Balding might soon be a thing of the past

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There are currently two very promising non conventional treatments in clinical trials at the moment, these might compliment each other very well if the first one doesn't restore full coverage.
Finasteride, dustasteride, minoxidil and hair systems might be a thing of the past, relatively soon.

These are:
1) HMI-115.
2) Verteporfin during transplants.

HMI -115
Lets talk about HMI-115 first. The redditor tired45453 laid it out perfectly and made it very easy to understand, so I will essentially copy his bulletin points:

  • Effect of HMI-115 was discovered by accident in a similar manner as Finasteride. Was being used to treat endometriosis, when Bayer noticed mice regrew hair.
  • Bayer was not interested in researching HMI-115's potential effects on AGA, as they had pivoted towards women's issues. However, Rui-Ping Xiao, who was working with them, asked to test the drug on bald, stumptailed macaques. This is where we get the pictures showing hair growth through four years. Bayer agreed, and when the results came in she formed HopeMed Inc., and purchased the global rights to the drug from Bayer in 2019.
  • The bald, stumptailed macaques are unique in hair-loss research in that they experience AGA in the same way humans do. DHT causes their follicles to miniaturize, and they go bald in a similar pattern as us. Previous hair-loss treatments such as Finasteride and minoxidil show similar efficacies in macaques as they do in us. Hair transplants work for them, just like for us.
  • To clear up some confusion regarding results on the macaques: The observation period is still ongoing. The macaques did not lose all their hair after four years. Furthermore, slight regression was experienced after cessation of the 6-month treatment in some of the macaques. However, that slight regression stabilized soon after cessation, and the macaques experienced regrowth far after cessation of treatment. Again, the observation period is still ongoing. The macaques have kept their hair for four years and counting.
Prolactin Hair Growth

  • There was no plateau reached during the 6-month study, meaning there could have been potentially greater gains had the treatment continued.
  • Completely bald areas responded the best.
  • HMI-115 would be effective for diffuse thinners and for those struggling with telogen effluvium.
  • Inhibiting serum prolactin levels will not work, as the hair follicle produces its own prolactin.
  • HMI-115 works because it is a prolactin receptor antagonist that targets the PRL receptors on the follicle.
  • HMI-115 has already undergone a Phase I trial in women. The FDA greenlit Phase II for AGA already back in early 2022, but Australia did not. The reason for this is that the FDA allowed them to extrapolate safety data from Phase I for endometriosis, but Australia denied them.
  • The current Phase I trial is essentially a formality. They term it Phase Ib.
  • No serious adverse effects reported in the Phase I trial in women. Relevant quote regarding side effects:
a relevant question is whether blocking the PRLR by SMI-6 would cause undesirable side effects in treated BC patients. We think not. Indeed, cabergoline, a potent suppressor of pituitary PRL release, has been chronically prescribed to thousands of patients with hyperprolactinemia with minimal ill effects. On the contrary, all known adverse effects of PRL result from its overproduction, which can cause infertility in women, impotence in men, and aggravation of autoimmune diseases. The only potential caveat is that women with BC who have an infant, will not produce breast milk while treated with a PRLR-blocking drug. However, breast feeding in patients with BC is clearly not a recommended practice.
  • 14 genes were found upregulated in frontal vs vertex scalp. At least 10 of them are upregulated by prolactin receptor signaling, and 2 others induce prolactin secretion. Many of these genes are also upregulated by Wnt inhibition.
  • Prolactin receptor in follicles may play a role in alopecia areata.
  • DHT induces increased prolactin production. DHT doesn't directly cause miniaturization; DHT binding to follicles increases prolactin, which in turn causes miniaturiaztion. DHTs role in hair loss is finally adequately explained.
  • The role of prolactin in hair loss has been known for two decades now. No research has been done because no one bothered to develop a prolactin receptor antagonist.
  • At least in certain blood cells PRLR expression increases in adulthood as GHR expression decreases. This coincides with the time when men start losing their hair. Additionally, newborns have extremely high levels of serum prolactin, 100-300ng/ml, well beyond hyperprolactinema levels of 20ng/ml. This could be why newborns lose hair in the male pattern baldness pattern, and lends some credibility to the theory that PRLR expression is responsible for the hair loss pattern found in Androgenetic Alopecia. Prolactin levels return to normal in the weeks to months before babies regrow their hair.

