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Autism deducts 1.25 points out of 10
And so do most disorders.
And that's High Functioning Autism, before the cope comes in. No, the fact High functioning autists have 108 iq average instead of 100 is not nearly enough to make up for it. I would not even see it as a fair trade if Autism gave you 140 iq on average.
No, it's not better to be neurodivergent in literally any conceivable way over neurotypical.
No. Masking does NOT WORK.


Long post so TL;DR at the bottom for the low IQcels

One of the most unbelievably overrated variables on this forum is
- IQ
- Sociopathy/Psychopathy
And one of the most underrated/under discussed variables is whether you have autism or not


On the topic of Autism:

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There was this study that completely blackpilled me on autism and neurodivergency. It was a study wanting to see how easy it was for neurotypical [normal people] to recognize whether or not someone had Autism. The results showed that neurotypical people were fucking masters at recognizing whether or not someone had autism, even people barely on the spectrum. The thing was, they did not assign them as them having "autism" but instead they assigned them as "weird" or "creepy" or "awkward" or "off."
If you truly are diagnosed with autism reading this, you might ask yourself "why did the other kids ignore me in nursery/primary school, I was not noticably ugly or weird." It's because you had autism. It's because you had a mental disorder that, without you being able to even recognize it's impact, basically fucked you're childhood social life and social development completely. [
Which is why so many people on this site show clear signs of emotional stunting.]
And that is why, Autism deducts 1.25 points out of 10.
If you are 6/10 HTN with autism, you will have the same experience as a 4.75/10 H-LTN neurotypical in the long run, when socializing.
If you are 5/10 MTN with autism, you will have the same experience as a 3.75/10 LTN/Subhuman neurotypical in the long run, when socializing.
Yes, a 5/10 with Autism will get treated like a borderline subhuman, which is to say, he will be completely ignored when trying to making friends.

The neurotypical person will not know why they isolate you. If they are asked by others they might make up reasons in their mind then genuinely believe it.
["he's weird, he's creepy, he's awkward" - same excuses girls make when asked why they bullied an ugly kid]
And no, masking does not work. There is legitimately no way to nullify your autism, only thing you can do is lessen it's impact by having NPC voicelines at the ready to fill in the white noise, and having responses to NPC questions like "what music do you listen to" ready.
"I mask and nobody knows" they might not KNOW you have autism but they can TELL you're different. And even if it did completely work, YEARS OF MASKING HAS BEEN PROVEN TO CAUSE PSYCHOTIC BREAKDOWNS IN NEURODIVERGENT PEOPLE [autists, psychopaths, bpd/HPD havers, depressives, etc] so good luck when you kill your wife and go to jail in 15 years all because of muh masking.
For the IQ copers, which I address later on, is all this worth it, all this social isolation and stress from not understanding whether or not something is weird or normal societally, all for a bit of extra IQ?


On the topic of ASPD:
“Though he [the psychopath] may possess a good mind, he does not profit from experience nor does he show the ability to learn from his mistakes.”
-- The Mask of Sanity, Hervey Cleckley (5th ed., 1976)

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I am going to rip the band-aid off from the start: Anti-Social Personality Disorder is a BAD disorder to have - morals aside.
If you have read literally any literature on the disorder, this would be the same as me telling you "the sky is blue."
When you read case studies of people with the disorder, you wonder something, why do all these people make the stupidest mistakes, and WHY are ALL of them alcoholic losers? Yes, people with ASPD are much stupider compared to the average person [85–95 iq average], and this is not because the studies are on prison populations with higher percentages of non whites. There is a reason the median IQ for serial killers in the United States is 86, and that is because ASPD havers are overwhelmingly over represented in serial killing [the same way Jews are over represented in finance--] due to their nature, and because most of them are genuinely stupid, it nukes the median IQ of serial killers.
Most Psychopaths are not Psychopaths because some switch in their brain is flipped off, they are Psychopaths because their brain is legitimately too Stupid to comprehend basic human abilities like sympathy.
The best way to think of ASPD is like this: it is literally Delayed Delinquency. ASPD havers are just Delinquents who just could never grow out of it.

