Blog post about the history of the moral panic of sex offenders and pedophiles.

[Deleted member 2157]

I think that KostyaRin is a foid

no doubt. only a soyboy infiltrator would argue.

he's probably an infiltrator

this place isn't .co and never will be and I've been known of PSL longer than all of you, go back there to LDAR or kill yourselves

 

[Kevin Logan]

this place isn't .co and never will be and I've been known of PSL longer than all of you, go back there to LDAR or kill yourselves

no

 

[Deleted member 4612]

this place isn't .co and never will be and I've been known of PSL longer than all of you, go back there to LDAR or kill yourselves

JFL @ you thinking you can tell us what to do.

we never said it was .co so stop strawmanning.

and you're clearly an infiltrator, so keep coping

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

whats it with you losers crying about muh pee dough when you dont even know what pedophilia is lmfao

 

[Deleted member 275]

If someone shames you for wanting to date younger women, for example because it's 'abusive/predatory'. Realize that they are calling you an abuser/predator, regardless of whether you are actually dating younger women. They don't even know how you actually treat the women you are dating or whether you are even abusing them, but they still hold that opinion about you.

Idk why you would even socialize at all with people that hold such disgusting opinions about you as a person. Ignorant judgemental cucks.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

If someone shames you for wanting to date younger women, for example because it's 'abusive/predatory'. Realize that they are calling you an abuser/predator, regardless of whether you are actually dating younger women. They don't even know how you actually treat the women you are dating or whether you are even abusing them, but they still hold that opinion about you.

Idk why you would even socialize at all with people that hold such disgusting opinions about you as a person. Ignorant judgemental cucks.

they're like the people long ago who thought black men who date white women were predators

 

[Deleted member 4612]

If someone shames you for wanting to date younger women, for example because it's 'abusive/predatory'. Realize that they are calling you an abuser/predator, regardless of whether you are actually dating younger women. They don't even know how you actually treat the women you are dating or whether you are even abusing them, but they still hold that opinion about you.

Idk why you would even socialize at all with people that hold such disgusting opinions about you as a person. Ignorant judgemental cucks.

they're either brainwashed and/or have a feminst agenda

 

[Kevin Logan]

If the age of consent changes to 30, a lot of men would pretend that 18 - 25 women aren't hot.

 

[Deleted member 2157]

height stops at 14-15.

https://www.rcpch.ac.uk/sites/default/files/Girls_2-18_years_growth_chart.pdf

a few CMs are gained until 17 for girls

many 16 year old girls look like they're in their 20s.

the ones you posted don't look like they're in their 20s

Most of them look pretty childlike here, just one random video from an american city

18 year olds ARE fully developed. they're POST PUBESCENT.

they aren't post pubescent or fully developed because 99% of them are still in puberty if they don't have a developmental disorder

believe me, the percentage of low birth weights premature births etc is NOT THAT HIGHER

I don't believe you and even if it was the case, it's still an increased risk to both the child and mother. This isn't even counting how mentally undeveloped teenage girls are to take care of children, as I've been saying every single post.

even in ancient israel, a 12 year old girl was a woman and a 13 year old boy was a man. in many societies hitting puberty was considered adulthood. and prepubescent children (actual children) were little adults.

the ceremony you are talking about is bar mitzvah/bat mitzvah and it was never considered functional adulthood, it's the age where parents no longer hold responsibility for their children's actions (same thing in the modern western world, more responsibility is put on boys/girls during puberty). People did not marry under 16 in ancient israel, which was a post-neolithic agricultural society anyways where the age of first childbirth was lowered.

you think forcing people to be in high school and refusing to hire them or something if they don't finish college isn't "force"?

16-17 year olds can work in jobs so I have literally no idea what you meant by saying this

we extend adolescence up to 25 and take away their adult rights.

the ''adult rights'' of people above 20 are not taken away

24 year olds having families IS rare now. look it up.

i don't know where you live in the US but I live in a western country and i'd say even the majority of people with young children look like they're in their early-mid 20s. It's not rare at all and isn't anywhere really.

moving the goalpost fallacy much?

I am not

girls finish puberty at 15-17 and boys finish it at 16-17. that's a fact no matter how much it hurts your feelings. various studies have shown this consistently.

Studies don't 'consistently show this', puberty continues to get slower until 19-20 for both genders and I have shown this to you

there is barely a difference between 18 and 23.

Yes there is, and multiple things I have posted along with things you can find easily prove this, both mentally and physically, but also due to social experience

tweet about no nut november, stupid memes, sex memes, etc. they tweet jokes. insult others over political differences

People of any age shitpost and joke around. It's just a thing people do
manchildren are just a separate thing entirely tho

AGE GAPs were very common back then

the graphs you posted prove my point though. 3 years or less is not a big age difference especially considering the average marriage was still in early 20s, and not at 18

age differences weren't rare or stigmatized until the late 20th century.

A 25 year old and an 18 year old was always viewed as weird because it's such a huge developmental difference, especially considering puberty started later back then due to less environmental pollution.

teenagers used to be much more mature.

not really. They were just forced into adult situations more. They still did things associated with teenagers.

many 18 year olds voluntarily choose to join the military. they've been joining for years and nothing bad happened. many suburban teens join the military.

the 'voluntarily' do it due to bad home factors, needing a job (which is basically just poverty in a way tbh) or just teen fanaticism/retardation (same reason a lot of islamist terrorists are teens). Both young males and females get raped in the military which gets covered up along with other things, do you genuinely think nothing bad happens?

what source disproved my last point? look up puberty on wikipedia and read the citations. they finish it at ages 15-17.

The sources on wikipedia aren't correct because they don't correlate with the reality shown by physical growth studies. Even then, the page contains things that prove my point anyways

if age differences in relationships were never healthy, then why did they prosper throughout history

there's two answers to that. The fact that they didn't 'prosper' and just plain rape/force due to many of the living conditions in urban post-neolithic being retarded and insane

also, people in their 20s are super immature too.

I know that, but it's not the same childlike immaturity of teenagers.

the power imbalance is a myth. many young people want a powerful person for protection or financial reasons.

It's not a myth, the thing you are mentioning is the tactic most pedophiles use and why this will never be considered ok in society.

most men DO find teen girls attractive. our biology doesn't respond to laws.

honestly biological factors mean that finding anyone who looks physically mature enough attractive isn't rare at all, but biological urges aren't the best thing. Otherwise, animal-like instincts would work much better than they actually do. It doesn't change anything

 

[Deleted member 2157]

JFL @ you thinking you can tell us what to do.

we never said it was .co so stop strawmanning.

and you're clearly an infiltrator, so keep coping

i can tell you what to do because I am right

you are just an incel who thinks this place needs to agree that fucking kids is okay. i'm not infiltrating anything

 

[Deleted member 2157]

no

the fact is that you will do it regardless of if you want it or not. all you have posted on is the offtopic section and you aren't on this site for looksmaxing or improving at all. You're just a rotter pedophile who will rope in 5 years.