Now, a user with the username of moeman32 has been a part of this clinical trial, he was posting updates on /r/tressless semi regularly, which he was not allowed to do, and he almost got kicked out of the trial because of it, as some sad moron essentially ratted on him to the researchers who were conducting this trial.
17 days ago, however. He posted this subtle post, you can read two of the comments he replied to and make your own conclusion.

Verteporfin
There is a megathread about Verteporfin on hairrestorationnetwork that you can view here.

So what is Verteporfin? TLDR it's a drug that prevents the pathways to scarring.
So the idea is to massively increase the amount of donor hairs that can be used for a transplant.
Say that your a Norwood 6-7, likely you won't be a candidate for a hair transplant unless you have a huge density in the donor area as well as thick hair.
The idea here, is to harvest hair follicles, then inject verteporfin into the donor area.
The tissue recovers in a much more physiological fashion, and even the harvested hair follicle might return.
This is being experimented on by a handful of hair transplant surgeons currently, as the first trial by Dr. Barghouthi showed great promise.
 
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They've been saying that for years and fin is still used after decades
 
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botox injections in temporalis combined with fin has been shown in studies to increase haircount by 30-35% for anyone interested
 
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They've been saying that for years and fin is still used after decades
15 years ago you wouldnt be able to find a good hair transplant clinic


it evolves , slowly but surely
 
People have already synthesized hmi-115 and bought it via group buy (not too pricey, actually) , but it was just recently and it's too early to tell how effective it is for them and if there are any additional side effects they noticed.
 
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People have already synthesized hmi-115 and bought it via group buy (not too pricey, actually) , but it was just recently it's it's too early to tell how effective it is for them and if there are any additional side effects they noticed.
Wait, you serious?
I've been looking into this, and my impression was that an antibody like HMI-115 couldn't be synthesized easily due to it being an antibody, and if it did, it would be *very* expensive.
Feel free to PM me any info you got on this, as I'd be interested.
 
botox injections in temporalis combined with fin has been shown in studies to increase haircount by 30-35% for anyone interested
source?
 
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15 years ago you wouldnt be able to find a good hair transplant clinic


it evolves , slowly but surely
But thats not the cure. And transplants are always obvious they are so much worse than the original hair
 
Wait, you serious?
I've been looking into this, and my impression was that an antibody like HMI-115 couldn't be synthesized easily due to it being an antibody, and if it did, it would be *very* expensive.
Feel free to PM me any info you got on this, as I'd be interested.
Pardon, my bad, confused it with another compound, which is simple molecule and takes advantage of inhibiting certain gene expression in follicles (novel too).
 
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But thats not the cure. And transplants are always obvious they are so much worse than the original hair
they will never give you hair that young people have , but hairline and just normal hair easily


didnt say its a cure tho, im saying its not stadning on the place its going further

now they do fue instead of fut like 10 years ago even
 
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hairlosstalk died
 
they will never give you hair that young people have , but hairline and just normal hair easily


didnt say its a cure tho, im saying its not stadning on the place its going further

now they do fue instead of fut like 10 years ago even
whats the best ht result youve seen

what do you mean cant give hair young people have btw. in density or hair quality?
can you grow transplated hair long?
 
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whats the best ht result youve seen

what do you mean cant give hair young people have btw. in density or hair quality?
can you grow transplated hair long?



like that result

youre not having tik tok hair or any cool haircut if you have hairloss


but you can have this default 30 year old haircut
 



like that result

youre not having tik tok hair or any cool haircut if you have hairloss


but you can have this default 30 year old haircut

Donor hair is always shittier compared to native frontal hair, suifuel for ht savers
 
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Both of my Grandpas are bald, Im just waiting for when it happens
 
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There are currently two very promising non conventional treatments in clinical trials at the moment, these might compliment each other very well if the first one doesn't restore full coverage.
Finasteride, dustasteride, minoxidil and hair systems might be a thing of the past, relatively soon.

These are:
1) HMI-115.
2) Verteporfin during transplants.

