Blackpilled Trimax surgeons who aren't butchers? e.g. Turkey, South America etc.

[vnw[oggwg]

I have this bad feeling that my consult with Ramieri is going to be a waste of time and he'll be the same as my consult with Pagnoni.
I have nightmares of him telling me he won't operate on me or hell come out with some bluepilled bullshit like "beauty is subjective"

Has anyone had bimax/trimax in like Brazil or South America? Sao Paulo spawned loads of models and there's actual rich people there so there must be some good blackpilled surgeons.

I'm watching that Timothy Haireth guy to see if he gets botched in Turkey but Im' still scared of going there and getting fucked up at some bimax mill

I'm in this shit situation where I can only afford to spend like $100,000USD on everything from flights, accommodation, trimax + implants so going to the US to Gunson or Steinbacher or Walline or Bell is out of my price range

 

[tyler1234]

Bro 100k is not a shit situation are u ok

 

[GymcellIsLaw]

100K is wayyy more than enough for trimax + implants bro, you can check out Dr Andre Luis Bim in Brazil Sao Paulo, Dr Federico Becker in Brazil. Also Dr Mehrnoosh Dastaran in Melbourne since you live in Australia. She's the one who did the amazing work on that Asian guy and took him from recessed subhuman to a forward grown HTN in one operation. However she's a foid so I personally wouldn't trust her with my jaws being seperated from my skull but that's up to you. I think Brazil is amazing for Trimax and Implants cause it's cheap but the surgeons also produce great results.

 

[vnw[oggwg]

Bro 100k is not a shit situation are u ok

Shit adds up mate.
- $3000 minimum for flights to europe or turkey or south america
- probably a few thousand for medical travel insurance specific to the country I'm going to
- trimax + implants will be $40-60,000
- anaesthetist fees $10-15,000
- hospital fees $20-30,000 out of pocket
- 3 weeks in a hotel with my own room and bathroom while I recover alone is gonna be $100 per day

All up it's over $100,000 total cost if everything goes right

 

[GymcellIsLaw]

Good luck with your consultation hopefully it doesn't go like your Pagnoni Disaster, that was fucking hilarious to read.

 

[vnw[oggwg]

100K is wayyy more than enough for trimax + implants bro, you can check out Dr Andre Luis Bim in Brazil Sao Paulo, Dr Federico Becker in Brazil. Also Dr Mehrnoosh Dastaran in Melbourne since you live in Australia. She's the one who did the amazing work on that Asian guy and took him from recessed subhuman to a forward grown HTN in one operation. However she's a foid so I personally wouldn't trust her with my jaws being seperated from my skull but that's up to you. I think Brazil is amazing for Trimax and Implants cause it's cheap but the surgeons also produce great results.

Thanks for the suggestions I will look at those guys.

Australia seems fucked for getting trimax for cosmetic reasons. All the surgeons here are bluepilled asf except Paul Coceanig who lost his medical licence a few years ago. I saw this local ortho surgeon IRL in my city and asked him who does jaw surgery in Australia for aesthetics and he said "no one" and the dude unironically recommended Gunson and Arnett. I even talked about Coceanig and he laughed and politely said he didn't quite agree with Coceanig's ideas about surgery but left it at that.

That asian guy did have an insane transformation but

 

[GymcellIsLaw]

Thanks for the suggestions I will look at those guys.

Australia seems fucked for getting trimax for cosmetic reasons. All the surgeons here are bluepilled asf except Paul Coceanig who lost his medical licence a few years ago. I saw this local ortho surgeon IRL in my city and asked him who does jaw surgery in Australia for aesthetics and he said "no one" and the dude unironically recommended Gunson and Arnett. I even talked about Coceanig and he laughed and politely said he didn't quite agree with Coceanig's ideas about surgery but left it at that.

That asian guy did have an insane transformation but

Going to South America or Europe for Surgery is definitely the way to go unless you're rich

 

[tyler1234]

Shit adds up mate.
- $3000 minimum for flights to europe or turkey or south america
- probably a few thousand for medical travel insurance specific to the country I'm going to
- trimax + implants will be $40-60,000
- anaesthetist fees $10-15,000
- hospital fees $20-30,000 out of pocket
- 3 weeks in a hotel with my own room and bathroom while I recover alone is gonna be $100 per day

All up it's over $100,000 total cost if everything goes right

U clearly have no clue u don’t pay hospital and anaesthesia fees for turkey and Europe there included in the price

 

[vnw[oggwg]

U clearly have no clue u don’t pay hospital and anaesthesia fees for turkey and Europe there included in the price

yeah Im not even at the stage where I have a surgery plan or price quote I'm planning worst case scenario but its good to hear that hospital and anaesthesia is included in the price I just assumed ppl were talking about surgeon's fees only

