Bonesmashing

[Mapgic]

Is it cope?

 

[Temporals]

gremlin

 

[1_lifechanging_mome]

Is it cope?

Yes

 

[brakuu]

Yes

iqlet lol

 

[1_lifechanging_mome]

iqlet lol

I’m in the top 3% of the Netherlands never talk again

 

[brakuu]

I’m in the top 3% of the Netherlands never talk again

this is how i know ur bottom 3%

 

[1_lifechanging_mome]

this is how i know ur bottom 3%

 

[Alyaxx]

Is it cope?

Creates only inflammation/random scar tissue. Would look bumpy.
Can stunt your growth if your in puberty, and can decrease bone mass in the long run.
Can cause permanent nerve damage.

That’s all I’ve searched and all I know. Probably there are even worse contraindications. Don’t do it

 

[thegever]

Creates only inflammation/random scar tissue. Would look bumpy.
Can stunt your growth if your in puberty, and can decrease bone mass in the long run.
Can cause permanent nerve damage.

That’s all I’ve searched and all I know. Probably there are even worse contraindications. Don’t do it

explain. especially the claim about stunting your growth

 

[Alyaxx]

explain. especially the claim about stunting your growth

You can destroy growth plates. Bones in your face are really sensitive, so do the growth plates.

When you damage bone you just create scar tissue (callus) (same that happens in MMA fighters tibialis, and rather than increasing actual mass it increases density therefore resistance).

Nerve damaging speaks for itself

 

[thegever]

You can destroy growth plates. Bones in your face are really sensitive, so do the growth plates.

When you damage bone you just create scar tissue (callus) (same that happens in MMA fighters tibialis, and rather than increasing actual mass it increases density therefore resistance).

Nerve damaging speaks for itself

there is no growth plates in the face and you dont need a lot of force for bsing only 0.5-.09 mpa

 

[Alyaxx]

You can destroy growth plates. Bones in your face are really sensitive, so do the growth plates.

When you damage bone you just create scar tissue (callus) (same that happens in MMA fighters tibialis, and rather than increasing actual mass it increases density therefore resistance).

Nerve damaging speaks for itself

What looks like growth is just edema of soft tissues. bone damaging, when chronic, causes osteonecrosis

 

[Alyaxx]

there is no growth plates in the face and you dont need a lot of force for bsing only 0.5-.09 mpa

Call them sutures ok. I gpted now. They work slightly different. Kinda the same as growth plates. They can get traumatically stunted

 

[Alyaxx]

there is no growth plates in the face and you dont need a lot of force for bsing only 0.5-.09 mpa

Plus why do u use “mpa” as force. That’s a pressure unit of measure

 

[Banana ★ 🍌]

Is it cope?

Bone smashing dosent last forever it affects only last around a day it’s not a permanent remodeling thing to your face but for the moment it makes a difference

But no it’s not cooe

 

[Banana ★ 🍌]

You can destroy growth plates. Bones in your face are really sensitive, so do the growth plates.

I know it ain’t the best source for info in to lazy to give you an article

 

[Alyaxx]

Call them sutures ok. I gpted now. They work slightly different. Kinda the same as growth plates. They can get traumatically stunted

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I know it ain’t the best source for info in to lazy to give you an article

 

[thegever]

Call them sutures ok. I gpted now. They work slightly different. Kinda the same as growth plates. They can get traumatically stunted

no they dont work the same u fking tard and they close extremely early and there is no evidence that it stunts them and they arent that sensitive

Plus why do u use “mpa” as force. That’s a pressure unit of measure

cuz the study backing up my claim uses mpa why would i convert it

 

[Alyaxx]

no they dont work the same u fking tard and they close extremely early and there is no evidence that it stunts them and they arent that sensitive

Search traumatic craniosynostonis. I said puberty too.

cuz the study backing up my claim uses mpa why would i convert it

FORCE≠PRESSURE

 

[cuckmaster41]

You can destroy growth plates. Bones in your face are really sensitive, so do the growth plates.

When you damage bone you just create scar tissue (callus) (same that happens in MMA fighters tibialis, and rather than increasing actual mass it increases density therefore resistance).

Nerve damaging speaks for itself

it won’t increase the density , by hitting let’s say the chin bone, your body reacts to that as if it were something harmful and sends cells to repair that area as fast as they can, by repeatedly hitting that area you’re making your body work overtime by sending collagen producing cells to the site of impact, it’ll eventually cause an excess of collagen cells that’ll build up and create scar tissue as a protection mechanism, your body over time calcifies this scar tissue and it’ll harden. It’s not bone but there’s no difference aesthetics- wise. Hope this helps even a little bit.