 

[Kevin Logan]

The foid is mad

 

[Deleted member 4612]

the fact is that you will do it regardless of if you want it or not. all you have posted on is the offtopic section and you aren't on this site for looksmaxing or improving at all. You're just a rotter pedophile who will rope in 5 years.

jfl speak for yourself. yeah i spend a lot of time here but i've been getting surgeries and doing other looksmaxxing stuff as well

and keep coping with "pedophile" bullshit definitions

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

https://www.rcpch.ac.uk/sites/default/files/Girls_2-18_years_growth_chart.pdf

a few CMs are gained until 17 for girls

the ones you posted don't look like they're in their 20s

Most of them look pretty childlike here, just one random video from an american city

they aren't post pubescent or fully developed because 99% of them are still in puberty if they don't have a developmental disorder

I don't believe you and even if it was the case, it's still an increased risk to both the child and mother. This isn't even counting how mentally undeveloped teenage girls are to take care of children, as I've been saying every single post.

the ceremony you are talking about is bar mitzvah/bat mitzvah and it was never considered functional adulthood, it's the age where parents no longer hold responsibility for their children's actions (same thing in the modern western world, more responsibility is put on boys/girls during puberty). People did not marry under 16 in ancient israel, which was a post-neolithic agricultural society anyways where the age of first childbirth was lowered.

16-17 year olds can work in jobs so I have literally no idea what you meant by saying this

the ''adult rights'' of people above 20 are not taken away

i don't know where you live in the US but I live in a western country and i'd say even the majority of people with young children look like they're in their early-mid 20s. It's not rare at all and isn't anywhere really.

I am not

Studies don't 'consistently show this', puberty continues to get slower until 19-20 for both genders and I have shown this to you

Yes there is, and multiple things I have posted along with things you can find easily prove this, both mentally and physically, but also due to social experience

People of any age shitpost and joke around. It's just a thing people do
manchildren are just a separate thing entirely tho

the graphs you posted prove my point though. 3 years or less is not a big age difference especially considering the average marriage was still in early 20s, and not at 18

A 25 year old and an 18 year old was always viewed as weird because it's such a huge developmental difference, especially considering puberty started later back then due to less environmental pollution.

not really. They were just forced into adult situations more. They still did things associated with teenagers.

the 'voluntarily' do it due to bad home factors, needing a job (which is basically just poverty in a way tbh) or just teen fanaticism/retardation (same reason a lot of islamist terrorists are teens). Both young males and females get raped in the military which gets covered up along with other things, do you genuinely think nothing bad happens?

The sources on wikipedia aren't correct because they don't correlate with the reality shown by physical growth studies. Even then, the page contains things that prove my point anyways

there's two answers to that. The fact that they didn't 'prosper' and just plain rape/force due to many of the living conditions in urban post-neolithic being retarded and insane

I know that, but it's not the same childlike immaturity of teenagers.

It's not a myth, the thing you are mentioning is the tactic most pedophiles use and why this will never be considered ok in society.

honestly biological factors mean that finding anyone who looks physically mature enough attractive isn't rare at all, but biological urges aren't the best thing. Otherwise, animal-like instincts would work much better than they actually do. It doesn't change anything

1. THEY DO LOOK LIKE THEY'RE IN THEIR 20S. I HAVE SEEN SO MANY WOMEN IN THEIR 20S WHO I INITIALLY THOUGHT WERE HIGH SCHOOLERS. WHY DO YOU THINK THE WORD JAILBAIT EXISTS? just search up truerateme and you'll find chicks in their 20s who look 16-17.

2. OH COME ON THEY DO LOOK THEIR 20S. I AM SHOCKED KNOWING THEY'RE 16

3. again, studies have CONSISTENTLY shown that women finish puberty at 15-17 and men 16-17. LOOK. IT. UP. ON. WIKIPEDIA. IT HAS CITATIONS. REACHING FULL HEIGHT A COUPLE INCHES TALLER DOES NOT EQUAL PUBERTY BEING FINISHED. OTHERWISE IT WOULD SPECIFICALLY SAY WE FINISH PUBERTY AT 20 OR 25 OR SOME SHIT. MOST WOMEN REACH FULL HEIGHT AT 14-15. ONE CM TALLER IS NOTHING

4. the complication risk is only SLIGHTLY higher. SLIGHTLY SLIGHTLY SLIGHTLY. NOT significantly. stop acting like very few give birth to healthy kids. STUDIES SHOW IF THEY GET PRENATAL CARE AND AVOID SMOKING THEY HAVE A HIGH CHANCE OF GIVING BIRTH TO HEALTHY BABIES. FUCKING CHRIST HOW MANY TIMES SHOULD I CLARIFY. i saw with my own eyes it said the percent wasn't much higher. i swear to fucking god.

5. people DID marry under 16 in ancient israel. girls married usually at 12-15 and guys in late teens. look it up.

6. and yes they were considered adult at 12/13. "A Bar or Bat Mitzvah is a coming of age ceremony for Jewish boys and girls when they reach the age of 12 or 13. This ceremony marks the time when a boy or girl becomes a Jewish adult. This means that they are now responsible for their own actions and can decide for themselves how they would like to practice Judaism." in many societies you were adult as soon as you hit puberty. in islam, hitting age 15 or at least reaching puberty before 15 is adult.

7. "On average, the onset of puberty is about 18 months earlier for girls (usually starting around the age of 10 or 11 and lasting until they are 15 to 17) than for boys (who usually begin puberty at about the age of 11 to 12 and complete it by the age of 16 to 17, on average)." quote

8. nope. 30+ year olds don't shitpost nearly as much as teens and 20s year olds do. and also, social experience comes with actions not age. i am a 23 KHHV and i have less experience and maturity than many 18 year olds. i have no license at all and barely have anything in my life.

9. a fair amount of 18/19 year old chicks got married in the 50s 60s. also, 4-10 years was common back then. i know plenty of motherfuckers who married someone 10 years older then.

10. they weren't "forced" into adulthood. they are now "forced" into childhood with compulsory education and being threatened with less job opportunities and shit if they don't go to college. that's why you have 22 year olds acting like teens while 22 year olds long ago became parents and married.

11. nope. 18 and 25 used to be accepted by everyone. age gaps used to be very common. look at ancient greece, old india, etc. it was common as fuck. i know so many elders who had age gap marriages. it used to be more common. the stigma against it didn't exist until like 50 years ago.

12. in the paleolithic age, girls had menarche between 7 and 13. in fact, in medieval middle east it was 12-13.

New Research Shows How Evolution Explains Age Of Puberty

Children aged 10 and 11 are sexually mature, and neither they nor society are suitably prepared for the implications of that. This is the message of Professors Mark Hanson and Peter Gluckman, whose review of the evolution of puberty is published online this week in Trends in Endocrinology and...

www.sciencedaily.com

13. growing in height =/=puberty. Puberty isn't defined by looking like a 40 year old man or being 1 cm taller than you used to. if studies show we finish puberty at 15-17, then we finish it at 15-17. that's what studies show. full stop. you can't move the goalposts by saying "yeah but you have to grow 1 cm taller than you were previously". reaching 1 cm taller isn't part of the criteria of finishing puberty otherwise the sources would say we're postpubescent at 25 or some shit. besides, most sources say we basically reach full height at 16 for men and 14-15 for chicks.