[which is why psychiatrists wait till age 18 before they diagnose anyone with ASPD btw]


What about muh 150-170 IQ Psychopathic CEO with 17.22 billion dollar Net worth?!?!
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"Okay okay, you're right about the average ASPD haver on the street, but wouldn't it be friggin' cool to be a Psychopathic CEO, in the front you're a 55 year old family man with your family dog, perfect house and car, but behind closed doors you're selling Agent Orange to the US military and selling baby formula with way too little nutrients to underdeveloped countries in Africa? With too much money and no care in the world??"
NO
I wouldn't want to be that. I would rather be a neurotypical normie who will experience genuine emotions with other humans and not be at constant risk of having a psychotic break :lul: I would rather be able to feel something when I hold my kids. The only people who would idolise this are normies who read Normie-Grift-Social-SLOP like the 48 laws of power or incels who don't have any human interaction in their lives anyways so any life [such as this one] is a step up.

What about muh 145 IQ Sociopathic Slayer
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"Okay bro but imagine you're a young, tall, 23" bideltoid sociopathic slayer, you're a total chick magnet bro! And you don't take shit from anyone, and you're low inhib brooo!!! Wouldn't you want that?!"
NO
I would rather be a NEUROTYPICAL 145iq tall 23" Bideltoid slayer. That "Sociopathic" part is a DOWNGRADE. Sociopaths are borderline RETARDED. READ THE FUCKING LITERATURE. I'M SICK OF THIS RETARDED DARK TRIAD ASPD LARP BULLSHIT.
I would rather be a neurotypical slayer who has a great life rather than a Sociopathic slayer who throws a beer bottle through a bus window because of low inhib antisocial urges and gets a criminal record.


And a ASPD-haver over 125 IQ is as rare as Indian chadlite.
and I view having low/no empathy/sympathy as a borderline subhuman trait, genetics wise


On the Topic of IQ

and why it barely matters.
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Before I continue, I must admit 3 things.
Higher IQ does correlate with higher salary.
Higher IQ does correlate with higher happiness.
Higher IQ does correlate with higher empathy.
But it is not even top 10 most important variables when being born. It literally only matters if you're either top 0.1% or bottom 0.1%,
and I will DEBOOONK the cope that it is even a top 5 most important variable

IQ is simply less important than
- Your looks
- Your height
- Your race
- Your natural health
- Your emotional intelligence

- The country you were born in
- The social/wealth class you're born into
- Parental situation
- Whether or not your parents even love you from birth
- If you're born with a physical disorder
- If you're born with a mental disorder
- The personality your genetics decide for you
- Whether or not you have Autism
- Arguably, even your voice is more important

Literally 12 variables that are more important, and you could maybe argue 2 max are less important.
It is the most overrated variable, the way people talk about it on here, you'd think people with 145+ iq can move objects with their mind.
Unless you're bottom 5% or top 0.1% IQ then your fucking VOICE will make more of a difference than your IQ. People here act like having under 100 IQ is death tier super retard when 50.55% of the UK's population is under that, and like 75-80% of the world's population is under that.

[AND I HAVE NEVER TAKEN AN IQ TEST BEFORE I GET ACCUSED OF COPING]

Higher IQ does correlate with higher salary.
Higher IQ does correlate with higher happiness.
Higher IQ does correlate with Higher empathy.
But so does all the other variables I mentioned, and they make more of an impact.
And no, you are not a misunderstood 170 IQ genius rotting on a forum of people stupider than you, with your genius just waiting to shine upon all of us once you decide to try. You will end up a 40 yr old internet rotter if you keep thinking like this.

TL;DR

Being Autistic is as bad as getting deducted 1.25 face points/10 if you're neurotypical.

Having ASPD/Psychopathy/Sociopathy is always worse than being neurotypical

IQ is not even a top 10 most important variable considering base stats, and is COPE for people who have NOTHING ELSE.

Neurotypiciality will always, and has never not been, LAW.

