Artificially creating a second growth spurt

[JustTrynaGrow]

This is more then likely not going to work but hell anything is worth a shot eh? Chad or death

Basically from my limited knowlage a surge of testosterone is what kickstarts a growth spurt in a tween/teen boy so I'm planning to replicate this. 10 days prior to taking the testosterone I will have started my cycle which looks like this:

CJC no dac
MK677
Huperzine A
Creatine
L-Dopa
GABA
Aromasin
Glucosamine
Chondroitin
Melatonin
Flurbiprofen
k2
Multivitamins
DHT gel
(Final dosages yet to be decided)

I'm hoping some of you here can tell me the following:
1. An in depth explanation as why there is no way in the fuck this will work.
2. Any other horomones that surge with testosterone and induce the growth spurt
3. Confirm that a single shot of testosterone (or more likely prohoromones) is not enough to shut down my testosterone and I won't need PCT.

 

[Deleted member 2933]

Gl sir, im watching it, i need a second puberty in my face bones

 

[her]

Good luck.

 

[Tom2004]

We defo need more research done on Heightmaxxing because it's the hardest looksmax fr

 

[JustTrynaGrow]

Gl sir, im watching it, i need a second puberty in my face bones

If your still relativly young your best bet is to probably use DHT gel. Also furbiprofen and k2 if you're extra and want every chance. Mewing(if you believe in it) braces and surgery are the only other options. Unless you want to try bonesmashing jfl

 

[Deleted member 2933]

If your still relativly young your best bet is to probably use DHT gel. Also furbiprofen and k2 if you're extra and want every chance. Mewing(if you believe in it) braces and surgery are the only other options. Unless you want to try bonesmashing jfl

24, only implants now.My mid and upper third are good, my lower is inceltier.

 

[JustTrynaGrow]

We defo need more research done on Heightmaxxing because it's the hardest looksmax fr

I'm too late into puberty to hope any real research shows up. Just trying stuff on myself as a last ditch effort really. Maybe there is a god?

 

[Deleted member 2933]

We defo need more research done on Heightmaxxing because it's the hardest looksmax fr

Yeah bro Height still a challenge even with our knowledges

 

[Mr manlet]

I'm hoping some of you here can tell me the following:
1. An in depth explanation as why there is no way in the fuck this will work.

Life has other plans bro.

 

[Jecht]

This is dumb, the only thing that is needed for growth is a growth plate and hgh. If you dont have a growth plate the only option is LL surgery.
But if you have one than just take letrozole and hgh.

 

[JustTrynaGrow]

This is dumb, the only thing that is needed for growth is a growth plate and hgh. If you dont have a growth plate the only option is LL surgery.
But if you have one than just take letrozole and hgh.

You're either being sarcastic for some reason or have an IQ level akin to that of a chimpanzee.
I'm giving you the benifit of the doubt here so just don't respond please

 

[Deleted member 2527]

foot sole implants

 

[reptiles]

We defo need more research done on Heightmaxxing because it's the hardest looksmax fr

When the coping is to strong the real hardest one is skull maxing

 

[Newguyaround]

These are most of the I know


Most steroids will work peferably take one that cant be aromatizeabl.If you do take one that can aromatize then you must take a ai
I ll list that one that are used.
standalone(oral dht) I'm not sure abouot this one
Very androgenic and not anabolic

Androgen-stimulated pubertal growth: the effects of testosterone and dihydrotestosterone on growth hormone and insulin-like growth factor-I in the treatment of short stature and delayed puberty - PubMed

The purpose of this study was to investigate the roles of androgenic and estrogenic mechanisms in the stimulation of structural growth and plasma GH in male puberty. To resolve these two possible mechanisms, we compared the effect of two androgens in the treatment of constitutional delay in...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Acceleration of HV into the peak pubertal range by DHT without an increase in plasma GH suggests that an increase in GH is not necessary for the pubertal growth spurt.

Oxandrolone
https://www.nature.com/articles/pr1988152
ncrease fina adult height by 4 cm at low doses
also decreases bone age at right dosages

A Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Comparison of L... [Horm Res Paediatr. 2010] - PubMed result

Max dosage 20 mg

Halotestin
(only do low doses) also called fluoxymesterone this can not be aromatized to estrogen

Long-term results of treatment with low-dose fluoxymesterone in constitutional delay of growth and puberty and in genetic short stature - PubMed

This prospective study was designed to assess growth response, side effects, other possible long-term effects, and final adult height in boys treated with the oral androgen, fluoxymesterone. From 1973 to 1984, eighty-two short boys (71 with constitutional delay of growth and puberty [CDGP] and...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"each patient had a 1.7- to 2.5-fold increase in linear growth velocity "
Max dosage 5 mg

Test cyp or e will work
Pct is optional

Any steroid will work


Ai. Aromasin(best one),

arimidex( 7.4 cm increase in adult height after 3 years of treatment,significantly slowed bone age)

Aromatase inhibitor shown to increase predicted adult height in GH deficient boys

Endocrine Today | BOSTON — In growth hormone deficient boys, use of an aromatase inhibitor was shown to delay epiphyseal fusion and increase predicted adult height, researcher Nelly Mauras, MD, division chief, department of pediatrics, division of endocrinology, Nemours Children’s Clinic...

www.healio.com

letrozole(combined with Test. 5.1 cm in adult height 1 year)

