buddhist master refutes 'God'

[MonoTBB]

you still have to be able to comprehend that he has laws and rules to follow. also it literally says in the bible that god gets mad/sad/envy even in his "divine state". Which implies he feels suffering that he cannot get rid of through his own willing

He suffers because of our sin? If u read the first 4 chapters of the bible you'll understand immediately how it works

 

[mogstars]

dharmakirti said that if God if permanent,then how can he have cognitions?how can a permanent(unchanging)thing produce changing things?

also,if God has cognitions,he is dependant on the objects,different from him,to cognize said objects,his cognition and him as a cognizer is dependant on a object outside himself.he cannot be self-sufficient in his essence,btw essences don't exist anyway.

the entire idea of a God is silly.

Dhamarkiti, stop telling God what to do stupid nigga!

If God is all-powerful he can have cognition as cognition is basis for the intelligent design and rational world we all see!

 

[yandex99]

That bald ethnic nigga is retarded

your jesus admited to being a deciever in the new testament,he also got tempted.not perfect.

 

[standardcel]

Weren’t u muslim

 

[yandex99]

He suffers because of our sin? If u read the first 4 chapters of the bible you'll understand immediately how it works

he got hungry,thirsty and tired in the gospels.

 

[InnerVoid]

there are people that live off air,no food or water needed.t

tales from mumbai

 

[yandex99]

Dhamarkiti, stop telling God what to do stupid nigga!

If God is all-powerful he can have cognition as cognition is basis for the intelligent design and rational world we all see!

there is no action.there is no non-action.there is no unconditioned.there is no conditioned.there is no condition.read the mulamadhyamakakarika by nagarjuna.https://terebess.hu/english/Nagarjuna.pdf

 

[MonoTBB]

he got hungry,thirsty and tired in the gospels.

Ya Jesus Christ when he was human?

 

[yandex99]

tales from mumbai

 

[yandex99]

Ya Jesus Christ when he was human?

the human aspects would be imputed upon his divine spirit.unless he was two different persons as the nestorians say.

 

[yandex99]

Weren’t u muslim

no and yes,I followed islamic neoplatonism.then went into spinoza.all refuted by nagarjuna.

 

[AlexBrown84]

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[yandex99]

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noice man.I'd read nagarjuna if you ever have time.

 

[yandex99]

@AlexBrown84 https://terebess.hu/english/Nagarjuna.pdf here's a free link.first few chapters are hardest but you get the most wisdom out of it.if you have trouble understanding his points,scroll down for the added commentary.

 

[yandex99]

@Xangsane don't waste your life on a fantasy,i care for you yakhi

 

[mogstars]

he got hungry,thirsty and tired in the gospels.

Because Jesus Christ is a vessel, God limited himself to our form to suffer what we suffer. It is only fair.

 

[OHKAMI]

He suffers because of our sin? If u read the first 4 chapters of the bible you'll understand immediately how it works

brother he commits many of the sins himself lol like killing and envy and wrath

 

[Erwincel]

he has multiple desires?so his essence is compounded and in time and thus he is contigent and not self-sufficient.how then can he be 'God'?the definition of a god is not contigent and self sufficient in his essence(essences don't exist but speaking in conventional terms).a absolute being would have no craving or desire for anything,he lacks nothing,his essence would be complete and full and thus unchanging and thus permanent,in which case the monad concept makes more sense than the hindu or abrahamic or even deist 'god'.but I refuted neoplatonism in my other thread on the front page with my 'nothing can exist'thread.

See St. Thomas Aquinas

 

[yandex99]

Because Jesus Christ is a vessel, God limited himself to our form to suffer what we suffer. It is only fair.

unlimited in essence can never limit itself.a perfect being cannot act,seeing that it either gains or loses a state of perfection or good from action.

 

[yandex99]

See St. Thomas Aquinas

he's the most foolish of the philosophers.I used to be a thomist calvinist.

Sadrian emanationist neoplatonism brings his ideas to fruition.spinoza's monism is better than this.and nagarjuna is the ultimate truth.there ultimate truth is relinquishing all truths.life is a hare's horn,a married bachelor,a illusion like the city of gandharvas.

 

[emeraldglass]

dharmakirti said that if God if permanent,then how can he have cognitions?how can a permanent(unchanging)thing produce changing things?

also,if God has cognitions,he is dependant on the objects,different from him,to cognize said objects,his cognition and him as a cognizer is dependant on a object outside himself.he cannot be self-sufficient in his essence,btw essences don't exist anyway.

the entire idea of a God is silly.

In Islamic theology, the concept of God differs from the Dharmakirti's perspective. In Islam, Allah is believed to be eternal and unchanging, but His attributes, including knowledge, are not contingent on external objects.

Allah's cognition is not dependent on anything external because He is not limited by time, space, or any other constraints. His knowledge encompasses everything, past, present, and future, without needing external stimuli.

Allah's self sufficiency is inherent in His essence, as He is the Creator and Sustainer of all things, not reliant on anything outside of Himself for His existence or knowledge. Therefore, the argument presented by Dharmakirti does not apply within the framework of Islamic theology.

 

[yandex99]

In Islamic theology, the concept of God differs from the Dharmakirti's perspective. In Islam, Allah is believed to be eternal and unchanging, but His attributes, including knowledge, are not contingent on external objects.

Allah's cognition is not dependent on anything external because He is not limited by time, space, or any other constraints. His knowledge encompasses everything, past, present, and future, without needing external stimuli.

Allah's self sufficiency is inherent in His essence, as He is the Creator and Sustainer of all things, not reliant on anything outside of Himself for His existence or knowledge. Therefore, the argument presented by Dharmakirti does not apply within the framework of Islamic theology.

Yeah I studied the A'shari and Maturidi and the Al-ghazali texts,but only Sadrianism is the logical fruition of this and thomism.spinoza in his ethics goes further than neoplatonism in asserting there is only one essence that exists.nagarjuna destroys the very concept of an essence.

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[MonoTBB]

brother he commits many of the sins himself lol like killing and envy and wrath

Your blind

 

[yandex99]

Your blind

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

nothing matters.realizing this brings perfect equanimity(peace),which is better than scratching the constant itch of desire for sex,something you lack and must fulfill,the fulfillment being temporary always.

Buddha mogs.padmasambhava is 'God'as he is the compounded aggregate of all buddhas' mindstreams in one 'person'.

No it’s completely unnatural to abstain from sex and claim it’s just a short lived pleasure. In nature sex is to create children, ofc childless sex is meaningless

 

[yandex99]

No it’s completely unnatural to abstain from sex and claim it’s just a short lived pleasure. In nature sex is to create children, ofc childless sex is meaningless

agreed,but being antinatalist mogs

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

agreed,but being antinatalist mogs

Being antinatalist is absolute slave brain, they don’t want u to reproduce

 

[Swarthy Knight]

buddism and easter philosphy in general needs to fuck off. these motherfuckers are the ones who propagated the whole "sex doesnt matter", "you dont need women to be happy" agenda

You know that eastern religions in general is more sex positive and actually encouraged to some extent.. unlike Christianity where sex is muh sin muh lust

 

[mogstars]

unlimited in essence can never limit itself.a perfect being cannot act,seeing that it either gains or loses a state of perfection or good from action.

That is exactly why the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit are different in the trinity.

And if god is all-powerful he may do as he wishes, stop limiting God with your puny human limitations.