14. pedophiles aren't into protection and financial security. also, i've met many 20s-year olds who act way more immature than many teens i've met. in fact, if we weren't taught this myth that there's a difference between them. you'd realize this.

15. you can't get rid of your attraction to a teen girl when you discover she's underage. we don't work like that. that's like saying married men can stop finding other chicks hot.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

i can tell you what to do because I am right

you are just an incel who thinks this place needs to agree that fucking kids is okay. i'm not infiltrating anything

cope, they are not "kids". you are just relying on propaganda.

and once again you're not the boss of me, so keep coping

 

[Kevin Logan]

the fact is that you will do it regardless of if you want it or not. all you have posted on is the offtopic section and you aren't on this site for looksmaxing or improving at all. You're just a rotter pedophile who will rope in 5 years.

> all my posts here are satirical and aren't related to the actual views or opinions of the person behind this account

God dammit

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

> all my posts here are satirical and aren't related to the actual views or opinions of the person behind this account

God dammit

Whose posts are satirical? Where did you read that?

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Whose posts are satirical? Where did you read that?

its in the agecuck's signature

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

its in the agecuck's signature

I don’t see it

 

[Alexanderr]

Will read.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

I don’t see it

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

View attachment 746989

It also says he doesn’t share any of the views of the other people on this website. So maybe he isn’t trolling and is serious?

 

[Deleted member 4612]

It also says he doesn’t share any of the views of the other people on this website. So maybe he isn’t trolling and is serious?

of course it's a troll

 

[Uglybrazilian]

I'll read it, thanks for sharing this good read OP.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

of course it's a troll

But we all thought it was an agecuck

 

[Deleted member 4612]

But we all thought it was an agecuck

agecucks are often trolls, there is an overlap most of the time

 

[TURBO]

Women used to get married off at a very young age at one point in time, and their husbands would wait until they hit puberty before mating with them. Men of the past were incredibly repilled on the nature of women, and how destructive they are when they have free reign......like they do now.

Giving Women voting rights and access to social media was the worst thing humanity did in the last 2,000 years.

It took women barely 60 years to destroy the world via democracy and voting. Incelism/Mgtow/Escapism/neetdom is the symptom of hypergamy


>generation of men die in WWI
>women get vote
>women become majority electorate
>women institute welfare state
>men pay most taxes over lifetime
>mens taxes support welfare state
>welfare state supports single mothers
>single mothers raise criminals and drug addicts
>spike in crime and druggies
>men die in WWII
>feminism kicks in
>women demand no fault divorce
>state becomes husband
>divorce rates rise
>Men still pay most taxes
>Women receive most tax benefits
>men taxes supporting single mothers and nanny state
>women demand more
>women vote open borders
>women vote diversiy quotas
>women vote antimale pro women legislation
>all supported by mens taxes
>women can't stop themseves
>infrastructure decays
>education decays
>healthcare decays
>economy decays
>relationshps decay
>women double down on feminism
>men lose incentive to support system
>men say fuck off to society
>women shame/blame men for this
>men don't care
>shit society burns out

"According to the National Center for Health Statistics 50 percent of marriages in the United States end in divorce. Of the marriages that end in divorce, 80 percent of the divorces are initiated (filed) by women."

"Belgium & Portugal have the highest rates of divorce in this data set at a staggering 70%"

 

[Deleted member 275]

I don't even know why society pays for women to get educated when it's known they will be unproductive and work part-time. Not contributing jack shit to society and not paying any taxes. Leeches of society.

JFL at this shit. Higher education should be male-only.

 

[Gengar]

this place isn't .co and never will be and I've been known of PSL longer than all of you, go back there to LDAR or kill yourselves

ive lurked on puahate before elliot rodger went er, faggot. youre a newfag compared to me.

 

[Deleted member 2157]

1. THEY DO LOOK LIKE THEY'RE IN THEIR 20S. I HAVE SEEN SO MANY WOMEN IN THEIR 20S WHO I INITIALLY THOUGHT WERE HIGH SCHOOLERS. WHY DO YOU THINK THE WORD JAILBAIT EXISTS? just search up truerateme and you'll find chicks in their 20s who look 16-17.

2. OH COME ON THEY DO LOOK THEIR 20S. I AM SHOCKED KNOWING THEY'RE 16

3. again, studies have CONSISTENTLY shown that women finish puberty at 15-17 and men 16-17. LOOK. IT. UP. ON. WIKIPEDIA. IT HAS CITATIONS. REACHING FULL HEIGHT A COUPLE INCHES TALLER DOES NOT EQUAL PUBERTY BEING FINISHED. OTHERWISE IT WOULD SPECIFICALLY SAY WE FINISH PUBERTY AT 20 OR 25 OR SOME SHIT. MOST WOMEN REACH FULL HEIGHT AT 14-15. ONE CM TALLER IS NOTHING

4. the complication risk is only SLIGHTLY higher. SLIGHTLY SLIGHTLY SLIGHTLY. NOT significantly. stop acting like very few give birth to healthy kids. STUDIES SHOW IF THEY GET PRENATAL CARE AND AVOID SMOKING THEY HAVE A HIGH CHANCE OF GIVING BIRTH TO HEALTHY BABIES. FUCKING CHRIST HOW MANY TIMES SHOULD I CLARIFY. i saw with my own eyes it said the percent wasn't much higher. i swear to fucking god.

5. people DID marry under 16 in ancient israel. girls married usually at 12-15 and guys in late teens. look it up.

6. and yes they were considered adult at 12/13. "A Bar or Bat Mitzvah is a coming of age ceremony for Jewish boys and girls when they reach the age of 12 or 13. This ceremony marks the time when a boy or girl becomes a Jewish adult. This means that they are now responsible for their own actions and can decide for themselves how they would like to practice Judaism." in many societies you were adult as soon as you hit puberty. in islam, hitting age 15 or at least reaching puberty before 15 is adult.

7. "On average, the onset of puberty is about 18 months earlier for girls (usually starting around the age of 10 or 11 and lasting until they are 15 to 17) than for boys (who usually begin puberty at about the age of 11 to 12 and complete it by the age of 16 to 17, on average)." quote

8. nope. 30+ year olds don't shitpost nearly as much as teens and 20s year olds do. and also, social experience comes with actions not age. i am a 23 KHHV and i have less experience and maturity than many 18 year olds. i have no license at all and barely have anything in my life.

9. a fair amount of 18/19 year old chicks got married in the 50s 60s. also, 4-10 years was common back then. i know plenty of motherfuckers who married someone 10 years older then.

10. they weren't "forced" into adulthood. they are now "forced" into childhood with compulsory education and being threatened with less job opportunities and shit if they don't go to college. that's why you have 22 year olds acting like teens while 22 year olds long ago became parents and married.

11. nope. 18 and 25 used to be accepted by everyone. age gaps used to be very common. look at ancient greece, old india, etc. it was common as fuck. i know so many elders who had age gap marriages. it used to be more common. the stigma against it didn't exist until like 50 years ago.

12. in the paleolithic age, girls had menarche between 7 and 13. in fact, in medieval middle east it was 12-13.