Novel treatment of short stature with aromatase inhibitors - PubMed

Estrogens have an essential role in the regulation of bone maturation and importantly in the closure of growth plates in both sexes. This prospective, randomized, placebo-controlled study was undertaken to evaluate whether suppression of estrogen synthesis in pubertal boys delays bone maturation...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Marked increase of final height by long-term aromatase inhibition in a boy with idiopathic short stature - PubMed

Growth hormone (GH) is the most frequently used treatment in children with idiopathic short stature (ISS). Aromatase inhibitor (AI) therapy is still in an experimental state, and both final height (FH) and long-term efficacy data in ISS have not been published. We present a 14.5-year-old boy...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"After a 5-year letrozole monotherapy, FH was 169 cm (SDS -1.57) showing a height difference between PAH and FH from 10.8 to 15 cm "
10-15 cm in adult height and his plates are still open allowing him to still grow more



Igf1
Igf1 des 20 -30 min localized effect
Igf1 lr3 20-30 hour half life (Saw crazy bloodwork on this one
Receptor grade igf1(Increlex) pharma grade igf1

Long-term treatment of growth hormone insensitivity syndrome with IGF-I. Results of the European Multicentre Study. The Working Group on Growth Hormone Insensitivity Syndromes - PubMed

A total of 33 patients (17 female, 16 male) with Laron syndrome (n = 31) or hGH-1 gene (n = 2, type IA deletion) from 22 centres in 12 countries were enrolled in a study conducted by Pharmacia & Upjohn, Stockholm, which was designed to test the efficacy, in terms of growth promotion and safety, …

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Doubled growth velocity when taking igf1 from 3-4.7 cm to 8-9.2 cm


Hgh
Generic hgh
Pharma grade hgh

Ghrh(increases hgh)
cjc no dac
cjc dac
sermorelin

Ghs (increases hgh)
Ghrp 2 and ghrp 6
mk677
hexeralin
impamorelin

Hormonal determinants of pubertal growth - PubMed

Pubertal growth results from increased sex steroid and growth hormone (GH) secretion. Estrogens appear to play an important role in the regulation of pubertal growth in both girls and boys. In girls, however, estrogens cannot be the only sex steroids responsible for pubertal growth, as exogenous...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"height velocity is related to levels of GH "

In healthy individuals, serum levels of IGF-1 peak at puberty (mean level: 391 ng/ml, between the ages of 14–15 years)
Insulin-like Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1): Demographic, Clinical and Laboratory Data in 120 Consecutive Adult Patients with Thalassaemia Major
supposedly our igf1 peaks when we are about to have a growth spurt somewhere around 14-15

Focus on increase gh to get growth spurt
Take cjc dac 1295 follow @Madness guide
3333.33-5000mcg subqinject before bed mon ,wed,thurs
Or 2500 mcg 2 times each week
and huperzine a
aromasin
12.5 mg ed or eod or 25 mg e2-3 day


mk677 25 mg ed before bed
ghrp 2 or 2 times a day morning and afternoon
cjc dac 1295 pick dosage
oxandrolone 2.5-5 mg ore even less per day most studies on kids are less than 1 mg
Or choose any other steroids
and the rest of your supplements


Up dosage of ai when taking test. A single shot won't do much. All steroids will shut down natural production
Aromasin by itself has shown to increase test by 60%
This is the closest you can get to stimulate a growth spurt

More info can be found on extra chromsone thread

 

[JustTrynaGrow]

These are most of the I know


Most steroids will work peferably take one that cant be aromatizeabl.If you do take one that can aromatize then you must take a ai
I ll list that one that are used.
standalone(oral dht) I'm not sure abouot this one
Very androgenic and not anabolic

Androgen-stimulated pubertal growth: the effects of testosterone and dihydrotestosterone on growth hormone and insulin-like growth factor-I in the treatment of short stature and delayed puberty - PubMed

The purpose of this study was to investigate the roles of androgenic and estrogenic mechanisms in the stimulation of structural growth and plasma GH in male puberty. To resolve these two possible mechanisms, we compared the effect of two androgens in the treatment of constitutional delay in...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Acceleration of HV into the peak pubertal range by DHT without an increase in plasma GH suggests that an increase in GH is not necessary for the pubertal growth spurt.

Oxandrolone
https://www.nature.com/articles/pr1988152
ncrease fina adult height by 4 cm at low doses
also decreases bone age at right dosages

A Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Comparison of L... [Horm Res Paediatr. 2010] - PubMed result

Max dosage 20 mg

Halotestin
(only do low doses) also called fluoxymesterone this can be aromatized to estrogen

Long-term results of treatment with low-dose fluoxymesterone in constitutional delay of growth and puberty and in genetic short stature - PubMed

This prospective study was designed to assess growth response, side effects, other possible long-term effects, and final adult height in boys treated with the oral androgen, fluoxymesterone. From 1973 to 1984, eighty-two short boys (71 with constitutional delay of growth and puberty [CDGP] and...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"each patient had a 1.7- to 2.5-fold increase in linear growth velocity "
Max dosage 5 mg

Test cyp or e will work
Pct is optional

Any steroid will work


Ai. Aromasin(best one),

arimidex( 7.4 cm increase in adult height after 3 years of treatment,significantly slowed bone age)

Aromatase inhibitor shown to increase predicted adult height in GH deficient boys

Endocrine Today | BOSTON — In growth hormone deficient boys, use of an aromatase inhibitor was shown to delay epiphyseal fusion and increase predicted adult height, researcher Nelly Mauras, MD, division chief, department of pediatrics, division of endocrinology, Nemours Children’s Clinic...

