Bimax is probably one of the most tedious fucking surgeries there is

[Deleted member 25705]

Braces for year, you look extra subhuman during the decompensation process, you got a lisp with the braces, you gotta wait in a wait list, you can't chew food for a month, you can't weight train.

My fucking god, this sucks. I hate this shit so much.

Who else is on the braces phase?

 

[wollet2]

ive had braces in the past but never a lisp or impaired speech

 

[Deleted member 66864]

Braces for year, you look extra subhuman during the decompensation process, you got a lisp with the braces, you gotta wait in a wait list, you can't chew food for a month, you can't weight train.

My fucking god, this sucks. I hate this shit so much.

Who else is on the braces phase?

invisalign better it’s over

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

thats too brutal. forgot to say that afterwards you will be swollen for months and look more bloated

why cant we just have some crazy technology already making this shit easier

 

[Deleted member 25705]

invisalign better it’s over

I did a comparison to invisalign and drew some pros and cons essentially.

Pros of invisalign: you can take them out, food doesn't get stuck in mouth, practically invisible, easier to clean teeth.

Cons: your teeth will only move when you are wearing them; if you don't wear them, teeth won't move which might prolong your wait time for surgery. You have to take them out every time you eat.

Ultimately I want the least hassle as possible, so I chose braces.

 

[Deleted member 25705]

thats too brutal. forgot to say that afterwards you will be swollen for months and look more bloated

why cant we just have some crazy technology already making this shit easier

Fortunately my gonion width and all that is great, I have a wide jaw.

Problem is it's set back, so bimax (or bsso) is needed to push the jaw and chin forward.

Mother fuckers that need angle implants and crap on top, good lord may Gandy have mercy.

 

[Deleted member 11127]

One year of braces is still short, I read stories about people wearing braces for 3+ years and average is more like 2 years before and few months after, so yeah, don't wait if you need this surgery, because it will take atleast 3 years to get 100% normal.

 

[Deleted member 40416]

Same it is dogshit. Some surgeons also highly suggested I do genioplasty only which would also be cheaper. But Ramieri strongly suggested bimax so hopefully it is worth it.
I also havnt reached the stage where my lip seal is deformed, which will be even more shit

 

[Deleted member 40416]

Also was awkward explaining to an orthodontist I wanted to have jaw suegery with a surgeon from the other side of the world infront of his foid assistants

 

[Deleted member 40416]

why cant we just have some crazy technology already making this shit easier

It's already good enough tbh, you can fix a literal extreme deformity. Would be so much worse if this wasn't an option

 

[UglyGod360]

Also was awkward explaining to an orthodontist I wanted to have jaw suegery with a surgeon from the other side of the world infront of his foid assistants

Same problem brother. Have you found any solutions?

 

[Deleted member 33030]

Surgery first

 

[bradpittshairline]

i doubt most people get enough improvement for the pain to be worth it

 

[Deleted member 25705]

i doubt most people get enough improvement for the pain to be worth it

Gonna find out soon enough.

 

[Deleted member 40416]

Same problem brother. Have you found any solutions?

Just emailed 10 different orthos asking them if they would do it

 

[Foreverbrad]

Just emailed 10 different orthos asking them if they would do it

I emailed literally every ortho in my country and none would do it, I have to fly to the capital of another country to work with an Ortho that already has worked with one of our Blackpill surgeons. Best of luck…

 

[UglyGod360]

Just emailed 10 different orthos asking them if they would do it

Damn I don’t think all of them are going to respond. I messaged some Mexican ortho on WhatsApp and the bitch left me of ignored after telling her about decompensation, well I’m waiting to her back on it since Friday.