 

[Alyaxx]

it won’t increase the density , by hitting let’s say the chin bone, your body reacts to that as if it were something harmful and sends cells to repair that area as fast as they can, by repeatedly hitting that area you’re making your body work overtime by sending collagen producing cells to the site of impact, it’ll eventually cause an excess of collagen cells that’ll build up and create scar tissue as a protection mechanism, your body over time calcifies this scar tissue and it’ll harden. It’s not bone but there’s no difference aesthetics- wise. Hope this helps even a little bit.

I searched up a few weeks ago and couldn’t see proves of the callus eventually calcifying.

 

[cuckmaster41]

I searched up a few weeks ago and couldn’t see proves of the callus eventually calcifying.

well based on what I’ve read how it works is since you’re not only hitting the soft tissue but also the outer layer of the bone is being impacted as well, your body treats it almost as if it were a bone injury. Your body’s inflammatory response breaks down the cells or proteins im not sure don’t quote me on that it’s either or, but it breaks it down the anti calcification protein or cells that prevents your soft tissue to harden, and without this it’ll lead to calcium salts reaching the fibrosis / scar tissue and it’ll eventually harden into something that feels a bit more like bone. This is just the basics of it there’s probably more that leads to the scar tissue actually hardening than just this but I think this explains it well enough

 

[Alyaxx]

well based on what I’ve read how it works is since you’re not only hitting the soft tissue but also the outer layer of the bone is being impacted as well, your body treats it almost as if it were a bone injury. Your body’s inflammatory response breaks down the cells or proteins im not sure don’t quote me on that it’s either or, but it breaks it down the anti calcification protein or cells that prevents your soft tissue to harden, and without this it’ll lead to calcium salts reaching the fibrosis / scar tissue and it’ll eventually harden into something that feels a bit more like bone. This is just the basics of it there’s probably more that leads to the scar tissue actually hardening than just this but I think this explains it well enough

Bro an injury creates callus, once the injury is gone callus clears up. That is simply how the body works. It will fade away once you stop bone smashing, and more exposure to it will simply heighten the odds of you getting a permanent nerve damage

 

[sørenyuko]

Please stop, i cant take it anymore...

 

[Alyaxx]

Please stop, i cant take it anymore...

Me too bro, me too

 

[cuckmaster41]

Bro an injury creates callus, once the injury is gone callus clears up. That is simply how the body works. It will fade away once you stop bone smashing, and more exposure to it will simply highen the odds of you getting a permanent nerve damage

It is literally not possible for your body to dissolve the collagen fibers formed as a protection mechanism because of how dense they are dude, repeatedly hitting that area would cause layers and layers of these collagen fibers over time making it even HARDER for your body to be able to dissolve that please do some more research if you’re trying to make a point this bad

 

[shortface]

Is it cope?

Is grass green?

Don’t tell people though,
if more people started smashing their face with blunt objects we can eliminate competition

 

[cuckmaster41]

Call them sutures ok. I gpted now. They work slightly different. Kinda the same as growth plates. They can get traumatically stunted

And yes while you are TECHNICALLY right about the sutures being able to have stunted growth with repetitive damage to the bone, there is more to it than just that. For your facial bone sutures to close early which is called PREMATURE OSSIFICATION if you had done any research at all, you would need to apply massive amount of force to the bone sutures, enough to cause fractures in the bone itself. There is no data of light or just normal repetitive impact to the bone making your sutures bind early, it has been scientifically proven that thinks like being repeatedly punched in boxing would not in any way make your sutures bind prematurely. The force you would need to cause that would have to be enough to at the very least cause a fracture or a periosteal tear which would mean literally applying enough force to slice a part of the thin outer layer of your bone off.

 

[Alyaxx]

It is literally not possible for your body to dissolve the collagen fibers formed as a protection mechanism because of how dense they are dude, repeatedly hitting that area would cause layers and layers of these collagen fibers over time making it even HARDER for your body to be able to dissolve that please do some more research if you’re trying to make a point this bad

Bro please stop the cope. Please. IT DOES DISSOLVE ITS BASIC MEDICINE. IVE SEEN STUDIES OF IT YOU HERE TALKING SHIT .

