Clarifying my Views on the Ideal Male Height (5'9")

[Deleted member 7725]

** Read the whole thing before replying. All of my mentions of 5'9" are barefoot and completely unfrauded. I'm not talking about a 5'6" small framed peanut-skulled wimp who larps as 5'9" **

So a lot of retards have been trying to exaggerate my views or take things I say out of context. "5'2" iS iDEaL heIGHt bRo".

I never said 5'9" is ideal on its own in the absence of any correlating features. I have always said 5'9" is ideal height for all around aesthetics and having ONS. I've said this since I first joined a year and a half ago and would only post here once a month. If someone is 5'9" with skinny wrists, bad frame, long unproportional skull and body, terrible gymmaxxing potential, etc. then it's completely over for him. 99% of 5'9" men don't have any of these issues, compared to like 75% of men 6' and 99% of men > 6'5".

When it comes to having ONS, girls want a really good face and body. You need masculine width and proportions as that's what girls are looking for in ONS. At 5'9", you'll have good facial proportions and robustness since you're not too short to where you will have a wimp skull, and not too tall where you will have a long narrow skull (or sometimes ogre too).

All of the height studies only take height on its own. They don't take their faces, frames, proportions, bodies, etc into account so they are inherently flawed. Girls will imagine a hot guy who fits all their facial/body/proportions criteria and then basically just manifest an arbitrary height number to them because of social standards for women to date tall men without calculating what it will do to their aesthetics.

Taller guys will have longer faces, less robust features, worse frames, worse proportions ie. unproportionally long skinny legs, wide hips, skinny long forearms, small-looking skull, narrow face, etc. People who don't have these issues and are perfectly proportional and aesthetic are like 1/10,000,000. Obviously girls will be attracted to them since they're so exceedingly rare. He'll still get bested by someone with a better looking face regardless. Compared to like 99% of 5'9" men fitting this criteria it's not a fair comparison.

Also your dick size will appear smaller in comparison to your height, so you will likely not get callbacks or word might spread around.

Only person I've seen come close to this is Francisco Lachowski, but he never tried to gymmaxx and probably would've had difficulty doing it without roids and would easily develop inbalances, unlike his 5'9" counterparts.


Stable LTR boyfriend vs ONS comparison:

 

[Sens]

 

[Deleted member 7509]

I think 5'9 is a bit on the shorter side. 6'0 is perfect, and ideal.

but 5'9 doesn't pull ur appeal down, unless the girl is same height or taller than you. A 5'6 girl choosing between a 5'9 guy with good face, and 6'0 guy with average face, will choose a 5'9 guy

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Talla the beta

 

[gamma]

 

[Deleted member 7725]

I think 5'9 is a bit on the shorter side. 6'0 is perfect, and ideal

but 5'9 doesn't pull ur appeal down, unless the girl is same height or taller than you.

5'9"-5'10" unfrauded = 6' by normie standards. Problem is too many 5'5" faggots will say they're 5'9" because they think faking their height will make them attractive. Then they complain that they can't get girls despite being "muh average height is 5'9"" while simultaneously having a small skull and frame and wearing 4 inch lifts whenever they step outside further fucking up their proportions.

 

[Deleted member 7509]

5'9"-5'10" unfrauded = 6' by normie standards. Problem is too many 5'5" faggots will say they're 5'9" because they think faking their height will make them attractive.

true. I am 5'10 in the morning, and I heightmog about 50% of the guys I see. Kinda implies I am average, which is true for my height in US

 

[Frank Jack]

 

[Constantin Denis]

Cope. 4'5 is the ideal height. Anything over will make you look deformed. 4'5 men are sex havers while many tall men are incels. Just look at how robust Peter Dinklage is. Look at his frame and his warrior skull. Also his smaller size allows him to hide better so that makes him better at hunting/providing.

