to debate your philosophy it is pointless

Not sure what you mean by that, but I made it clear what I mean in any case. Money is never free and comes from somewhere at some human cost.

So what i meant by abusive power in my point is that, a 16 year old girl would be in high school and a 23 year old male would most likely be done woth college and prob have a job. Thats a lot more years of life experience and a lot more financial power.

So a 23 year old that hasn't finished college and lives in poverty, minimum wage. It would be more moral, according to you, for him to be with a 16yo than a 23yo male that has rich parents or has a good job? Since the first 23 year old guy has no financial dominance and is probably worse off than the 16yo girl?

The 23 year old has been through high school, knows what the people are like, etc. He can easily manipulate the 16 year old to do what he likes, and has the financial power to blackmail too. Even if the 16 year old DOES show interest, who knows how long until she loses it, yet, the 23 year old can manipulate and blackmail her all he wants. He has complete and utter dominance over her.

So you are saying that 23 year old incels don't really exist? Since a 23yo male, with his life experience, could easily dominate a 16 year old girl to have sex with him and do whatever he pleases.

For example this 23 year old guy, he could easily manipulate 16 year old girls to have sex with him, so it would be immoral for him to do so.

He has complete and utter dominance over her. A girl like this 16 year old for example:

His social skills and manipulation techniques, learned over the years, would put the girl at his mercy?

 

[Deleted member 4612]

has the financial power to blackmail too

how exactly can he blackmail financially?

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

So a 23 year old that hasn't finished college and lives in poverty, minimum wage. It would be more moral, according to you, for him to be with a 16yo than a 23yo male that has rich parents or has a good job? Since the first 23 year old guy has no financial dominance and is probably worse off than the 16yo girl?

See, these are extremities, i was speaking generally. Generally, a 23 year old male has a lot more mental and financial power than a 16 year old female, we can both agree to that. Your use of extremities would be like me saying how about an 11 year old girl whos done developing, is she less mature than an 18 year old guy who isnt? Well duh no, but isnt it absurd to question if an 18 year old male shouldnt have sex with an 11 year old just because of an extreme outlier? Your example of the incel and and kate li (thats her right) made me cage but, that example would just be rape, and that goes for two people of legal age too obviously. im talking about two consenting people

how exactly can he blackmail financially?

I meant like manipulate by money, make her do fucked shit or shit she doesnt wanna do, etc etc

 

[Deleted member 4612]

I meant like manipulate by money, make her do fucked shit or shit she doesnt wanna do, etc etc

well as far as i'm concerned, most states in the usa already have an age of consent of 16