www.healio.com

letrozole(combined with Test. 5.1 cm in adult height 1 year)

Novel treatment of short stature with aromatase inhibitors - PubMed

Estrogens have an essential role in the regulation of bone maturation and importantly in the closure of growth plates in both sexes. This prospective, randomized, placebo-controlled study was undertaken to evaluate whether suppression of estrogen synthesis in pubertal boys delays bone maturation...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Marked increase of final height by long-term aromatase inhibition in a boy with idiopathic short stature - PubMed

Growth hormone (GH) is the most frequently used treatment in children with idiopathic short stature (ISS). Aromatase inhibitor (AI) therapy is still in an experimental state, and both final height (FH) and long-term efficacy data in ISS have not been published. We present a 14.5-year-old boy...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"After a 5-year letrozole monotherapy, FH was 169 cm (SDS -1.57) showing a height difference between PAH and FH from 10.8 to 15 cm "
10-15 cm in adult height and his plates are still open allowing him to still grow more



Igf1
Igf1 des 20 -30 min localized effect
Igf1 lr3 20-30 hour half life (Saw crazy bloodwork on this one
Receptor grade igf1(Increlex) pharma grade igf1

Long-term treatment of growth hormone insensitivity syndrome with IGF-I. Results of the European Multicentre Study. The Working Group on Growth Hormone Insensitivity Syndromes - PubMed

A total of 33 patients (17 female, 16 male) with Laron syndrome (n = 31) or hGH-1 gene (n = 2, type IA deletion) from 22 centres in 12 countries were enrolled in a study conducted by Pharmacia & Upjohn, Stockholm, which was designed to test the efficacy, in terms of growth promotion and safety, …

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Doubled growth velocity when taking igf1 from 3-4.7 cm to 8-9.2 cm


Hgh
Generic hgh
Pharma grade hgh

Ghrh(increases hgh)
cjc no dac
cjc dac
sermorelin

Ghs (increases hgh)
Ghrp 2 and ghrp 6
mk677
hexeralin
impamorelin

Hormonal determinants of pubertal growth - PubMed

Pubertal growth results from increased sex steroid and growth hormone (GH) secretion. Estrogens appear to play an important role in the regulation of pubertal growth in both girls and boys. In girls, however, estrogens cannot be the only sex steroids responsible for pubertal growth, as exogenous...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"height velocity is related to levels of GH "

In healthy individuals, serum levels of IGF-1 peak at puberty (mean level: 391 ng/ml, between the ages of 14–15 years)
Insulin-like Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1): Demographic, Clinical and Laboratory Data in 120 Consecutive Adult Patients with Thalassaemia Major
supposedly our igf1 peaks when we are about to have a growth spurt somewhere around 14-15

Focus on increase gh to get growth spurt
Take cjc dac 1295 follow @Madness guide
3333.33-5000mcg subqinject before bed mon ,wed,thurs
Or 2500 mcg 2 times each week
and huperzine a
aromasin
12.5 mg ed or eod or 25 mg e2-3 day


mk677 25 mg ed before bed
ghrp 2 or 2 times a day morning and afternoon
cjc dac 1295 pick dosage
oxandrolone 2.5-5 mg ore even less per day most studies on kids are less than 1 mg
Or choose any other steroids
and the rest of your supplements


Up dosage of ai when taking test. A single shot won't do much. All steroids will shut down natural production
Aromasin by itself has shown to increase test by 60%
This is the closest you can get to stimulate a growth spurt

More info can be found on extra chromsone thread

Much appriciated.

 

[BigBiceps]

We defo need more research done on Heightmaxxing because it's the hardest looksmax fr

Too late for you even if someone ever found out something revolutionary.

 

[Jecht]

You're either being sarcastic for some reason or have an IQ level akin to that of a chimpanzee.
I'm giving you the benifit of the doubt here so just don't respond please

I feel sorry for you, go see a doctor or you will regret it for the rest of your life.

 

[Madness]

These are most of the I know


Most steroids will work peferably take one that cant be aromatizeabl.If you do take one that can aromatize then you must take a ai
I ll list that one that are used.
standalone(oral dht) I'm not sure abouot this one
Very androgenic and not anabolic

Androgen-stimulated pubertal growth: the effects of testosterone and dihydrotestosterone on growth hormone and insulin-like growth factor-I in the treatment of short stature and delayed puberty - PubMed

The purpose of this study was to investigate the roles of androgenic and estrogenic mechanisms in the stimulation of structural growth and plasma GH in male puberty. To resolve these two possible mechanisms, we compared the effect of two androgens in the treatment of constitutional delay in...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Acceleration of HV into the peak pubertal range by DHT without an increase in plasma GH suggests that an increase in GH is not necessary for the pubertal growth spurt.