New Research Shows How Evolution Explains Age Of Puberty

Children aged 10 and 11 are sexually mature, and neither they nor society are suitably prepared for the implications of that. This is the message of Professors Mark Hanson and Peter Gluckman, whose review of the evolution of puberty is published online this week in Trends in Endocrinology and...

www.sciencedaily.com

13. growing in height =/=puberty. Puberty isn't defined by looking like a 40 year old man or being 1 cm taller than you used to. if studies show we finish puberty at 15-17, then we finish it at 15-17. that's what studies show. full stop. you can't move the goalposts by saying "yeah but you have to grow 1 cm taller than you were previously". reaching 1 cm taller isn't part of the criteria of finishing puberty otherwise the sources would say we're postpubescent at 25 or some shit. besides, most sources say we basically reach full height at 16 for men and 14-15 for chicks.

14. pedophiles aren't into protection and financial security. also, i've met many 20s-year olds who act way more immature than many teens i've met. in fact, if we weren't taught this myth that there's a difference between them. you'd realize this.

15. you can't get rid of your attraction to a teen girl when you discover she's underage. we don't work like that. that's like saying married men can stop finding other chicks hot.

you need to calm down with the full caps

1. women in their 20s can look young but they're mentally adults and developed. No idea why you can't get this.

2. They look and act like teenagers

3. They don't finish puberty by then and I've shown you this. They aren't close to almost finished until about 20 for both genders, males a bit more. The wikipedia is wrong and makes no sense, neither do the sources. They don't correlate with mental or physical growth. Most women are not the same height they were at 15 and I've showed you this too.

4. It's not slightly higher, it's higher by a significant margin even with what you quoted. Even if the kids were healthy the same level as adult women (they weren't) the mothers are children themselves and aren't mentally developed remotely enough to be healthy parents.

5. There's literally no evidence of that, you just pulled it out of nowhere. Teenagers did most likely get married at 15+ though to other teenagers.

6. You didn't read what you pasted.

means that they are now responsible for their own actions and can decide for themselves how they would like to practice Judaism.

This does not relate to sexual activities or age of consent/marriage at all, it's the same in the modern western world. 13-14 year olds are more responsible for their actions than they were ever before. Islam is noted to be pedophiliac (most likely due to the barren poverty and state of the desert it originated from) in comparison to even other abrahamic religions.

7. Okay so you posted something that affirms my point saying that it's 11-12 for both sexes. Neither of them have puberties completed at 17.

8. They can, there's 30+ year olds with a family and children that still shitpost online. It's more related to individual personality traits than immaturity itself. Nothing is obligating them not to. And your social maturation is just slowed/retarded, so your desire for immature teenage girls is predictable in that aspect, but there's many socially immature adult women for you anyways. Stop wanting to fuck children.

9. They did, to people their age or like 2 years older. Even then marriage at 18 wasn't the norm at all. At 21-22 maybe. It wasn't common back then and the graph you posted proves this, but even then it was just women in their 20s with men in their 30s and not with teenagers almost always.

10. They're not ''forced'' into childhood, it's their natural state. Education isn't really compulsory as high school dropouts are common and many older teens work in jobs, usually under their parents or uncles etc. Everyone is threatened with less job opportunities now, it is just due to population and economics. 22 year olds having children is not rare anywhere, but they still act a bit like teenagers even with them. They are still young.

11. No it didn't used to be accepted by everyone and you have no source for that, because it's not true. It was forced, basically rape. Ancient greece age gaps were mostly teenage boys with grown men. The elders in those marriages still married women who were in their 20s.

12. This point doesn't matter as they state themselves that they menstruate far before they're anywhere close to being mentally mature enough to even talk about sexual things, and as I've shown you before women didn't have children until 19-20 then. It's a well known fact that the starting point of puberty has been getting younger and younger due to environmental pollution (it was 12 on average in the paleolithic era).

Why More Kids Are Starting Puberty Earlier Than Ever Before

The age of puberty is dropping, and that pitches children into experiences they are unequipped for. But even after their brains catch up to their bodies, the early mismatch may alter their lives.

www.psychologytoday.com

13. Growing in height is puberty. Studies clearly show that it finishes later than 17 for everyone. Since people almost always grow beyond 16, almost 100% of the time for men then people do not reach their adult height at 16.

14. You misunderstood me, they're into using that tactic of younger people wanting protection and security to be predatory and manipulative. It's not a myth as it's been seen always. That's why age in years exists as a counter rather than having it as periods.

15. Again you don't understand me. Instincts aren't foolproof and aren't meant to be followed blindly in any way, if that was the case humans would be much lesser in number due to more deaths happening. The brain works how the brain works.

 

[Deleted member 2157]

ive lurked on puahate before elliot rodger went er, faggot. youre a newfag compared to me.

dont care keep on LDARing

It also says he doesn’t share any of the views of the other people on this website. So maybe he isn’t trolling and is serious?

of course it's a troll

I don't share any of the social views of people here at all. I hate the pedophile shit and misogyny that infests this place

 

[Gengar]

dont care keep on LDARing


I don't share any of the social views of people here at all. I hate the pedophile shit and misogyny that infests this place

you care enough to cry about it. keep being soy elsewhere, faggot

 

[Deleted member 4612]

dont care keep on LDARing


I don't share any of the social views of people here at all. I hate the pedophile shit and misogyny that infests this place

fucking bluepilled cuck. "oh misogyny"

you care enough to cry about it. keep being soy elsewhere, faggot

exactly, he says "i don't care" yet he does

i find that whenever someone posts "no one cares", a decent amount of people actually do, and the person who posts "no one cares" has a certain opposition to the topic being discussed, implying even they care themselves.

 

[Deleted member 2157]

keep being soy elsewhere

you estrogen mog everyone

fucking bluepilled cuck

lmao

 

[Kevin Logan]

you need to calm down with the full caps

1. women in their 20s can look young but they're mentally adults and developed. No idea why you can't get this.

2. They look and act like teenagers

3. They don't finish puberty by then and I've shown you this. They aren't close to almost finished until about 20 for both genders, males a bit more. The wikipedia is wrong and makes no sense, neither do the sources. They don't correlate with mental or physical growth. Most women are not the same height they were at 15 and I've showed you this too.

4. It's not slightly higher, it's higher by a significant margin even with what you quoted. Even if the kids were healthy the same level as adult women (they weren't) the mothers are children themselves and aren't mentally developed remotely enough to be healthy parents.

5. There's literally no evidence of that, you just pulled it out of nowhere. Teenagers did most likely get married at 15+ though to other teenagers.

6. You didn't read what you pasted.

This does not relate to sexual activities or age of consent/marriage at all, it's the same in the modern western world. 13-14 year olds are more responsible for their actions than they were ever before. Islam is noted to be pedophiliac (most likely due to the barren poverty and state of the desert it originated from) in comparison to even other abrahamic religions.

7. Okay so you posted something that affirms my point saying that it's 11-12 for both sexes. Neither of them have puberties completed at 17.

