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I know my IPD is fucked, I know my UEE is fucked. My whole ratio is busted and shit. I don’t want to get hated on but is there anything I can do to fix the eye area. Is it a fat graft thing into my upper eyelids? Or will that just throw my shit even more out of whack. Am I stuck with this
 
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Well, no UEE doesnt change much for the better, I was just being honest.....
Fat grafts can’t do anything? Can you put in fillers above the eye? And what’s my “much worse problem”?
 
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you can absolutely reduce UEE
 
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also unrelated but you could try to improve your skin aswell
 
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Fat grafts can’t do anything? Can you put in fillers above the eye? And what’s my “much worse problem”?
I mean that getting rid of UEE wouldnt change your appearance so that it would change your life, you might be satisfied, yes.


Because you know some surgery/PSL terms, it's interesting that you dont know what your problem is and that's your midface and vertically long nose, which is something you can't change with any surgery.
 
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Bro the ratio is off the goop. It’s super rough and honestly been kinda hard to come to terms with, because my IPD is already shit and then I have a stretched out horse face and there’s literally nothing I can do about it. Shit makes you existential
Your ipd isnt shit. Its shit now because of your long nose. Morph yourself with a shorter midface and tada
 
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I mean that getting rid of UEE wouldnt change your appearance so that it would change your life, you might be satisfied, yes.


Because you know some surgery/PSL terms, it's interesting that you dont know what your problem is and that's your midface and vertically long nose, which is something you can't change with any surgery.
I was aware my mid face was long but I thought it was accentuated by my terrible IPD so I focused more on the IPD. So basically I’m fucked and can’t be fixed that’s actually goated. Okay so then what is the best I can look? 2.5-3 PSL? With good skin?
 
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Everyone is saying long midface, but what is your actual ratio mesaured from a pic taken with a 50+mm lens?

This is a selfie, everyones midface elongates on a selfie. And nose looks bigger. You know this right?
 
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Everyone is saying long midface, but what is your actual ratio mesaured from a pic taken with a 50+mm lens?

This is a selfie, everyones midface elongates on a selfie. And nose looks bigger. You know this right?
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Sorry I know you guys hate distortion. Here’s an attempt at a eye level lateral view, I was looking down in the first. I definitely have a horse face. I’m interested in my maximum SMV even with said horse face
 
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View attachment 1149417 Sorry I know you guys hate distortion. Here’s an attempt at a eye level lateral view, I was looking down in the first. I definitely have a horse face. I’m interested in my maximum SMV even with said horse face
Fucking brutal
 
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It can’t, there’s no surgery to shorten the face I’m assuming? Again, goated. Stuck with this horse action
Youre right, there isnt.
And none of your other features are "failos" - so theres nothing to fix really.

You just have to focus on other things, gym, style etc..
 
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Youre right, there isnt.
And none of your other features are "failos" - so theres nothing to fix really.

You just have to focus on other things, gym, style etc..
I really appreciate your help, seriously. I’m on acne pills and I’ve gone as hard as possible at the gym (pic). I have height on my side but I just dunno if I can get my SMV very high and that’s life I guess
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View attachment 1149417 Sorry I know you guys hate distortion. Here’s an attempt at a eye level lateral view, I was looking down in the first. I definitely have a horse face. I’m interested in my maximum SMV even with said horse face
Well, IPD is not as important for the midface ratio, because very close to each other eyes like the basketball player (i don't remember his name) has about 0.0001% of people in the world, you would have been very unlucky, if you have that......

Most of the long midfaces are just vertically long nose, usually 6-7 cm and more.

there are GL people and models with long midface, the problem is that nowadays its an unattractive flaw number one, because all GL celebrities and tiktok boys have short midface and practically every person can see that you have long midface.
 
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I was aware my mid face was long but I thought it was accentuated by my terrible IPD so I focused more on the IPD. So basically I’m fucked and can’t be fixed that’s actually goated. Okay so then what is the best I can look? 2.5-3 PSL? With good skin?
3 psl now
u will 4 psl with better skin better weight and better mental health
u are looking sadly now
 
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Well, IPD is not as important for the midface ratio, because very close to each other eyes like the basketball player (i don't remember his name) has about 0.0001% of people in the world, you would have been very unlucky, if you have that......