HMI -115
Lets talk about HMI-115 first. The redditor tired45453 laid it out perfectly and made it very easy to understand, so I will essentially copy his bulletin points:

  • Effect of HMI-115 was discovered by accident in a similar manner as Finasteride. Was being used to treat endometriosis, when Bayer noticed mice regrew hair.
  • Bayer was not interested in researching HMI-115's potential effects on AGA, as they had pivoted towards women's issues. However, Rui-Ping Xiao, who was working with them, asked to test the drug on bald, stumptailed macaques. This is where we get the pictures showing hair growth through four years. Bayer agreed, and when the results came in she formed HopeMed Inc., and purchased the global rights to the drug from Bayer in 2019.
  • The bald, stumptailed macaques are unique in hair-loss research in that they experience AGA in the same way humans do. DHT causes their follicles to miniaturize, and they go bald in a similar pattern as us. Previous hair-loss treatments such as Finasteride and minoxidil show similar efficacies in macaques as they do in us. Hair transplants work for them, just like for us.
  • To clear up some confusion regarding results on the macaques: The observation period is still ongoing. The macaques did not lose all their hair after four years. Furthermore, slight regression was experienced after cessation of the 6-month treatment in some of the macaques. However, that slight regression stabilized soon after cessation, and the macaques experienced regrowth far after cessation of treatment. Again, the observation period is still ongoing. The macaques have kept their hair for four years and counting.
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  • There was no plateau reached during the 6-month study, meaning there could have been potentially greater gains had the treatment continued.
  • Completely bald areas responded the best.
  • HMI-115 would be effective for diffuse thinners and for those struggling with telogen effluvium.
  • Inhibiting serum prolactin levels will not work, as the hair follicle produces its own prolactin.
  • HMI-115 works because it is a prolactin receptor antagonist that targets the PRL receptors on the follicle.
  • HMI-115 has already undergone a Phase I trial in women. The FDA greenlit Phase II for AGA already back in early 2022, but Australia did not. The reason for this is that the FDA allowed them to extrapolate safety data from Phase I for endometriosis, but Australia denied them.
  • The current Phase I trial is essentially a formality. They term it Phase Ib.
  • No serious adverse effects reported in the Phase I trial in women. Relevant quote regarding side effects:

  • 14 genes were found upregulated in frontal vs vertex scalp. At least 10 of them are upregulated by prolactin receptor signaling, and 2 others induce prolactin secretion. Many of these genes are also upregulated by Wnt inhibition.
  • Prolactin receptor in follicles may play a role in alopecia areata.
  • DHT induces increased prolactin production. DHT doesn't directly cause miniaturization; DHT binding to follicles increases prolactin, which in turn causes miniaturiaztion. DHTs role in hair loss is finally adequately explained.
  • The role of prolactin in hair loss has been known for two decades now. No research has been done because no one bothered to develop a prolactin receptor antagonist.
  • At least in certain blood cells PRLR expression increases in adulthood as GHR expression decreases. This coincides with the time when men start losing their hair. Additionally, newborns have extremely high levels of serum prolactin, 100-300ng/ml, well beyond hyperprolactinema levels of 20ng/ml. This could be why newborns lose hair in the male pattern baldness pattern, and lends some credibility to the theory that PRLR expression is responsible for the hair loss pattern found in Androgenetic Alopecia. Prolactin levels return to normal in the weeks to months before babies regrow their hair.

Now, a user with the username of moeman32 has been a part of this clinical trial, he was posting updates on /r/tressless semi regularly, which he was not allowed to do, and he almost got kicked out of the trial because of it, as some sad moron essentially ratted on him to the researchers who were conducting this trial.
17 days ago, however. He posted this subtle post, you can read two of the comments he replied to and make your own conclusion.

Verteporfin
There is a megathread about Verteporfin on hairrestorationnetwork that you can view here.

So what is Verteporfin? TLDR it's a drug that prevents the pathways to scarring.
So the idea is to massively increase the amount of donor hairs that can be used for a transplant.
Say that your a Norwood 6-7, likely you won't be a candidate for a hair transplant unless you have a huge density in the donor area as well as thick hair.
The idea here, is to harvest hair follicles, then inject verteporfin into the donor area.
The tissue recovers in a much more physiological fashion, and even the harvested hair follicle might return.
This is being experimented on by a handful of hair transplant surgeons currently, as the first trial by Dr. Barghouthi showed great promise.
balding has been cured in rats and monkeys several times over. Im fairly sure its been a thing of the past for a long while now its just a matter of whether or not these things ever go through human trials which a lot of them dont
 
They have been saying a cure was right around the corner for well over 30 years.
 
just go bald, look at Jason Statham, The rock
 

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