Am I balding/receding?

[AbuSdanteet]

20M, noticing some extra hairs shedding. Most (at least like 95% of them) have white bulbs at the end (which indicates telogen efflevium). Need a second opinion on whether there is androgenic alopecia involved or not.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

@BucketCrab @Clavicular

 

[AbuSdanteet]

@Rabbi

@Zeekie

 

[Copercel]

20M, noticing some extra hairs shedding. Most (at least like 95% of them) have white bulbs at the end (which indicates telogen efflevium). Need a second opinion on whether there is androgenic alopecia involved or not. View attachment 3942540View attachment 3942544

Tbh you’re just a nigger, most of you have this.

But for case get on fin/dut and RU.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Tbh you’re just a nigger, most of you have this.

How did bro know I’m part black

Anyway, is there anything odd?

But for case get on fin/dut and RU.

Yeah, I’m thinking abt getting hair consultation first. But I think RU is cope. It isn’t fda approved, better to use topical fin only or combine it with oral fin.

 

[Copercel]

Anyway, is there anything odd?

doesn’t seem like it, but better being safe than sorry . Don’t wait until you’re balding, start to prevent it now.

Yeah, I’m thinking abt getting hair consultation first. But I think RU is cope. It isn’t fda approved, better to use topical fin only or combine it with oral fin.

RU is not cope, it may not be FDA approved but almost any one who tried it saw crazy benefits. It’s much better than topical fin for a lot of reasons.
My female cousin and her boyfriend are doctors, they both said that it’s working and even someone who my cousin’s boyfriend know tried it and it worked for him, I talked with him (the one who tried it) about it and he said it’s doing wonders.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

doesn’t seem like it, but better to start earlier than too late. Don’t wait until you’re balding, start to prevent it now.

RU is not cope, it may not be FDA approved but almost any one who tried it saw crazy benefits. It’s much better than topical fin for a lot of reasons.
My female cousin and her boyfriend are doctors, they both said that it’s working and even someone who my cousin’s boyfriend know tried it and it worked for him, I talked with him (the one who tried it) about it and he said it’s doing wonders.

Yeah it probably works. Although I heard it can have side effects like heart issues.

I don’t deny that it works. But how can you be sure it works better than topical fin?

 

[Copercel]

Yeah it probably works. Although I heard it can have side effects like heart issues.

heart issues? Never heard of it.

I don’t deny that it works. But how can you be sure it works better than topical fin?

Because RU blocks ALL the androgens in your scalp, unlike topical fin which blocks only DHT.
Also topical fin can be systemically even though it’s topical. It can lowers serum DHT, RU isn’t systemic.

It’s useless to use topical fin, just use the oral fin atp.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Because RU blocks ALL the androgens in your scalp, unlike topical fin which blocks only DHT.

Well that’s useless because DHT is the only(or main) androgen that causes hair loss. That’s why medications such as fin and dut block dht only. Testosterone doesn’t cause hair loss directly, it’s an indirect cause since it converts into dht, but it doesn’t directly attack the hair follicles. I could be wrong but just sharing what I know.

It’s useless to use topical fin, just use the oral fin atp.

I’m somewhat agree. Oral fin > topical fin any day.

I’ll wait a bit and then my stack will be oral fin + ru48841 + ketocanazle shampoo.

One thing I’m scared of with oral fin is getting gyno or ED. What do you think

 

[Copercel]

One thing I’m scared of with oral fin is getting gyno or ED. What do you think

mostly fearmongering, PFS is very rare. And for most people it’s reversible so don’t worry about it.

Also would you rather be a hairless incel who won’t reproduce anyway or have a head full of hair and be chad?

 

[AbuSdanteet]

mostly fearmongering, PFS is very rare. And for most people it’s reversible so don’t worry about it.

Also would you rather be a hairless incel who won’t reproduce anyway or have a head full of hair and be chad?

True that. But even with hair I’m subhuman . At least I’ll be less subhuman preserving if

 

[Zeekie]

You may not necessarily balding, that could just be hairline maturation. I'd start to worry if the hair loss is very progressive and uneven, and if your hairline starts to look like an M. But it's a normal part of growing that your hairline recedes a little bit, that's just hairline maturation and doesn't necessarily imply AGA, although I'd still start preventative treatment just in case, or specially if people in your family are balding.