Most of the long midfaces are just vertically long nose, usually 6-7 cm and more.

there are GL people and models with long midface, the problem is that nowadays its an unattractive flaw number one, because all GL celebrities and tiktok boys have short midface and practically every person can see that you have long midface.
I fully understand, you explain extremely well. Thank you for the input. I’ve definitely struggled with self image because a lot of good looking people seem to all feature a great compact mid face, especially my brother who is a model (makes it tough, basically a daily reminder of my long face). Again thank you
 
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3 psl now
u will 4 psl with better skin better weight and better mental health
u are looking sadly now
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better weight? Should I increase my BF % higher than this? I can go on a bulk again if it will improve my looks. And I appreciate the mental health bit, I’ll work on that too
 
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I fully understand, you explain extremely well. Thank you for the input. I’ve definitely struggled with self image because a lot of good looking people seem to all feature a great compact mid face, especially my brother who is a model (makes it tough, basically a daily reminder of my long face). Again thank you
in short if you fix your UEE that wouldnt balance that you have number one unattractive trait.

think about it logically.
would you find a girl with a long midface attractive? lol


Im not trying to beat you down, I have a long midface myself, I'm just realistic
 
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in short if you fix your UEE that wouldnt balance that you have number one unattractive trait.

think about it logically.
would you find a girl with a long midface attractive? lol


Im not trying to beat you down, I have a long midface myself, I'm just realistic
No you’ve sold me, I get you. I guess girls suit midfaces less tho right, I feel like a male can work with a longer mid face a bit better than a girl can. It can be offset by a strong jawline etc. I’m not sure tho. I’m realistic too
 
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You look decent enough to get a girlfriend if your in highschool, you have decent bones, angularity and facial leanness, also nice hair and pheno, your skin isn’t that bad tbh my skin is 100x worse

how tall are you and where you from and are you in highschool
 
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You look decent enough to get a girlfriend if your in highschool, you have decent bones, angularity and facial leanness, also nice hair and pheno, your skin isn’t that bad tbh my skin is 100x worse
how tall are you and where you from and are you in highschool
23, law at Uni. 6 foot 2.
 
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I appreciate the response BTW
You look decent enough to get a girlfriend if your in highschool, you have decent bones, angularity and facial leanness, also nice hair and pheno, your skin isn’t that bad tbh my skin is 100x worse

how tall are you and where you from and are you in highschool
 
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- do whatever the guys above me told you to do about your eyes
- grow a beard
- you can rock a nice glasses
(this 2 will minimize your horse face and will make you look better imo)
- get tanned
- hairmax - change your hair color to something dark (black/brown) cause it looks like youre redheaded and maybe a better haircut
- skinmaxx
- fashionmax
- tattoomax

youre already fine but with the things i mentioned you'll be more than good i guess, good luck.
 
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I really appreciate your help, seriously
jfl i'd be able to help you more if there was a possibility of surgery

is this really you?
I feel like i've seen this exact image on /fit/ a few times

3 psl now
3 psl jfl
rather be silent when you have no idea what youre talking about

better weight? Should I increase my BF % higher than this? I can go on a bulk again if it will improve my looks. And I appreciate the mental health bit, I’ll work on that too
you've already reached the point of dimnishing returns (or maybe even passed it) when it comes to your physique
any futrther improvement (wihtout gear) will be very difficult - if bodybuilding is what you love doing, then do it, but if you're expecting some looks or lifestyle boost from it, I think you will be dissapointed

Look at it this way - you can separate women into 2 categories: those who like bodybuilders, and those who dont
The vast majority is of course in the second category, and for them your phyisque is already amazing
For the women in the first category, IMO its not worth it to roid just to satisfy their fetish

in short if you fix your UEE that wouldnt balance that you have number one unattractive trait.
fixing UEE is not as simple
depending on your exact case (I have no idea which one you are form just a few pics), it can either just fillers/fat grafts, or a whole supraorbital implant
trying to fix an issue that requires an implant with fillers/fat grafts is a mistake

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Here in this pic taken from a distance your midface comes out as 1
Are you tilting your head up in this frame? Are you really sure you have a horseface?

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Here it comes out as 0.9, but this is a selfie.
Also I hope youre aware that posts in the lookmaxing section cant be edited or deleted after a certian period of time (and i wont buy premium because of you so pm me if you want them to stay private/take them off the forum some day)

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Also, I dont know what is your goal in terms of looksmaxing (or making this post).
 
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I really appreciate your help, seriously. I’m on acne pills and I’ve gone as hard as possible at the gym (pic). I have height on my side but I just dunno if I can get my SMV very high and that’s life I guess View attachment 1149424
Mirin, how long did this take and are u natty?
 
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Only midface is the problem, the rest is fine including IPD.
 
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View attachment 1149417 Sorry I know you guys hate distortion. Here’s an attempt at a eye level lateral view, I was looking down in the first. I definitely have a horse face. I’m interested in my maximum SMV even with said horse face
Here is what I would recommend chap:
Inject MT 2 and tan
Accutane for skin
Dye hair dark
Coloured contacts for eyes (blue)
Thicker neck
Well-groomed facial hair if possible
Lip filler to improve midface + FWHR (do not overfill!)
Dye your eyebrows black
Upper eyelid filler OR if you don't want to spend the money then try ice hooding + eyelid pulling to reduce upper eyelid.