8. They can, there's 30+ year olds with a family and children that still shitpost online. It's more related to individual personality traits than immaturity itself. Nothing is obligating them not to. And your social maturation is just slowed/retarded, so your desire for immature teenage girls is predictable in that aspect, but there's many socially immature adult women for you anyways. Stop wanting to fuck children.

9. They did, to people their age or like 2 years older. Even then marriage at 18 wasn't the norm at all. At 21-22 maybe. It wasn't common back then and the graph you posted proves this, but even then it was just women in their 20s with men in their 30s and not with teenagers almost always.

10. They're not ''forced'' into childhood, it's their natural state. Education isn't really compulsory as high school dropouts are common and many older teens work in jobs, usually under their parents or uncles etc. Everyone is threatened with less job opportunities now, it is just due to population and economics. 22 year olds having children is not rare anywhere, but they still act a bit like teenagers even with them. They are still young.

11. No it didn't used to be accepted by everyone and you have no source for that, because it's not true. It was forced, basically rape. Ancient greece age gaps were mostly teenage boys with grown men. The elders in those marriages still married women who were in their 20s.

12. This point doesn't matter as they state themselves that they menstruate far before they're anywhere close to being mentally mature enough to even talk about sexual things, and as I've shown you before women didn't have children until 19-20 then. It's a well known fact that the starting point of puberty has been getting younger and younger due to environmental pollution (it was 12 on average in the paleolithic era).

Why More Kids Are Starting Puberty Earlier Than Ever Before

The age of puberty is dropping, and that pitches children into experiences they are unequipped for. But even after their brains catch up to their bodies, the early mismatch may alter their lives.

www.psychologytoday.com

13. Growing in height is puberty. Studies clearly show that it finishes later than 17 for everyone. Since people almost always grow beyond 16, almost 100% of the time for men then people do not reach their adult height at 16.

14. You misunderstood me, they're into using that tactic of younger people wanting protection and security to be predatory and manipulative. It's not a myth as it's been seen always. That's why age in years exists as a counter rather than having it as periods.

15. Again you don't understand me. Instincts aren't foolproof and aren't meant to be followed blindly in any way, if that was the case humans would be much lesser in number due to more deaths happening. The brain works how the brain works.

Didn't read it!

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

you need to calm down with the full caps

1. women in their 20s can look young but they're mentally adults and developed. No idea why you can't get this.

2. They look and act like teenagers

3. They don't finish puberty by then and I've shown you this. They aren't close to almost finished until about 20 for both genders, males a bit more. The wikipedia is wrong and makes no sense, neither do the sources. They don't correlate with mental or physical growth. Most women are not the same height they were at 15 and I've showed you this too.

4. It's not slightly higher, it's higher by a significant margin even with what you quoted. Even if the kids were healthy the same level as adult women (they weren't) the mothers are children themselves and aren't mentally developed remotely enough to be healthy parents.

5. There's literally no evidence of that, you just pulled it out of nowhere. Teenagers did most likely get married at 15+ though to other teenagers.

6. You didn't read what you pasted.

This does not relate to sexual activities or age of consent/marriage at all, it's the same in the modern western world. 13-14 year olds are more responsible for their actions than they were ever before. Islam is noted to be pedophiliac (most likely due to the barren poverty and state of the desert it originated from) in comparison to even other abrahamic religions.

7. Okay so you posted something that affirms my point saying that it's 11-12 for both sexes. Neither of them have puberties completed at 17.

8. They can, there's 30+ year olds with a family and children that still shitpost online. It's more related to individual personality traits than immaturity itself. Nothing is obligating them not to. And your social maturation is just slowed/retarded, so your desire for immature teenage girls is predictable in that aspect, but there's many socially immature adult women for you anyways. Stop wanting to fuck children.

9. They did, to people their age or like 2 years older. Even then marriage at 18 wasn't the norm at all. At 21-22 maybe. It wasn't common back then and the graph you posted proves this, but even then it was just women in their 20s with men in their 30s and not with teenagers almost always.

10. They're not ''forced'' into childhood, it's their natural state. Education isn't really compulsory as high school dropouts are common and many older teens work in jobs, usually under their parents or uncles etc. Everyone is threatened with less job opportunities now, it is just due to population and economics. 22 year olds having children is not rare anywhere, but they still act a bit like teenagers even with them. They are still young.

11. No it didn't used to be accepted by everyone and you have no source for that, because it's not true. It was forced, basically rape. Ancient greece age gaps were mostly teenage boys with grown men. The elders in those marriages still married women who were in their 20s.

12. This point doesn't matter as they state themselves that they menstruate far before they're anywhere close to being mentally mature enough to even talk about sexual things, and as I've shown you before women didn't have children until 19-20 then. It's a well known fact that the starting point of puberty has been getting younger and younger due to environmental pollution (it was 12 on average in the paleolithic era).

Why More Kids Are Starting Puberty Earlier Than Ever Before

The age of puberty is dropping, and that pitches children into experiences they are unequipped for. But even after their brains catch up to their bodies, the early mismatch may alter their lives.

www.psychologytoday.com

13. Growing in height is puberty. Studies clearly show that it finishes later than 17 for everyone. Since people almost always grow beyond 16, almost 100% of the time for men then people do not reach their adult height at 16.

14. You misunderstood me, they're into using that tactic of younger people wanting protection and security to be predatory and manipulative. It's not a myth as it's been seen always. That's why age in years exists as a counter rather than having it as periods.

15. Again you don't understand me. Instincts aren't foolproof and aren't meant to be followed blindly in any way, if that was the case humans would be much lesser in number due to more deaths happening. The brain works how the brain works.

1. i've seen many people in their 20s who act like teens. its' omnipresent nowadays. go to any 23 year old's twitter or something and it's all shit that some teenager will like. not productive stuff about jobs and shit like some 40 year olds' twitter.

2. nope. that video they looked in their 20s.

3. if the citations wikipedia cited (which i read) say that puberty is done at 15-17, then it's done at 15-17. puberty isn't all about being 100% grown, otherwise we aren't done with puberty until 30. there are many grown traits a 30 year old has that a 22 year old doesn't. studies show it ends at 15-17, thus it ends at 15-17. you can't move the goalposts and say "yeah but according to my definition it has to be at 25 because muh 1 addition centimeter, muh jawbone" the sources prevail over what you say

4. nope. it's only slightly higher. i read the data. it's only like 14% or some shit. i think for late teens only 11% or something. it's a tiny percent. and again, if they access prenatal care and avoid smoking and shit they usually give birth to healthy babies. i've clarified this multiple times.

5. yes they did. i've looked up about ancient israel. look it up on google. teen brides were common. sometimes they married men a couple years older, sometimes much older. depends on the era and region.

6. the social construct of adulthood varies. in some medieval societies, men were considered men as long as they went to war and women were considered adults if they had menarche. in some other eras, they had other rules about being an adult. in medieval times, childhood didn't exist. they were just called little adults.

7. 10 or 11 for girls. 11 or 12 for boys on average. and everyone is done with puberty at 17 (except boys who start puberty super late, they finish usually at 18).