The osteogenic potential of human bone callus - PMC

Bone callus, generated during fracture healing, is commonly discarded during surgical procedures. The aim of this study was to investigate the osteogenic potential of bone callus and its possible use as autograft material for patients needing bone ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

“Once the porous bone callus is formed, fracture healing moves into a remodelling phase. During this phase, bony structural changes occur, including pore size, porosity, and the number and thickness of trabecular bone. However, the amount of bone does not increase in this phase as it does during the prior phase. Thus, the number of active osteoblasts and the expression of growth factors decrease sharply to a low maintenance level28,29. This event indicates that the rapid rebuilding of the fracture is complete and that healing has transitioned into a new stage of remodelling.”

After repait there’s no more extreme bone building (pretty obvious)

PLUS


2.2
“This stage of fracture healing is commonly known as the formation of hard callus [7, 18]. As this process of cartilage mineralization advances, the mechanical stability of the fracture site increases ultimately reaching sufficient stability to independently carry physiological loads; typically this stage is reached several weeks or months after the primary injury [23]. Finally, both the immature woven bone and underlying cartilage matrix are removed by osteoclasts, initiating the process of remodeling that ultimately re-establishes the typical osteon structure and the Haversian system based on the mechanical stresses applied to the bone [18, 23]. This remodeling process that can take several months or even years to complete, but ultimately the process restores the normal form and integrity of the bone completing the process of fracture healing.”

 

[Alyaxx]

And yes while you are TECHNICALLY right about the sutures being able to have stunted growth with repetitive damage to the bone, there is more to it than just that. For your facial bone sutures to close early which is called PREMATURE OSSIFICATION if you had done any research at all, you would need to apply massive amount of force to the bone sutures, enough to cause fractures in the bone itself. There is no data of light or just normal repetitive impact to the bone making your sutures bind early, it has been scientifically proven that thinks like being repeatedly punched in boxing would not in any way make your sutures bind prematurely. The force you would need to cause that would have to be enough to at the very least cause a fracture or a periosteal tear which would mean literally applying enough force to slice a part of the thin outer layer of your bone off.

HOLD ON WE HAVE THE SCIENTIST BRO PLEASE STOP. ACTING TOUGH TOO. IM THE FIRST IN KEEPING A SERIOUS TONE BUT I CANT

 

[Alyaxx]

. The force you would need to cause that would have to be enough to at the very least cause a fracture

Source is: trust me bro. Man wtf why

 

[Alyaxx]

Source is: trust me bro. Man wtf why

I don’t wanna hate but don’t try to use “ science” that is not backed up by nothing apart a looksmax forum

 

[cuckmaster41]

Your source proves literally NOTHING bro what? We’re talking about the act of REPEATEDLY STRIKING A BONE to the point where collagen fibers are adding new layers of protection when you’re smashing, with all the excessive layers of collagen fibers you have your body CANNOT get rid of it and if you stop smashing by the time it calcifies because it WILL eventually calcify your body has literally nothing to protect these tissues from absorbing the calcium phosphate that is LEAKING into the tissue because the damage you’ve been causing shuts down the defense mechanism your body has set up to PREVENT soft tissue from calcifying. Now how the FUCK is your body gonna get rid of calcified tissue

 

[cuckmaster41]

I don’t wanna hate but don’t try to use “ science” that is not backed up by nothing apart a looksmax forum

I’m not saying your article is wrong but there is a pretty big difference from a one time injury healing and repetitive damage being dealt to a bone over the span of months bro

 

[Alyaxx]

Oh my guy,

all the excessive layers of collagen fibers you have your body CANNOT get rid of it

it can until it basically disappearssss. Please show me a study, ONE VERIFIED study that proves that the excessive scar tissue can’t be absorbed. Not all scar tissue actually calcifies.

The osteoclast-activating signals that are released inside as callus is forming (yes bone REMODELING and bone healing overlap) become more active and osteoblasts activity becomes less dominant . It ends up in a CATABOLIC PHASE where reabsortion happens.

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This was source. It was the second article I put before but it didn’t show.

 

[Alyaxx]

I’m not saying your article is wrong but there is a pretty big difference from a one time injury healing and repetitive damage being dealt to a bone over the span of months bro

Those are called stress fracture (probably damage is microfractures unless you don’t wanna destroy your face) and they repair in the same way of a normal bone fracture. Bro please don’t back up something that doesn’t exist in medicine

 

[cuckmaster41]

Source is: trust me bro. Man wtf why

im really not trying to hate here were js having a disagreement is all but the article you shared on here strictly talks about one-time injury such as a bone fracture.