Oxandrolone
https://www.nature.com/articles/pr1988152
ncrease fina adult height by 4 cm at low doses
also decreases bone age at right dosages

A Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Comparison of L... [Horm Res Paediatr. 2010] - PubMed result

Max dosage 20 mg

Halotestin
(only do low doses) also called fluoxymesterone this can not be aromatized to estrogen

Long-term results of treatment with low-dose fluoxymesterone in constitutional delay of growth and puberty and in genetic short stature - PubMed

This prospective study was designed to assess growth response, side effects, other possible long-term effects, and final adult height in boys treated with the oral androgen, fluoxymesterone. From 1973 to 1984, eighty-two short boys (71 with constitutional delay of growth and puberty [CDGP] and...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"each patient had a 1.7- to 2.5-fold increase in linear growth velocity "
Max dosage 5 mg

Test cyp or e will work
Pct is optional

Any steroid will work


Ai. Aromasin(best one),

arimidex( 7.4 cm increase in adult height after 3 years of treatment,significantly slowed bone age)

Aromatase inhibitor shown to increase predicted adult height in GH deficient boys

Endocrine Today | BOSTON — In growth hormone deficient boys, use of an aromatase inhibitor was shown to delay epiphyseal fusion and increase predicted adult height, researcher Nelly Mauras, MD, division chief, department of pediatrics, division of endocrinology, Nemours Children’s Clinic...

www.healio.com

letrozole(combined with Test. 5.1 cm in adult height 1 year)

Novel treatment of short stature with aromatase inhibitors - PubMed

Estrogens have an essential role in the regulation of bone maturation and importantly in the closure of growth plates in both sexes. This prospective, randomized, placebo-controlled study was undertaken to evaluate whether suppression of estrogen synthesis in pubertal boys delays bone maturation...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Marked increase of final height by long-term aromatase inhibition in a boy with idiopathic short stature - PubMed

Growth hormone (GH) is the most frequently used treatment in children with idiopathic short stature (ISS). Aromatase inhibitor (AI) therapy is still in an experimental state, and both final height (FH) and long-term efficacy data in ISS have not been published. We present a 14.5-year-old boy...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"After a 5-year letrozole monotherapy, FH was 169 cm (SDS -1.57) showing a height difference between PAH and FH from 10.8 to 15 cm "
10-15 cm in adult height and his plates are still open allowing him to still grow more



Igf1
Igf1 des 20 -30 min localized effect
Igf1 lr3 20-30 hour half life (Saw crazy bloodwork on this one
Receptor grade igf1(Increlex) pharma grade igf1

Long-term treatment of growth hormone insensitivity syndrome with IGF-I. Results of the European Multicentre Study. The Working Group on Growth Hormone Insensitivity Syndromes - PubMed

A total of 33 patients (17 female, 16 male) with Laron syndrome (n = 31) or hGH-1 gene (n = 2, type IA deletion) from 22 centres in 12 countries were enrolled in a study conducted by Pharmacia & Upjohn, Stockholm, which was designed to test the efficacy, in terms of growth promotion and safety, …

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Doubled growth velocity when taking igf1 from 3-4.7 cm to 8-9.2 cm


Hgh
Generic hgh
Pharma grade hgh

Ghrh(increases hgh)
cjc no dac
cjc dac
sermorelin

Ghs (increases hgh)
Ghrp 2 and ghrp 6
mk677
hexeralin
impamorelin

Hormonal determinants of pubertal growth - PubMed

Pubertal growth results from increased sex steroid and growth hormone (GH) secretion. Estrogens appear to play an important role in the regulation of pubertal growth in both girls and boys. In girls, however, estrogens cannot be the only sex steroids responsible for pubertal growth, as exogenous...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"height velocity is related to levels of GH "

In healthy individuals, serum levels of IGF-1 peak at puberty (mean level: 391 ng/ml, between the ages of 14–15 years)
Insulin-like Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1): Demographic, Clinical and Laboratory Data in 120 Consecutive Adult Patients with Thalassaemia Major
supposedly our igf1 peaks when we are about to have a growth spurt somewhere around 14-15

Focus on increase gh to get growth spurt
Take cjc dac 1295 follow @Madness guide
3333.33-5000mcg subqinject before bed mon ,wed,thurs
Or 2500 mcg 2 times each week
and huperzine a
aromasin
12.5 mg ed or eod or 25 mg e2-3 day


mk677 25 mg ed before bed
ghrp 2 or 2 times a day morning and afternoon
cjc dac 1295 pick dosage
oxandrolone 2.5-5 mg ore even less per day most studies on kids are less than 1 mg
Or choose any other steroids
and the rest of your supplements


Up dosage of ai when taking test. A single shot won't do much. All steroids will shut down natural production
Aromasin by itself has shown to increase test by 60%
This is the closest you can get to stimulate a growth spurt

More info can be found on extra chromsone thread

Alot of the steroids wiill just kick start puberty.

 

[AspiringChad]

@JustTrynaGrow thots?

 

[Deleted member 2756]

Multivitamins

just eat liver, multivitamins are fucking retarded, if anything take zinc.

 

[Nosecel9000]

just eat liver, multivitamins are fucking retarded, if anything take zinc.

I am megadosing zinc AND multivitamin

 

[Deleted member 2756]

I am megadosing zinc AND multivitamin

you want an award for that sircopsalot?

 

[Deleted member 2095]

just eat liver, multivitamins are fucking retarded, if anything take zinc.

Liver contains vitamin A, the growth plate closure vitamin

 

[Deleted member 2756]

Liver contains vitamin A, the growth plate closure vitamin

sorry m'lord.

 

[JustTrynaGrow]

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@JustTrynaGrow thots?

Looks useable. I haven't looked into dosage enough to give you recommendations off the top of my head though. Also I'd either save my money and not get the IGF-1 or buy CJC dac instead. It's quite a bit better then CJC no dac. No dac = pretty similar to hexarelin and GHRP-2.
No reason to get GHRP-2, Hexarelin and CJC too. Just get GHRP-2 and CJC dac.
Again I haven't looked into dosage much but the amount you were going to get would only last a week or two if you were using a decent dosage.

