(Bimax) Jaw surgery Potentially covered by insurance

[eyenerf]

Whats up, first post here.

I have TMD popping, a recessed jaw, and a narrow airway. A recent sports physical showed my breathing capacity (FVC) is only 70% of predicted—my doctor even said it’s comparable to an Asian . I’m convinced my jaw is the bottleneck for my breathing and aesthetic .

I went to the dentist to see about surgery approval. She was skeptical and asked if this was just for aesthetics, I just said no and repeated jaw pain, dry mouth, and breathing issues. After some convincing, I successfully secured a referral to a gnathologist.

Even if the Bimax is insured, I’m planning on Invisalign (about €2,000–€3,000) since braces aren't covered. If you’re in the Netherlands with a recessed jaw and popping, this might be enough to get approved.

Any advice on what to communicate to the gnathologist? I have the appointment soon

I'll let you guys know how it goes.

Side profile no jutting

 

[geenk worg]

If it's payed by the government/insurance, my advice would be to act clueless about jaw movements. Just tell the surgeon that you are a bit concerned about aesthetics, that is enough.

You gotta ask him later to explain the movements that he wants him to preform, don't try asking for specific movements.

 

[sherry12]

If it's payed by the government/insurance, my advice would be to act clueless about jaw movements. Just tell the surgeon that you are a bit concerned about aesthetics, that is enough.

You gotta ask him later to explain the movements that he wants him to preform, don't try asking for specific movements.

Reason for this? I also have the option for a medically coevered bimax but I plan on being clear with surgeon I want to maximize aesthetics.

 

[geenk worg]

Reason for this? I also have the option for a medically coevered bimax but I plan on being clear with surgeon I want to maximize aesthetics.

It's general advice because most surgeons don't like arrogant patients who are coming from Internet forums. they get mad over looksmaxers because it's meant to be functional surgery, not plastic surgery. There are some exceptions tho, for surgeons who would be totally fine with it

 

[eyenerf]

Reason for this? I also have the option for a medically coevered bimax but I plan on being clear with surgeon I want to maximize aesthetics.

i see ur avi, I actually got the lung capacity results from an amateur boxing health check
keep training best way to get lean

 

[sherry12]

i see ur avi, I actually got the lung capacity results from an amateur boxing health check
keep training best way to get lean

Im also an amature boxer im like 12% boxing helps lean out for sure

 

[eyenerf]

It's general advice because most surgeons don't like arrogant patients who are coming from Internet forums. they get mad over looksmaxers because it's meant to be functional surgery, not plastic surgery. There are some exceptions tho, for surgeons who would be totally fine with it

I will just be honest besides the aesthetic part and say I am reasonably concerned cause i don't wanna look worse, something like that

 

[Realism]

If it's payed by the government/insurance, my advice would be to act clueless about jaw movements. Just tell the surgeon that you are a bit concerned about aesthetics, that is enough.

You gotta ask him later to explain the movements that he wants him to preform, don't try asking for specific movements.

It's so fucking sad that this is the way.

 

[Majed.963]

Whats up, first post here.

I have TMD popping, a recessed jaw, and a narrow airway. A recent sports physical showed my breathing capacity (FVC) is only 70% of predicted—my doctor even said it’s comparable to an Asian . I’m convinced my jaw is the bottleneck for my breathing and aesthetic .

I went to the dentist to see about surgery approval. She was skeptical and asked if this was just for aesthetics, I just said no and repeated jaw pain, dry mouth, and breathing issues. After some convincing, I successfully secured a referral to a gnathologist.

Even if the Bimax is insured, I’m planning on Invisalign (about €2,000–€3,000) since braces aren't covered. If you’re in the Netherlands with a recessed jaw and popping, this might be enough to get approved.

Any advice on what to communicate to the gnathologist? I have the appointment soon

I'll let you guys know how it goes.

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You Guy have a Lot of Potential

 

[eyenerf]

Im also an amature boxer im like 12% boxing helps lean out for sure

+fun
Maybe ill see you in the ring one day
enjoy your day man

 

[eyenerf]

You Guy have a Lot of Potential

Thank you man, this is only side profile tho i am lacking in multiple places

Im planning on
bimax
infraorbital rim implants
and either aqualix or buccal fat removal
and fatgrafting for less uee
fixing acne obviously

Only need to make plans for fixing my thyroid

 

[Majed.963]

Chill you May Not BE needing all of this how old are you

 

[eyenerf]

Chill you May Not BE needing all of this how old are you

20yo
ig you dont need anything really but im getting a bit of an obsession

Ive been 8% before for boxing and still have chubby cheeks
plus my midface is simply recesses

 

[Majed.963]

Ah If you are 20 you might need some of them because you should BE Out of pubarity

 

[Majed.963]

ITS a litle weird that you still have a lot accne breacouts

 

[eyenerf]

ITS a litle weird that you still have a lot accne breacouts

its been getting better im eating very clean but its just a super slow process

 

[eyenerf]

Ah If you are 20 you might need some of them because you should BE Out of pubarity

not even that crazy sounding to me tbh

bimax if insured 2-4k
inraorbitalrim implants 10kish
maybe like 5k for the rest

I think i can come up with that money this year even
who cares about taxes if i can look better lol

 

[Majed.963]

Yeah for real i mean you coud borow mony from the bank Not Sure what this proces IS called on Englisch

 

[eyenerf]

Yeah for real i mean you coud borow mony from the bank Not Sure what this proces IS called on Englisch

The thing with taxes is i have my own small business so i can just ask for a delay to pay them and move the problem to next year

I don't mind living frugaly

 

[Majed.963]

Hahaha yes

 

[Be_ConfidentBro]

Idk you are recessed but there is some forward growth plus you are bloated as fuck which makes it way worse

 

[eyenerf]

Idk you are recessed but there is some forward growth plus you are bloated as fuck which makes it way worse

You're trynna say i dont need it?

i believe my maxilla is good but my infraorbitals and mandible are recessed, and i have lacking zygos

 

[Be_ConfidentBro]

You're trynna say i dont need it?

i believe my maxilla is good but my infraorbitals and mandible are recessed, and i have lacking zygos

I mean yeah a bimax WOULD ascend you bro but idk if the risk/reward ratio works out in your favor tho ngl. I would debloat first and also wait a couple years if you are around 18/19, there are cases where some bone development happens until 21/22, it won't unreceade you but it might make you less recessed which combing with debloating could make bimax a lot less appealing. Good luck