 

[oldcelloser]

lies; everybody knows the optimal height is 6'- 6'2" ; giraffe maxxin like this forum worships will have you be excluded by a lot of girls since they cant reach your face
also i dont give a shit about "frame" with enough trianing and shit ton of roids everyone will eventaully have the width, the condition etc; look at Phil Heath for example (Mr O) insane body and yet in HS he was a skinny twink who couldnt even make the top basketball leagues and was mogged by everybody else especially in height; but he claims elite genetics and elite ball status like all these fraudsters do
just be on 10 grams of gear a week theory is real as it can be
and no you wont die at 50 as a bodybuilder

 

[andy9432]

Ive noticed alot of tall people have horrible postures as desk work etc school college really isnt for them, which in turn makes their faces abnormally long

 

[Skrocle]

as a 5'9 man, I agree with this thread without reading anything

 

[Alexanderr]

** Read the whole thing before replying. All of my mentions of 5'9" are barefoot and completely unfrauded. I'm not talking about a 5'6" small framed peanut-skulled wimp who larps as 5'9" **

So a lot of retards have been trying to exaggerate my views or take things I say out of context. "5'2" iS iDEaL heIGHt bRo".

I never said 5'9" is ideal on its own in the absence of any correlating features. I have always said 5'9" is ideal height for all around aesthetics and having ONS. I've said this since I first joined a year and a half ago and would only post here once a month. If someone is 5'9" with skinny wrists, bad frame, long unproportional skull and body, terrible gymmaxxing potential, etc. then it's completely over for him. 99% of 5'9" men don't have any of these issues, compared to like 75% of men 6' and 99% of men > 6'5".

When it comes to having ONS, girls want a really good face and body. You need masculine width and proportions as that's what girls are looking for in ONS. At 5'9", you'll have good facial proportions and robustness since you're not too short to where you will have a wimp skull, and not too tall where you will have a long narrow skull (or sometimes ogre too).

All of the height studies only take height on its own. They don't take their faces, frames, proportions, bodies, etc into account so they are inherently flawed. Girls will imagine a hot guy who fits all their facial/body/proportions criteria and then basically just manifest an arbitrary height number to them because of social standards for women to date tall men without calculating what it will do to their aesthetics.

Taller guys will have longer faces, less robust features, worse frames, worse proportions ie. unproportionally long skinny legs, wide hips, skinny long forearms, small-looking skull, narrow face, etc. People who don't have these issues and are perfectly proportional and aesthetic are like 1/10,000,000. Obviously girls will be attracted to them since they're so exceedingly rare. He'll still get bested by someone with a better looking face regardless. Compared to like 99% of 5'9" men fitting this criteria it's not a fair comparison.

Also your dick size will appear smaller in comparison to your height, so you will likely not get callbacks or word might spread around.

Only person I've seen come close to this is Francisco Lachowski, but he never tried to gymmaxx and probably would've had difficulty doing it without roids and would easily develop inbalances, unlike his 5'9" counterparts.


Stable LTR boyfriend vs ONS comparison:

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You criticize the studies for being inherently flawed while arbitrarily choosing 5’9 as the ideal, why not 5’8 or 5’10?

 

[Grindr God]

** Read the whole thing before replying. All of my mentions of 5'9" are barefoot and completely unfrauded. I'm not talking about a 5'6" small framed peanut-skulled wimp who larps as 5'9" **

So a lot of retards have been trying to exaggerate my views or take things I say out of context. "5'2" iS iDEaL heIGHt bRo".

I never said 5'9" is ideal on its own in the absence of any correlating features. I have always said 5'9" is ideal height for all around aesthetics and having ONS. I've said this since I first joined a year and a half ago and would only post here once a month. If someone is 5'9" with skinny wrists, bad frame, long unproportional skull and body, terrible gymmaxxing potential, etc. then it's completely over for him. 99% of 5'9" men don't have any of these issues, compared to like 75% of men 6' and 99% of men > 6'5".

When it comes to having ONS, girls want a really good face and body. You need masculine width and proportions as that's what girls are looking for in ONS. At 5'9", you'll have good facial proportions and robustness since you're not too short to where you will have a wimp skull, and not too tall where you will have a long narrow skull (or sometimes ogre too).

All of the height studies only take height on its own. They don't take their faces, frames, proportions, bodies, etc into account so they are inherently flawed. Girls will imagine a hot guy who fits all their facial/body/proportions criteria and then basically just manifest an arbitrary height number to them because of social standards for women to date tall men without calculating what it will do to their aesthetics.