Neurotypical adults watched videos of people, some autistic and some nonautistic, without being told who was autistic.
They were more likely to dislike the autistic people, often citing reasons like “perceived awkwardness” and “lack of empathy.”
Neurotypical (TD) raters tend to rate autistic adults less favorably on traits like “awkwardness,” “attractiveness,” “dominance,” etc., even when the TD raters don’t know the person is autistic.
serial killer iq median source
INB4 "Sociopathy/Psychopathy are not medically recognized terms anymore" I do not care.
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It was a joke gng i read every molecule lol
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You commented that 3 minutes after I posted
I'm sure you read at 500wpm in your mind bro, I fucking hate this forum
 
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Impeccable thread, should've waited a few more hours to post when everyone is active 😢
And no, you are not a misunderstood 170 IQ genius rotting on a forum of people stupider than you, with your genius just waiting to shine upon all of us once you decide to try. You will end up a 40 yr old internet rotter if you keep thinking like this.
very true :feelsokman:

It's kinda funny that the only people who are overly obsessed with psychopaths and claim to be sociopaths are the most normal people.

The only thing that would ever compel a person to try to be a "badass psychopath" is low iq
"Okay okay, you're right about the average ASPD haver on the street, but wouldn't it be friggin' cool to be a Psychopathic CEO, in the front you're a 55 year old family man with your family dog, perfect house and car, but behind closed doors you're selling Agent Orange to the US military and selling baby formula with way too little nutrients to underdeveloped countries in Africa? With too much money and no care in the world??"
It's the dumbest, lowest iq rotters that come up with situations like these in their heads, it's just a complete lack of understanding for how anything works, and they base reality off of what it's like in Dexter and Breaking Bad :lul:

Everyone just wants to be different.
 
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Impeccable thread, should've waited a few more hours to post when everyone is active 😢
If you can be a G and bump it when people are active, that'd be great
It's kinda funny that the only people who are overly obsessed with psychopaths and claim to be sociopaths are the most normal people.
It's usually autistic people. They [WE] notice how cucked their [OUR] disordered way of thinking is, and how bad of a result in life it's lead them, so they want to atleast get something out of it, and the idea of being this dark triad intelligent sociopath is the perfect answer
 
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NT IS law but you still need to be atleast mid LTN

I'm subhuman and being NT doesn't save me 💔

Water I know but still
 
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read every molecule:bigbrain: reminds me of when i was a kid and idolised being cold psychopath

i remember when you replied to my OT thread and called me retarded so i decided to check your latest post out:feelswhere:
 
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Autism deducts 1.25 points out of 10
And so do most disorders.
And that's High Functioning Autism, before the cope comes in. No, the fact High functioning autists have 108 iq average instead of 100 is not nearly enough to make up for it. I would not even see it as a fair trade if Autism gave you 140 iq on average.
No, it's not better to be neurodivergent in literally any conceivable way over neurotypical.
No. Masking does NOT WORK.


Long post so TL;DR at the bottom for the low IQcels

One of the most unbelievably overrated variables on this forum is
- IQ
- Sociopathy/Psychopathy
And one of the most underrated/under discussed variables is whether you have autism or not


On the topic of Autism:

View attachment 4201100
There was this study that completely blackpilled me on autism and neurodivergency. It was a study wanting to see how easy it was for neurotypical [normal people] to recognize whether or not someone had Autism. The results showed that neurotypical people were fucking masters at recognizing whether or not someone had autism, even people barely on the spectrum. The thing was, they did not assign them as them having "autism" but instead they assigned them as "weird" or "creepy" or "awkward" or "off."
If you truly are diagnosed with autism reading this, you might ask yourself "why did the other kids ignore me in nursery/primary school, I was not noticably ugly or weird." It's because you had autism. It's because you had a mental disorder that, without you being able to even recognize it's impact, basically fucked you're childhood social life and social development completely. [
Which is why so many people on this site show clear signs of emotional stunting.]
And that is why, Autism deducts 1.25 points out of 10.
If you are 6/10 HTN with autism, you will have the same experience as a 4.75/10 H-LTN neurotypical in the long run, when socializing.
If you are 5/10 MTN with autism, you will have the same experience as a 3.75/10 LTN/Subhuman neurotypical in the long run, when socializing.
Yes, a 5/10 with Autism will get treated like a borderline subhuman, which is to say, he will be completely ignored when trying to making friends.

