Cange my mind: how you present yourself matters a lot after you have reached normie level...

[Germania]

... in terms of general social conditions, women, work, conversation, life in general

 

[Deleted member 7776]

It's simply not true, otherwise normies wouldn't have deadbedroomsyndrome nowadays.

Looks are everything

 

[Deleted member 5292]

What do you mean by "how you present yourself"?

 

[Germania]

What do you mean by "how you present yourself"?

aka personality, "game", lifestyle

 

[Deleted member 5292]

aka personality, "game", lifestyle

The better your personality and game the higher your chances of getting some foids. But chad can be giga autistic and slay while he talks about anime and video games.

 

[Germania]

The better your personality and game the higher your chances of getting some foids. But chad can be giga autistic and slay while he talks about anime and video games.

maybe a O'Pry lvl Chad

 

[Deleted member 5292]

maybe a O'Pry lvl Chad

I had a friend in hs who was almost retarded and slayed like mad. And he was marginally better looking than me. This shit is binary, you are either on one side of the threshold or the other. And the threshold is not as high as you think. But you need to be a proper chad, not chadlite.

 

[Patient A]

I had a friend in hs who was almost retarded and slayed like mad. And he was marginally better looking than me. This shit is binary, you are either on one side of the threshold or the other. And the threshold is not as high as you think. But you need to be a proper chad, not chadlite.

I can be the discreet judge of “marginally”

 

[Deleted member 5292]

I can be the discreet judge of “marginally”

I dont have recent pics of the chad. This was in 2005-2007 and i dont have pics of him at that time. You can search pics of me in the forum, I think i am chadlite taking into account physique and height, but without proper zygos i ll never be a chad.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

cange's me

 

[Patient A]

I dont have recent pics of the chad. This was in 2005-2007 and i dont have pics of him at that time. You can search pics of me in the forum, I think i am chadlite taking into account physique and height, but without proper zygos i ll never be a chad.

old ass man

indeed you will never be chad you must be 30 year old at least by now?

 

[Deleted member 5292]

old ass man

indeed you will never be chad you must be 30 year old at least by now?

I look 20 at most.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

It's simply not true, otherwise normies wouldn't have deadbedroomsyndrome nowadays.

Looks are everything

"looks are everything" says the guy who's parents are shelling out thousands of dollars for his surgeries

if you had any logic at all you'd be able to see that there is at least one other thing that matters. Especially when the post is about

general social conditions, women, work, conversation, life in general

 

[Deleted member 1862]

old ass man

indeed you will never be chad you must be 30 year old at least by now?

 

[Deleted member 7776]

"looks are everything" says the guy who's parents are shelling out thousands of dollars for his surgeries

if you had any logic at all you'd be able to see that there is at least one other thing that matters. Especially when the post is about

I'm not sure I understand, how does my post contradict the fact my parents are shelling out thousands of dollars for my surgeries?

 

[lutte]

it's true anyone who says it's not is delusional

 

[johncruz12345]

I had a friend in hs who was almost retarded and slayed like mad. And he was marginally better looking than me. This shit is binary, you are either on one side of the threshold or the other. And the threshold is not as high as you think. But you need to be a proper chad, not chadlite.

You say this, but I know a guy who is the exact opposite. He's pretty much a legit 3/10, but slays like mad, cuz he is giga NT.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

I'm not sure I understand, how does my post contradict the fact my parents are shelling out thousands of dollars for my surgeries?

I'm saying that looks are clearly not everything, and using money as an example.

If you have two people who both have massive underbites but come from opposite ends of the spectrum wealth wise, is it over for both of them? No, because the rich person can improve their situation a great deal.

Also would be worthwhile to add that whilst normies do tend to be NT, they don't present themselves in the same way a 7PSL male does. This is because your personality is (in part) a product of environment and past experiences.

So with this in mind, I'd say a normie could probably get a slightly better quality of life through the things that OP is talking about. More importantly though, being well socialised => connections => more opportunities => more money => surgery/ softmaxxing tools.