Taller guys will have longer faces, less robust features, worse frames, worse proportions ie. unproportionally long skinny legs, wide hips, skinny long forearms, small-looking skull, narrow face, etc. People who don't have these issues and are perfectly proportional and aesthetic are like 1/10,000,000. Obviously girls will be attracted to them since they're so exceedingly rare. He'll still get bested by someone with a better looking face regardless. Compared to like 99% of 5'9" men fitting this criteria it's not a fair comparison.

Also your dick size will appear smaller in comparison to your height, so you will likely not get callbacks or word might spread around.

Only person I've seen come close to this is Francisco Lachowski, but he never tried to gymmaxx and probably would've had difficulty doing it without roids and would easily develop inbalances, unlike his 5'9" counterparts.


Stable LTR boyfriend vs ONS comparison:

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6'7 is ideal if you're broad and filled out.

but i've enough men over 6'2 that are sickly thin looking.

 

[DrTony]

** Read the whole thing before replying. All of my mentions of 5'9" are barefoot and completely unfrauded. I'm not talking about a 5'6" small framed peanut-skulled wimp who larps as 5'9" **

So a lot of retards have been trying to exaggerate my views or take things I say out of context. "5'2" iS iDEaL heIGHt bRo".

I never said 5'9" is ideal on its own in the absence of any correlating features. I have always said 5'9" is ideal height for all around aesthetics and having ONS. I've said this since I first joined a year and a half ago and would only post here once a month. If someone is 5'9" with skinny wrists, bad frame, long unproportional skull and body, terrible gymmaxxing potential, etc. then it's completely over for him. 99% of 5'9" men don't have any of these issues, compared to like 75% of men 6' and 99% of men > 6'5".

When it comes to having ONS, girls want a really good face and body. You need masculine width and proportions as that's what girls are looking for in ONS. At 5'9", you'll have good facial proportions and robustness since you're not too short to where you will have a wimp skull, and not too tall where you will have a long narrow skull (or sometimes ogre too).

All of the height studies only take height on its own. They don't take their faces, frames, proportions, bodies, etc into account so they are inherently flawed. Girls will imagine a hot guy who fits all their facial/body/proportions criteria and then basically just manifest an arbitrary height number to them because of social standards for women to date tall men without calculating what it will do to their aesthetics.

Taller guys will have longer faces, less robust features, worse frames, worse proportions ie. unproportionally long skinny legs, wide hips, skinny long forearms, small-looking skull, narrow face, etc. People who don't have these issues and are perfectly proportional and aesthetic are like 1/10,000,000. Obviously girls will be attracted to them since they're so exceedingly rare. He'll still get bested by someone with a better looking face regardless. Compared to like 99% of 5'9" men fitting this criteria it's not a fair comparison.

Also your dick size will appear smaller in comparison to your height, so you will likely not get callbacks or word might spread around.

Only person I've seen come close to this is Francisco Lachowski, but he never tried to gymmaxx and probably would've had difficulty doing it without roids and would easily develop inbalances, unlike his 5'9" counterparts.


Stable LTR boyfriend vs ONS comparison:

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I am 5"9 and had 89 slays all in America in 3 years and a few months. I am very passive and I don't actively approach so mostly online game (with a few insta models scattered in there) but my conversion is very high for some reason. I think I would have more if I was 6ft but I have no way of knowing. Logic says I would. In any case, all else being equal taller is better I feel. If not for slaying in terms of sheer numbers, for more respect from other dudes.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

You criticize the studies for being inherently flawed while arbitrarily choosing 5’9 as the ideal, why not 5’8 or 5’10?

5'8"-5'10" is all fine. Just a general range. You can see the best looking people are all in that range. All of the slayers I know are around that height with good frames and faces.

 

[Pakicel]

5'9"-5'10" unfrauded = 6' by normie standards. Problem is too many 5'5" faggots will say they're 5'9" because they think faking their height will make them attractive. Then they complain that they can't get girls despite being "muh average height is 5'9"" while simultaneously having a small skull and frame and wearing 4 inch lifts whenever they step outside further fucking up their proportions.

