Bonesmashing doesn't work. Roiding doesn't change the facial structure.

[wishIwasSalludon]

definitely

Bonesmashing is for broke people

 

[N1666]

Buddy one quote is me saying that it’s minimized

That doesn’t say they don’t get hit often

The other quote is me saying they don’t take blows to the head every second

Once again that does mean they don’t get hit often

They take 2.41 blows every minute on average which is a lot but not as much as you thought it was

Mirin your reading comprehension

Repeating the same dog shit doesn’t make your points more valid. Now stop spamming replies like an emotional toddler and go read about the bone remodelling process.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Now stop spamming replies like an emotional toddler and go read about the bone remodelling process.

Buddy you can’t complain when your retarded points get debunked

Just be less retarded

Repeating the same dog shit doesn’t make your points more valid.

I just had to explain to you how to read properly literally none of those quotes say that mma fighters don’t get hit often

So once again I’m going to ask you an incredible simple question

Find a single quote where I say mma fighters don’t get hit(in the face) often or enough

 

[N1666]

Buddy you can’t complain when your retarded points get debunked

Just be less retarded


I just had to explain to you how to read properly literally none of those quotes say that mma fighters don’t get hit often

So once again I’m going to ask you an incredible simple question

Find a single quote where I say mma fighters don’t get hit(in the face) often or enough

You didn’t debunk shit, accept the fold and stop trying to dodge the whole argument by trying to make up that you aren’t saying they don’t get hit often.

Stop fucking replying to me now, it’s embarrassing that I’m even entertaining low iq shitposters.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

aren’t saying they don’t get hit often.

Find a single quote where I said that

If I said they don’t get hit often then why do you keep avoiding this question?

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

You didn’t debunk shit,

Great argument bro

“You didn’t debunk me because I said so”

Brother the evidence says so

You literally changed your argument multiple times

The fact you had to change your argument shows you got debunked

 

[N1666]

Find a single quote where I said that

If I said they don’t get hit often then why do you keep avoiding this question?

Great argument bro

“You didn’t debunk me because I said so”

Brother the evidence says so

You literally changed your argument multiple times

The fact you had to change your argument shows you got debunked

???

You didn’t debunk shit lmfao stop fucking coping. I didn’t change my argument once I responded to your multiple points where you contradicted yourself multiple times.

You didn’t prove any evidence either LOOL, you just provided some dumbass shit about shin conditioning like it’s relatable to facial bones.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

You didn’t prove any evidence either LOOL, you just provided some dumbass shit about shin conditioning like it’s relatable to facial bones.

It is relatable to facial bones?

You realize that bonecells in ur leg and face are the same

Why wouldn’t it work in the face if it works in the shins

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

I didn’t change my argument

The first thing you said was

“MMA fighters get hit all the time it’s not comparable”

Then you said “striking can’t cause remodeling because that’s not how wolffs law works muh micro muh macro traumas”

Then you said “ok striking causes remodeling but only in the shin and not anywhere else for some reason”

Stop bro

 

[N1666]

It is relatable to facial bones?

You realize that bonecells in ur leg and face are the same

Why wouldn’t it work in the face if it works in the shins

Facial bones are more complex, simple as.

The first thing you said was

“MMA fighters get hit all the time it’s not comparable”

I said they get hit in the face for over a decade, even if it’s whatever mathematical bullshit you said it’s still over many fucking years with contact to the face. If there is somehow bone growth, it is not comparable to what the average bonesmasher does.

Then you said “striking can’t cause remodeling because that’s not how wolffs law works muh micro muh macro traumas”

Just say you don’t understand wolffs law (which you clearly don’t). It’s okay to be wrong lil fag.

Then you said “ok striking causes remodeling but only in the shin and not anywhere else for some reason”
Stop ‘em seeing yourself

Didn’t say this once.

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

Bone smashing works

Take a look at 1920s boxers they were low inihb had harder gloves and got hit in the face often

Fred bretonnel

Eugène Criqui

Georges Carpentier

 

[6foot3Mediterranean]

Bone smashing works mainly around brow ridge and cheekbones

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Zoom in and you will see the guy transformation

What thread is that

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Facial bones are more complex, simple as.