Everything after this would be a hardmax
I don't have a side profile but you might have negative orbital vector. If you do then infraorbital rim implant will ascend you also.
With all of these you could ascend to above average face easily + with height + physique you could do well.
GL
 
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legit u look really good minus the long nose . too bad that fucks up ur entire face . u still look average
 
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jfl i'd be able to help you more if there was a possibility of surgery


is this really you?
I feel like i've seen this exact image on /fit/ a few times


3 psl jfl
rather be silent when you have no idea what youre talking about


you've already reached the point of dimnishing returns (or maybe even passed it) when it comes to your physique
any futrther improvement (wihtout gear) will be very difficult - if bodybuilding is what you love doing, then do it, but if you're expecting some looks or lifestyle boost from it, I think you will be dissapointed

Look at it this way - you can separate women into 2 categories: those who like bodybuilders, and those who dont
The vast majority is of course in the second category, and for them your phyisque is already amazing
For the women in the first category, IMO its not worth it to roid just to satisfy their fetish


fixing UEE is not as simple
depending on your exact case (I have no idea which one you are form just a few pics), it can either just fillers/fat grafts, or a whole supraorbital implant
trying to fix an issue that requires an implant with fillers/fat grafts is a mistake

(deleted pic)
Here in this pic taken from a distance your midface comes out as 1
Are you tilting your head up in this frame? Are you really sure you have a horseface?

(deleted pic)
Here it comes out as 0.9, but this is a selfie.
Also I hope youre aware that posts in the lookmaxing section cant be edited or deleted after a certian period of time (and i wont buy premium because of you so pm me if you want them to stay private/take them off the forum some day)

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Also, I dont know what is your goal in terms of looksmaxing (or making this post).
Thank you so much for this info. Yes that is my physique, and I appreciate the info re roids. The goal of the post was to see if there were any smaller injectable routes to take for my eye area, so your post really helped
 
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Thank you so much for this info. Yes that is my physique, and I appreciate the info re roids. The goal of the post was to see if there were any smaller injectable routes to take for my eye area, so your post really helped
its also important to realize/know that UEE is not always bad
there any many very GL people with UEE
uee in of itself is not bad - UEE caused by supraorbital thats too high/rounded is bad, or uee that caused by hollow space above eye is also bad
 
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Do you have any pictures of someone with a high/rounded supra? Sorry still trying to learn it all
its also important to realize/know that UEE is not always bad
there any many very GL people with UEE
uee in of itself is not bad - UEE caused by supraorbital thats too high/rounded is bad, or uee that caused by hollow space above eye is also bad
 
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Do you have any pictures of someone with a high/rounded supra? Sorry still trying to learn it all
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this is an extreme level of roundness and height
the shape of the eyebrows almost always mirrors the shape of the supraorbital
however you can have a low supra, but high eyebrows - its rare, but some models do have it
but the beginning of the eyebrow always is right on the supra - if someone has higher eyebrows than supras, it usually means that just the end is higher

like here
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this is an extreme level of roundness and height
the shape of the eyebrows almost always mirrors the shape of the supraorbital
however you can have a low supra, but high eyebrows - its rare, but some models do have it
but the beginning of the eyebrow always is right on the supra - if someone has higher eyebrows than supras, it usually means that just the end is higher

like here
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Again, amazing info thank you. So in this picture do my eyebrows follow the orbitals? I can see they sit visibly higher than your second picture (the model), so I’m assuming mine are definitely on the higher end?
 
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Again, amazing info thank you. So in this picture do my eyebrows follow the orbitals? I can see they sit visibly higher than your second picture (the model), so I’m assuming mine are definitely on the higher end?
Yes, yours are on the higher end
the higher the eyebrows are, the younger, more childlish you look like - which again is not necessarily a bad thing, there is an entire subcategory of models we call 'prettyboys'

but youre not a prettyboy are you jfl
it is a failo in your case for sure, but there isnt really a wat to change that (without drastic measures)

also - high eyebrows can contribute to midface looking longer
just like short chin can make midface look (optically) longer than it is
 
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Yes, yours are on the higher end
the higher the eyebrows are, the younger, more childlish you look like - which again is not necessarily a bad thing, there is an entire subcategory of models we call 'prettyboys'

but youre not a prettyboy are you jfl
it is a failo in your case for sure, but there isnt really a wat to change that (without drastic measures)

also - high eyebrows can contribute to midface looking longer
just like short chin can make midface look (optically) longer than it is
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If I elongate my chin would it provide any balance? I’m assuming it’s already as long as it can be without looking ridiculous
 

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