This. A lot of niggas don't even measure themselves properly. Then there's me who has probably measured himself hundreds of times on under different conditions like an autist.

 

[Pakicel]

5'8"-5'10" is all fine. Just a general range. You can see the best looking people are all in that range. All of the slayers I know are around that height with good frames and faces.

This is cope. I guess that being too tall can be a failo but the ideal range is 6'1"-6'3" imo. Tall but not gangly. But I just think this entire post is an excuse for you not to take advantage of your height. There is a reasonably large niche of women who would fuck you just because of your height as long as you are at least normie (which you are).

 

[Deleted member 7725]

6'7 is ideal if you're broad and filled out.

but i've enough men over 6'2 that are sickly thin looking.

That's a huge "if". 99% of 6'7" guys don't have the frame or genetics to do that. Neither do most 6'2" guys either. Only way is to use roids which will fuck up your hair. This guy is like 1/100,000,000:

But then PSLers will say that's the average 6'7" guy. No shit your views are the way they are if you believe that. Meanwhile the average 6'7" guy looks like this after 3 years of lifting with a long ass narrow face and frame:

 

[stewiegriffin]

Bro enough of these threads.

it is so clear how wrong u are and I don’t even feel like arguing because I know I’ll wake up and you’ll make the same autistic thread tm

 

[Grindr God]

That's a huge "if". 99% of 6'7" guys don't have the frame or genetics to do that. Neither do most 6'2" guys either. Only way is to use roids which will fuck up your hair. This guy is like 1/100,000,000:

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But then PSLers will say that's the average 6'7" guy. No shit your views are the way they are if you believe that. Meanwhile the average 6'7" guy looks like this after 3 years of lifting with a long ass narrow face and frame:

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Well he can get bigger in the picture.

Ectomorph body type is horrible to deal with short or tall…

for me at 6 ft, I can get fat relatively easy. But it’s very difficult for me to get stronger which is a genetic thing

I hate my genetics when it comes to body building always look like shit in that area

 

[khvirgin]

@MyAssStinksLikeShit is 5'8, so that's the ideal male height

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Would u say gymmaxing natural is worth it for a 5 feet 9 guy?

 

[Phillybeard1996]

Well he can get bigger in the picture.

Ectomorph body type is horrible to deal with short or tall…

for me at 6 ft, I can get fat relatively easy. But it’s very difficult for me to get stronger which is a genetic thing

I hate my genetics when it comes to body building always look like shit in that area

How can one tell if they are a ecto?

 

[Grindr God]

How can one tell if they are a ecto?

Ecto is like a weird person that stays very thin eating anything.
It can also be a person that struggles to build any strength

 

[Foreverbrad]

Should everyone height fraud to 6'0 really?

I'm 6'2" but I can see the benefits that claiming 6'0 would bring, including the number not intimidating foids and being able to humiliate any guy 6'1 or less by implied height fraud.

 

[Deleted member 14160]

@LooksOverAll Let us extend an olive branch to one another on this auspicious day friend.
Let us meet each other half way at 6ft being ideal for facial aesthetics, eh, ol’ pal?

 

[Deleted member 7725]

@LooksOverAll Let us extend an olive branch to one another on this auspicious day friend.
Let us meet each other half way at 6ft being ideal for facial aesthetics, eh, ol’ pal?

No. 5'9". All the most attractive men to women are 5'8"-5'10", depending on how much/if they're frauding.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Well he can get bigger in the picture.

Ectomorph body type is horrible to deal with short or tall…

for me at 6 ft, I can get fat relatively easy. But it’s very difficult for me to get stronger which is a genetic thing

I hate my genetics when it comes to body building always look like shit in that area

I'm so sorry to hear your situation man. You most likely wouldn't have that problem if you were 5'9".

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Should everyone height fraud to 6'0 really?

I'm 6'2" but I can see the benefits that claiming 6'0 would bring, including the number not intimidating foids and being able to humiliate any guy 6'1 or less by implied height fraud.

No, that's retarded. You need to be born 5'9". Trying to fraud lower than your height is the same as someone who is 5'5" trying to fraud 5'9" thinking just saying the words will make them more attractive. You need to actually look and have the development of someone who is 5'9".