What’s your backup plan if that doesn’t work? Seems like every bluepilled ortho doesn’t deem DJS necessary but it definitely is

 

[UglyGod360]

I emailed literally every ortho in my country and none would do it, I have to fly to the capital of another country to work with an Ortho that already has worked with one of our Blackpill surgeons. Best of luck…

Which capital? Are u in Europe? I’m guessing u are lol, which country r u in rn? I was in Italy and France not too long ago

 

[Deleted member 40416]

Damn I don’t think all of them are going to respond. I messaged some Mexican ortho on WhatsApp and the bitch left me of ignored after telling her about decompensation, well I’m waiting to her back on it since Friday.

What’s your backup plan if that doesn’t work? Seems like every bluepilled ortho doesn’t deem DJS necessary but it definitely is

Im already in braces I found a good ortho who is willing to work with overseas surgeon

 

[Deleted member 40416]

I emailed literally every ortho in my country and none would do it, I have to fly to the capital of another country to work with an Ortho that already has worked with one of our Blackpill surgeons. Best of luck…

That's odd I found one In my mega cucked and bluepilled country (australia)

 

[UglyGod360]

Im already in braces I found a good ortho who is willing to work with overseas surgeon

That was quick. So ur also getting decompensation right? Which surgeon r u choosing overseas and how did the ortho react to that

 

[Deleted member 40416]

That was quick. So ur also getting decompensation right? Which surgeon r u choosing overseas and how did the ortho react to that

I was already in braces when I made that post. Yes im getting decomp. I dont want more people going to my surgeon lol. Ortho just asked why i wanted to go overseas and i said because they had a good reputation

 

[bradpittshairline]

That's odd I found one In my mega cucked and bluepilled country (australia)

Australia actually has a very well known "blackpill" surgeon named Dr. Paul Coceancig but I heard he got his medical license suspended recently due to performing a 3 piece lefort or bimax (not sure) simply for aesthetics which is life-threatening

 

[Deleted member 40416]

Australia actually has a very well known "blackpill" surgeon named Dr. Paul Coceancig but I heard he got his medical license suspended recently due to performing a 3 piece lefort or bimax (not sure) simply for aesthetics which is life-threatening

yeah i consulted with him, i think he is bad and bluepilled. He wouldnt do bimax but all the european surgeons i talked to said i would get a better result if i did bimax

 

[idkwhattoputhere]

Braces for year, you look extra subhuman during the decompensation process, you got a lisp with the braces, you gotta wait in a wait list, you can't chew food for a month, you can't weight train.

My fucking god, this sucks. I hate this shit so much.

Who else is on the braces phase?

why would you ever choose braces over invisalign?

 

[Deleted member 25705]

why would you ever choose braces over invisalign?

Good question.

Biggest con of invisalign is you you need to wear them to move your teeth; you don't wear them, teeth don't move. If you fuck this step up, you take longer to move your teeth and consequently more time waiting for surgery.

With braces, you forget it and leave it.

 

[idkwhattoputhere]

Good question.

Biggest con of invisalign is you you need to wear them to move your teeth; you don't wear them, teeth don't move. If you fuck this step up, you take longer to move your teeth and consequently more time waiting for surgery.

With braces, you forget it and leave it.

honestly seems like a risk i’m willing to take, the cut up gums and lisp can go fuck themselves i’m gonna get RPE and if my breathing is still ass i’m going to do a bimax

 

[Deleted member 25705]

honestly seems like a risk i’m willing to take, the cut up gums and lisp can go fuck themselves i’m gonna get RPE and if my breathing is still ass i’m going to do a bimax

Hey if that's easier for you, go ahead.

 

[RazerGlazer]

Braces for year, you look extra subhuman during the decompensation process, you got a lisp with the braces, you gotta wait in a wait list, you can't chew food for a month, you can't weight train.

My fucking god, this sucks. I hate this shit so much.

Who else is on the braces phase?

"

Bimax is probably one of the most tedious fucking surgeries there is" -

 

[UglyGod360]

I was already in braces when I made that post. Yes im getting decomp. I dont want more people going to my surgeon lol. Ortho just asked why i wanted to go overseas and i said because they had a good reputation

Understandable. These surgeons here in the us act mortified when u bring up jaw surgery.

