Average men on the street thinks they need ripped body to attract women but what they really need is $5000 to ascend.

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Once again I repeat:

Chin on an average men is pathetic.
I rarely see a forward projected chin that comes close to the lips (easily fixable by sliding genioplasty).
I see plenty of wide chin but unfortunately they lack symmetry - harmony is still brutal pill (easily fixable by 1ml of filler).

Chin is literally responsible for:

Eliminating double chin
Make your lower third more angular
Increase your madibular length
Achieve straight profile
Balance lip profile - eliminate protruding lower lip
Wide chin is very dimorphic and it ascends your 3/4 and angular profile hard (look Sean’O Pry in motion)
Makes you look mature, intimidating and dominating
Girls are less likely to call you cute - just can’t imagine a guy with broad, forward projected chin getting called cute (def hot in women eyes).

We keep talking about the bridcel side profile but guess what lack of forward projection from chin is hugely responsible in creating that look and most people aren’t that recessed.

In short:
Take the Chinpill. It’s brutal on men.
 
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I rarely see a forward projected chin that comes close to the lips (easily fixable by sliding genioplasty).
In which subhuman shithole do you live jfl
 
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Bro what? I have a good chin yet I dont get any attention from even children get the hell out.
 
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I've noticed the opposite.
Most guys I see IRL have normal strong chins, strong jaws, etc
But I never see ''pretty'' guys. The vast majority of men lack pretty features: skin elasticity, lips, nose, eye area, general skull shape, phenotype
(which is basically what makes someone good looking)
 
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I've noticed the opposite.
Most guys I see IRL have normal strong chins, strong jaws, etc
But I never see ''pretty'' guys. The vast majority of men lack pretty features: skin elasticity, lips, nose, eye area, general skull shape, phenotype
(which is basically what makes someone good looking)
Exactly :blackpill::blackpill:
 
I have ok chin projection so this is super weird to me. Literally just beardfraud or get genio or nuke all your jaw problems with chin wing, such an easily fixable failo
 
cope, meeks has a normal chin projection and he's top tier model/chad
 
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chin lives matter.

But how the whole face looks like, matters more
 
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chin is irrelevant in comparison to things such as ramus, gonial angle, maxilla etc.. small chinned slayers are ten a penny. it should be the last area of concern, and even then, only for those who want a highly masc look.
 
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Once again I repeat:

Chin on an average men is pathetic.
I rarely see a forward projected chin that comes close to the lips (easily fixable by sliding genioplasty).
I see plenty of wide chin but unfortunately they lack symmetry - harmony is still brutal pill (easily fixable by 1ml of filler).

Chin is literally responsible for:

Eliminating double chin
Make your lower third more angular
Increase your madibular length
Achieve straight profile
Balance lip profile - eliminate protruding lower lip
Wide chin is very dimorphic and it ascends your 3/4 and angular profile hard (look Sean’O Pry in motion)
Makes you look mature, intimidating and dominating
Girls are less likely to call you cute - just can’t imagine a guy with broad, forward projected chin getting called cute (def hot in women eyes).

We keep talking about the bridcel side profile but guess what lack of forward projection from chin is hugely responsible in creating that look and most people aren’t that recessed.

In short:
Take the Chinpill. It’s brutal on men.
Chin is more important than jaw tbh, (from front which is more important than side irl)
 
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chin is irrelevant in comparison to things such as ramus, gonial angle, maxilla etc.. small chinned slayers are ten a penny. it should be the last area of concern, and even then, only for those who want a highly masc look.
Gonial angle is just PSL thing, there is nothing wrong to have high gonial angle
 
I've noticed the opposite.
Most guys I see IRL have normal strong chins, strong jaws, etc
But I never see ''pretty'' guys. The vast majority of men lack pretty features: skin elasticity, lips, nose, eye area, general skull shape, phenotype
(which is basically what makes someone good looking)
finally someone gets it isnt all about bones. Its both soft and hard features
 
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chin is irrelevant in comparison to things such as ramus, gonial angle, maxilla etc.. small chinned slayers are ten a penny. it should be the last area of concern, and even then, only for those who want a highly masc look.

Chin is literally one of the most important things for sexual dimorphism and aesthetics on both genders but more for males.

A good ramus creates a good chin that is not too short. A good gonial angle also creates one not too short while not too tall with not enough projection. So yes these things are very important. But they mean nothing if your chin is still bad.

That is why chin is the most important feature for males.
 
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Very true, that's literally me. My dating life improved beyond reasoning with a better chin.
 
Greycell moment

Just get a genio and filler bro.

Meanwhile the 5"5 pajeet will still be hardmogged by anyone even with that.

Also filler for chin is very looksmin on the long term.
 
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I've noticed the opposite.
Most guys I see IRL have normal strong chins, strong jaws, etc
But I never see ''pretty'' guys. The vast majority of men lack pretty features: skin elasticity, lips, nose, eye area, general skull shape, phenotype
(which is basically what makes someone good looking)
What are pretty lips, nose, eye area, skull shape and pheno?
 