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Bro enough of these threads.

it is so clear how wrong u are and I don’t even feel like arguing because I know I’ll wake up and you’ll make the same autistic thread tm

Last I remembered you claimed you can't build any muscle and you have a skinny fat lanklet body. You have a gf so I assume your face is good, but if you were 5'9" your face would be better, frame would be more proportional, and you wouldn't have any issue building muscle.

 

[Deleted member 7580]

I am 5"9 and had 89 slays all in America in 3 years and a few months. I am very passive and I don't actively approach so mostly online game (with a few insta models scattered in there) but my conversion is very high for some reason. I think I would have more if I was 6ft but I have no way of knowing. Logic says I would. In any case, all else being equal taller is better I feel. If not for slaying in terms of sheer numbers, for more respect from other dudes.

do they know youre 5'9 before you meet them ?

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Would u say gymmaxing natural is worth it for a 5 feet 9 guy?

Stop asking him like he's an expert you fucking spastic

He is incel at 6'7 as his face isn't recognised as human

He had surgeries to let normal people know he wasn't alien, and so now they serve him at the supermarket rather than press the emergency button underneath their cash-till, but that's it.

 

[Deleted member 14160]

No. 5'9". All the most attractive men to women are 5'8"-5'10", depending on how much/if they're frauding.

Ok bhai 5’9 it is. Merry Christmas again

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Stop asking him like he's an expert you fucking spastic

He is incel at 6'7 as his face isn't recognised as human

He had surgeries to let normal people know he wasn't alien, and so now they serve him at the supermarket rather than press the emergency button underneath their cash-till, but that's it.

Just because I'm ugly doesn't mean I'm not able to learn shit. I thought you blocked me?

 

[stewiegriffin]

Last I remembered you claimed you can't build any muscle and you have a skinny fat lanklet body. You have a gf so I assume your face is good, but if you were 5'9" your face would be better, frame would be more proportional, and you wouldn't have any issue building muscle.

I’m 6’5 and lanklet and haven’t worked out or eaten in surplus in years so I can put on weight if I’m not lazy. Either way I’d choose my height and body any single day of the year over 5’9 with a better frame.

I literally get a compliment every single time I meet a girl, “oh my god your so tall” with a blushing smile and all men I talk to have to look up to me like I’m their father. Why would I trade that for a bigger shoulder width JFL

 

[Deleted member 7725]

I’m 6’5 and lanklet and haven’t worked out or eaten in surplus in years so I can put on weight if I’m not lazy. Either way I’d choose my height and body any single day of the year over 5’9 with a better frame.

I literally get a compliment every single time I meet a girl, “oh my god your so tall” with a blushing smile and all men I talk to have to look up to me like I’m their father. Why would I trade that for a bigger shoulder width JFL

How do you know you can? If you already have a skinny fat body despite not eating much, you'll probably become a bloat lord when you try and bulk.

5'9" will automatically give you a better frame and face just by logic given your current base. Take your current face and slightly shrink it and apply sagittal growth to compensate for it and boom, you're instantly more attractive. Same concept applies to your body. iirc you have only fucked 1 girl in your life so having a better face and gymmaxxed body will give you better ONS potential. Being a tall lanklet only helps with LTRs.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

OP is retarded.

Indeed he is

You are 3 inches shorter than him at 6'4 and look at your sex-appeal to women

No offence, but do you think you would anywhere near as good at 5'9?

Just look at your fucking shoulder frame. You are beastly. You look as though you are born in the Chinese year of the beast.

Look at your mother fucking proportions

Your face is good, but placed on a 5'9 stature and it's nowhere NEAR as appealing to a woman.

He is a moron. INDEED.

He thinks taller dudes like you have messed up facial proportions, while we can see your upper, middle & lower facial thirds are even.

He thinks you are just several inches higher up in the air

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Indeed he is

You are 3 inches shorter than him at 6'4 and look at your sex-appeal to women

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No offence, but do you think you would anywhere near as good at 5'9?

Just look at your fucking shoulder frame. You are beastly. You look as though you are born in the Chinese year of the beast.