 

[Deleted member 2095]

sorry m'lord.

Actually it may have been the liver of several animals only, not all, I don’t remember

 

[AspiringChad]

Looks useable. I haven't looked into dosage enough to give you reccomendations off the top of my head though. Also I'd either save my money and not get the IGF-1 or buy CJC dac instead. It's quite a bit better then CJC no dac. No dac = pretty similar to hexarelin and GHRP-2.
No reason to get GHRP-2, Hexarelin and CJC too. Just get GHRP-2 and CJC dac.
Again I haven't looked into dosage much but the amount you were going to get would only last a week or two if you were using a decent dosage.

Sadly it’s already been purchased at an excruciating price ngl

I considered to simply lower the dosages from the extra chromosome thread for it to last longer tbh

 

[JustTrynaGrow]

Sadly it’s already been purchased at an excruciating price ngl

I considered to simply lower the dosages from the extra chromosome thread for it to last longer tbh

Dw about it. No point in using tiny dosages to drag it out though. You just won't get any gains then.
What i'd do is see what amount gives you the highest price/performance ratio (i.e mk677 10mg is about 15/25% less effective then 20mg)
Currently I'd say the stack that madness used is the most likely to grow you although you could really lower the amount if CJC dac he used. 10-15mg week is quite high. I wouldn't go any lower then 5mg though

3333.33-5000mcg CJC-1295 DAC subQ inject before bed – Monday, Wednesday, Saturday (10,000-15,000mcg – 10-15mg total per week)
25mg MK-677 before bed every day
200mcg HUPERZINE A taken 3x per day (600mcg total)
With this protocol, you can reach an IGF-1 level close to (or exceed) 700ng/mL.
Which is absurdly high, and should give some height and decent muscle gains.

Just make sure you use Aromasin with it. And k2

 

[AspiringChad]

Dw about it. No point in using tiny dosages to drag it out though. You just won't get any gains then.
What i'd do is see what amount gives you the highest price/performance ratio (i.e mk677 10mg is about 15/25% less effective then 20mg)
Currently I'd say the stack that madness used is the most likely to grow you although you could really lower the amount if CJC dac he used. 10-15mg week is quite high. I wouldn't go any lower then 5mg though

3333.33-5000mcg CJC-1295 DAC subQ inject before bed – Monday, Wednesday, Saturday (10,000-15,000mcg – 10-15mg total per week)
25mg MK-677 before bed every day
200mcg HUPERZINE A taken 3x per day (600mcg total)
With this protocol, you can reach an IGF-1 level close to (or exceed) 700ng/mL.
Which is absurdly high, and should give some height and decent muscle gains.

Just make sure you use Aromasin with it. And k2

Well fuck I only have aromasin

I’ll just blow through what I have and buy more shit later

 

[Newguyaround]

Well fuck I only have aromasin

I’ll just blow through what I have and buy more shit later

How old are you? take aromasin as soon as possible

 

[AspiringChad]

How old are you? take aromasin as soon as possible

Jfl Im 18

I grew a very small amount recently

 

[MrGlutton]

Dw about it. No point in using tiny dosages to drag it out though. You just won't get any gains then.
What i'd do is see what amount gives you the highest price/performance ratio (i.e mk677 10mg is about 15/25% less effective then 20mg)
Currently I'd say the stack that madness used is the most likely to grow you although you could really lower the amount if CJC dac he used. 10-15mg week is quite high. I wouldn't go any lower then 5mg though

3333.33-5000mcg CJC-1295 DAC subQ inject before bed – Monday, Wednesday, Saturday (10,000-15,000mcg – 10-15mg total per week)
25mg MK-677 before bed every day
200mcg HUPERZINE A taken 3x per day (600mcg total)
With this protocol, you can reach an IGF-1 level close to (or exceed) 700ng/mL.
Which is absurdly high, and should give some height and decent muscle gains.

Just make sure you use Aromasin with it. And k2

lose weight before taking mk677

Jfl Im 18

I grew a very small amount recently

get on aromasin asap brother

 

[KKK]

These are most of the I know


Most steroids will work peferably take one that cant be aromatizeabl.If you do take one that can aromatize then you must take a ai
I ll list that one that are used.
standalone(oral dht) I'm not sure abouot this one
Very androgenic and not anabolic

Androgen-stimulated pubertal growth: the effects of testosterone and dihydrotestosterone on growth hormone and insulin-like growth factor-I in the treatment of short stature and delayed puberty - PubMed

The purpose of this study was to investigate the roles of androgenic and estrogenic mechanisms in the stimulation of structural growth and plasma GH in male puberty. To resolve these two possible mechanisms, we compared the effect of two androgens in the treatment of constitutional delay in...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Acceleration of HV into the peak pubertal range by DHT without an increase in plasma GH suggests that an increase in GH is not necessary for the pubertal growth spurt.

