"Cucked" societies create more attractive people

In fact they had posted a thread on epigenetics and he as independent of ethnicity, all men, even Asians, if they develop correctly will have a "beautiful" craniofacial structure, the problem? Almost no one is developing correctly these days modern, and that's not a "racial" issue, it's a global health issue.
 
Societies that enable and promote cuckoldry create more attractive people because females can more strictly select based on physical attractiveness (good genes) without compromising security and causing social unrest (ugly males are more likely to be forced to betacuck rather than receiving a mandated virgin).



The result:
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societies that oppress women still outbreed cucked liberal ones
most of these stacies won't have children until their late 30s. and many won't have any at all because they give up after a few miscarriages due to to their old age
there's a reason why chads are a absolute minority and the reason is societies where women have rights don't last longer than a few generations at most
and that's a good thing
 
nah, pre industrial societies, everyone looked good. looking isn't about genetics so much as it is about chewing and posture

don't reference deathnik societies, they're irrelevant. they will always be shit looking whatever their societies look like. a fully feminized westernized india will still look like utter shit
 
Only due to immigration. The declining white population will become increasing more attractive though.
ethnic migrants have a higher birth rate than whites. so not only immigration

and whites aren't getting more attractive i'm not seeing it. perhaps even the opposite as most parents in the west are generally a subhuman beta cuck and an old roastie that settled down
hardly ever see a chad or stacey with kids
 
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Then why are french people manlets? Or women don’t select for height.
The average height in France is roughly the same as the average height in the US, and it's been increasing due to sexual selection. Also, keep in mind that the average height is constantly being skewed down due to immigration.
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It makes no sense because you're braindead?
Ugly humans will always exist because of genetic recombination. And women don't go for looks alone in ltr. Chad only is a meme if you actually go out to the real world you basement dweller
 
The average height in France is roughly the same as the average height in the US, And it's been increasing due to sexual selection. Also, keep in mind that the average height is constantly being skewed down due to immigration.
America is way more ethnic than France and still is taller than France plus due to the early puritan culture of America it never had the same female sexual selection. Ur theory is easily disproven.
Netherlands is even more ethnic than France but still way taller. So much for women preferring height.
 
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If you're serious, you're a jerk but begrudgingly. First, attractiveness and dimorphism are different things, attractiveness is influenced yes or yes by society (currently we Europeans are the banner of beauty, embedded in our subconscious from a young age, all cartoons, princes and even fucking anime they have Caucasian men), that is, contrary to what you publish, second, what creates beauty and dimorphism is health, a good childhood, food and nutrition, sports, the easy secretion of GH. Literally the opposite of the countries you posted. I really hope this post is a meme because if not, damn it, go study social sciences. You are comparing the beauty of men who have the standard in their favor and from first world countries with easy health, to countries that have the standard at a disadvantage and poor health (that is, a terrible physical development as well as craniofacial).
In fact they had posted a thread on epigenetics and he as independent of ethnicity, all men, even Asians, if they develop correctly will have a "beautiful" craniofacial structure, the problem? Almost no one is developing correctly these days modern, and that's not a "racial" issue, it's a global health issue.
If you're serious, you're coping, but begrudgingly. Beauty "standards" are the result of genetic preferences.

second, what creates beauty and dimorphism is health, a good childhood, food and nutrition, sports, the easy secretion of GH. Literally the opposite of the countries you posted.
All of these have a genetic basis. You're suggesting that these factors aren't prominent in France...?
 
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Ugly humans will always exist because of genetic recombination. And women don't go for looks alone in ltr. Chad only is a meme if you actually go out to the real world you basement dweller
Nowhere did my "braindead" comment deny this. You're going off on tangents due to your own stupidity.
 
