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@buddhistking why you running from the trinity

Been 3 days for you to reply back to it and prove it “wrong”


Here’s the quote to jog your memory

I can’t find it but I’ll try refute your baseless low IQ elementary tier rejection of the trinity

God is one entity. Ima use a philosophical term called 1st order Imposition and and 2nd order.

1st order refers to the reference of the entity/catagory itself, in this instance GOD, the WHAT

“The son is god the spirit is god the Father is god” this is 1st order imposition referencing the NATURE shared equally not divided amongst each person. This nature is what you’d refer to as the “Entity” it is The “whatness” of a creature or being

God is his own Genus called… well God.

2nd order order imposition refers to the Modality the what in which things exist, picking out distinctions of something. So there is ONE GOD. Which is 2nd order imposition referring to the mode in which the nature of god is shared amongst each person referencing the divine nature unified amongst each person.

Example time:
Consider the term human

If we say Peter is human, Paul is human, and Mary is human, we are using human in a first-order sense.

If we say Human nature is one, shared by all people, we are using human in a second-order sense.




Counting by identity and division;

Counting by identity refers to counting things based on who they are, so X = y means what X and Y are the same thing.

For example Bruce Wayne and Batman are both the same person and reference despite having different names

We count the persons via identity that’s why there’s three persons. Keep this in mind

Counting by division means
Counting by division means that when we count entities, we do so by dividing them based on their distinct instances or separability

The essense is the WHAT of god his GENUS his “ENTITY” as you call it, you cannot divide this you cannot change shape or alter it it is what it is and remains one and indivisible.

Just like if you have one piece of paper and rip it in 3 pieces you don’t have 3 new pieces of paper :lul: you simply have one piece of paper split into 3. Why 3? Because your counting the pieces of paper by identity however the essense of the three ripped pieces is the same and thus ONE paper

It’s a simple analogy but hopefully it helps I just wanted to show you these philosophical concepts there’s many more but I like these 2 concepts”
 
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@buddhistking why you running from the trinity

Been 3 days for you to reply back to it and prove it “wrong”
God dammit look ok you made a really complex and long intellectual argument and I want to tackle it fully but I go to work from 9 to 5 and come back tired and then have a few and I cba, my weekday life is just me feeling tired and stressed all week then coping with it lol

I know i said I would deal with it on Monday but truthfully I need the weekend where I'm not so tired and drained to deal with it

Just post a link to the original thread where u said it I will deal with it this weekend
 
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God dammit look ok you made a really complex and long intellectual argument and I want to tackle it fully but I go to work from 9 to 5 and come back tired and then have a few and I cba, my weekday life is just me feeling tired and stressed all week then coping with it lol

I know i said I would deal with it on Monday but truthfully I need the weekend where I'm not so tired and drained to deal with it

Just post a link to the original thread where u said it I will deal with it this weekend
My ramaprita shakri virjagrian Buddah is back :love:

Deal with it whenever I’m not letting you run
 
My ramaprita shakri virjagrian Buddah is back :love:

Deal with it whenever I’m not letting you run
Ok just post the link to the thread, this weekend trust me I don't want to let it slide
 
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I’m in a debating mood anybody wanna debate me in shiiiii rn
 
I’m in a debating mood anybody wanna debate me in shiiiii rn
what do you have to say to those who came to Christianity looking for a new sense of trust and faith that Jesus will fix their lives and then in the end got nothing out of it until they died?

I'm talking niggas who prayed for 30 years looking for a change and nothing came from their father who loves them jfl, and this happens to millions worldwide so don't say it doesn't happen
 
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Also post the link to ur trinity thread post
 
Ok just post the link to the thread, this weekend trust me I don't want to let it slide
Inshallah mashallah SUBHANALLAH TAKBIR ALLAH ALLHAMDULLAH :love::love:

This is the thread Akhiii
 
Inshallah mashallah SUBHANALLAH TAKBIR ALLAH ALLHAMDULLAH :love::love:

This is the thread Akhiii
Ok but answer my question if ur in a debating mood
 
what do you have to say to those who came to Christianity looking for a new sense of trust and faith that Jesus will fix their lives and then in the end got nothing out of it until they died

I'm talking niggas who prayed for 30 years looking for a change and nothing came from their father who loves them jfl, and this happens to millions worldwide so don't say it doesn't happen
If you come to faith looking and hoping for a genie then you deserve exactly what you get which is nothing.