 

[Deleted member 7776]

I'm saying that looks are clearly not everything, and using money as an example.

If you have two people who both have massive underbites but come from opposite ends of the spectrum wealth wise, is it over for both of them? No, because the rich person can improve their situation a great deal.

Also would be worthwhile to add that whilst normies do tend to be NT, they don't present themselves in the same way a 7PSL male does. This is because your personality is (in part) a product of environment and past experiences.

So with this in mind, I'd say a normie could probably get a slightly better quality of life through the things that OP is talking about. More importantly though, being well socialised => connections => more opportunities => more money => surgery/ softmaxxing tools.

No, you can't be well-socialized if you're normie-tier in terms of looks. People will ignore you and focus on the top (Chads). So you need money to get Chad looks, then Chad looks to be well-socialized, and that being well-socialized will get you even more connections and thus money.

 

[Germania]

No, you can't be well-socialized if you're normie-tier in terms of looks. People will ignore you and focus on the top (Chads). So you need money to get Chad looks, then Chad looks to be well-socialized, and that being well-socialized will get you even more connections and thus money.

that's not true, especially since real Chads are rare, they are like 1 in 10.000

 

[Deleted member 5292]

that's not true, especially since real Chads are rare, they are like 1 in 10.000

Thats giga chad territory. Chad is 1/100 to 1/500 depending on location.

 

[Germania]

Thats giga chad territory. Chad is 1/100 to 1/500 depending on location.

i don't agree
i rarely see a guy i would even describe as good looking aka high tier normie
Location: Germany

 

[Deleted member 7776]

i don't agree
i rarely see a guy i would even describe as good looking aka high tier normie
Location: Germany

Same tbh but what I said I still mean it

 

[Deleted member 5292]

Go to miami or california then

i don't agree
i rarely see a guy i would even describe as good looking aka high tier normie
Location: Germany

 

[Patient A]

i don't agree
i rarely see a guy i would even describe as good looking aka high tier normie
Location: Germany

Hmmm do you leave the house ?

 

[Germania]

Hmmm do you leave the house ?

Sure, I live in the center of a big city.

 

[Patient A]

Sure, I live in the center of a big city.

I think you may have a warped view of the world — or you live in subhuman central but I very much doubt it.

 

[Deleted member 9288]

ms paint edits me

 

[Deleted member 7098]

OP is right, once you've made it to 5-6/10 you can have very good results if your game is good

 

[Deleted member 1862]

is this ftm tranny?

not sure if trolling but that's legit @ablanc10

 

[Deleted member 1751]

Depends on what you mean by a normie. In some places guys will be better Looking on average while some other places they'll be really unattractive. Where i live normies are short with bad skin , bloated and have dark circles under eyes. I heard that in Northern Europe, normies are tall, muscular and have the typical " Aryan" phenotype.

Anyways you have to be above average everywhere to be successful with women. Being a normie won't cut it.

 

[Deleted member 6512]

Of course, a study showed that a guy who was photoshopped in a luxury apartment had an increase in attractivness.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Of course, a study showed that a guy who was photoshopped in a luxury apartment had an increase in attractivness.

people don't realise that if you're just trying to get laid on tinder you can EASILY do it if you are/ pretend to be rich jfl

 

[Deleted member 6512]

people don't realise that if you're just trying to get laid on tinder you can EASILY do it if you are/ pretend to be rich jfl

"Muh she just wants your money"
Who gives a fuck what she thinks pay for a coffee and fuck her and ghost her.

 

[CeeJay]

Game doesn't do anything. Spergers or awkwardness turns women off after they already like your looks enough.

Everything but looks is a scam.

 

[Deleted member 6512]

Game doesn't do anything. Spergers or awkwardness turns women off after they already like your looks enough.

Everything but looks is a scam.

It's not this black and white, I'd say it's like this:
1) girls who find you repulsive no matter what, the lower your PSL the more those are
2) girls who find you decent looking but not enough to feel the "sparkle" and those are the women you can bang via social circle game, status game, mere exposure effect, happened to me too, most normies fall here
3) girls who find you attractive and will let you fuck on the spot, the higher your PSL the more those are.

