BIMAX 3 WEEKS POST OP

[normie_joe]

does it mean you cannot make good movements if your ortho puts you into class 1 before sugery?

My case is a bit different, my surgeron told me to get to perfect class 1 before surgery

If your ortho gives you a class 1 bite with recessed jaws and you are planning to get jaw surgery, your ortho is retarded.

That makes no sense.

Please double check with another surgeon, a class 1 bite before jaw surgery makes 0 sense as that would involve camouflage orthodontics.

Unless your surgeon plans to move both jaws the same amount or something like that.

 

[normie_joe]

@chadisbeingmade
Holy cow
Interesting how you can lose hollows from it like he did tho

It's swelling; that area balloons up the most and takes the longest to go away.

 

[enochian]

"He still has no degree, no job, lives with his parents, has zero college social experience but his jaws look normal, so he's perfect Becky."

 

[Eren]

If your ortho gives you a class 1 bite with recessed jaws and you are planning to get jaw surgery, your ortho is retarded.

That makes no sense.

Please double check with another surgeon, a class 1 bite before jaw surgery makes 0 sense as that would involve camouflage orthodontics.

Unless your surgeon plans to move both jaws the same amount or something like that.

my surgeon is raffaini, but will ask him again
my case is a bit special
basically after the camouflage orthodontics i got a mewing appliance that changed my teeth and palate significantly, and my teeth remained straight / got straigher without any retainers
i have no "unnatural" position of my teeth, as they are stable because of this mewing appliance
which means that i basically don't have anything to decompensate to come back to the "previous state" because braces

 

[normie_joe]

my surgeon is raffaini, but will ask him again
my case is a bit special
basically after the camouflage orthodontics i got a mewing appliance that changed my teeth and palate significantly, and my teeth remained straight / got straigher without any retainers
i have no "unnatural" position of my teeth, as they are stable because of this mewing appliance
which means that i basically don't have anything to decompensate to come back to the "previous state" because braces

If it's raffaini, then I guess he has a reason for what he does.

 

[Eren]

If it's raffaini, then I guess he has a reason for what he does.

i hope so, i will make sure that i'm not getting fucked over

i will start braces in 2 weeks

 

[7940mogger]

3 weeks Post OP

I said I would get bimax and post no matter how good/shit the result was, so here it is.

Tried to keep angle, lighting consistent as I can.

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Movements were lefort 1 5mm, bsso 10mm (8 or 9 on one side, I had asymmetrical lower jaw movements), and a 4mm genio.

I had a bit of CCW.

SNA: 76 -> 85.5
SNB: 72 -> 83

I'm still omega swollen, the side doesn't do justice for how my chipmunky my cheeks look from the front.

There's a lot of shit I want to talk about and the limits of this surgery.

It would take a ton of time to write a comprehensive guide, so I want to see if there's people that want to read it. If everyone would rather read threads on BBC smv to whores from Birmingham on offtopic, I'm not going to bother.

Noteworthy things:

There were as much vertical changes as horizontal, my lower third height looks more proportional.

In certain lighting, I have hollows as the surgery(esp. the bsso) stretched my skin. It almost looks like I'm cheeksucking when I'm not.

The pain I would describe as a more "bludgeoning" type of pain on the sides of my jaw. There's lots of pressure, which is supposedly muscular, so Advil has helped. It's not the post wisdom tooth removal pain where it's sharp and stingy.

I highly recommend getting your wisdom teeth out on a separate day prior to surgery, because dealing with both would be fucking awful.

Morphs are fucking useless, because soft tissue will not contour perfectly like you'd hope. For an example, my chin doesn't have that nice "s" shape.

Mentally it's fucking rough as you are constantly alternating between it looks good to it looks like shit. I suggest finding something to keep your brain occupied that is not the mirror or your phone camera.

The bimax was more or less what's expected from a bimax, but I can't subdue that shitty voice in the back of my head(that's getting louder and louder) whispering, "You spent 4 years of your life rotting away for this?"

Here's the fucking truth guys: I did not have that epiphany as I'd hoped. There's no rays of light or angel hymns. It's just "oh I guess that's that."

I'm fucking behind on school doing a piece of shit computering science degree, and by the time I'll get my first real job, I'll be in my late 20s. No bimax for missing life goals.

"He still has no degree, no job, lives with his parents, has zero college social experience but his jaws look normal, so he's perfect Becky."