As Jesus said “Those looking for a sign will only get the sign of Jonah”

Essentially you won’t get SHIT unless it’s in gods plan. And tbh it’s manipulative it’s like saying to your parents you only love them because they look after you it’s just mean and evil. I love god in spite of my life being shit, that’s true unconditional love why you ask? Because if you know him you’ll cry with how beautiful he is.

If you read the Bible without your bitterness you’ll see the Bible is a love story between a adulterous wife and her loyal hard working forgiving husband who takes her back every time because he loves her (Isreal) that’s why it says gods an y god because like a husband being jealous of other men nth his wife that’s how god feels. Or you can see it as a story of a father and his prodigal son who fucks about uses and abuses his father who will die and do everything for him and eventually one day dies for his son out of love :feelswah:
 
it’s like saying to your parents you only love them because they look after you it’s just mean and evil
How is that mean and evil? they are supposed to look after you, imagine loving a dad or mum that never did anything for you in your life 😂

Essentially you won’t get SHIT unless it’s in gods plan
Same gods plan bullshit that guys would always say when someone dies tragically in my black distant family muh "it's gods plan that he died from asthma at age 20"
If you read the Bible without your bitterness
It's not about bitterness lol, all the Christians i met would say "God is good, all the time and all the time God is good" and I would even say it too back then when I was around them

So if God is good then be good to your followers otherwise ur a faggot who isn't good at least not all the time
 
How is that mean and evil, they are supposed to look after you, imagining loving a dad or mum that never did anything for you in your life 😂


Same gods plan bullshit that guys would always say when someone dies tragically in my black distant family muh "it's gods plan that he died from asthma at age 20"

It's not about bitterness lol, all the Christians i met would say "God is good, all the time and all the time God is good" and I would even say it too back then when I was around them

So if God is good then be good to your followers otherwise ur a faggot who isn't good at least not all the time
God does look after you if you trust in him and love him. That however doesn’t mean your life will be easy. For some it is but for others it isn’t

The issue you’re having here is that you aren’t acknowledging that God doesn’t owe anybody anything. We all sin therefore tbh he should wipe us all out just being real here also you have the arch enemy who also runs rampant on earth fucking with people causing ruin to them.


I actually suggest you read or watch this documentary on the wisdom texts these 3 books actually answer your question




Also to your other point you must remember life is temporary and nobody truly dies death is a movement from the material realm to the other realm.

It’s true I’m a sinner all humans are that’s the point… and yes GOD IS GOOD ALLELUA
 
So you said this crap:

it is logical but not easy to read for our cultural context and time
Period.

Actually no Jacob (mentioned in Matthew) and Heli (mentioned in Luke) were thus half brothers. When Heli died childless, Jacob married his widow and fathered Joseph, who was biologically the son of Jacob but legally the son of Heli(see Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History 1:6:7).

And my response to this nonsense is:

Nowhere in the Bible is there a mention of Jacob and Heli being half-brothers or that Heli died childless and that Jacob married his widow, at all none, 0, nothing

Your dumb explanation rests assumption that Jacob and Heli were half-brothers based on LATER HISTORICAL INTERPRETATIONS (AKA NOT FACT) (eg Eusebius's Ecclesiastical History) but this is not part of the Biblical narrative and can be seen as SPECULATIVE (AKA ALSO NOT FACT)

Now to finish this off, if Heli died childless and Jacob married his widow, why is there no mention of this in either genealogy?
 

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