The neurotypical person will not know why they isolate you. If they are asked by others they might make up reasons in their mind then genuinely believe it.
["he's weird, he's creepy, he's awkward" - same excuses girls make when asked why they bullied an ugly kid]
And no, masking does not work. There is legitimately no way to nullify your autism, only thing you can do is lessen it's impact by having NPC voicelines at the ready to fill in the white noise, and having responses to NPC questions like "what music do you listen to" ready.
"I mask and nobody knows" they might not KNOW you have autism but they can TELL you're different. And even if it did completely work, YEARS OF MASKING HAS BEEN PROVEN TO CAUSE PSYCHOTIC BREAKDOWNS IN NEURODIVERGENT PEOPLE [autists, psychopaths, bpd/HPD havers, depressives, etc] so good luck when you kill your wife and go to jail in 15 years all because of muh masking.
For the IQ copers, which I address later on, is all this worth it, all this social isolation and stress from not understanding whether or not something is weird or normal societally, all for a bit of extra IQ?


On the topic of ASPD:
“Though he [the psychopath] may possess a good mind, he does not profit from experience nor does he show the ability to learn from his mistakes.”
-- The Mask of Sanity, Hervey Cleckley (5th ed., 1976)

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I am going to rip the band-aid off from the start: Anti-Social Personality Disorder is a BAD disorder to have - morals aside.
If you have read literally any literature on the disorder, this would be the same as me telling you "the sky is blue."
When you read case studies of people with the disorder, you wonder something, why do all these people make the stupidest mistakes, and WHY are ALL of them alcoholic losers? Yes, people with ASPD are much stupider compared to the average person [85–95 iq average], and this is not because the studies are on prison populations with higher percentages of non whites. There is a reason the median IQ for serial killers in the United States is 86, and that is because ASPD havers are overwhelming over represented in serial killing [the same way Jews are over represented in finance--] due to their nature, and because most of them are genuinely stupid, it nukes the median IQ of serial killers.
Most Psychopaths are not Psychopaths because some switch in their brain is flipped off, they are Psychopaths because their brain is legitimately too Stupid to comprehend basic human abilities like sympathy.
The best way to think of ASPD is like this: it is literally Delayed Delinquency. ASPD havers are just Delinquents who just could never grow out of it.

[which is why psychiatrists wait till age 18 before they diagnose anyone with ASPD btw]


What about muh 150-170 IQ Psychopathic CEO with 17.22 billion dollar Net worth?!?!
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"Okay okay, you're right about the average ASPD haver on the street, but wouldn't it be friggin' cool to be a Psychopathic CEO, in the front you're a 55 year old family man with your family dog, perfect house and car, but behind closed doors you're selling Agent Orange to the US military and selling baby formula with way too little nutrients to underdeveloped countries in Africa? With too much money and no care in the world??"
NO
I wouldn't want to be that. I would rather be a neurotypical normie who will experience genuine emotions with other humans and not be at constant risk of having a psychotic break :lul: I would rather be able to feel something when I hold my kids. The only people who would idolise this are normies who read Normie-Grift-Social-SLOP like the 48 laws of power or incels who don't have any human interaction in their lives anyways so any life [such as this one] is a step up.

What about muh 145 IQ Sociopathic Slayer
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"Okay bro but imagine you're a young, tall, 23" bideltoid sociopathic slayer, you're a total chick magnet bro! And you don't take shit from anyone, and you're low inhib brooo!!! Wouldn't you want that?!"
NO
I would rather be a NEUROTYPICAL 145iq tall 23" Bideltoid slayer. That "Sociopathic" part is a DOWNGRADE. Sociopaths are borderline RETARDED. READ THE FUCKING LITERATURE. I'M SICK OF THIS RETARDED DARK TRIAD ASPD LARP BULLSHIT.
I would rather be a neurotypical slayer who has a great life rather than a Sociopathic slayer who throws a beer bottle through a bus window because of low inhib antisocial urges and gets a criminal record.