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worth every penny

 

[spectrumaesthetics2]

It's swelling; that area balloons up the most and takes the longest to go away.

Oh makes sense if more recent. Well enjoy better life and your great base to further ascend from man. Suffering to ascend

 

[normie_joe]

Oh makes sense if more recent. Well enjoy better life and your great base to further ascend from man. Suffering to ascend

Thank you.

All the best to you my guy as well, and I hope what I wrote here helped you out.

 

[LEFORT17]

3 weeks Post OP

I said I would get bimax and post no matter how good/shit the result was, so here it is.

Tried to keep angle, lighting consistent as I can.

View attachment 3639282

Movements were lefort 1 5mm, bsso 10mm (8 or 9 on one side, I had asymmetrical lower jaw movements), and a 4mm genio.

I had a bit of CCW.

SNA: 76 -> 85.5
SNB: 72 -> 83

I'm still omega swollen, the side doesn't do justice for how my chipmunky my cheeks look from the front.

There's a lot of shit I want to talk about and the limits of this surgery.

It would take a ton of time to write a comprehensive guide, so I want to see if there's people that want to read it. If everyone would rather read threads on BBC smv to whores from Birmingham on offtopic, I'm not going to bother.

Noteworthy things:

There were as much vertical changes as horizontal, my lower third height looks more proportional.

In certain lighting, I have hollows as the surgery(esp. the bsso) stretched my skin. It almost looks like I'm cheeksucking when I'm not.

The pain I would describe as a more "bludgeoning" type of pain on the sides of my jaw. There's lots of pressure, which is supposedly muscular, so Advil has helped. It's not the post wisdom tooth removal pain where it's sharp and stingy.

I highly recommend getting your wisdom teeth out on a separate day prior to surgery, because dealing with both would be fucking awful.

Morphs are fucking useless, because soft tissue will not contour perfectly like you'd hope. For an example, my chin doesn't have that nice "s" shape.

Mentally it's fucking rough as you are constantly alternating between it looks good to it looks like shit. I suggest finding something to keep your brain occupied that is not the mirror or your phone camera.

The bimax was more or less what's expected from a bimax, but I can't subdue that shitty voice in the back of my head(that's getting louder and louder) whispering, "You spent 4 years of your life rotting away for this?"

Here's the fucking truth guys: I did not have that epiphany as I'd hoped. There's no rays of light or angel hymns. It's just "oh I guess that's that."

I'm fucking behind on school doing a piece of shit computering science degree, and by the time I'll get my first real job, I'll be in my late 20s. No bimax for missing life goals.

"He still has no degree, no job, lives with his parents, has zero college social experience but his jaws look normal, so he's perfect Becky."

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i wanna ask if your nose width changed cuz of rotation/advancement

 

[normie_joe]

i wanna ask if your nose width changed cuz of rotation/advancement

Yes, even with an alar cinch.

My nose got about 15-20% wider. Still only noticeable to me.

 

[LEFORT17]

Yes, even with an alar cinch.

My nose got about 15-20% wider. Still only noticeable to me.

im gonna get 4-6mm 2-3piece maxilla, 10-12mm mandible with rotation and genio, my nose gonna change too with a standard lefort1 cut right

 

[normie_joe]

im gonna get 4-6mm 2-3piece maxilla, 10-12mm mandible with rotation and genio, my nose gonna change too with a standard lefort1 cut right

It will yeah, hopefully your nose isn't too upturned currently.

 

[LEFORT17]

It will yeah, hopefully your nose isn't too upturned currently.

fortunately not, my nose is pretty good from front and the side angle too, it just appears larger than it is cuz of my jaws

 

[manletmogger]

3 weeks Post OP

I said I would get bimax and post no matter how good/shit the result was, so here it is.

Tried to keep angle, lighting consistent as I can.

View attachment 3639282

Movements were lefort 1 5mm, bsso 10mm (8 or 9 on one side, I had asymmetrical lower jaw movements), and a 4mm genio.

I had a bit of CCW.

SNA: 76 -> 85.5
SNB: 72 -> 83

I'm still omega swollen, the side doesn't do justice for how my chipmunky my cheeks look from the front.

There's a lot of shit I want to talk about and the limits of this surgery.

