crazy how the forum obssesion of fat graft came from a frauded result

Infras are expensive, high risk, and most surgeons don’t have the experience to do them. Yes they can look amazing but I tend to think it’s only really justifiable if you have something like proptosis. If there’s a complication it can really gigafuck your face in a way that’s dramatic and near impossible to fix.
You can go blind from fat graft, you csn get lumps, you could need bleph later, you csn inject fat behind the orbital septum etc. Go snd eat poop if you want no risk
 
Who cares about after when you dont have proper before, you are coping because you rot here when you dont even need too. And then you do some cope surgery just to label yourself as a surgery maxxer or something. Holy fucking fakecel cuck

Also ovefilling is like a death sentence for some people so its crazy how its spread.

Maybe you rot here because you dickcel or something considering you lurk on some threads about dick pumps like a cuck
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Infras are expensive, high risk, and most surgeons don’t have the experience to do them. Yes they can look amazing but I tend to think it’s only really justifiable if you have something like proptosis. If there’s a complication it can really gigafuck your face in a way that’s dramatic and near impossible to fix.
Most likely you’ll put them and they’ll look like shit so you have to redo. So you blow 20k if you really need it.
But if you really need it to the point moderate fat graft wouldn’t do the trick, then it never began.
btw this entire infra obsession and overhype kinda exists because of tufano, if od wasnt fearmongered its obviously the solution in a lot of cases like this

tho often you need both infra and od which is brutal, but its still better than making a massive infra design cuz you didnt do od, and then get issues from that cope attempt
 
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btw this entire infra obsession and overhype kinda exists because of tufano, if od wasnt fearmongered its obviously the solution in a lot of cases like this

tho often you need both infra and od which is brutal, but its still better than making a massive infra design cuz you didnt do od, and then get issues from that cope attempt
Yea od is kinda safe, the high complication rates is for severe cases
 
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You can go blind from fat graft, you csn get lumps, you could need bleph later, you csn inject fat behind the orbital septum etc. Go snd eat poop if you want no risk
it’s not no risk it’s insane amounts of risk for marginal payoffs if you don’t actually have sufficient deficit.

Yeah risk is in the rate of occurance and the severity of outcome. How many people are going blind b/c of a fat graft? It’s probably near 0 if not 0.

Getting lumps is near impossible w/ fat grafting around the tear troughs because if done right it all breaks down and acts as biostim. You only can get lumps if particle size is too large.

Just b/c a risk is theoretically possible, that does not mean it’s the same as the actual risk… and infras are very complex procedure, that few have experience with unlike fat grafting which virtually any PS can do right.
 
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Yea od is kinda safe, the high complication rates is for severe cases
its 0.5% risk of double vision for cosmetic cases and if you get double vision there is surgery to correct it
there is hardly any other risk
compare that to amount of shit that can go wrong with infra implants, plus i have changed my mind, there is kinda nothing that beats genuine deep set, infra might be cope
 
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And for clarity I’m 100% for doing infras if you actually have sufficient deficit, it’s just you need a good amount to make the pay off worth it. That kind of deficit isn’t common.
 
If you dont need infras you dont need fat graft most of the time.
botox to frontalis looks pretty good to me but results seem to me like they could be heavily frauded
 

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botox to frontalis looks pretty good to me but results seem to me like they could be heavily frauded
This one is for sure frauded lol, looks like he saw a girl naked in the before and then saw it was his fat wife in the second
 
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its 0.5% risk of double vision for cosmetic cases and if you get double vision there is surgery to correct it
there is hardly any other risk
compare that to amount of shit that can go wrong with infra implants, plus i have changed my mind, there is kinda nothing that beats genuine deep set, infra might be cope
Really, is the risk that low? How did Taiban Get botched.
 
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@lurking truecel do i need infras

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Really, is the risk that low? How did Taiban Get botched.
Because even if the risk is low you can be unlucky
No it's because he did two walls.

Lateral decompression and fat decompression both have 0.5-1% risk and that is what is used in 99.9% of cosmetic cases by most surgeons.

Taban performed lateral + medial on Tufano. Medial is universally known to be the problem one with up to 30% risk and avoided even on thyroid patients unless quite severe case. Not only it has the risk of double vision but also reduces ipd, causes sinus issues etc.

Btw in Tufano's video he says Taban was planning to do only lateral for Tufano's case, but he suddenly added medial the day before the surgery after meeting Tufano in person. This added 8k to the cost, guy paid 8k to go from 99% chance of good result to life ruined forever.

But yea even considering there was medial, Tufano got very unlucky, really freak case.
 
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@lurking truecel most guys on this app are between the ages of like say 14-28 or say young men. What procedure do you recommend for people with eye bags but the bone isn't recessed most people scream infra impants but do you agree with that? Fat grafting to infra area barely helps right since it's tough for the fat to survive.
 
You can go blind from fat graft, you csn get lumps, you could need bleph later, you csn inject fat behind the orbital septum etc. Go snd eat poop if you want no risk
never heard of anyone going blind from fat graft
 
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