And a ASPD-haver over 125 IQ is as rare as Indian chadlite.
and I view having low/no empathy/sympathy as a borderline subhuman trait, genetics wise


On the Topic of IQ

and why it barely matters.
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Before I continue, I must admit 3 things.
Higher IQ does correlate with higher salary.
Higher IQ does correlate with higher happiness.
Higher IQ does correlate with higher empathy.
But it is not even top 10 most important variables when being born. It literally only matters if you're either top 0.1% or bottom 0.1%,
and I will DEBOOONK the cope that it is even a top 5 most important variable

IQ is simply less important than
- Your looks
- Your height
- Your race
- Your natural health
- Your emotional intelligence

- The country you were born in
- The social/wealth class you're born into
- Parental situation
- Whether or not your parents even love you from birth
- If you're born with a physical disorder
- If you're born with a mental disorder
- The personality your genetics decide for you
- Whether or not you have Autism
- Arguably, even your voice is more important

Literally 12 variables that are more important, and you could maybe argue 2 max are less important.
It is the most overrated variable, the way people talk about it on here, you'd think people with 145+ iq can move objects with their mind.
Unless you're bottom 5% or top 0.1% IQ then your fucking VOICE will make more of a difference than your IQ. People here act like having under 100 IQ is death tier super retard when 50.55% of the UK's population is under that, and like 75-80% of the world's population is under that.

[AND I HAVE NEVER TAKEN AN IQ TEST BEFORE I GET ACCUSED OF COPING]

Higher IQ does correlate with higher salary.
Higher IQ does correlate with higher happiness.
Higher IQ does correlate with Higher empathy.
But so does all the other variables I mentioned, and they make more of an impact.
And no, you are not a misunderstood 170 IQ genius rotting on a forum of people stupider than you, with your genius just waiting to shine upon all of us once you decide to try. You will end up a 40 yr old internet rotter if you keep thinking like this.

TL;DR

Being Autistic is as bad as getting deducted 1.25 face points/10 if you're neurotypical.

Having ASPD/Psychopathy/Sociopathy is always worse than being neurotypical

IQ is not even a top 10 most important variable considering base stats, and is COPE for people who have NOTHING ELSE.

Neurotypiciality will always, and has never not been, LAW.

Neurotypical adults watched videos of people, some autistic and some nonautistic, without being told who was autistic.
They were more likely to dislike the autistic people, often citing reasons like “perceived awkwardness” and “lack of empathy.”
Neurotypical (TD) raters tend to rate autistic adults less favorably on traits like “awkwardness,” “attractiveness,” “dominance,” etc., even when the TD raters don’t know the person is autistic.
serial killer iq median source
INB4 "Sociopathy/Psychopathy are not medically recognized terms anymore" I do not care.
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read every molecule:bigbrain: reminds me of when i was a kid and idolised being cold psychopath

i remember when you replied to my OT thread and called me retarded so i decided to check your latest post out:feelswhere:
I actually don't know what thread you're talking about, can you link it
 
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It's the dumbest, lowest iq rotters that come up with situations like these in their heads, it's just a complete lack of understanding for how anything works, and they base reality off of what it's like in Dexter and Breaking Bad :lul:
They aren't even psychopaths. Dexter is just low empathy autist and Walter White is a pretty much regular person. The psychopath would be the Todd guy from same show.
And no, you are not a misunderstood 170 IQ genius rotting on a forum of people stupider than you, with your genius just waiting to shine upon all of us once you decide to try. You will end up a 40 yr old internet rotter if you keep thinking like this.
Jfl so funny yet so true.
 
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every thread is a gem, tag me on the next one nigga
 
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Read every pixel, I agree that autism is a downgrade in general, same with psychopathy and sociopathy, but I can’t agree that IQ is that insignificant, but it certainly is overrated af. Great thread
 
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Thanks I basically always use it

Read every pixel, I agree that autism is a downgrade in general, same with psychopathy and sociopathy, but I can’t agree that IQ is that insignificant, but it certainly is overrated af. Great thread
IQ isn't insignificant since the shape of your feet could totally impact your life's trajectory nevermind IQ, but you get utter retards like this who cope with IQ so hard when there are a dozen more important variables for life quality.
They don't think of the IQ difference between a bottom 20% and a top 20%, they think of the IQ difference between maybe the average person and micheal schofield JFL
2025 10 12 10 11
@noahwillascend utter retard
 
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Yeah

That the idea that autistic niggas are all 140 iq geniuses is a dumb stereotype

Most autists have a below average iq, and they don't thrive in society.