Oral minox and dutasteride should do the job

 

[AbuSdanteet]

You may not necessarily balding, that could just be hairline maturation. I'd start to worry if the hair loss is very progressive and uneven, and if your hairline starts to look like an M. But it's a normal part of growing that your hairline recedes a little bit, that's just hairline maturation and doesn't necessarily imply AGA, although I'd still start preventative treatment just in case, or specially if people in your family are balding.

Oral minox and dutasteride should do the job

1.) do you see any temple thinning?

2.) hairline maturation is still caused by DHT I believe (correct me if I’m wrong) , so it can still be stopped by finasteride right?


Appreciate the help as usual. Saving me from copes

 

[Zeekie]

1.) do you see any temple thinning?

Well, unless you have a before picture I can't say for SURE, but I think there is indeed a little bit of thinning, specially since you have the concern, it's obviously going on.

2.) hairline maturation is still caused by DHT I believe (correct me if I’m wrong) , so it can still be stopped by finasteride right?

Yup, finasteride can help here.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Well, unless you have a before picture I can't say for SURE, but I think there is indeed a little bit of thinning, specially since you have the concern, it's obviously going on.


Yup, finasteride can help here.

I have a picture of me like 3 weeks ago before I got the haircut. Wanna see?

I also wanna mention the thinning happened suddenly, and the hairs usually have white bulbs, I searched it up and it said it could be telogen phase/efflevium

 

[Zeekie]

I have a picture of me like 3 weeks ago before I got the haircut. Wanna see?

Yeah sure.

I also wanna mention the thinning happened suddenly, and the hairs usually have white bulbs, I searched it up and it said it could be telogen phase/efflevium

Well now that'd be a little more concerning, and it depends on how "sudden" it was, bc hairline maturation usually takes a while, it's a slow process, so if within the span of a couple of weeks you saw very sudden recession, it may be the Norwood Reaper knocking at your door.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Yeah sure.


Well now that'd be a little more concerning, and it depends on how "sudden" it was, bc hairline maturation usually takes a while, it's a slow process, so if within the span of a couple of weeks you saw very sudden recession, it may be the Norwood Reaper knocking at your door.

Well the Norwood reaper doesn’t happen suddenly, it’s a slow process. And white bulbs at the end of the hair indicate telogen phase/efflevium. Only way to know is to get a blood test and scalp biopsy

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Yeah sure.


Well now that'd be a little more concerning, and it depends on how "sudden" it was, bc hairline maturation usually takes a while, it's a slow process, so if within the span of a couple of weeks you saw very sudden recession, it may be the Norwood Reaper knocking at your door.

 

[punchmademaxxer]

20M, noticing some extra hairs shedding. Most (at least like 95% of them) have white bulbs at the end (which indicates telogen efflevium). Need a second opinion on whether there is androgenic alopecia involved or not. View attachment 3942540View attachment 3942544

thats how a male's hairline looks after 18

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Yeah sure.


Well now that'd be a little more concerning, and it depends on how "sudden" it was, bc hairline maturation usually takes a while, it's a slow process, so if within the span of a couple of weeks you saw very sudden recession, it may be the Norwood Reaper knocking at your door.

I should also mention that as soon as I noticed something, I used ru58841 for a month. And barely any improvement I think.

I hopped off ru for like a week. Now, my shedding is substantially less. So I’m really thinking it’s telogen efflevium caused by stress and diet issues I had months ago. But idk

 

[AbuSdanteet]

thats how a male's hairline looks after 18

You think so?

I don’t want it to recede any more

 

[punchmademaxxer]

You think so?

I don’t want it to recede any more

Just get your DHT checked out and maybe try a lightweight treatment with castor oil, minoxidil and dermaroller for the moment, if it keeps worsening use something like finasteride (jewish trick) or finasteride (jewish trick)

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Just get your DHT checked out and maybe try a lightweight treatment with castor oil, minoxidil and dermaroller for the moment, if it keeps worsening use something like finasteride (jewish trick) or finasteride (jewish trick)

I’m guessing you’re against finasteride since ur calling it a Jew trick?