Still, if something goes wrong and I have to say in the ICU for 1-2 nights then that's tens of thousands of dollars out of pocket

 

[justjutting]

Comert did a decent job on @midfacedeficient. Had some complications but aesthetically it was fine

 

[Surgerymaxxer1998]

I have this bad feeling that my consult with Ramieri is going to be a waste of time and he'll be the same as my consult with Pagnoni.
I have nightmares of him telling me he won't operate on me or hell come out with some bluepilled bullshit like "beauty is subjective"

Has anyone had bimax/trimax in like Brazil or South America? Sao Paulo spawned loads of models and there's actual rich people there so there must be some good blackpilled surgeons.

I'm watching that Timothy Haireth guy to see if he gets botched in Turkey but Im' still scared of going there and getting fucked up at some bimax mill

I'm in this shit situation where I can only afford to spend like $100,000USD on everything from flights, accommodation, trimax + implants so going to the US to Gunson or Steinbacher or Walline or Bell is out of my price range

If he ever finds out u are a blackpilled looksmaxxer he will ghost u. I went to him and he refused to widen my jaw and told me nobody is perfect. Tried to communicate with him told him to send my medical records to some place but no answer it's like everything just shut off between me and him I even contacted him via titkok where he reads the comments dudes an ass tbh

 

[Surgerymaxxer1998]

Ramieri I mean

 

[vnw[oggwg]

If he ever finds out u are a blackpilled looksmaxxer he will ghost u. I went to him and he refused to widen my jaw and told me nobody is perfect. Tried to communicate with him told him to send my medical records to some place but no answer it's like everything just shut off between me and him I even contacted him via titkok where he reads the comments dudes an ass tbh

Did you have a in person consult or digital? The brutality of gettng BTFO by Pagnoni for free was bad enough but it will be 10x worse if Ramieri says the same thing after paying $150 and waiting 2 months

People on here talking about how these surgeons did up 3D models of their shit and talked about movements and surgery plans on the first consult is ropefuel if everything goes wrong for me

 

[tyler1234]

Did you have a in person consult or digital? The brutality of gettng BTFO by Pagnoni for free was bad enough but it will be 10x worse if Ramieri says the same thing after paying $150 and waiting 2 months

People on here talking about how these surgeons did up 3D models of their shit and talked about movements and surgery plans on the first consult is ropefuel if everything goes wrong for me

Do u have pics of u

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

Shit adds up mate.
- $3000 minimum for flights to europe or turkey or south america
- probably a few thousand for medical travel insurance specific to the country I'm going to
- trimax + implants will be $40-60,000
- anaesthetist fees $10-15,000
- hospital fees $20-30,000 out of pocket
- 3 weeks in a hotel with my own room and bathroom while I recover alone is gonna be $100 per day

All up it's over $100,000 total cost if everything goes right

Nah bro you won't even nearly have to pay all of that

With your 100K you can do these surgeries 3 times minimum while having something left

But yeah in the us and other similar countries you pay more

Having to pay everything out of pocket also the hospital costs etc is a us thing

 

[lurking truecel]

Ramieri does what you want which is bad and good at the same time

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

Ramieri is bluepilled and will only take you on if you are very very recessed

He only wants to fix very obvious failos when it comes to the jaw

But he won't give you a Genio at all of you don't look extremely subhuman cause those are the actual cases that are easiest to ascend

He wouldn't touch a slightly or normally recessed Chin with a 10 foot pole cause he is bad at Genio despite releasing papers on it and he also recently stopped doing Genio widening because he thinks it looked bad when he did it which is true

He also had an underwhelming genio result posted on his Instagram where someone criticised him about him having to learn bone grafting properly which Ramieri took badly and said you make me laugh

Then he deleted the post a week later.....

Ramieri wouldn't give you genio even if it's the biggest Roi surgery in your case cause he only has balls to do Genio on subhumans
Cause he is afraid of genios

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

Ramieri does what you want which is bad and good at the same time

Not really my experience consulting with him at all tbh

 

[Bullofturkishfoids]

Did you have a in person consult or digital? The brutality of gettng BTFO by Pagnoni for free was bad enough but it will be 10x worse if Ramieri says the same thing after paying $150 and waiting 2 months

People on here talking about how these surgeons did up 3D models of their shit and talked about movements and surgery plans on the first consult is ropefuel if everything goes wrong for me

You might get disappointed by Ramieri
I know I was after waiting so many months

 

[lurking truecel]