Calcium Signaling and Tissue Calcification - PMC

Calcification is a regulated physiological process occurring in bones and teeth. However, calcification is commonly found in soft tissues in association with aging and in a variety of diseases. Over the last two decades, it has emerged that ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

If you wanna take some time to read that article it talks about how the soft tissue would calcify over time

A Quick Guide to Understanding Fibrosis

Ever wondered what happens when your body tries to heal a wound but ends up with thick scar tissue instead?

www.arthrofibrosis.info

This article talks about why the body can not absorb fibrosis when it is repeatedly being damaged over and over

Check out how basically every different possibility that article gives you to get RID of the fibrosis has something to do with medical intervention

 

[Alyaxx]

im really not trying to hate here were js having a disagreement is all but the article you shared on here strictly talks about one-time injury such as a bone fracture.

Calcium Signaling and Tissue Calcification - PMC

Calcification is a regulated physiological process occurring in bones and teeth. However, calcification is commonly found in soft tissues in association with aging and in a variety of diseases. Over the last two decades, it has emerged that ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

If you wanna take some time to read that article it talks about how the soft tissue would calcify over time

A Quick Guide to Understanding Fibrosis

Ever wondered what happens when your body tries to heal a wound but ends up with thick scar tissue instead?

www.arthrofibrosis.info

This article talks about why the body can not absorb fibrosis when it is repeatedly being damaged over and over

Check out how basically every different possibility that article gives you to get RID of the fibrosis has something to do with medical intervention

It’s too late il cheek tmrw

 

[Alyaxx]

It’s too late il cheek tmrw

I hope I forget

 

[cuckmaster41]

Those are called stress fracture (probably damage is microfractures unless you don’t wanna destroy your face) and they repair in the same way of a normal bone fracture. Bro please don’t back up something that doesn’t exist in medicine

they can’t repair themselves the same way because one is not actively sending more cells over and over to continuously try to repair something. The reason why a fracture heals the way it does is because your body has a specific sequence to heal the bone that eventually ends up with osteoclasts to absorb the broken bone and osteoblasts to form new bone. Repetitive damage leaves the tissue in a permanent inflammatory state, the repetitive damage tells the fibrosis to keep sending collagen cells to the site of damage faster than your body can break it down that’s why it can’t be absorbed

 

[cuckmaster41]

It’s too late il cheek tmrw

you go right ahead

 

[cuckmaster41]

I hope I forget

you complained about me not giving you sources I gave you sources what you do with the info is up to you now

 

[sebashate]

I’m in the top 3% of the Netherlands never talk again

what does this have to do with bsing being cope or not????

 

[arkzy7]

Is it cope?

fibrosis not cope

 

[sebashate]

Is it cope?

no, it does work and creates scar tissue, the downside is that u really cant control where that tissue forms, since it gets bumpy etc, but go ahead, it worked for me

 

[cuckmaster41]

fibrosis not cope

tysm for sharing your opinion after the tiring argument I just had thought I went through all that writing for people to spam cope again

 

[cuckmaster41]

Bro please stop the cope. Please. IT DOES DISSOLVE ITS BASIC MEDICINE. IVE SEEN STUDIES OF IT YOU HERE TALKING SHIT .

The osteogenic potential of human bone callus - PMC

Bone callus, generated during fracture healing, is commonly discarded during surgical procedures. The aim of this study was to investigate the osteogenic potential of bone callus and its possible use as autograft material for patients needing bone ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

“Once the porous bone callus is formed, fracture healing moves into a remodelling phase. During this phase, bony structural changes occur, including pore size, porosity, and the number and thickness of trabecular bone. However, the amount of bone does not increase in this phase as it does during the prior phase. Thus, the number of active osteoblasts and the expression of growth factors decrease sharply to a low maintenance level28,29. This event indicates that the rapid rebuilding of the fracture is complete and that healing has transitioned into a new stage of remodelling.”

After repait there’s no more extreme bone building (pretty obvious)

PLUS


2.2
“This stage of fracture healing is commonly known as the formation of hard callus [7, 18]. As this process of cartilage mineralization advances, the mechanical stability of the fracture site increases ultimately reaching sufficient stability to independently carry physiological loads; typically this stage is reached several weeks or months after the primary injury [23]. Finally, both the immature woven bone and underlying cartilage matrix are removed by osteoclasts, initiating the process of remodeling that ultimately re-establishes the typical osteon structure and the Haversian system based on the mechanical stresses applied to the bone [18, 23]. This remodeling process that can take several months or even years to complete, but ultimately the process restores the normal form and integrity of the bone completing the process of fracture healing.”

ykw, I took the time of day to read the articles you cited, and now im wondering did you even read the article you sent me? 75% of the first article only talks about whether or not bone callus can be used as autograft material. One of the first things the article you sent me talks about is how the bone callus you’re saying the body gets rid of naturally is almost always removed during surgeries for fractures. Later on in the article yes it does talk about how the body technically absorbs the bone callus, but you cherry-picked the living shit out of the info you cited under the article. Yes your body does absorb the bone callus after a while but it absorbs it to help form new bone.