In 99% of cases, autism is a mental disease, not a super power
 
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Yeah

That the idea that autistic niggas are all 140 iq geniuses is a dumb stereotype

Most autists have a below average iq, and they don't thrive in society.

In 99% of cases, autism is a mental disease, not a super power
Jfl, i saw a 40 year old mom in facebook talking about “noooo, calling autism a disease is very bad!!!!!! And inappropriate ”
 
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Amazing thread as always chad😫
 
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good thread, how many points would you reduce if one had asperger, it’s the lowest level of autism.
 
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good thread, how many points would you reduce if one had asperger, it’s the lowest level of autism.
I honestly see the aspergers diagnosis as a bit of a cope [atleast when it's seperated from ASD] but I guess I would put it between 1 and 1.25
Originally in my head autism removed 1.00 points out of 10 but after more research i concluded atleast 1.25

I thought aspergers was just high functioning autism but apparently it's more of a high functioning-high functioning autism, so.
The reason i put autism at 1.25 instead of 1.00 is because a neurotypical mtn in highschool can get a good friend group, socialize, get good social proof and from there get a girlfriend, but an aspie HTN will probably get isolated over time resulting is a worse result than the neurotypical normie when socializing.
I would say this effect continues to chadlite but once you reach 7.25/10 [assuming chadlite is 7/10 and chad is 8/10] i guess looks would start nullifying the effects of your autism by quite alot, aspie chads basically get their autism completely nullified unless they're seriously severely autistic, like they need someone to take care of them, or they can't make their own food tier.
 
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Thanks I basically always use it


IQ isn't insignificant since the shape of your feet could totally impact your life's trajectory nevermind IQ, but you get utter retards like this who cope with IQ so hard when there are a dozen more important variables for life quality.
They don't think of the IQ difference between a bottom 20% and a top 20%, they think of the IQ difference between maybe the average person and micheal schofield JFL
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@noahwillascend utter retard
I see online arguments as pointless, but I view optimal range for IQ for life satisfaction to be around 110-130.

Within that range you can be smart enough to avoid/solve many problems in your life and be free and understand things as they are.

I don't imply that people who are outside that range live unfulfilling lives.

Overall, IQ is a mid-tier def not a high-tier or low-tier constant for happiness in life.
 
I see online arguments as pointless, but I view optimal range for IQ for life satisfaction to be around 110-130.

Within that range you can be smart enough to avoid/solve many problems in your life and be free and understand things as they are.

I don't imply that people who are outside that range live unfulfilling lives.

Overall, IQ is a mid-tier def not a high-tier or low-tier constant for happiness in life.
I don't believe there is such a thing as a low tier variable anyways, if it affects your life in any way it's not low tier
 
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Neurotypiciality will always, and has never not been, LAW.
this + low inhib

besides, i think you were generous with only
a 1.25 deduction. depending on the severity of the autism, it can range from said -1.25, all the way to absolutely raping your social skills to death and dooming any chance of slaying, kinda
 
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this + low inhib

besides, i think you were generous with only
a 1.25 deduction. depending on the severity of the autism, it can range from said -1.25, all the way to absolutely raping your social skills to death and dooming any chance of slaying, kinda
In first writing of this thread i said that high functioning removes 1.25, and it increases till 2.25 once it hits low functioning, but it was too many words and wasn't engaging so i removed it
 
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Autism deducts 1.25 points out of 10
And so do most disorders.
And that's High Functioning Autism, before the cope comes in. No, the fact High functioning autists have 108 iq average instead of 100 is not nearly enough to make up for it. I would not even see it as a fair trade if Autism gave you 140 iq on average.
No, it's not better to be neurodivergent in literally any conceivable way over neurotypical.
No. Masking does NOT WORK.


