Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

[Eren]

Roiding in puberty is bad tho, you should do it at 17

but maybe the gains for frame are done during puberty so it would be counterproductive to wait ? i'm 24 and i think i will start roids around late 25-26 as i will recover from bimax in the meantime, is that too late for frame gains?
Some famous IG fake natties had a fucking dogshit frame and genetics (wide hips, no clavicles etc.) and transformed into frame moggers, so maybe it doesnt affect facial bones too much but rather the bones in the body ?

@Jonasㅤㅤ

 

[SlayerJonas]

but maybe the gains for frame are done during puberty so it would be counterproductive to wait ? i'm 24 and i think i will start roids around late 25-26 as i will recover from bimax in the meantime, is that too late for frame gains?
Some famous IG fake natties had a fucking dogshit frame and genetics (wide hips, no clavicles etc.) and transformed into frame moggers, so maybe it doesnt affect facial bones too much but rather the bones in the body ?

@Jonasㅤㅤ

No, there's barely any difference between facial bones and your clavicles. "Muscles" augment your frame because they are literally muscles that sit on your bones. Just roid once you got the knowledge and the correct how-to, else it isn't worth it. Also only do it for the body halo (for the muscles).

 

[SlayerJonas]

To everyone still coping with bonesmashing:

1. Don't misinterpret bone remodelling e.g. with Wolff's law.
2. Go provide your evidence to support that regurgitated pseudoscience.
3. No amount of bonesmashing (provided it works in the first place and won't cause asymmetries) is going to add more than a few mm's of bone.

Only osteotomies and implants will significantly improve your looks.

 

[masterracist]

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed.

Or even roids, they don't change the facial structure bone-wise. Greg Doucette is an example for that, he blasted tons of roids, but there were 0 changes. In theory it should work though, atleast in puberty.

Before roiding (22yo)
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After roiding
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Arnold Schwarzenegger (16-20yo)
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After years of extreme AAS use
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Their giant jaws indicate how sensitive they are to androgens (high AR density, low myostatin, etc.), not that their jaws grew by the AAS use. It's almost as if the big jaw seen in most bodybuilders could be an indicator for success in bodybuilding.

An comparison for that would be how people think basketball players are taller because of playing basketball, it's more like basketball players are taller on average because they have better chances in the sport.

Feel free to discuss this, I just wanted to put this up for debate.

I'm not hating on roids btw, I'm roiding myself.

@lestoa @Hexmask @halloweed @Angutoid @N1666

Then what all did loox do? Specify this shit

 

[wiws]

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed.

Or even roids, they don't change the facial structure bone-wise. Greg Doucette is an example for that, he blasted tons of roids, but there were 0 changes. In theory it should work though, atleast in puberty.

Before roiding (22yo)
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After roiding
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Arnold Schwarzenegger (16-20yo)
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After years of extreme AAS use
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Their giant jaws indicate how sensitive they are to androgens (high AR density, low myostatin, etc.), not that their jaws grew by the AAS use. It's almost as if the big jaw seen in most bodybuilders could be an indicator for success in bodybuilding.

An comparison for that would be how people think basketball players are taller because of playing basketball, it's more like basketball players are taller on average because they have better chances in the sport.

Feel free to discuss this, I just wanted to put this up for debate.

I'm not hating on roids btw, I'm roiding myself.

@lestoa @Hexmask @halloweed @Angutoid @N1666

so your if plates are open you think it could work?

I believe the only thing that can change if plates are closed is the density of the bone via the androgen recoptor but i do think that if plates are open bone remodeling is possible.

 

[heterochromia]

Bone smashing works mainly around brow ridge and cheekbones

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Zoom in and you will see the guy transformation

actually crazy tag me please vro