What are pretty lips, nose, eye area, skull shape and pheno?
Lips - color, shape, proportions
Nose - shape, proportions
Skull shape - Shape and dimension of the orbitals, gonial shape, maxillary shape (the whole skull really)

There's not a single ideal, bc it's how all the features fit together as well. But you know it when you see it

Pheno - How all the features fit together to create something harmonious (something genetic that can<t be fixed with surgeries)
 
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Lips - color, shape, proportions
Nose - shape, proportions
Skull shape - Shape and dimension of the orbitals, gonial shape, maxillary shape (the whole skull really)

There's not a single ideal, bc it's how all the features fit together as well. But you know it when you see it

Pheno - How all the features fit together to create something harmonious (something genetic that can<t be fixed with surgeries)
Does race affect rating?
 
Does race affect rating?
yeah of course. But you can find at least decent phenos in every race, and some are worse than others
 
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True I look like a different person after mewing for past 6 months
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chin is irrelevant in comparison to things such as ramus, gonial angle, maxilla etc.. small chinned slayers are ten a penny. it should be the last area of concern, and even then, only for those who want a highly masc look.
s way more important than ramus
 
Once again I repeat:

Chin on an average men is pathetic.
I rarely see a forward projected chin that comes close to the lips (easily fixable by sliding genioplasty).
I see plenty of wide chin but unfortunately they lack symmetry - harmony is still brutal pill (easily fixable by 1ml of filler).

Chin is literally responsible for:

Eliminating double chin
Make your lower third more angular
Increase your madibular length
Achieve straight profile
Balance lip profile - eliminate protruding lower lip
Wide chin is very dimorphic and it ascends your 3/4 and angular profile hard (look Sean’O Pry in motion)
Makes you look mature, intimidating and dominating
Girls are less likely to call you cute - just can’t imagine a guy with broad, forward projected chin getting called cute (def hot in women eyes).

We keep talking about the bridcel side profile but guess what lack of forward projection from chin is hugely responsible in creating that look and most people aren’t that recessed.

In short:
Take the Chinpill. It’s brutal on men.
Its good i chin mog the world
 
Wrong. you need fluffy dense thick hair with wavy texture to attract girls. Fluffy hair is the thing attractive in female gaze, while chin is less relevant. These tiktokers receive plenty of compliments from girls depsite often lacking PSL features.



Hair blackpill concerns the fact that fluffy hairs of handsome tiktokers are genetical and these tutorials are cope
 
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Wrong. you need fluffy dense thick hair with wavy texture to attract girls. Fluffy hair is the thing attractive in female gaze, while chin is less relevant. These tiktokers receive plenty of compliments from girls depsite often lacking PSL features.



Hair blackpill concerns the fact that fluffy hairs of handsome tiktokers are genetical and these tutorials are cope

the fluffy hair pill destroyed me
 
I expected a bad bluepill topic but you are right. Chin and jawline just make up so much of your physical attractiveness it'd be dumb not to alter it if you have money.

The best bang for buck operation for sure.

I also agree with the hair post above. If you don't have thick, nw1 hair, you will never be ON material to most young women.

P.s. don't get fillers unless you are already at very low body fat or you'll waste money. Male aesthetics are only visible at sub 15% bf
 
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I've noticed the opposite.
Most guys I see IRL have normal strong chins, strong jaws, etc
But I never see ''pretty'' guys. The vast majority of men lack pretty features: skin elasticity, lips, nose, eye area, general skull shape, phenotype
(which is basically what makes someone good looking)
Yeah most guys i see are masc never see any blend of masc and female features
 
I expected a bad bluepill topic but you are right. Chin and jawline just make up so much of your physical attractiveness it'd be dumb not to alter it if you have money.

The best bang for buck operation for sure.

I also agree with the hair post above. If you don't have thick, nw1 hair, you will never be ON material to most young women.

P.s. don't get fillers unless you are already at very low body fat or you'll waste money. Male aesthetics are only visible at sub 15% bf

Yeah man chin is so important
 
Agree with the chinpill. Genio gave me at least a full point of attractiveness. Getting jacked was another point. Now working on skincare.
 
Agree with the chinpill. Genio gave me at least a full point of attractiveness. Getting jacked was another point. Now working on skincare.

Yup chin pill is brutal I have done powerlifting shows but don't have a strong chin I get zero women.
 
I've noticed the opposite.
Most guys I see IRL have normal strong chins, strong jaws, etc
But I never see ''pretty'' guys. The vast majority of men lack pretty features: skin elasticity, lips, nose, eye area, general skull shape, phenotype
(which is basically what makes someone good looking)
No way do you see strong bones regularly. That's cap. The rest I agree with
 
Agree with the chinpill. Genio gave me at least a full point of attractiveness. Getting jacked was another point. Now working on skincare.
How much height was added during genio? Did u get widening and projection added as well?
 

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