Long post so TL;DR at the bottom for the low IQcels

One of the most unbelievably overrated variables on this forum is
- IQ
- Sociopathy/Psychopathy
And one of the most underrated/under discussed variables is whether you have autism or not


On the topic of Autism:

View attachment 4201100
There was this study that completely blackpilled me on autism and neurodivergency. It was a study wanting to see how easy it was for neurotypical [normal people] to recognize whether or not someone had Autism. The results showed that neurotypical people were fucking masters at recognizing whether or not someone had autism, even people barely on the spectrum. The thing was, they did not assign them as them having "autism" but instead they assigned them as "weird" or "creepy" or "awkward" or "off."
If you truly are diagnosed with autism reading this, you might ask yourself "why did the other kids ignore me in nursery/primary school, I was not noticably ugly or weird." It's because you had autism. It's because you had a mental disorder that, without you being able to even recognize it's impact, basically fucked you're childhood social life and social development completely. [
Which is why so many people on this site show clear signs of emotional stunting.]
And that is why, Autism deducts 1.25 points out of 10.
If you are 6/10 HTN with autism, you will have the same experience as a 4.75/10 H-LTN neurotypical in the long run, when socializing.
If you are 5/10 MTN with autism, you will have the same experience as a 3.75/10 LTN/Subhuman neurotypical in the long run, when socializing.
Yes, a 5/10 with Autism will get treated like a borderline subhuman, which is to say, he will be completely ignored when trying to making friends.

The neurotypical person will not know why they isolate you. If they are asked by others they might make up reasons in their mind then genuinely believe it.
["he's weird, he's creepy, he's awkward" - same excuses girls make when asked why they bullied an ugly kid]
And no, masking does not work. There is legitimately no way to nullify your autism, only thing you can do is lessen it's impact by having NPC voicelines at the ready to fill in the white noise, and having responses to NPC questions like "what music do you listen to" ready.
"I mask and nobody knows" they might not KNOW you have autism but they can TELL you're different. And even if it did completely work, YEARS OF MASKING HAS BEEN PROVEN TO CAUSE PSYCHOTIC BREAKDOWNS IN NEURODIVERGENT PEOPLE [autists, psychopaths, bpd/HPD havers, depressives, etc] so good luck when you kill your wife and go to jail in 15 years all because of muh masking.
For the IQ copers, which I address later on, is all this worth it, all this social isolation and stress from not understanding whether or not something is weird or normal societally, all for a bit of extra IQ?


On the topic of ASPD:
“Though he [the psychopath] may possess a good mind, he does not profit from experience nor does he show the ability to learn from his mistakes.”
-- The Mask of Sanity, Hervey Cleckley (5th ed., 1976)

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I am going to rip the band-aid off from the start: Anti-Social Personality Disorder is a BAD disorder to have - morals aside.
If you have read literally any literature on the disorder, this would be the same as me telling you "the sky is blue."
When you read case studies of people with the disorder, you wonder something, why do all these people make the stupidest mistakes, and WHY are ALL of them alcoholic losers? Yes, people with ASPD are much stupider compared to the average person [85–95 iq average], and this is not because the studies are on prison populations with higher percentages of non whites. There is a reason the median IQ for serial killers in the United States is 86, and that is because ASPD havers are overwhelmingly over represented in serial killing [the same way Jews are over represented in finance--] due to their nature, and because most of them are genuinely stupid, it nukes the median IQ of serial killers.
Most Psychopaths are not Psychopaths because some switch in their brain is flipped off, they are Psychopaths because their brain is legitimately too Stupid to comprehend basic human abilities like sympathy.
The best way to think of ASPD is like this: it is literally Delayed Delinquency. ASPD havers are just Delinquents who just could never grow out of it.

[which is why psychiatrists wait till age 18 before they diagnose anyone with ASPD btw]


What about muh 150-170 IQ Psychopathic CEO with 17.22 billion dollar Net worth?!?!
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"Okay okay, you're right about the average ASPD haver on the street, but wouldn't it be friggin' cool to be a Psychopathic CEO, in the front you're a 55 year old family man with your family dog, perfect house and car, but behind closed doors you're selling Agent Orange to the US military and selling baby formula with way too little nutrients to underdeveloped countries in Africa? With too much money and no care in the world??"
NO
I wouldn't want to be that. I would rather be a neurotypical normie who will experience genuine emotions with other humans and not be at constant risk of having a psychotic break :lul: I would rather be able to feel something when I hold my kids. The only people who would idolise this are normies who read Normie-Grift-Social-SLOP like the 48 laws of power or incels who don't have any human interaction in their lives anyways so any life [such as this one] is a step up.