Oxandrolone
https://www.nature.com/articles/pr1988152
ncrease fina adult height by 4 cm at low doses
also decreases bone age at right dosages

A Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Comparison of L... [Horm Res Paediatr. 2010] - PubMed result

Max dosage 20 mg

Halotestin
(only do low doses) also called fluoxymesterone this can not be aromatized to estrogen

Long-term results of treatment with low-dose fluoxymesterone in constitutional delay of growth and puberty and in genetic short stature - PubMed

This prospective study was designed to assess growth response, side effects, other possible long-term effects, and final adult height in boys treated with the oral androgen, fluoxymesterone. From 1973 to 1984, eighty-two short boys (71 with constitutional delay of growth and puberty [CDGP] and...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"each patient had a 1.7- to 2.5-fold increase in linear growth velocity "
Max dosage 5 mg

Test cyp or e will work
Pct is optional

Any steroid will work


Ai. Aromasin(best one),

arimidex( 7.4 cm increase in adult height after 3 years of treatment,significantly slowed bone age)

Aromatase inhibitor shown to increase predicted adult height in GH deficient boys

Endocrine Today | BOSTON — In growth hormone deficient boys, use of an aromatase inhibitor was shown to delay epiphyseal fusion and increase predicted adult height, researcher Nelly Mauras, MD, division chief, department of pediatrics, division of endocrinology, Nemours Children’s Clinic...

www.healio.com

letrozole(combined with Test. 5.1 cm in adult height 1 year)

Novel treatment of short stature with aromatase inhibitors - PubMed

Estrogens have an essential role in the regulation of bone maturation and importantly in the closure of growth plates in both sexes. This prospective, randomized, placebo-controlled study was undertaken to evaluate whether suppression of estrogen synthesis in pubertal boys delays bone maturation...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Marked increase of final height by long-term aromatase inhibition in a boy with idiopathic short stature - PubMed

Growth hormone (GH) is the most frequently used treatment in children with idiopathic short stature (ISS). Aromatase inhibitor (AI) therapy is still in an experimental state, and both final height (FH) and long-term efficacy data in ISS have not been published. We present a 14.5-year-old boy...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"After a 5-year letrozole monotherapy, FH was 169 cm (SDS -1.57) showing a height difference between PAH and FH from 10.8 to 15 cm "
10-15 cm in adult height and his plates are still open allowing him to still grow more



Igf1
Igf1 des 20 -30 min localized effect
Igf1 lr3 20-30 hour half life (Saw crazy bloodwork on this one
Receptor grade igf1(Increlex) pharma grade igf1

Long-term treatment of growth hormone insensitivity syndrome with IGF-I. Results of the European Multicentre Study. The Working Group on Growth Hormone Insensitivity Syndromes - PubMed

A total of 33 patients (17 female, 16 male) with Laron syndrome (n = 31) or hGH-1 gene (n = 2, type IA deletion) from 22 centres in 12 countries were enrolled in a study conducted by Pharmacia & Upjohn, Stockholm, which was designed to test the efficacy, in terms of growth promotion and safety, …

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Doubled growth velocity when taking igf1 from 3-4.7 cm to 8-9.2 cm


Hgh
Generic hgh
Pharma grade hgh

Ghrh(increases hgh)
cjc no dac
cjc dac
sermorelin

Ghs (increases hgh)
Ghrp 2 and ghrp 6
mk677
hexeralin
impamorelin

Hormonal determinants of pubertal growth - PubMed

Pubertal growth results from increased sex steroid and growth hormone (GH) secretion. Estrogens appear to play an important role in the regulation of pubertal growth in both girls and boys. In girls, however, estrogens cannot be the only sex steroids responsible for pubertal growth, as exogenous...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"height velocity is related to levels of GH "

In healthy individuals, serum levels of IGF-1 peak at puberty (mean level: 391 ng/ml, between the ages of 14–15 years)
Insulin-like Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1): Demographic, Clinical and Laboratory Data in 120 Consecutive Adult Patients with Thalassaemia Major
supposedly our igf1 peaks when we are about to have a growth spurt somewhere around 14-15

Focus on increase gh to get growth spurt
Take cjc dac 1295 follow @Madness guide
3333.33-5000mcg subqinject before bed mon ,wed,thurs
Or 2500 mcg 2 times each week
and huperzine a
aromasin
12.5 mg ed or eod or 25 mg e2-3 day


mk677 25 mg ed before bed
ghrp 2 or 2 times a day morning and afternoon
cjc dac 1295 pick dosage
oxandrolone 2.5-5 mg ore even less per day most studies on kids are less than 1 mg
Or choose any other steroids
and the rest of your supplements


Up dosage of ai when taking test. A single shot won't do much. All steroids will shut down natural production
Aromasin by itself has shown to increase test by 60%
This is the closest you can get to stimulate a growth spurt

More info can be found on extra chromsone thread

Can aromasin be used both as an ai and testosterone increaser.

Dw about it. No point in using tiny dosages to drag it out though. You just won't get any gains then.
What i'd do is see what amount gives you the highest price/performance ratio (i.e mk677 10mg is about 15/25% less effective then 20mg)
Currently I'd say the stack that madness used is the most likely to grow you although you could really lower the amount if CJC dac he used. 10-15mg week is quite high. I wouldn't go any lower then 5mg though

3333.33-5000mcg CJC-1295 DAC subQ inject before bed – Monday, Wednesday, Saturday (10,000-15,000mcg – 10-15mg total per week)
25mg MK-677 before bed every day
200mcg HUPERZINE A taken 3x per day (600mcg total)
With this protocol, you can reach an IGF-1 level close to (or exceed) 700ng/mL.
Which is absurdly high, and should give some height and decent muscle gains.