It would take a ton of time to write a comprehensive guide, so I want to see if there's people that want to read it. If everyone would rather read threads on BBC smv to whores from Birmingham on offtopic, I'm not going to bother.

Noteworthy things:

There were as much vertical changes as horizontal, my lower third height looks more proportional.

In certain lighting, I have hollows as the surgery(esp. the bsso) stretched my skin. It almost looks like I'm cheeksucking when I'm not.

The pain I would describe as a more "bludgeoning" type of pain on the sides of my jaw. There's lots of pressure, which is supposedly muscular, so Advil has helped. It's not the post wisdom tooth removal pain where it's sharp and stingy.

I highly recommend getting your wisdom teeth out on a separate day prior to surgery, because dealing with both would be fucking awful.

Morphs are fucking useless, because soft tissue will not contour perfectly like you'd hope. For an example, my chin doesn't have that nice "s" shape.

Mentally it's fucking rough as you are constantly alternating between it looks good to it looks like shit. I suggest finding something to keep your brain occupied that is not the mirror or your phone camera.

The bimax was more or less what's expected from a bimax, but I can't subdue that shitty voice in the back of my head(that's getting louder and louder) whispering, "You spent 4 years of your life rotting away for this?"

Here's the fucking truth guys: I did not have that epiphany as I'd hoped. There's no rays of light or angel hymns. It's just "oh I guess that's that."

I'm fucking behind on school doing a piece of shit computering science degree, and by the time I'll get my first real job, I'll be in my late 20s. No bimax for missing life goals.

"He still has no degree, no job, lives with his parents, has zero college social experience but his jaws look normal, so he's perfect Becky."

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no bimax for being indian bud

 

[normie_joe]

no bimax for being indian bud

No bimax for a 3.0 fwhr brachy skull either bud

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

What do you think should've been done differently?

Is this not what bimax does? Did I get something that is not bimax?

Nice improvement but you have the typical sliding regular genio look where you can tell there is a sharp séparation between chin and mandibular body

You were a mini chin wing case as your mandible was narrow and retrusive. Nowadays surgeon don't like chin wing as it is more invasive and prefer genio for comfort reason. But chin wing look more balanced, masculine and natural

 

[manletmogger]

No bimax for a 3.0 fwhr brachy skull either bud

Still mogs u to shit, u would have to be a solid lite and atleast 6ft as an indian to be same smv as me

 

[normie_joe]

Nice improvement but you have the typical sliding regular genio look where you can tell there is a sharp séparation between chin and mandibular body

You were a mini chin wing case as your mandible was narrow and retrusive. Nowadays surgeon don't like chin wing as it is more invasive and prefer genio for comfort reason. But chin wing look more balanced, masculine and natural

Yep yep, I'm looking at my face from the front: the right side of my jaw is narrower than my left too. It's asymmetrical, although only noticeable in photos.

I heard Ramieri was the chin wing guy, but he stopped doing it because it messes up your jaw angles or something like that.

.org aspies can spot these things, but as long as it remains incognito to your average normie

When I get the money, I'll see what's up, but surgery is not a priority atm.

 

[normie_joe]

Still mogs u to shit, u would have to be a solid lite and atleast 6ft as an indian to be same smv as me

Fuck off my thread and get your skull vertically decompressed to look like a human instead of a designer pug.

Only SMV hyper brachy untermensches have are to these, which I have no reason to care.

 

[manletmogger]

Fuck off my thread and get your skull vertically decompressed to look like a human instead of a designer pug.

Only SMV hyper brachy untermensches have are to these, which I have no reason to care.

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-said by an indian

 

[normie_joe]

-said by an indian

-Said by my Oblivion character whose face width takes up my entire monitor

 

[manletmogger]

-Said by my Oblivion character whose face width takes up my entire monitor

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lol that pic is so old lol, I was like 14 - 15 years old there impressive how i was htn at that age tbh

 

[normie_joe]

lol that pic is so old lol, I was like 14 - 15 years old there impressive how i was htn at that age tbh

Your skull remains the same.

And htns have normal skulls, and don't bear semblance to this

Also I'll rather not talk about how we can elongate your skull on this thread, as I don't want it going off on a tangent.

We can talk about it on another thread.

 

[manletmogger]

Your skull remains the same.

And htns have normal skulls, and don't bear semblance to this

Also I'll rather not talk about how we can elongate your skull on this thread, as I don't want it going off on a tangent.