8. it's very rare for 30+ year olds to shitpost. 99% of shitposters i've seen online are in their teens or 20s. also, i don't want an 18 year old because of maturity. i want one because they have more time to stay youthful looking and i never got experience love yet and because it can help me relive the college years i never got to experience. it's like a cougar who dates young men to feel young again.

9. actually, in the 50s/60s. about 32% of 18/19 year old women are married compared to only below 10% for 18/19 year old men based on what i remember reading. so they usually married a guy in his 20s. also, it shows that many marriages were 4-10 years apart in age difference.

10. it IS forced. you think any high school teen wants to live with his parents and have his parents restrict his behavior? teens like their independence. that's why many are excited for college and rebel against their parents. even elementary school kids hate school. they ARE forced to be this way. also, high school is pretty much mandatory. we have a system that oppresses high school dropouts and those who don't finish college. we're taught to go to college and finish it. if any 18 year old lived in another society, they wouldn't attend college because they weren't told to do so.

11. it WAS accepted. the graph shows a considerable percentage of age differences back in the early-mid 20th century were 4-10 years apart. and the average age gap was 3-4 years. also, pederasty wasn't the only thing that occurred then. just because pederasty happened in ancient greece, doesn't mean heterosexual marriage didn't either. the two aren't mutually exclusive. also, ancient greek men married usually in their late 20s/early 30s and girls did at usually 14. look it up. boys usually experienced pederasty in their teen years, then went to war later on and married at around 30 to a 14 year old girl.

12. i never did 7-13 year olds should have sex. red herring much? also, the source you showed said hunter gatherers made babies at average age of 19, not 19-20. also, the paleolithic menarche age was between 7 and 13 (one source says usually 10).

13. growing height is part of puberty true. but at 16, men have 99% of the height completed which is sufficient. facial hair growth is also part of puberty, but just because a 32 year old man could grow more facial hair than he could at 23 doesn't mean he wasn't post-pubescent at 23.

14. nope. child molesters (not to be confused with statutory rapists) tend to molest children due to things like involuntary celibacy (they can't find a relationship so they pick a 5 year old as substitute because little kids don't know what sex is, unlike teenagers FYI), stress, curiosity, etc. Some do it because they get off on the taboo nature of molesting children. Men who date underage teens, however, are usually into opportunity and shit.

15. finding out they're underage might prevent you from acting on it, but you'll still find them sexually attractive. finding other women hot as a married man might prevent you from cheating but you'll still find other women hot.

 

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1. i've seen many people in their 20s who act like teens. its' omnipresent nowadays. go to any 23 year old's twitter or something and it's all shit that some teenager will like. not productive stuff about jobs and shit like some 40 year olds' twitter.

2. nope. that video they looked in their 20s.

3. if the citations wikipedia cited (which i read) say that puberty is done at 15-17, then it's done at 15-17. puberty isn't all about being 100% grown, otherwise we aren't done with puberty until 30. there are many grown traits a 30 year old has that a 22 year old doesn't. studies show it ends at 15-17, thus it ends at 15-17. you can't move the goalposts and say "yeah but according to my definition it has to be at 25 because muh 1 addition centimeter, muh jawbone" the sources prevail over what you say

4. nope. it's only slightly higher. i read the data. it's only like 14% or some shit. i think for late teens only 11% or something. it's a tiny percent. and again, if they access prenatal care and avoid smoking and shit they usually give birth to healthy babies. i've clarified this multiple times.

5. yes they did. i've looked up about ancient israel. look it up on google. teen brides were common. sometimes they married men a couple years older, sometimes much older. depends on the era and region.

6. the social construct of adulthood varies. in some medieval societies, men were considered men as long as they went to war and women were considered adults if they had menarche. in some other eras, they had other rules about being an adult. in medieval times, childhood didn't exist. they were just called little adults.

7. 10 or 11 for girls. 11 or 12 for boys on average. and everyone is done with puberty at 17 (except boys who start puberty super late, they finish usually at 18).

8. it's very rare for 30+ year olds to shitpost. 99% of shitposters i've seen online are in their teens or 20s. also, i don't want an 18 year old because of maturity. i want one because they have more time to stay youthful looking and i never got experience love yet and because it can help me relive the college years i never got to experience. it's like a cougar who dates young men to feel young again.

9. actually, in the 50s/60s. about 32% of 18/19 year old women are married compared to only below 10% for 18/19 year old men based on what i remember reading. so they usually married a guy in his 20s. also, it shows that many marriages were 4-10 years apart in age difference.

10. it IS forced. you think any high school teen wants to live with his parents and have his parents restrict his behavior? teens like their independence. that's why many are excited for college and rebel against their parents. even elementary school kids hate school. they ARE forced to be this way. also, high school is pretty much mandatory. we have a system that oppresses high school dropouts and those who don't finish college. we're taught to go to college and finish it. if any 18 year old lived in another society, they wouldn't attend college because they weren't told to do so.

11. it WAS accepted. the graph shows a considerable percentage of age differences back in the early-mid 20th century were 4-10 years apart. and the average age gap was 3-4 years. also, pederasty wasn't the only thing that occurred then. just because pederasty happened in ancient greece, doesn't mean heterosexual marriage didn't either. the two aren't mutually exclusive. also, ancient greek men married usually in their late 20s/early 30s and girls did at usually 14. look it up. boys usually experienced pederasty in their teen years, then went to war later on and married at around 30 to a 14 year old girl.

12. i never did 7-13 year olds should have sex. red herring much? also, the source you showed said hunter gatherers made babies at average age of 19, not 19-20. also, the paleolithic menarche age was between 7 and 13 (one source says usually 10).

13. growing height is part of puberty true. but at 16, men have 99% of the height completed which is sufficient. facial hair growth is also part of puberty, but just because a 32 year old man could grow more facial hair than he could at 23 doesn't mean he wasn't post-pubescent at 23.

14. nope. child molesters (not to be confused with statutory rapists) tend to molest children due to things like involuntary celibacy (they can't find a relationship so they pick a 5 year old as substitute because little kids don't know what sex is, unlike teenagers FYI), stress, curiosity, etc. Some do it because they get off on the taboo nature of molesting children. Men who date underage teens, however, are usually into opportunity and shit.

15. finding out they're underage might prevent you from acting on it, but you'll still find them sexually attractive. finding other women hot as a married man might prevent you from cheating but you'll still find other women hot.

1. people in their 20s are still youthful and they weren't teenagers long ago so of course they're going to act more like that. 40s have way more on their mind, more responsibilities but people in their 40s still have enjoyment obviously

2. they didn't, almost all of them have roundish babyfaces. They look very young

3. That's not how it works, it being on wikipedia doesn't mean it's instantly correct. The sources don't explain this view at all and obviously just mean the most of puberty, it's from google books jfl.

and finally menarche (the onset of menses), which usually occurs around age 12 or 13.

Literally contradicts itself. The fact is that it's not close to done until 20 for either sex and every source I posted shows this. I never said it has to be 25-30 anywhere.

4. you haven't linked the data. The point doesn't matter because it's still more dangerous for both the baby and mother and again, the mother is a child herself and can't take care of a baby correctly. People giving birth under 18 is almost always bad.

