crazy how the forum obssesion of fat graft came from a frauded result

[lurking truecel]

Infras are expensive, high risk, and most surgeons don’t have the experience to do them. Yes they can look amazing but I tend to think it’s only really justifiable if you have something like proptosis. If there’s a complication it can really gigafuck your face in a way that’s dramatic and near impossible to fix.

You can go blind from fat graft, you csn get lumps, you could need bleph later, you csn inject fat behind the orbital septum etc. Go snd eat poop if you want no risk

 

[PsychoDsk]

Who cares about after when you dont have proper before, you are coping because you rot here when you dont even need too. And then you do some cope surgery just to label yourself as a surgery maxxer or something. Holy fucking fakecel cuck

Also ovefilling is like a death sentence for some people so its crazy how its spread.

Maybe you rot here because you dickcel or something considering you lurk on some threads about dick pumps like a cuck
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Nigga wrote an entire article

 

[lurking truecel]

Nigga wrote an entire article

Forgot that you need to have paragraph max to communicate on high IQ org

 

[PsychoDsk]

Forgot

I’ll let it slide this time
Don’t let me catch you forgetting again tho

 

[Nahorscend]

Infras are expensive, high risk, and most surgeons don’t have the experience to do them. Yes they can look amazing but I tend to think it’s only really justifiable if you have something like proptosis. If there’s a complication it can really gigafuck your face in a way that’s dramatic and near impossible to fix.

Most likely you’ll put them and they’ll look like shit so you have to redo. So you blow 20k if you really need it.
But if you really need it to the point moderate fat graft wouldn’t do the trick, then it never began.

btw this entire infra obsession and overhype kinda exists because of tufano, if od wasnt fearmongered its obviously the solution in a lot of cases like this

tho often you need both infra and od which is brutal, but its still better than making a massive infra design cuz you didnt do od, and then get issues from that cope attempt

 

[lurking truecel]

btw this entire infra obsession and overhype kinda exists because of tufano, if od wasnt fearmongered its obviously the solution in a lot of cases like this

tho often you need both infra and od which is brutal, but its still better than making a massive infra design cuz you didnt do od, and then get issues from that cope attempt

Yea od is kinda safe, the high complication rates is for severe cases

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

You can go blind from fat graft, you csn get lumps, you could need bleph later, you csn inject fat behind the orbital septum etc. Go snd eat poop if you want no risk

it’s not no risk it’s insane amounts of risk for marginal payoffs if you don’t actually have sufficient deficit.

Yeah risk is in the rate of occurance and the severity of outcome. How many people are going blind b/c of a fat graft? It’s probably near 0 if not 0.

Getting lumps is near impossible w/ fat grafting around the tear troughs because if done right it all breaks down and acts as biostim. You only can get lumps if particle size is too large.

Just b/c a risk is theoretically possible, that does not mean it’s the same as the actual risk… and infras are very complex procedure, that few have experience with unlike fat grafting which virtually any PS can do right.

 

[Nahorscend]

Yea od is kinda safe, the high complication rates is for severe cases

its 0.5% risk of double vision for cosmetic cases and if you get double vision there is surgery to correct it
there is hardly any other risk
compare that to amount of shit that can go wrong with infra implants, plus i have changed my mind, there is kinda nothing that beats genuine deep set, infra might be cope

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

And for clarity I’m 100% for doing infras if you actually have sufficient deficit, it’s just you need a good amount to make the pay off worth it. That kind of deficit isn’t common.

 

[snowslayer]

If you dont need infras you dont need fat graft most of the time.

botox to frontalis looks pretty good to me but results seem to me like they could be heavily frauded

 

[lurking truecel]

botox to frontalis looks pretty good to me but results seem to me like they could be heavily frauded

This one is for sure frauded lol, looks like he saw a girl naked in the before and then saw it was his fat wife in the second

 

[nishka]

its 0.5% risk of double vision for cosmetic cases and if you get double vision there is surgery to correct it
there is hardly any other risk
compare that to amount of shit that can go wrong with infra implants, plus i have changed my mind, there is kinda nothing that beats genuine deep set, infra might be cope

Really, is the risk that low? How did Taiban Get botched.