Look at your mother fucking proportions

Your face is good, but placed on a 5'9 stature and it's nowhere NEAR as appealing to a woman.

He is a moron. INDEED.

He thinks taller dudes like you have messed up facial proportions, while we can see your upper, middle & lower facial thirds are even.

He thinks you are just several inches higher up in the air

He needed roids to get that body, which is still not even impressive compared to a 5'9" guy who trained for 1 year natty. I can also see his chin is downward grown and recessed which wouldn't have happened if his skull was more compact. Also only has a laycount of 1 with some bpd chick so far from being the slayer that he would've been if he was 5'9".

 

[Amexmaxx]

I can never agree to this. I know for sure if i was 6’4”+ (with the same face) my life would be drastically better.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Dude realistically I’m like average-ish maybe slightly above facially and I know it.

NO. You are a pretty boy. You just have wrist slitter emo charisma so it's a looks subtractor irl, hence you don't get as much attention as you should. You put women off with your 'mummies boy' energy. Trust me.

I’m just tall and wide with tattoos and even I have learned to accept this. I’m not good looking but ive realized you don’t need to be. You just need to be “good enough” to get a good girlfriend and realistically that’s all that matters. I know for a fact now that personality, confidence, game, it all definitely matters once you hit a certain looks threshold because women EXPECT you to have it. They literally think you’re a fucking sperg if you look like chad but act incel. Like it’s so fucking weird to them lmao.

You really don't need to be. If you are tall and wide framed. Exactly. Once threshold is met it's down to your 'actions'.

Saying that, you are good looking. Just not Chad.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

He needed roids to get that body, which is still not even impressive compared to a 5'9" guy who trained for 1 year natty. I can also see his chin is downward grown and recessed which wouldn't have happened if his skull was more compact. Also only has a laycount of 1 with some bpd chick so far from being the slayer that he would've been if he was 5'9".

You moron. He is far too low inhib to ever take steroids.

He only just lost his virginity to a 26 year old bitch that pretty much raped him.

Get outta here.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

I can never agree to this. I know for sure if i was 6’4”+ (with the same face) my life would be drastically better.

False. You have no way of knowing this other than speculation with no basis to back it on.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Another Chad, Chadlite or High Tier Normie????????????????

looksmax.org

@Native

 

[volcelfatcel]

I believe Stallone is the ideal male.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

You’re a dumb fuck jfl. I’m completely natty and don’t even look like I’ve used steroids. I literally look natural as fuck. I’m not even big jfl. And you’re telling me I would slay harder if I was shorter? Makes zero fucking sense, women literally select for height you dog.

I'm pretty sure you made a post about taking T.

You moron. He is far too low inhib to ever take steroids.

He only just lost his virginity to a 26 year old bitch that pretty much raped him.

Get outta here.

Exactly. All this "sex appeal" and has only fucked 1 mentally ill roastie. The 5'9" Chads I know get laid easily since they're 14.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

You’re a dumb fuck jfl. I’m completely natty and don’t even look like I’ve used steroids. I literally look natural as fuck. I’m not even big jfl. And you’re telling me I would slay harder if I was shorter? Makes zero fucking sense, women literally select for height you dog.

Hahahahahahha

This nigga is too funny

@ForeverRecession @LooksOverAll thinks this guy roided

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Cope. 4'5 is the ideal height. Anything over will make you look deformed. 4'5 men are sex havers while many tall men are incels. Just look at how robust Peter Dinklage is. Look at his frame and his warrior skull. Also his smaller size allows him to hide better so that makes him better at hunting/providing.
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Lmao made me laugh out loud

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

5'9 isn't even average male height in Germany

For Zoomers 6ft3-6ft5 is ideal and allows basketballmaxxing and also provides major Career benefits in addition to sexual attractiveness

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Hahahahahahha

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This nigga is too funny

@ForeverRecession @LooksOverAll thinks this guy roided

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I literally said he still looks pathetic compared to a natty 5'9" guy with only 1 year of training. Only reason I thought is because he made a post about taking T. Either way still has close to 0 appeal, evidenced by him only managing to fuck 1 roastie.