We can talk about it on another thread.

1.26 tfwhr is in a totally normal range of headshapes, slight flaw I could name u atleast 5 htns with same fwhr as me lol

 

[Jonas2k7]

Your skull remains the same.

And htns have normal skulls, and don't bear semblance to this

Also I'll rather not talk about how we can elongate your skull on this thread, as I don't want it going off on a tangent.

We can talk about it on another thread.

Don't bother debating that guy, he is absolutely delusional and thinks he's HTN or some Chadlite.

Throwback to when he made a thread about how he lost his v-card to a LTB indian

 

[Androx]

3 weeks Post OP

I said I would get bimax and post no matter how good/shit the result was, so here it is.

Tried to keep angle, lighting consistent as I can.

View attachment 3639282

Movements were lefort 1 5mm, bsso 10mm (8 or 9 on one side, I had asymmetrical lower jaw movements), and a 4mm genio.

I had a bit of CCW.

SNA: 76 -> 85.5
SNB: 72 -> 83

I'm still omega swollen, the side doesn't do justice for how my chipmunky my cheeks look from the front.

There's a lot of shit I want to talk about and the limits of this surgery.

It would take a ton of time to write a comprehensive guide, so I want to see if there's people that want to read it. If everyone would rather read threads on BBC smv to whores from Birmingham on offtopic, I'm not going to bother.

Noteworthy things:

There were as much vertical changes as horizontal, my lower third height looks more proportional.

In certain lighting, I have hollows as the surgery(esp. the bsso) stretched my skin. It almost looks like I'm cheeksucking when I'm not.

The pain I would describe as a more "bludgeoning" type of pain on the sides of my jaw. There's lots of pressure, which is supposedly muscular, so Advil has helped. It's not the post wisdom tooth removal pain where it's sharp and stingy.

I highly recommend getting your wisdom teeth out on a separate day prior to surgery, because dealing with both would be fucking awful.

Morphs are fucking useless, because soft tissue will not contour perfectly like you'd hope. For an example, my chin doesn't have that nice "s" shape.

Mentally it's fucking rough as you are constantly alternating between it looks good to it looks like shit. I suggest finding something to keep your brain occupied that is not the mirror or your phone camera.

The bimax was more or less what's expected from a bimax, but I can't subdue that shitty voice in the back of my head(that's getting louder and louder) whispering, "You spent 4 years of your life rotting away for this?"

Here's the fucking truth guys: I did not have that epiphany as I'd hoped. There's no rays of light or angel hymns. It's just "oh I guess that's that."

I'm fucking behind on school doing a piece of shit computering science degree, and by the time I'll get my first real job, I'll be in my late 20s. No bimax for missing life goals.

"He still has no degree, no job, lives with his parents, has zero college social experience but his jaws look normal, so he's perfect Becky."

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Woah you just got 7x times funnier and you seem to have a better personality

 

[normie_joe]

Don't bother debating that guy, he is absolutely delusional and thinks he's HTN or some Chadlite.

Throwback to when he made a thread about how he lost his v-card to a LTB indian

He literally just started shit completely out of the blue.

I can piss on that brachy subanimal all day, but don't want this thread being diluted with unrelated garbage.

 

[manletmogger]

Don't bother debating that guy, he is absolutely delusional and thinks he's HTN or some Chadlite.

Throwback to when he made a thread about how he lost his v-card to a LTB indian

how is it delusional? If that is what most people rate me..

 

[manletmogger]

He literally just started shit completely out of the blue.

I can piss on that brachy subanimal all day, but don't want this thread being diluted with unrelated garbage.

jealous indian tbh

 

[normie_joe]

Woah you just got 7x times funnier and you seem to have a better personality

 

[Jonas2k7]

how is it delusional? If that is what most people rate me..

You think the average .org 14 year old on here knows what is ideal?

You literally made a thread yourself about that topic wondering why you are treated so subhuman meanwhile most retards on here rate you higher than you are.

Bud thinks he has a PSL-gazed face

Psl gazed faces are not attractive to women (Appeal/harmony is law)

my face is objectively 6.5 aka Mid HTN could be slightly lower or higher depending on the rater (accounting the front profile only) however my face lacks harmony, which is law to female gaze. Do u really think a female is choosing my face over a harmonious high mtn - low HTN? I don’t think so...

looksmax.org

@normie_joe @chadisbeingmade @Magnum Opus

 

[skkrrrtcantdo]

jealous indian tbh

All this brachy hate i’ve been seeing recently is making me insecure

 

[manletmogger]

You think the average .org 14 year old on here knows what is ideal?