Just make sure you use Aromasin with it. And k2

Why can't we take igf-1 directly.(can we if we have it)

 

[Tom2004]

These are most of the I know


Most steroids will work peferably take one that cant be aromatizeabl.If you do take one that can aromatize then you must take a ai
I ll list that one that are used.
standalone(oral dht) I'm not sure abouot this one
Very androgenic and not anabolic

Androgen-stimulated pubertal growth: the effects of testosterone and dihydrotestosterone on growth hormone and insulin-like growth factor-I in the treatment of short stature and delayed puberty - PubMed

The purpose of this study was to investigate the roles of androgenic and estrogenic mechanisms in the stimulation of structural growth and plasma GH in male puberty. To resolve these two possible mechanisms, we compared the effect of two androgens in the treatment of constitutional delay in...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Acceleration of HV into the peak pubertal range by DHT without an increase in plasma GH suggests that an increase in GH is not necessary for the pubertal growth spurt.

Oxandrolone
https://www.nature.com/articles/pr1988152
ncrease fina adult height by 4 cm at low doses
also decreases bone age at right dosages

A Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Comparison of L... [Horm Res Paediatr. 2010] - PubMed result

Max dosage 20 mg

Halotestin
(only do low doses) also called fluoxymesterone this can not be aromatized to estrogen

Long-term results of treatment with low-dose fluoxymesterone in constitutional delay of growth and puberty and in genetic short stature - PubMed

This prospective study was designed to assess growth response, side effects, other possible long-term effects, and final adult height in boys treated with the oral androgen, fluoxymesterone. From 1973 to 1984, eighty-two short boys (71 with constitutional delay of growth and puberty [CDGP] and...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"each patient had a 1.7- to 2.5-fold increase in linear growth velocity "
Max dosage 5 mg

Test cyp or e will work
Pct is optional

Any steroid will work


Ai. Aromasin(best one),

arimidex( 7.4 cm increase in adult height after 3 years of treatment,significantly slowed bone age)

Aromatase inhibitor shown to increase predicted adult height in GH deficient boys

Endocrine Today | BOSTON — In growth hormone deficient boys, use of an aromatase inhibitor was shown to delay epiphyseal fusion and increase predicted adult height, researcher Nelly Mauras, MD, division chief, department of pediatrics, division of endocrinology, Nemours Children’s Clinic...

www.healio.com

letrozole(combined with Test. 5.1 cm in adult height 1 year)

Novel treatment of short stature with aromatase inhibitors - PubMed

Estrogens have an essential role in the regulation of bone maturation and importantly in the closure of growth plates in both sexes. This prospective, randomized, placebo-controlled study was undertaken to evaluate whether suppression of estrogen synthesis in pubertal boys delays bone maturation...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Marked increase of final height by long-term aromatase inhibition in a boy with idiopathic short stature - PubMed

Growth hormone (GH) is the most frequently used treatment in children with idiopathic short stature (ISS). Aromatase inhibitor (AI) therapy is still in an experimental state, and both final height (FH) and long-term efficacy data in ISS have not been published. We present a 14.5-year-old boy...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"After a 5-year letrozole monotherapy, FH was 169 cm (SDS -1.57) showing a height difference between PAH and FH from 10.8 to 15 cm "
10-15 cm in adult height and his plates are still open allowing him to still grow more



Igf1
Igf1 des 20 -30 min localized effect
Igf1 lr3 20-30 hour half life (Saw crazy bloodwork on this one
Receptor grade igf1(Increlex) pharma grade igf1

Long-term treatment of growth hormone insensitivity syndrome with IGF-I. Results of the European Multicentre Study. The Working Group on Growth Hormone Insensitivity Syndromes - PubMed

A total of 33 patients (17 female, 16 male) with Laron syndrome (n = 31) or hGH-1 gene (n = 2, type IA deletion) from 22 centres in 12 countries were enrolled in a study conducted by Pharmacia & Upjohn, Stockholm, which was designed to test the efficacy, in terms of growth promotion and safety, …

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Doubled growth velocity when taking igf1 from 3-4.7 cm to 8-9.2 cm


Hgh
Generic hgh
Pharma grade hgh

Ghrh(increases hgh)
cjc no dac
cjc dac
sermorelin

Ghs (increases hgh)
Ghrp 2 and ghrp 6
mk677
hexeralin
impamorelin

Hormonal determinants of pubertal growth - PubMed

Pubertal growth results from increased sex steroid and growth hormone (GH) secretion. Estrogens appear to play an important role in the regulation of pubertal growth in both girls and boys. In girls, however, estrogens cannot be the only sex steroids responsible for pubertal growth, as exogenous...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"height velocity is related to levels of GH "

In healthy individuals, serum levels of IGF-1 peak at puberty (mean level: 391 ng/ml, between the ages of 14–15 years)
Insulin-like Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1): Demographic, Clinical and Laboratory Data in 120 Consecutive Adult Patients with Thalassaemia Major
supposedly our igf1 peaks when we are about to have a growth spurt somewhere around 14-15

Focus on increase gh to get growth spurt
Take cjc dac 1295 follow @Madness guide
3333.33-5000mcg subqinject before bed mon ,wed,thurs
Or 2500 mcg 2 times each week
and huperzine a
aromasin
12.5 mg ed or eod or 25 mg e2-3 day


mk677 25 mg ed before bed
ghrp 2 or 2 times a day morning and afternoon
cjc dac 1295 pick dosage
oxandrolone 2.5-5 mg ore even less per day most studies on kids are less than 1 mg
Or choose any other steroids
and the rest of your supplements


Up dosage of ai when taking test. A single shot won't do much. All steroids will shut down natural production
Aromasin by itself has shown to increase test by 60%
This is the closest you can get to stimulate a growth spurt

More info can be found on extra chromsone thread

I'm on a tight budget so would it be worth it to do MK677, IGF-1 LR3 and Aromasin

 

[JustTrynaGrow]

I'm on a tight budget so would it be worth it to do MK677, IGF-1 LR3 and Aromasin

Probably not. As far as I know you need elevated levels of HGH and IGF-1.(I'm assuming LR3 increases hgh levels only slightly if at all) also LR3 is expensive no?
Last thing I'll add is nothing is guaranteed. We know very little about this so I can't promise you'll grow at all

 

[Newguyaround]

Can aromasin be used both as an ai and testosterone increaser.