As osteoblasts and osteogenic factors peak, callus formation and bone healing is initiated23,24,25.

As bone callus formation progresses, osteoblasts differentiate into osteocytes, undergo apoptosis, or convert to bone-lining cells (inactive osteoblasts), thereby decreasing the number of active osteoblasts28,29

Once the porous bone callus is formed, fracture healing moves into a remodelling phase. During this phase, bony structural changes occur, including pore size, porosity, and the number and thickness of trabecular bone. However, the amount of bone does not increase in this phase as it does during the prior phase.

yes it does say the amount of bone does not increase in this phase. the amount of bone did in fact increase in the prior phase to this due to the bone callus, the bone callus is then absorbed to form denser bone

Moreover, bone callus simultaneously provides osteoblasts, osteoinductive factors, and an osteoconductive structure, making it an almost perfect osteogenic material with mechanical properties that are better than tissue-engineered bone.

Now let’s say the bone callus does get absorbed by the body, which technically that would happen only in a one-time fracture, your entire article has absolutely nothing to do with the argument we had. A bone callus is completely temporary and is there to help stabilize the fractured bone + is what helps osteoblasts form new bone in the right place. You’re comparing a bone callus caused by a fracture to the bone, to fibrosis; something that is completely permanent. You sent me an article that does nothing to help prove your point and has absolutely nothing to do with the argument of whether or not fibrosis/scar tissue is or is not permanent.

@arkzy7
@sebashate

What do yall think about this sorry about the yap sesh

 

[Alyaxx]

ykw, I took the time of day to read the articles you cited, and now im wondering did you even read the article you sent me? 75% of the first article only talks about whether or not bone callus can be used as autograft material. One of the first things the article you sent me talks about is how the bone callus you’re saying the body gets rid of naturally is almost always removed during surgeries for fractures. Later on in the article yes it does talk about how the body technically absorbs the bone callus, but you cherry-picked the living shit out of the info you cited under the article. Yes your body does absorb the bone callus after a while but it absorbs it to help form new bone.

As osteoblasts and osteogenic factors peak, callus formation and bone healing is initiated23,24,25.

As bone callus formation progresses, osteoblasts differentiate into osteocytes, undergo apoptosis, or convert to bone-lining cells (inactive osteoblasts), thereby decreasing the number of active osteoblasts28,29

Once the porous bone callus is formed, fracture healing moves into a remodelling phase. During this phase, bony structural changes occur, including pore size, porosity, and the number and thickness of trabecular bone. However, the amount of bone does not increase in this phase as it does during the prior phase.

yes it does say the amount of bone does not increase in this phase. the amount of bone did in fact increase in the prior phase to this due to the bone callus, the bone callus is then absorbed to form denser bone

Moreover, bone callus simultaneously provides osteoblasts, osteoinductive factors, and an osteoconductive structure, making it an almost perfect osteogenic material with mechanical properties that are better than tissue-engineered bone.

Now let’s say the bone callus does get absorbed by the body, which technically that would happen only in a one-time fracture, your entire article has absolutely nothing to do with the argument we had. A bone callus is completely temporary and is there to help stabilize the fractured bone + is what helps osteoblasts form new bone in the right place. You’re comparing a bone callus caused by a fracture to the bone, to fibrosis; something that is completely permanent. You sent me an article that does nothing to help prove your point and has absolutely nothing to do with the argument of whether or not fibrosis/scar tissue is or is not permanent.

@arkzy7
@sebashate

What do yall think about this sorry about the yap sesh

Read only the first part cuz I’m tired will look tmrw. Yes I did I took an extract from it. Articles aren’t that picky, they have more argument in one single study ofc

 

[Alyaxx]

Read only the first part cuz I’m tired will look tmrw. Yes I did I took an extract from it. Articles aren’t that picky, they have more argument in one single study ofc

First article was to dictate the basics. Every thing i said ispresent in the article

 

[Alyaxx]

it absorbs it to help form new bone

where in the article