You literally made a thread yourself about that topic wondering why you are treated so subhuman meanwhile most retards on here rate you higher than you are.

Bud thinks he has a PSL-gazed face

Psl gazed faces are not attractive to women (Appeal/harmony is law)

my face is objectively 6.5 aka Mid HTN could be slightly lower or higher depending on the rater (accounting the front profile only) however my face lacks harmony, which is law to female gaze. Do u really think a female is choosing my face over a harmonious high mtn - low HTN? I don’t think so...

looksmax.org

@normie_joe @chadisbeingmade @Magnum Opus

I don't get my ratings from 14 year olds lol, ngl that post doesn't really prove shit. Also I never made a post where I said I get treated shit ever I'd like to see a link thread to that

 

[normie_joe]

jealous indian tbh

If I'm going to be jealous, might as well as be of someone worthy of being jealous

Creatures below I use as inspiration for caricature drawing

 

[manletmogger]

All this brachy hate i’ve been seeing recently is making me insecure

It's because of indians tbh

 

[normie_joe]

All this brachy hate i’ve been seeing recently is making me insecure

Nah you are cool bro, just don't go picking fights with everyone by being an insufferable narcy.

 

[manletmogger]

If I'm going to be jealous, might as well as be of someone worthy of being jealous

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Creatures below I use as inspiration for caricature drawing

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dude u are literally indian u would take the chance of being a white MTN anyday of the week

 

[chadisbeingmade]

1.26 tfwhr is in a totally normal range of headshapes, slight flaw I could name u atleast 5 htns with same fwhr as me lol

muh “i can name 5 who have this flaw”

do you people not understand they are good looking despite having that flaw, not because of it.

They’d look better without it.

 

[manletmogger]

muh “i can name 5 who have this flaw”

do you people not understand they are good looking despite having that flaw, not because of it.

some people have extreme biases to brachy skulls I have seen it a few times tbh this jonas kid is one of them

 

[Jonas2k7]

I don't get my ratings from 14 year olds lol, ngl that post doesn't really prove shit.

Your statement implied that quantity of ratings determines its correctness, thats what my message was about.

Even if all users on here say you are Chadlite you are still a MTN, any smart user knows that.

Also I never made a post where I said I get treated shit ever I'd like to see a link thread to that

Keep coping Steve

@chadisbeingmade

 

[manletmogger]

All this brachy hate i’ve been seeing recently is making me insecure

I realised that alot of the hate actually comes from either long faced people so basically the opposite, or indians coping about their own skull

 

[manletmogger]

Your statement implied that quantity of ratings determines its correctness, thats what my message was about.

Even if all users on here say you are Chadlite you are still a MTN, any smart user knows that.

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Keep coping Steve

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@chadisbeingmade

The slaying culture seems disgusting to me its just personal preference, and I lost my v card at like 15 dude idgaf that was ages ago now and my area is extremely unattractive. Also, any high iq user rates me htn lol idk where u got that from tbh

 

[Androx]

Tbh how much did it cost tho?

 

[normie_joe]

dude u are literally indian u would take the chance of being a white MTN anyday of the week

I'll give that opportunity to this creature, as being a white mtn with a normal skull will benefit him more than me.

 

[manletmogger]

I'll give that opportunity to this creature, as being a white mtn with a normal skull will benefit him more than me.

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I bet ur one of the missiles minions like that jonas dude they are all interlinked somehow

 

[normie_joe]

Tbh how much did it cost tho?

10k for surgery and 10k for braces.

 

[castizo_ascender]

I bet ur one of the missiles minions like that jonas dude they are all interlinked somehow

"muh castizo_ascender owns the forum" nigga just accept u lost the argument and that ur not that well-liked on this forum for a reason

 

[manletmogger]

"muh castizo_ascender owns the forum" nigga just accept u lost the argument and that ur not that well-liked on this forum for a reason

What argument? He’s just saying the same thing Everytime

 

[castizo_ascender]

Still mogs u to shit, u would have to be a solid lite and atleast 6ft as an indian to be same smv as me

u legit look half black no real white person has ur nigger nose and lips