5. I looked it up and the other things that state they got married at 14 are things that state they married other teenagers. Nothing states they married adult men.

6. It's a social construct modelled after biological reality. In most medieval societies life was expected to be short and most people had very little options and thus people cared about development and childhood less. But even back then they knew that children were children. They just didn't care. It was a horrible time of poverty in all periods where fucking 13 year olds was remotely common

7. They start it at 10 rarely and even rarer before. It's 11 for girls and 11-12 or even 13 for boys. stop repeating that since i've already proved it wrong, it just looks like you have nothing else to latch onto as reasoning, physical growth (puberty) continues above 17 for both genders and doesn't come close to stopping until 20, even a bit further for men.

8. because teenagers and people who are in their 20s grew up using the internet more so are more familiar with it. there's loads of 30 year olds online still. you know 30 year old women still look youthful almost always right? a large amount of people never got to experience college years. just go for 20-22 year old women if you are really bothered by this feeling and don't bother teenagers who aren't developed

9. i need to read that for myself because things I've read before say a very similar amount of boys got married. 18-19 year olds can't be men or women. it doesn't show that ''many'' were, just more than now. even then, it was almost always women who were in their 20s.

10. again you misunderstood what I meant. i'm later high school age now and nobody wants to be held back or restricted by their parents, but most people don't want to live by themselves at this age because we're not prepared enough now. schools tend to be hated due to the awful state of schools and teachers, but high school tends to be encouraged and even mandatory for the children's wellbeing, socialization included. high school dropouts are more common now because the situation in schools is more understood. they're not really oppressed.

11. a higher percentage than now but not close to the majority. Also, the great depression occurred all over the world then, so conditions weren't even much less poverty struck than those in the 1800s and I've already explained how this leads to children being forced in adult roles, thus childbirth too early becoming common. It doesn't say anywhere that the average was 3-4 years apart.
Here's a page with sources for ancient greece http://webpage.pace.edu/nreagin/tempmotherhood/spring2002h/Motherhood_in_Ancient_Greece.htm
It directly says that menarche happened at 14 and that girls married after 14, but nowhere does it say they married to adult men. I can find sources that say men in their 20s married girls in their later teens, but that makes sense considering that greek was an agricultural post neolithic society that got mass raided and defeated anyways.
They all married early and had to mass produce 6+ children because many were expected to die unlike the pastoralists in the steppe more northwards. It's a sign of being a depraved diseased shithole like always. Males still married at 19 or so often then.

12. you never said it directly but you implied experiencing menarche could ever be an actual sign of adulthood. It did say 19-20 years old. No source I could find says 10 and it definitely almost never occurred before 10-11, but even if so multiple hunter gatherer societies seclude/secluded girls at puberty where adult women would start teaching them

Seclusion of girls at puberty - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

13. Boys have not completed 99% of their height growth by 16 at all, most boys grow 2-3 inches more as I've shown you. Boys starting to grow facial and body hair isn't them becoming adults.

14. Child molester and statutory rapist are synonyms. The mental illness develops in multiple ways. Dating an underage teen is pedophilia because they're not anywhere close to developed, i can say it 10 more times if you want

15. the brain's instincts won't be followed there. The second part is true for women as well, but still the body wont be followed and trusted

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

1. people in their 20s are still youthful and they weren't teenagers long ago so of course they're going to act more like that. 40s have way more on their mind, more responsibilities but people in their 40s still have enjoyment obviously

2. they didn't, almost all of them have roundish babyfaces. They look very young

3. That's not how it works, it being on wikipedia doesn't mean it's instantly correct. The sources don't explain this view at all and obviously just mean the most of puberty, it's from google books jfl.

Literally contradicts itself. The fact is that it's not close to done until 20 for either sex and every source I posted shows this. I never said it has to be 25-30 anywhere.

4. you haven't linked the data. The point doesn't matter because it's still more dangerous for both the baby and mother and again, the mother is a child herself and can't take care of a baby correctly. People giving birth under 18 is almost always bad.

5. I looked it up and the other things that state they got married at 14 are things that state they married other teenagers. Nothing states they married adult men.

6. It's a social construct modelled after biological reality. In most medieval societies life was expected to be short and most people had very little options and thus people cared about development and childhood less. But even back then they knew that children were children. They just didn't care. It was a horrible time of poverty in all periods where fucking 13 year olds was remotely common

7. They start it at 10 rarely and even rarer before. It's 11 for girls and 11-12 or even 13 for boys. stop repeating that since i've already proved it wrong, it just looks like you have nothing else to latch onto as reasoning, physical growth (puberty) continues above 17 for both genders and doesn't come close to stopping until 20, even a bit further for men.

8. because teenagers and people who are in their 20s grew up using the internet more so are more familiar with it. there's loads of 30 year olds online still. you know 30 year old women still look youthful almost always right? a large amount of people never got to experience college years. just go for 20-22 year old women if you are really bothered by this feeling and don't bother teenagers who aren't developed

9. i need to read that for myself because things I've read before say a very similar amount of boys got married. 18-19 year olds can't be men or women. it doesn't show that ''many'' were, just more than now. even then, it was almost always women who were in their 20s.

10. again you misunderstood what I meant. i'm later high school age now and nobody wants to be held back or restricted by their parents, but most people don't want to live by themselves at this age because we're not prepared enough now. schools tend to be hated due to the awful state of schools and teachers, but high school tends to be encouraged and even mandatory for the children's wellbeing, socialization included. high school dropouts are more common now because the situation in schools is more understood. they're not really oppressed.

11. a higher percentage than now but not close to the majority. Also, the great depression occurred all over the world then, so conditions weren't even much less poverty struck than those in the 1800s and I've already explained how this leads to children being forced in adult roles, thus childbirth too early becoming common. It doesn't say anywhere that the average was 3-4 years apart.
Here's a page with sources for ancient greece http://webpage.pace.edu/nreagin/tempmotherhood/spring2002h/Motherhood_in_Ancient_Greece.htm
It directly says that menarche happened at 14 and that girls married after 14, but nowhere does it say they married to adult men. I can find sources that say men in their 20s married girls in their later teens, but that makes sense considering that greek was an agricultural post neolithic society that got mass raided and defeated anyways.
They all married early and had to mass produce 6+ children because many were expected to die unlike the pastoralists in the steppe more northwards. It's a sign of being a depraved diseased shithole like always. Males still married at 19 or so often then.

12. you never said it directly but you implied experiencing menarche could ever be an actual sign of adulthood. It did say 19-20 years old. No source I could find says 10 and it definitely almost never occurred before 10-11, but even if so multiple hunter gatherer societies seclude/secluded girls at puberty where adult women would start teaching them

Seclusion of girls at puberty - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

13. Boys have not completed 99% of their height growth by 16 at all, most boys grow 2-3 inches more as I've shown you. Boys starting to grow facial and body hair isn't them becoming adults.