 

[lurking truecel]

Really, is the risk that low? How did Taiban Get botched.

Because even if the risk is low you can be unlucky

 

[nishka]

Because even if the risk is low you can be unlucky

probability strikes again

 

[nishka]

@lurking truecel do i need infras

 

[lurking truecel]

@lurking truecel do i need infras

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Nah

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

even when i was a gray i kinda felt that his pre post pics are frauded like those tiktok scammers

You're still grey buddy, under 10k is grey

 

[nishka]

Nah

god bless one less procedure for me

 

[Nahorscend]

Really, is the risk that low? How did Taiban Get botched.

Because even if the risk is low you can be unlucky

No it's because he did two walls.

Lateral decompression and fat decompression both have 0.5-1% risk and that is what is used in 99.9% of cosmetic cases by most surgeons.

Taban performed lateral + medial on Tufano. Medial is universally known to be the problem one with up to 30% risk and avoided even on thyroid patients unless quite severe case. Not only it has the risk of double vision but also reduces ipd, causes sinus issues etc.

Btw in Tufano's video he says Taban was planning to do only lateral for Tufano's case, but he suddenly added medial the day before the surgery after meeting Tufano in person. This added 8k to the cost, guy paid 8k to go from 99% chance of good result to life ruined forever.

But yea even considering there was medial, Tufano got very unlucky, really freak case.

 

[snowslayer]

@lurking truecel most guys on this app are between the ages of like say 14-28 or say young men. What procedure do you recommend for people with eye bags but the bone isn't recessed most people scream infra impants but do you agree with that? Fat grafting to infra area barely helps right since it's tough for the fat to survive.

 

[Miniman333]

You can go blind from fat graft, you csn get lumps, you could need bleph later, you csn inject fat behind the orbital septum etc. Go snd eat poop if you want no risk

never heard of anyone going blind from fat graft

 

[lurking truecel]

never heard of anyone going blind from fat graft

Ofc its rare holy

 

[rscel]

@lurking truecel do i need infras

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whats this scan called?

 

[manteca]

Would getting an eyebrow hair transplant be a more optimal way to lower eyebrows for people who struggle with high set brows? As opposed to Fat Grafting?

 

[SteveRogers]

this is him asking @

@RealSurgerymax before doing fat graft, obv his eyes looks almost exactly the same, but muh he didnt squint in the after in the fat graft. he for sure did just like he didnt really tilt in this before

Do you realise that I had eyelid pulled and dragged supratarsal skin above my eyelashes for a temporary like 10 second hooding?
The before photo was the same angle as the afters - neutral, it was a photo I recycled that I had sent to my doc for a fin prescription for before photos jfl.
You realise I admitted that I was squinting in some of the photos? You realise that I’ve said on multiple occasions that the results were lacklustre?
You realise I’ve literally once again gone under the knife for the same issue?
I made that thread, made sure everyone interested in getting it done knows what to expect and how to get the most out of it, and I can confirm of 20+ users with fantastic results…. For ZERO monetary or personal physical gain - if someone made the thread instead of me, and I followed that advice, I’d be everlastingly grateful.
Instead I have some loser making threads about me.
Molecule anyway I guess, I sleep well knowing how many people indirectly helped ascend.

 

[lurking truecel]

Do you realise that I had eyelid pulled and dragged supratarsal skin above my eyelashes for a temporary like 10 second hooding?
The before photo was the same angle as the afters - neutral, it was a photo I recycled that I had sent to my doc for a fin prescription for before photos jfl.
You realise I admitted that I was squinting in some of the photos? You realise that I’ve said on multiple occasions that the results were lacklustre?
You realise I’ve literally once again gone under the knife for the same issue?
I made that thread, made sure everyone interested in getting it done knows what to expect and how to get the most out of it, and I can confirm of 20+ users with fantastic results…. For ZERO monetary or personal physical gain - if someone made the thread instead of me, and I followed that advice, I’d be everlastingly grateful.
Instead I have some loser making threads about me.
Molecule anyway I guess, I sleep well knowing how many people indirectly helped ascend.