What about muh 145 IQ Sociopathic Slayer
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"Okay bro but imagine you're a young, tall, 23" bideltoid sociopathic slayer, you're a total chick magnet bro! And you don't take shit from anyone, and you're low inhib brooo!!! Wouldn't you want that?!"
NO
I would rather be a NEUROTYPICAL 145iq tall 23" Bideltoid slayer. That "Sociopathic" part is a DOWNGRADE. Sociopaths are borderline RETARDED. READ THE FUCKING LITERATURE. I'M SICK OF THIS RETARDED DARK TRIAD ASPD LARP BULLSHIT.
I would rather be a neurotypical slayer who has a great life rather than a Sociopathic slayer who throws a beer bottle through a bus window because of low inhib antisocial urges and gets a criminal record.


And a ASPD-haver over 125 IQ is as rare as Indian chadlite.
and I view having low/no empathy/sympathy as a borderline subhuman trait, genetics wise


On the Topic of IQ

and why it barely matters.
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Before I continue, I must admit 3 things.
Higher IQ does correlate with higher salary.
Higher IQ does correlate with higher happiness.
Higher IQ does correlate with higher empathy.
But it is not even top 10 most important variables when being born. It literally only matters if you're either top 0.1% or bottom 0.1%,
and I will DEBOOONK the cope that it is even a top 5 most important variable

IQ is simply less important than
- Your looks
- Your height
- Your race
- Your natural health
- Your emotional intelligence

- The country you were born in
- The social/wealth class you're born into
- Parental situation
- Whether or not your parents even love you from birth
- If you're born with a physical disorder
- If you're born with a mental disorder
- The personality your genetics decide for you
- Whether or not you have Autism
- Arguably, even your voice is more important

Literally 12 variables that are more important, and you could maybe argue 2 max are less important.
It is the most overrated variable, the way people talk about it on here, you'd think people with 145+ iq can move objects with their mind.
Unless you're bottom 5% or top 0.1% IQ then your fucking VOICE will make more of a difference than your IQ. People here act like having under 100 IQ is death tier super retard when 50.55% of the UK's population is under that, and like 75-80% of the world's population is under that.

[AND I HAVE NEVER TAKEN AN IQ TEST BEFORE I GET ACCUSED OF COPING]

Higher IQ does correlate with higher salary.
Higher IQ does correlate with higher happiness.
Higher IQ does correlate with Higher empathy.
But so does all the other variables I mentioned, and they make more of an impact.
And no, you are not a misunderstood 170 IQ genius rotting on a forum of people stupider than you, with your genius just waiting to shine upon all of us once you decide to try. You will end up a 40 yr old internet rotter if you keep thinking like this.

TL;DR

Being Autistic is as bad as getting deducted 1.25 face points/10 if you're neurotypical.

Having ASPD/Psychopathy/Sociopathy is always worse than being neurotypical

IQ is not even a top 10 most important variable considering base stats, and is COPE for people who have NOTHING ELSE.

Neurotypiciality will always, and has never not been, LAW.

Neurotypical adults watched videos of people, some autistic and some nonautistic, without being told who was autistic.
They were more likely to dislike the autistic people, often citing reasons like “perceived awkwardness” and “lack of empathy.”
Neurotypical (TD) raters tend to rate autistic adults less favorably on traits like “awkwardness,” “attractiveness,” “dominance,” etc., even when the TD raters don’t know the person is autistic.
serial killer iq median source
INB4 "Sociopathy/Psychopathy are not medically recognized terms anymore" I do not care.
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Very good thread 🥰
 
jfl autistic cunt shut up fr ur brainstem must be underdeveloped that's y u cant even mew right lol
 
damn this is some based shit fr
 
fr bro its slow af rn lol better luck next time ig autisticntmaxer said:
 
bruh this gay af fr based on my looks i would prob get +10 points for autism ngl lmao im an autistic savant
 

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