So decompensation in ur case is creating an overjet, so is decompensarion done during or after ur braces are off? How many consultations did u have for orthos until they accepted overseas surgeon and what r ur bimax movements?

 

[Deleted member 40416]

Understandable. These surgeons here in the us act mortified when u bring up jaw surgery.

So decompensation in ur case is creating an overjet, so is decompensarion done during or after ur braces are off? How many consultations did u have for orthos until they accepted overseas surgeon and what r ur bimax movements?

wdum "decompensarion done during or after ur braces are off"? I'll have surgery while the braces are on, and apparantly need to keep them for 6 months after surgery. Surgeon asked for a 6mm overjet. Bimax movements aren't planned until decompensation is complete, but if i had to guess like 6mm BSSO, some CCWR, maybe 1-2mm lefort, and a large genioplasty

 

[UglyGod360]

wdum "decompensarion done during or after ur braces are off"? I'll have surgery while the braces are on, and apparantly need to keep them for 6 months after surgery. Surgeon asked for a 6mm overjet. Bimax movements aren't planned until decompensation is complete, but if i had to guess like 6mm BSSO, some CCWR, maybe 1-2mm lefort, and a large genioplasty

Yeah so like decompensation is basically creating an overjet to bring the mandible further forward DURING surgery correct?

And how long are ur teeth gonna remain in that decompensated state?

 

[Deleted member 40416]

Yeah so like decompensation is basically creating an overjet to bring the mandible further forward, correct?

And how long are ur teeth gonna remain in that decompensated state?

yes.
1 year total. around 3 months so far. Could be longer if there are complications/ teeth move slowly

 

[UglyGod360]

yes.
1 year total. around 3 months so far. Could be longer if there are complications/ teeth move slowly

So if the decompensation process is just creating an overjet then do u only have top braces or if u do have bottom as well then what purpose do the bottom braces serve?

 

[Deleted member 40416]

So if the decompensation process is just creating an overjet then do u only have top braces or if u do have bottom as well then what purpose do the bottom braces serve?

the overjet is created by bring the lower teeth back in my case, but i also have braces on upper to correct minor crowding and help move teeth incase their in the way of the lower jaw advancement

 

[UglyGod360]

the overjet is created by bring the lower teeth back in my case, but i also have braces on upper to correct minor crowding and help move teeth incase their in the way of the lower jaw advancement

Huh, that’s interesting r ur top jaw incisors proclined?

So basically ur ortho is not pushing ur top teeth forward just solving crowding and instead they’re pushing the bottom teeth back wards? I never heard of that hmm

By lower teeth can u be more specific please. Lower incisors, canines, and are they doing anything with the molars?

 

[Deleted member 40416]

my upper incisors are slightly procline, my lower incisors are significantly proclined. most class 2 surgical cases will push the lower teeth back like im doing. I don't know which teeth.

 

[Deleted member 69008]

Yo

Huh, that’s interesting r ur top jaw incisors proclined?

So basically ur ortho is not pushing ur top teeth forward just solving crowding and instead they’re pushing the bottom teeth back wards? I never heard of that hmm

By lower teeth can u be more specific please. Lower incisors, canines, and are they doing anything with the molars?

question. are u still on gh? how did u not see any facial bone growth in 2 years. did your face not actually change or did it..?