 

[punchmademaxxer]

I’m guessing you’re against finasteride since ur calling it a Jew trick?

No, thats just how other people call it and I find it funny

 

[AbuSdanteet]

No, thats just how other people call it and I find it funny

Yeah. Worst comes to worst

Will just use oral fin + topical ru58841 + ketocanazle shampoo.

 

[Yeagerist]

Yes its the early stage, get dut

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Yes its the early stage, get dut

Probably. But I get the feeling it’s telogen efflevium due to the white bulbs at the end.

Either way. If it is balding/receding. I’m hopping on oral fin + topical ru58841 + ketocanazle shampoo.

 

[SAQUIB66]

20M, noticing some extra hairs shedding. Most (at least like 95% of them) have white bulbs at the end (which indicates telogen efflevium). Need a second opinion on whether there is androgenic alopecia involved or not. View attachment 3942540View attachment 3942544

Over

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Over

Over for your boosack when I grab it :3

 

[SAQUIB66]

Over for your boosack when I grab it :3

Over

 

[AbuSdanteet]

@Gargantuan

 

[AbuSdanteet]

bump

 

[Copercel]

bump

How the fuck did you not understood what to do yet?

 

[AbuSdanteet]

How the fuck did you not understood what to do yet?

I did understand what to do. I’m bumping to get second opinions on whether I’m actually balding/receding or not. Don’t worry bro your advice did not go in vain.

 

[whitebitchslayer]

20M, noticing some extra hairs shedding. Most (at least like 95% of them) have white bulbs at the end (which indicates telogen efflevium). Need a second opinion on whether there is androgenic alopecia involved or not. View attachment 3942540View attachment 3942544

Yes. Mark as solution

 

[AbuSdanteet]

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@Zeekie thoughts? This was pre haircut like 2-3 weeks ago

 

[AbuSdanteet]

H

Yes. Mark as solution

How do you know

 

[whitebitchslayer]

H

How do you know

Because your hair is thin near the hairline sign of extremely high dht levels use a topical dht blocker or oral duatestride

 

[Zeekie]

@Zeekie thoughts? This was pre haircut like 2-3 weeks ago

nah bro... I think that's the reaper given the loss and the time it took try to get that fin/dut and minoxidil as soon as possible, obviously this is very early stage and reversible, but I wouldn't let it progress much further if I were you

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Because your hair is thin near the hairline sign of extremely high dht levels use a topical dht blocker or oral duatestride

nah bro... I think that's the reaper given the loss and the time it took try to get that fin/dut and minoxidil as soon as possible, obviously this is very early stage and reversible, but I wouldn't let it progress much further if I were you

Aight I’ll hop on fin as soon as I can. Man I hate dht. If dht was a person I’d kick it in the boosack.

But I read online that increased shedding with white bulbs is a sign of telogen efflevium and not AGA.

Btw side question. Can I use fin by itself without minoxidil? Heard fin/dut is better at regrowth than minoxidil even.

 

[whitebitchslayer]

Btw side question. Can I use fin by itself without minoxidil? Heard fin/dut is better at regrowth than minoxidil even.

Yea it will stop balding but isn’t going to grow new hair faster than minox

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Yea it will stop balding but isn’t going to grow new hair faster than minox

Dude this sucks. I’m only 20. This was my dad’s hairline in his 30s:

He has an Norwood 4 hairline now but that’s only after he reached like mid30s to 40s.

And the white bulbs at the end of my hair strands that are shedding indicate it’s telogen related. I guess the only way to truly know is with a blood test. But I won’t cope and rule out dht

 

[Zeekie]

Aight I’ll hop on fin as soon as I can. Man I hate dht. If dht was a person I’d kick it in the boosack.

But I read online that increased shedding with white bulbs is a sign of telogen efflevium and not AGA.

Btw side question. Can I use fin by itself without minoxidil? Heard fin/dut is better at regrowth than minoxidil even.