Not really my experience consulting with him at all tbh

I mean for bimax moevements and procedures etc he does ehat he want himself. But if you say you want bimax you get bimax even if you need something else. He isnt the one to give advice on overall looks since he isnt a plastic surgeon but a maxifacial function focused surgeon primary

 

[midfacedeficient]

Shit adds up mate.
- $3000 minimum for flights to europe or turkey or south america

where the hell are you at?? from atlanta flights are about 1200 to turkey. usually in the 600s if the jew wars aren't popping

- probably a few thousand for medical travel insurance specific to the country I'm going to

surgeon fixed complications for free for me, no insurance

- trimax +

my bimax was 11,000 including transportation to and from everything to do with it; airport to hotel to clinic to hospital whatever

implants will be $40-60,000

mine were like $1000 for a design fee plus 2500-4000 depending on which area the implant was for

- anaesthetist fees $10-15,000

included in the bimax fee

- hospital fees $20-30,000 out of pocket

included in the bimax fee

- 3 weeks in a hotel with my own room and bathroom while I recover alone is gonna be $100 per day

half included in the bimax fee (8 days of it; i paid another 12 or so out of pocket, but it was like $80 a night)

All up it's over $100,000 total cost if everything goes right

mine was just shy of 20,000 for everything including my travel costs and ct scans in the states (bimax, not trimax, but that likely would've added like 5000 maybe)

 

[tyler1234]

Did you have a in person consult or digital? The brutality of gettng BTFO by Pagnoni for free was bad enough but it will be 10x worse if Ramieri says the same thing after paying $150 and waiting 2 months

People on here talking about how these surgeons did up 3D models of their shit and talked about movements and surgery plans on the first consult is ropefuel if everything goes wrong for me

 

[Surgerymaxxer1998]

Did you have a in person consult or digital? The brutality of gettng BTFO by Pagnoni for free was bad enough but it will be 10x worse if Ramieri says the same thing after paying $150 and waiting 2 months

People on here talking about how these surgeons did up 3D models of their shit and talked about movements and surgery plans on the first consult is ropefuel if everything goes wrong for me

Nah man I flew to Italy in person and he wanted to work with some incompetent ortho in LA since I lived there

 

[LilHappyLilSad]

You don't need to wait for Timothy's result. Here:

Same surgeon.

 

[Acquiescence]

where the hell are you at?? from atlanta flights are about 1200 to turkey. usually in the 600s if the jew wars aren't popping

surgeon fixed complications for free for me, no insurance

my bimax was 11,000 including transportation to and from everything to do with it; airport to hotel to clinic to hospital whatever

mine were like $1000 for a design fee plus 2500-4000 depending on which area the implant was for

included in the bimax fee

included in the bimax fee

half included in the bimax fee (8 days of it; i paid another 12 or so out of pocket, but it was like $80 a night)

mine was just shy of 20,000 for everything including my travel costs and ct scans in the states (bimax, not trimax, but that likely would've added like 5000 maybe)

Holy fuck Turkey might indeed be the move after all, look into this shit op. With 100 bands stacked you’ve already won bro, unless you need LL or something you can afford a full face ascension stack and then some

if the jew wars aren't popping

Insert cage laugh gif because SHITphy isn’t working

 

[vnw[oggwg]

where the hell are you at?? from atlanta flights are about 1200 to turkey. usually in the 600s if the jew wars aren't popping

surgeon fixed complications for free for me, no insurance

my bimax was 11,000 including transportation to and from everything to do with it; airport to hotel to clinic to hospital whatever

mine were like $1000 for a design fee plus 2500-4000 depending on which area the implant was for

included in the bimax fee

included in the bimax fee

half included in the bimax fee (8 days of it; i paid another 12 or so out of pocket, but it was like $80 a night)

mine was just shy of 20,000 for everything including my travel costs and ct scans in the states (bimax, not trimax, but that likely would've added like 5000 maybe)

So you got your bimax with Comert? I'm gonna read through that big thread you had on it but it sounds like some people have a good experience and if shit goes wrong you end up botched with no chance of him fixing it. The negative reviews sound like they come from women doing skin stuff and not what you did.

Does he like make you write a 5 start review or something? Weird how its 93% 5 star reviews and then a few 1 star. No usrgeon is perfect but seems fishy like the reviews are being curated

 

[midfacedeficient]

So you got your bimax with Comert? I'm gonna read through that big thread you had on it but it sounds like some people have a good experience and if shit goes wrong you end up botched with no chance of him fixing it.

i had issues with my surgery and he fixed them for free (although i had to pay the travel costs)

The negative reviews sound like they come from women doing skin stuff and not what you did.