 

[CeeJay]

It's not this black and white, I'd say it's like this:
1) girls who find you repulsive no matter what, the lower your PSL the more those are
2) girls who find you decent looking but not enough to feel the "sparkle" and those are the women you can bang via social circle game, status game, mere exposure effect, happened to me too, most normies fall here
3) girls who find you attractive and will let you fuck on the spot, the higher your PSL the more those are.

There's no such thing as the 2nd one IMO. It's not that they don't feel a sparkle until he shows his "great game" or w.e. people assert, it's just that they're not good enough to be like the 3rd or some dude she's gonna drool over.

But the physical attraction is already there to at least some extent because of looks.

 

[Germania]

Nr. 1 Slayer i know irl. He is hardcore NT, knows many people, presents a good lifestyle and is all in all a cool and charming guy. He had a new girl every week, not kidding.

 

[Deleted member 6512]

There's no such thing as the 2nd one IMO. It's not that they don't feel a sparkle until he shows his "great game" or w.e. people assert, it's just that they're not good enough to be like the 3rd or some dude she's gonna drool over.

But the physical attraction is already there to at least some extent because of looks.

I don't believe in game neither, but we are saying the same thing basically, when a guy is not gl enough to give her the spark and not ugly enough to be repulsive.
There is low attraction in this case but it can grow via mere exposure effect or other halos. Happened to me both ways: first gf i wasn't that much into her at first but then one day i just fell in love with her, and at that time i had options. Another girl i banged her after 2 months of "friendship" when at first she curved me. She didn't fuck anyone inbetween (i posed as gay as a joke and she believed it so she was confessing me everything) despite being in dating apps and messaging better looking guys than me.

 

[Germania]

I don't believe in game neither, but we are saying the same thing basically, when a guy is not gl enough to give her the spark and not ugly enough to be repulsive.
There is low attraction in this case but it can grow via mere exposure effect or other halos. Happened to me both ways: first gf i wasn't that much into her at first but then one day i just fell in love with her, and at that time i had options. Another girl i banged her after 2 months of "friendship" when at first she curved me. She didn't fuck anyone inbetween (i posed as gay as a joke and she believed it so she was confessing me everything) despite being in dating apps and messaging better looking guys than me.

Game means communiction skills, nothing more nothing less.

 

[Deleted member 6512]

Game means communiction skills, nothing more nothing less.

So basically being NT

 

[Germania]

So basically being NT

Mhmmm... you can have good communiction skills without being NT. I can advise the book "How To Win Friends And Influence People" which deserves more like a different name "How to talk to people". Thats all the "Game" one needs in my opinion.

 

[Bitch]

aka personality, "game", lifestyle

Aka being rich.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

"Muh she just wants your money"
Who gives a fuck what she thinks pay for a coffee and fuck her and ghost her.

exactly

 

[Deleted member 5292]

is this ftm tranny?

I can brake your skull easily.

 

[Deleted member 5292]

giga over for you mozart:

 

[Deleted member 5292]

@ConorMcGregor JFL at the tranny rage

ask on other sites if you don’t believe me.
i was trying to help you. you have man-boobs, some awkward far distribution, no bones or facial hair and rock the same hair cut as elen degenerate

I have top 0.1% chest retard. Have you ever step into a gym phaggot?
I have bones except for zygos.

 

[Deleted member 5292]

why do you dress like tranny if you are that build lol

i don‘t get it

to troll phaggots like you.

 

[Deleted member 6512]

@ConorMcGregor JFL at the tranny rage

ask on other sites if you don’t believe me.
i was trying to help you. you have man-boobs, some awkward far distribution, no bones or facial hair and rock the same hair cut as elen degenerate

He always says the same things jfl at this "breaking skull" bullshit

 

[Deleted member 7098]

to troll phaggots like you.

jfl if you step out of your house like that