Both AGA and telogen will have the white bulbs at the end of hair strands, in both conditions hairs fall from the roots, although it's also common for hairs in AGA to break off because of how thin and frail they become. But seeing white bulbs doesn't necessarily rule out AGA, quite the opposite, in fact.

But if you're worried about telegon efflevium, I'd work on your diet, sleep and stress levels while you get the fin/dut, just in case.

 

[Zeekie]

Btw side question. Can I use fin by itself without minoxidil? Heard fin/dut is better at regrowth than minoxidil even.

about minoxidil, it's not needed, you can use both topical (which is easy as hell to get on a pharmacy) or oral (which requires a prescription), but it's more a supplementary treatment than a solution. Finasteride or dutasteride will fix the root cause, but they WILL NOT grow your hair, they will just stop and prevent the hair loss.

People usually use minoxidil as well because it helps recover the hair faster, and often bring it back looking even better. So minoxidil "speeds up" the process.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

about minoxidil, it's not needed, you can use both topical (which is easy as hell to get on a pharmacy) or oral (which requires a prescription), but it's more a supplementary treatment than a solution. Finasteride or dutasteride will fix the root cause, but they WILL NOT grow your hair, they will just stop and prevent the hair loss.

People usually use minoxidil as well because it helps recover the hair faster, and often bring it back looking even better. So minoxidil "speeds up" the process.

Yeah, topical minox is easy to get. You can get it from Walgreens, Costco, amazon, etc. the oral one is a bit more difficult albeit still easy, you can get it from alldaychemist and skinorac (Indian pharmacies).

My question is, should I use minox orally or topically? I’m scared of the oral side effects such as heart issues, edema, or allergic side effects that require the emergency room. I’m also planning on adding ru58841 to my oral fin stack.

 

[Zeekie]

Yeah, topical minox is easy to get. You can get it from Walgreens, Costco, amazon, etc. the oral one is a bit more difficult albeit still easy, you can get it from alldaychemist and skinorac (Indian pharmacies).

My question is, should I use minox orally or topically? I’m scared of the oral side effects such as heart issues, edema, or allergic side effects that require the emergency room. I’m also planning on adding ru58841 to my oral fin stack.

It is massively unlikely that oral minoxidil will get you to the hospital, you may have a bad reaction, on whatever case just stop usage, but that's very rare. But if you want, you can just use the topical solution if you want the "optimal" results, it's almost just as effective

 

[AbuSdanteet]

It is massively unlikely that oral minoxidil will get you to the hospital, you may have a bad reaction, on whatever case just stop usage, but that's very rare. But if you want, you can just use the topical solution if you want the "optimal" results, it's almost just as effective

Sounds good. Of course before all this I’m gonna quickly consult with my doctor to see what’s happening to me.

If it’s dht induced then I’m gonna get so mad ngl. My dad started receding slightly in his late 20s early 30s. And I’m sure he had higher T/DHT than me cuz he was born in 1966 (men back then had higher T -> DHT).

FUCK.

I just hope I don’t get ED or gyno from oral fin.

 

[AbuSdanteet]

Only solution is to bonesmash my hair follicles to stimulate hair growth.

 

[nuisance]

mostly fearmongering, PFS is very rare. And for most people it’s reversible so don’t worry about it.

Also would you rather be a hairless incel who won’t reproduce anyway or have a head full of hair and be chad?

pfs might be rare but libido decrease is very common. Decrease libido = worse erections.

Hair is life tho

 

[nuisance]

Yeah, topical minox is easy to get. You can get it from Walgreens, Costco, amazon, etc. the oral one is a bit more difficult albeit still easy, you can get it from alldaychemist and skinorac (Indian pharmacies).

My question is, should I use minox orally or topically? I’m scared of the oral side effects such as heart issues, edema, or allergic side effects that require the emergency room. I’m also planning on adding ru58841 to my oral fin stack.

dont jump the gun dude your not even balding bad there are some signs but its not bad yet.

Just pop oral finasteride and maybe minoxidil topically if you're not satisfied after 6 months. I would say oral fin or topical would be enough.