14. Child molester and statutory rapist are synonyms. The mental illness develops in multiple ways. Dating an underage teen is pedophilia because they're not anywhere close to developed, i can say it 10 more times if you want

15. the brain's instincts won't be followed there. The second part is true for women as well, but still the body wont be followed and trusted

1. people in their 20s in the 1950s got married and kids, now they don't do that until their 30s. that's why back then, MLK was in his 20s and acted mature while today's 20 year old activists just spend time on twitter cussing people out and verbally abusing those who disagree with them. we extended adolescence up higher than ever before. so people are growing up slowly now

2. are you kidding me? i was shocked when i found out they're teens. if i told you they were in their 20s you would've believed me. the fact you realized they're teenagers gives you the illusion that they somehow look younger.

3. nope. the source SPECIFICALLY SAYS we finish it at ages 15-17. nope. the sources never said 20. 1 addition centimeter in height is NOT defined as the end of puberty. otherwise sources would've said we finished it 20 or 25. if you can cum, have pubes, grow facial hair, reached 99% of your height, have a deeper voice, etc. you're post-pubescent. if every single source i ever came across says that we finish puberty at 15-17, then we finished it at 15-17. you can't move the goalposts and say "but these sources are false" because they don't fit your personal no true scotsman definition of puberty. none of the sources you said clarfied that we finish it at 20. 1 additional cm does NOT equal finishing puberty. also, google books is an archive website that shows very reliable books. it shows any book. fictional books. fantasy books. info books etc. it's a good source that shows a simple archive of other sources

4. women in their 30s have a higher risk. but that doesn't mean its dangerous. if its only slightly higher. (which i promise and swear on my life i read that), then it's safe. also, many chicks in their early 20s couldn't handle raising a child. it isn't inherent in them. they are infantilized so much these days that now they can't act mature until 30. in the old days, any 20 year old was mature enough to be mother. even a 16 year old too.

5. false. in ancient israel, girls usually married somewhere at age 12-16 and around 16-24 (usually 18-20) for men. in some societies like ancient egypt, girls married at age 12-15 and boys at 15-20. it depends on the society. in some, they married much older men.

6. nope. if it was based on biology, why would prepubescent children be called "little adults"? also, the fact that they had to be raised quick is irrelevant. the point is that childhood wasn't considered existent back then. and some socieities had their own definition of adulthood different from our society.

7. nope. plenty of girls start it at 10. in fact, black girls often start sometimes at 8 or 9.

8. people in their 30s also grew up with internet too. the internet already was popular in the late 1990s. and in the early 2000s continued that way. anyone in their early-mid 30s used the internet in the 90s and the entire 2000s. also, most 30+ year olds online usually use the internet for productive reasons, not for shitposting. and no, 30 year old women don't look youthful. their skin is rougher, the edges on their face are less soft, and their bone structure is stronger. and so what if some people didn't experience fun in college? some people experience starving or poverty or depression but that doesn't mean it's ok. and so what if a 23 year old fucks an 18 year old? it's completely fine and normal.

9. like i said, a fair amount were 18/19 year old women. only a small percent of 18/19 year old men were married while like 32% of 18/19 year old women were married. they usually married a guy in his 20s.

10. yes many teens do want to live on their own. if we allowed them to, they'd all be excited. why do you think high schoolers graduating often are excited for college? because they can live on their own and move out. and also, high schools prevent us from hanging out with older people and therefore we aren't able to grow up and adjust to adulthood. so putting us all in the same building of exclusively our age doesn't help.

11. "The groom was usually in his early 30s, whereas the young bride was half his age." from your source. also, ancient greece men didn't marry at 19. they married in their early 30s. the only exception was sparta where women married at 18-20 and usually married men close to their age. in the rest of ancient greece, women were about 14 and married twice their age. also, if you look up average age gap in american history it used to be like 3-4 years apart. and also, the graph shows the percent that was 4-10 years was much higher and was actually quite big. it wasn't even remotely unusual.

12. nope. the source you shared said 19, not 19-20 and even if it said 19-20, it still included 19. and this is average which implies some may have been 18 possibly even 17. "Among hunter-gatherers teen-agers are often sexually active, but age at first birth averages around 19" it says. also, the idea that before 10 could've never happened is a logical fallacy called argument from incredulity. the sources say menarche happened between 7 and 13 years. one source i found said usually 10 (but it wasn't a professional source but may have read more of the science paper). the science paper said between 7 and 13. also, menarche is a sign of adolescence not adulthood. menarche happens in the mid-stages of puberty.

13. doesn't matter. not every boy continues growing in height after 16 or even 18. some might. but many don't. at 16 they completed the vast majority of their height. hell, the consensus among most sources says it finishes at 16. look it up. also, growing facial hair and body hair IS a sign of becoming an adult.

14. nope. they aren't synoynyms. look up the difference between the two. child molestation is formally defined as sexual activity with someone below the age of puberty. a minor past the age of puberty is statutory rape. in fact, definitions of child sexual abuse (excluding legal ones because legal ones might vary) define child molestation as a victim below 14. also, mental illnesses aren't activities. child molestation and statutory rape aren't mental illnesses, they're activities. and no, dating an underage teen isn't pedophilia. it isn't even necessarily ephebophilia either. Pedophilia and ephebophilia are sexual attractions to specific age groups, not an action.

15. idk what you are meaning by that but finding out they're underage doesn't mean you no longer find them hot.

 

[Kevin Logan]

This shit is still going!?

 

[Deleted member 4612]

This shit is still going!?

apparently.

mods should just ban @KostyaRin

 

[Deleted member 2214]

@personalityinkwell How old are you? Is it totally over for you?

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

@personalityinkwell How old are you? Is it totally over for you?

He’s 25

 

[Deleted member 2214]

He’s 25

Its most likely over

 

[Deleted member 419]

Agecucks are male feminists and should be banned from everywhere.

 

[Deleted member 6400]

If someone shames you for wanting to date younger women, for example because it's 'abusive/predatory'. Realize that they are calling you an abuser/predator, regardless of whether you are actually dating younger women. They don't even know how you actually treat the women you are dating or whether you are even abusing them, but they still hold that opinion about you.

Idk why you would even socialize at all with people that hold such disgusting opinions about you as a person. Ignorant judgemental cucks.

 

[sytyl]

keep pretending that a 25 year old man dating an 18-19 year old girl is normal

dating someone who is still in development as an adult is pedophilia

It's not uncommon at all. It's not really the same thing as a 25 year old dating a 13 year old as you're trying to make it out to be.

 

[Deleted member 2157]

It's not uncommon at all. It's not really the same thing as a 25 year old dating a 13 year old as you're trying to make it out to be.

It is still pathetic since 25 year old men should be with women in their 20s

 

[Deleted member 4612]

It is still pathetic since 25 year old men should be with women in their 20s

"should be"

yeah that's your opinion, not everyone wants women who have been fucked by frat boys dozens of times

 

[sytyl]

It is still pathetic since 25 year old men should be with women in their 20s

dude just no
why would someone who is 25 and has their shit together have to date girls in their mid twenties who have been passed around

 

[Deleted member 2157]

dude just no
why would someone who is 25 and has their shit together have to date girls in their mid twenties who have been passed around

"should be"

yeah that's your opinion, not everyone wants women who have been fucked by frat boys dozens of times

If you think all girls in their 20s have done that. JFL at how much the internet has caused your brain to be rotted.