it wasnt some new procedure lol, supra fat is donk speed run. Its not that good and praised because of ease of procedure. I didnt hate on your thread just that your thread was a frauded and kinda uselss

 

[avgsub5human]

it wasnt some new procedure lol, supra fat is donk speed run. Its not that good and praised because of ease of procedure. I didnt hate on your thread just that your thread was a frauded and kinda uselss

how about our fellow jockiboiiii

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

it wasnt some new procedure lol, supra fat is donk speed run. Its not that good and praised because of ease of procedure. I didnt hate on your thread just that your thread was a frauded and kinda uselss

still even if his shit was to be frauded,
it led to at least a dozen ppl here doing the same and are now really happy with the result.

 

[Miniman333]

Do you realise that I had eyelid pulled and dragged supratarsal skin above my eyelashes for a temporary like 10 second hooding?
The before photo was the same angle as the afters - neutral, it was a photo I recycled that I had sent to my doc for a fin prescription for before photos jfl.
You realise I admitted that I was squinting in some of the photos? You realise that I’ve said on multiple occasions that the results were lacklustre?
You realise I’ve literally once again gone under the knife for the same issue?
I made that thread, made sure everyone interested in getting it done knows what to expect and how to get the most out of it, and I can confirm of 20+ users with fantastic results…. For ZERO monetary or personal physical gain - if someone made the thread instead of me, and I followed that advice, I’d be everlastingly grateful.
Instead I have some loser making threads about me.
Molecule anyway I guess, I sleep well knowing how many people indirectly helped ascend.

How were the results lackluster? Would you be open to providing an updated picture so others can assess?

 

[SteveRogers]

How were the results lackluster? Would you be open to providing an updated picture so others can assess?

I try not to ever take photos of myself - makes the body dysmorphia worse.
I lost 80%+ of the grafted fat.
My issue was that my retaining ligament and upper eyelid crease was too high - so the fat was stuck, lifted into my eyebrow, so the full result, by no fault of anyone but my starting base, was lacklustre.
Hence why I’ve gone under the knife once again, thread potentially coming soon - depending on my results.
(Not grafting, superior orbital retaining ligament release + soft tissue anchoring - the most intense pain I’ve ever felt and I’ve broken 7 ribs + severely lacerated my kidney before, which absolutely pales in comparison to this pain. Luckily it hasn’t lasted, but my heart rate went from 49 pre op, to apparently over 180 jfl.)
This is from a group photo - I’m smiling so a slight squint should be factored in, unlike the thought process of the utter faggot that made this thread, I don’t lie out my ass.

Notice my upper eyelid crease is quite high - most guys with deep supras like me have this (look at Clav), it’s why deep supras + naturally loose retaining ligaments like O’Pry look so unbelievably mog.

 

[123fort123]

No that's stupid, you need to accept your pheno and your goal should be to maximise it, reach the ideal form of your pheno

For most browns it's something like this
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Mild uee, it looks pleasant, there is no deep groove of the sulcus, just a strip.


No it doesn't, it makes them lower (according to people who went to rattinan)


Better than before ofc but cope to say the after is some kind of chad eye area that women like

high iq, but you think fat grafting is the best option for under eye vs structural change (infras or even lateral orbital decomp) Or a combined approach? i have a neutral orbital vector but a very deep lid-cheek junction

And for uee, to achieve mild uee from on average slightly too high is a conservative fat grafting approach worth it? Or some sort of botox or even loosening of retaining ligament that steve rodgers talk about.

 

[Nahorscend]

high iq, but you think fat grafting is the best option for under eye vs structural change (infras or even lateral orbital decomp) Or a combined approach? i have a neutral orbital vector but a very deep lid-cheek junction

Depends case by case, if it's truly neutral and just the lid-cheek transition is the issue then yes do fat. If you have zero issues of lid retraction, because if you have that then you need structural change that fat probably can't give.

And for uee, to achieve mild uee from on average slightly too high is a conservative fat grafting approach worth it? Or some sort of botox or even loosening of retaining ligament that steve rodgers talk about.

Yea you can try fat but probably don't overfill.

 

[stigmaboy]

lmao its over for us. another ltn scam exposed. guess we're all ropefuel in the end anyway.