Does he like make you write a 5 start review or something?

no. i was happy with my results

Weird how its 93% 5 star reviews and then a few 1 star. No usrgeon is perfect but seems fishy like the reviews are being curated

if you read the google reviews they respond to the lady that i believe posted 2 of those 3 1 star reviews. she paid her deposit, then when she came in person she had something wrong with her to where they couldn't do what she wanted. so they offered a full refund or a different set of procedures of equal value. she chose the other procedures then didn't like them

 

[33Reeves]

100K is wayyy more than enough for trimax + implants bro, you can check out Dr Andre Luis Bim in Brazil Sao Paulo, Dr Federico Becker in Brazil. Also Dr Mehrnoosh Dastaran in Melbourne since you live in Australia. She's the one who did the amazing work on that Asian guy and took him from recessed subhuman to a forward grown HTN in one operation. However she's a foid so I personally wouldn't trust her with my jaws being seperated from my skull but that's up to you. I think Brazil is amazing for Trimax and Implants cause it's cheap but the surgeons also produce great results.

How much is trimax in Brazil with these guys out of curiosity?

 

[GymcellIsLaw]

How much is trimax in Brazil with these guys out of curiosity?

I couldn't say for sure, but i'd estimate anywhere from 10-20K USD

 

[Prøphet]

If he ever finds out u are a blackpilled looksmaxxer he will ghost u. I went to him and he refused to widen my jaw and told me nobody is perfect. Tried to communicate with him told him to send my medical records to some place but no answer it's like everything just shut off between me and him I even contacted him via titkok where he reads the comments dudes an ass tbh

That’s so weird, he seems super blackpilled from what a lot of users here say and then others get responses like this

 

[antiaust]

Erol Cansiz

 

[SpergMaxx]

That’s so weird, he seems super blackpilled from what a lot of users here say and then others get responses like this

He's larping

 

[ascendmaxxer69]

I have this bad feeling that my consult with Ramieri is going to be a waste of time and he'll be the same as my consult with Pagnoni.
I have nightmares of him telling me he won't operate on me or hell come out with some bluepilled bullshit like "beauty is subjective"

Has anyone had bimax/trimax in like Brazil or South America? Sao Paulo spawned loads of models and there's actual rich people there so there must be some good blackpilled surgeons.

I'm watching that Timothy Haireth guy to see if he gets botched in Turkey but Im' still scared of going there and getting fucked up at some bimax mill

I'm in this shit situation where I can only afford to spend like $100,000USD on everything from flights, accommodation, trimax + implants so going to the US to Gunson or Steinbacher or Walline or Bell is out of my price range

there is one blackpilled surgeon in germany who does trimax for like 14-15k

 

[monecel]

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He's larping

W larps

 

[Jgns]

i had issues with my surgery and he fixed them for free (although i had to pay the travel costs)

no. i was happy with my results

if you read the google reviews they respond to the lady that i believe posted 2 of those 3 1 star reviews. she paid her deposit, then when she came in person she had something wrong with her to where they couldn't do what she wanted. so they offered a full refund or a different set of procedures of equal value. she chose the other procedures then didn't like them

Foid retardation

 

[Jgns]

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He's larping

I cannot believe that 40 year old fuck acc posted that bs to Ig, nuke the whole colosseum

 

[HenryLang182]

there is one blackpilled surgeon in germany who does trimax for like 14-15k

Who is ? What is his name?

 

[ascendmaxxer69]

Who is ? What is his name?

dm

 

[kingofkings]

If he ever finds out u are a blackpilled looksmaxxer he will ghost u. I went to him and he refused to widen my jaw and told me nobody is perfect. Tried to communicate with him told him to send my medical records to some place but no answer it's like everything just shut off between me and him I even contacted him via titkok where he reads the comments dudes an ass tbh

The most likely explanation is he refused to widen your jaw because it's already sufficiently wide

Surgeons avoid patients who make unrealistic demands

 

[Realism]

Eren Pera, got a lot of good results on his IG, he was the only one who was willing to take my complicated case, Ramieri and Erol Cansiz would not.

Keeps things realistic, does big movements when warranted and explains every thing in great detail.

 

[gravlek]

Eren Pera, got a lot of good results on his IG, he was the only one who was willing to take my complicated case, Ramieri and Erol Cansiz would not.

Keeps things realistic, does big movements when warranted and explains every thing in great detail.

Please elab on your complexity

 

[Realism]

Please elab on your complexity

pre existing dental implants and already a good occlusion

 

[gravlek]

pre existing dental implants and already a good occlusion

Aren’t dealing with dental implants kinda his field of expertise tho?

 

[Realism]

Aren’t dealing with dental implants kinda his field of expertise tho?

Yes, that's not relevant though.