 

[UglyGod360]

Yo

question. are u still on gh? how did u not see any facial bone growth in 2 years. did your face not actually change or did it..?

lol funny u ask that I just got my hgh kits today. Honestly I might have gotten some bone growth but nothing significant. I do remember specifically how my zygos got big with bone smashing while on hgh+igf1lr3+vit d+vit k2 but it’s important to note that I was also LEAN facially lean and muscular

If you’re still young tho i would recommend that stack. I got a lot of ioi doing that stack, this was when I was a teenager. As far as height I probably only grew like 2cm

 

[Deleted member 69008]

lol funny u ask that I just got my hgh kits today. Honestly I might have gotten some bone growth but nothing significant. I do remember specifically how my zygos got big with bone smashing while on hgh+igf1lr3+vit d+vit k2 but it’s important to note that I was also LEAN facially lean and muscular

If you’re still young tho i would recommend that stack. I got a lot of ioi doing that stack, this was when I was a teenager. As far as height I probably only grew like 2cm

bro, my maxilla and shit literally swung downward. I got recessed from HGH. my midface literally lengthened. it happened in 3.5 months My skin is horrible oh my god.

 

[UglyGod360]

bro, my maxilla and shit literally swung downward. I got recessed from HGH. my midface literally lengthened. it happened in 3.5 months My skin is horrible oh my god.

How’d that happened. Are you sure that’s not just bloat

 

[Deleted member 69008]

How’d that happened. Are you sure that’s not just bloat

dude no it fucking isn’t isn’t it fucking crazy. My midface literally lengthens and so did my nasal bone. I have no underyes anymore my maxilla literally got pushed backwards and grew downwards. i was fuckinf 17 with open plates. i thought my bones were supposed to just grow thicker not elongate bro. FUCK man, now i might have to hop back on HGH and hard new 24/7 to get forwards growth. I don’t know what the fuck to do.

 

[UglyGod360]

dude no it fucking isn’t isn’t it fucking crazy. My midface literally lengthens and so did my nasal bone. I have no underyes anymore my maxilla literally got pushed backwards and grew downwards. i was fuckinf 17 with open plates. i thought my bones were supposed to just grow thicker not elongate bro. FUCK man, now i might have to hop back on HGH and hard new 24/7 to get forwards growth. I don’t know what the fuck to do.

Relax I remember feeling like that too at some point and I was also scared it would make my face deformed but nothing ended up happening you probably always had some downward growth and hgh made it more noticeable

 

[Deleted member 69008]

How’d that happened. Are you sure that’s not just bloat

look at

Relax I remember feeling like that too at some point and I was also scared it would make my face deformed but nothing ended up happening you probably always had some downward growth and hgh made it more notic

hey nigga? ready? check this shit out.

didnt even get fucking taller.

 

[Deleted member 69008]

Relax I remember feeling like that too at some point and I was also scared it would make my face deformed but nothing ended up happening you probably always had some downward growth and hgh made it more noticeable

complete longer midface, analyze that shit. negative tilt. no forward growth anymore at all. HGH didn’t fucking grow anybtitn. IT ROTATED MY MAXILLA DOWNWARDSZ. Maybe because I wasn’t fucking mewing while using HGH for 3.5 months? OH MY FUVKING god bro. i’m going to cry.

 

[Deleted member 69008]

Relax I remember feeling like that too at some point and I was also scared it would make my face deformed but nothing ended up happening you probably always had some downward growth and hgh made it more noticeable

Did you mew consistently? i didn’t even have closed growth plates mine were open. I don’t think i was mewing consistently

 

[Deleted member 69008]

Relax I remember feeling like that too at some point and I was also scared it would make my face deformed but nothing ended up happening you probably always had some downward growth and hgh made it more noticeable

i was mewing back third. thats bad too.

 

[Deleted member 69008]

Relax I remember feeling like that too at some point and I was also scared it would make my face deformed but nothing ended up happening you probably always had some downward growth and hgh made it more noticeable

look did u see the pics?

 

[UglyGod360]

look did u see the pics?

look did u see the pics?

look did u see the pics?

look did u see the pics?

U look like Syrian psycho. Wanna talk about it what’s ur discord

 

[Deleted member 69008]

U look like Syrian psycho. Wanna talk about it what’s ur discord

msg me it’s just unbrotherly no #. But you saw that shit right? How did my fave change like that bro. No way this shit is permanent it was only 3.5 months and my doses were low. I was fucking around with peptides and alpha gpc with it tho