Nigga it’s still going to grow

Now because of the complexity of facial bones you could say

“Oh well it might not grow symmetrically” unlike shins which are simpler bone

But the bone itself is still going to respond to striking

Your body can’t tell whether it’s happening in your shin or your face

I said they get hit in the face for over a decade,

Yea remodeling takes years that’s why I told the other guy in the thread it’s better to just get surgery

You could speed up remodeling process with bmps, androgens, hgh etc but if you can afford that why not just get surgery

Bone smashing works indeed but it’s definitely not the best option

it is not comparable to what the average bonesmasher does.

That’s due to them not doing it long enough because bone remodeling takes a long time

Your comment implied that there was something fundamentally different abt bone smashing that would make it not work

Just say you don’t understand wolffs law (which you clearly don’t). It’s okay to be wrong lil fag.

That’s not an argument stop embarrassing yourself

Didn’t say this once.

Facial bones are more complex, simple as.

That’s you literally in the same reply saying that striking remodels the shins but not the face

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Bone smashing works

Take a look at 1920s boxers they were low inihb had harder gloves and got hit in the face often

Fred bretonnel
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Eugène Criqui
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Georges Carpentier
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God bare knuckle fighting is so insanely brutal but it interestingly enough has a lower risk of cte than gloved fighting

Which may seem strange but gloves distribute the force more which rattles your brain more

 

[20/04/2008]

Yes, androgen receptors don't downregulate no matter what gear you take. They even upregulate.

I have no money, I would give 10$ though if anyone else finances the rest.

Their facial hair increases and their hairline starts thinning, no more changes bone-related.
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Let me know if you find any significant changes in ftm trannies.


Judging just from these two pictures, it looks like his face changed.

Let me add this picture though, this may change things a bit. Looks like he has the same chin height as in the "after" picture.

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1)you agree with me
Then procedd to cuz controversy (cuz you know im a androgen receptors downregulator fan)

 

[Mike141]

Just curious I'm guessing that you bonemashed your supra mainly+maybe your infras

Was this during taking HGH? If so was you taking any roids?

ye i bonesmashed my supras, infras, chin, gonions, zygos

 

[mrmogger2882]

ye i bonesmashed my supras, infras, chin, gonions, zygos

pics or larp

Of chin

 

[Chief Queef]

based

Cope and lies. STEROIDS and bone smashing is for champions!

 

[NoaA99]

Yes, I agree. I would add though that the skull growth achieved by growth factors (mostly during early to mid puberty) would cover the whole skull and body, not just specific parts.

Here this is an individual suffering from acromegaly.

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It just looks like his mandible grew mostly but it was his whole skull, the cranium itself is in proportion as that's the skull changes seen in developing humans.

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So as seen with this individual suffering from acromegaly, trying to replicate these results may lead to unaesthetic results.

It is insanely retarded- You can’t fully control the growth it causes and at the high doses required (at least 5iu daily), it has the potential to fuck up your health-despite what some self-proclaimed doctors on here might suggest.

 

[Joaquin]

Bonesmashing works but It is high risk low reward, I still do It tho, only on zygos

 

[robert3]

these examples are flawed, they would look much if they had less ars and more myostatin,
your average guy would get a good appearance change after roiding, they would have the effects of higher bone mass and not deal with the intense facial muscles and growth. those after photos are all on cycle with some pretty intense compounds, they're gonna look worse and they're not just on test or anavar.

 

[james sapphire]

Nobody had results with it, Loox doesn't count because he had other procedures done. Show me only one before and after of bonesmashing changing the face. I'm not saying it doesn't work because nobody had results with it, they don't work because the concept itself of "growing" the bone is flawed.

Or even roids, they don't change the facial structure bone-wise. Greg Doucette is an example for that, he blasted tons of roids, but there were 0 changes. In theory it should work though, atleast in puberty.

Before roiding (22yo)
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After roiding
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Arnold Schwarzenegger (16-20yo)
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After years of extreme AAS use
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Their giant jaws indicate how sensitive they are to androgens (high AR density, low myostatin, etc.), not that their jaws grew by the AAS use. It's almost as if the big jaw seen in most bodybuilders could be an indicator for success in bodybuilding.