Why can't we take igf-1 directly.(can we if we have it)

You need both igf1 and gh . Aromasin will work as test boost because it’s the only Androgenic ai.

 

[CarlSagan96]

This is more then likely not going to work but hell anything is worth a shot eh? Chad or death

Basically from my limited knowlage a surge of testosterone is what kickstarts a growth spurt in a tween/teen boy so I'm planning to replicate this. 10 days prior to taking the testosterone I will have started my cycle which looks like this:

CJC no dac
MK677
Huperzine A
Creatine
L-Dopa
GABA
Aromasin
Glucosamine
Chondroitin
Melatonin
Flurbiprofen
k2
Multivitamins
DHT gel
(Final dosages yet to be decided)

I'm hoping some of you here can tell me the following:
1. An in depth explanation as why there is no way in the fuck this will work.
2. Any other horomones that surge with testosterone and induce the growth spurt
3. Confirm that a single shot of testosterone (or more likely prohoromones) is not enough to shut down my testosterone and I won't need PCT.

Nobody here knows whether it will work or not

This is more then likely not going to work but hell anything is worth a shot eh? Chad or death

Basically from my limited knowlage a surge of testosterone is what kickstarts a growth spurt in a tween/teen boy so I'm planning to replicate this. 10 days prior to taking the testosterone I will have started my cycle which looks like this:

CJC no dac
MK677
Huperzine A
Creatine
L-Dopa
GABA
Aromasin
Glucosamine
Chondroitin
Melatonin
Flurbiprofen
k2
Multivitamins
DHT gel
(Final dosages yet to be decided)

I'm hoping some of you here can tell me the following:
1. An in depth explanation as why there is no way in the fuck this will work.
2. Any other horomones that surge with testosterone and induce the growth spurt
3. Confirm that a single shot of testosterone (or more likely prohoromones) is not enough to shut down my testosterone and I won't need PCT.

And I see you looked at the link I sent you?

 

[Newguyaround]

Probably not. As far as I know you need elevated levels of HGH and IGF-1.(I'm assuming LR3 increases hgh levels only slightly if at all) also LR3 is expensive no?
Last thing I'll add is nothing is guaranteed. We know very little about this so I can't promise you'll grow at all

Igf1 lr3 will reduce gh lvl igf1 sends negative feedback loop. Igf1 isn’t expensive 40 mg is under 4500 usd.dosages 30mcg-70 mcg. Receptor grade is 45k+ for 40 mg

 

[CarlSagan96]

This is dumb, the only thing that is needed for growth is a growth plate and hgh. If you dont have a growth plate the only option is LL surgery.
But if you have one than just take letrozole and hgh.

HGH alone is not the best way to increase height

 

[JustTrynaGrow]

Igf1 isn’t expensive 40 mg is under 4500 usd.

Wow bro I never realised it was so cheap

 

[CarlSagan96]

Wow bro I never realised it was so cheap

Lol I thought you said you couldn't even afford cjc1295?

 

[Nosecel9000]

View attachment 105414
@JustTrynaGrow thots?

Where did you buy it?

HGH alone is not the best way to increase height

What thrn?

 

[AspiringChad]

Where did you buy it?

What thrn?

Purerawz

 

[Nosecel9000]

Purerawz

Why is this so cheap??? 29$ for 1000mg
If i take 12.5 mg every other day itll be 160 days

Exemestane (Powder. 1000mg) - PureRawz

Exemestane Powder PureRawz Exemestane research Powder is an indirect sympathomimetic intended for research and educational purposes. It’s CAS number is 107868-30-4 with a Molar Mass of 296.410 g·mol−1. It’s Chemical Formula is C20H24O2 and the IUPAC name for this product is...

purerawz.co

 

[Newguyaround]

Why is this so cheap??? 29$ for 1000mg
If i take 12.5 mg every other day itll be 160 days

Exemestane (Powder. 1000mg) - PureRawz

Exemestane Powder PureRawz Exemestane research Powder is an indirect sympathomimetic intended for research and educational purposes. It’s CAS number is 107868-30-4 with a Molar Mass of 296.410 g·mol−1. It’s Chemical Formula is C20H24O2 and the IUPAC name for this product is...

purerawz.co

Buy it from Pfizer you can find it on online pharmacy.

 

[Nosecel9000]

Buy it from Pfizer you can find it on online pharmacy.

Okay

 

[Deleted member 2227]

@Newguyaround is a massive High IQ mogger

 

[BigBoy]

Imagine getting heightmogged by Titbot, brutal.

 

[JustTrynaGrow]

@Newguyaround is a massive High IQ mogger

it's a blessing and a curse really.
you'll be happier if you're low iq.

 

[Incognegro]

Nigga about to OD