An comparison for that would be how people think basketball players are taller because of playing basketball, it's more like basketball players are taller on average because they have better chances in the sport.

Feel free to discuss this, I just wanted to put this up for debate.

I'm not hating on roids btw, I'm roiding myself.

@lestoa @Hexmask @halloweed @Angutoid @N1666

but arent you bonesmashing

 

[Jonas2k7]

1)you agree with me
Then procedd to cuz controversy (cuz you know im a androgen receptors downregulator fan)

I thought maybe you changed your opinion that androgen receptors don't downregulate.

The thesis that ARs downregulate was by gymbros thinking because they stopped making gains that the androgen receptors got weaker, if we look at other processes in the body we can see that most of them really downregulate in response to high amounts of stimulation. Just not the ARs, the only thing that stops the gains is myostatin increasing. This doesn't matter in the end, I guess 6 weeks between blasts and cruises are the minimum you should wait no matter if it was caused by AR downregulation or myostatin increase.

Now explain your idea why they would downregulate ??

 

[20/04/2008]

I thought maybe you changed your opinion that androgen receptors don't downregulate.

The thesis that ARs downregulate was by gymbros thinking because they stopped making gains that the androgen receptors got weaker, if we look at other processes in the body we can see that most of them really downregulate in response to high amounts of stimulation. Just not the ARs, the only thing that stops the gains is myostatin increasing. This doesn't matter in the end, I guess 6 weeks between blasts and cruises are the minimum you should wait no matter if it was caused by AR downregulation or myostatin increase.

Now explain your idea why they would downregulate ??

Your Ar stops working as before after 6 weeks
All the greats know about it
So you either stop or increase the dose
Basicaly you can’t be on 250 test for years and expect it to keep working
You have to either let time off or double the doses

 

[solpafanima]

Facial bones are more complex, simple as.


I said they get hit in the face for over a decade, even if it’s whatever mathematical bullshit you said it’s still over many fucking years with contact to the face. If there is somehow bone growth, it is not comparable to what the average bonesmasher does.

Just say you don’t understand wolffs law (which you clearly don’t). It’s okay to be wrong lil fag.

Didn’t say this once.

dnr

 

[Jonas2k7]

Your Ar stops working as before after 6 weeks

If anything, ARs get upregulated by androgens. How would you explain that it stops working literally and why 6 weeks?

All the greats know about it

"All the greats know about it" is not a great argument, if Arnold Schwarzenegger recommends the arnold press are you going to do the arnold press?

So you either stop or increase the dose

Increasing the dose is optimal.

Basicaly you can’t be on 250 test for years and expect it to keep working

You could make substantial gains with just 250 test, it improves recovery nonetheless etc. but isn't optimal yeah.

You have to either let time off or double the doses

Titrating up the dosage step-by-step is better

 

[20/04/2008]

If anything, ARs get upregulated by androgens. How would you explain that it stops working literally and why 6 weeks?

"All the greats know about it" is not a great argument, if Arnold Schwarzenegger recommends the arnold press are you going to do the arnold press?

Increasing the dose is optimal.

You could make substantial gains with just 250 test, it improves recovery nonetheless etc. but isn't optimal yeah.

Titrating up the dosage step-by-step is better

Do an experiment
A guy who do 500 test for 6 weeks then 125 for 6 weeks and this 2x in a total of 24 weeks
Would make much more gains than a guy using 250 for 24 weeks straight even tho its the same dose
Even in studies guys get the mist gains like 90% in the 4-8 weeks range do why bother going on a longer cycle fof the extra 10% of gains

Keep in mind its not just the greats its all bodybuilders in general keep in mind those niggas are psychopaths that would do anything to win why would they. Cruise ???

Also Ar upregulate yes
Because T increase the Number of Ar
But what about Shbg ??? What about Myostatin??? What about igf-1 ???
in studies Ar content is all that matter not you overall testosterone level
That’s why a guy on 250 test could build 10 lbs and another guy 40 lbs

 

[HandsomeOrDeath]

I love bone smashing