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America is way more ethnic than France and still is taller than France plus due to the early puritan culture of America it never had the same female sexual selection. Ur theory is easily disproven.
Netherlands is even more ethnic than France but still way taller. So much for women preferring height.
The U.S. had a higher, relative, average height to begin with. So did the Netherlands. Like France, those countries were also exposed to increased female sexual selection. Thus, their average heights increased.
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Like France, those countries were also exposed to increased female sexual selection. Thus, their average heights increased.
It has absolutely nothing to do with better nutrition and healthcare. Lol
 
It has absolutely nothing to do with better nutrition and healthcare. Lol
India had massive infrastructural advancements in the past century, but its height growth still stagnated due to arranged marriages (limited female sexual selection).
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The average height in France is roughly the same as the average height in the US, and it's been increasing due to sexual selection. Also, keep in mind that the average height is constantly being skewed down due to immigration.
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That statistic shows for those born up to 1980, if it went afterwards, the trend would probably be stagnating (like it slows down for 1960+).
 
This generation of giga Chads came into existence by females who likely found normies to be good enough for them in the pre internet era

Imagine how we will start to evolve once foids actually start securing the semen of the Chads the have tinder ONS with (surely this will start happening as foids will lie about being on birth control for superior genes child)
 
Even considering that tho. Average heights have actually gone slightly down for those born after 1980 in Europe (so I've heard). If you take away immigrants, average heights would probably be stagnant for those born after 1980 (not really any way to really confirm that tho).
 
what about subhuman females that are breeding and creating more subhumans?

Infact subhuman females are the main cause of inceldom, since majority of subhuman men wouldn't breed anyways
 
Even considering that tho. Average heights have actually gone slightly down for those born after 1980 in Europe (so I've heard). If you take away immigrants, average heights would probably be stagnant for those born after 1980 (not really any way to really confirm that tho).
You're just speculating. Find a source that controls for immigration before continuing.
 
If you're serious, you're coping, but begrudgingly. Beauty "standards" are the result of genetic preferences.


All of these have a genetic basis. You're suggesting that these factors aren't prominent in France...?

Sexual dimorphism and symmetry are synonymous with good genetics, beauty itself as such is a standard that changes over the centuries. Being Caucasian (having a forward nasal spine, white skin, light eyes and hair) is not going to give you any kind of advantage in the survival of nature.
 
Sexual dimorphism and symmetry are synonymous with good genetics
Correct, as are indications of heterozygosity, athleticism, fighting success, intelligence, etc.

Being Caucasian (having a forward nasal spine, white skin, light eyes and hair) is not going to give you any kind of advantage in the survival of nature.
The pertinence of those features is arguably much less than the aforementioned ones.
 
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Correct, as are indications of heterozygosity, athleticism, fighting success, intelligence, etc.


The pertinence of those features is arguably much less than the aforementioned ones.
It happens that sexual dimorphism is universal and depends on environmental factors, not "caucasian genetics" wtf. The Caucasian is beautiful by today's standards, to think that they are of superior genetics and that is why they are more "desired" has no real argument. Caucasians are "beautiful" because the current beauty standard says so, not because of natural preselection.
 
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Everyone copes so much in your threads lmao
 
It just started with the expansion of Eastern Europe and was sustained due to the modeling industry tending to cast racial minorities, (see why gray eyes are the most beautiful), usually due to historical facts. Before, the banner of beauty belonged to Greece, long before, it was the Mesopotamians. Now, if you really think it's due to genetics, ufff please go take history classes, the only real attraction, genetic and written in your blood, is sexual dimorphism and symmetry, everything else, be it skin color or hair and eyes is the influence of human society, it is not the attractiveness that is written in your blood, but rather in your head.
Start explaining how the "current beauty standard" came to exist.
 
And if you want to continue with mental masturbation "muh muh white", ask yourself why Latins women are so inflated today (which seems like shit to me), but that's the world, constantly changing, as well as the beauty standards that you think so much are due to genetics (fuck seriously, go study).
 
It just started with the expansion of Eastern Europe and was sustained due to the modeling industry tending to cast racial minorities, (see why gray eyes are the most beautiful), usually due to historical facts. Before, the banner of beauty belonged to Greece, long before, it was the Mesopotamians.
You can't go deeper than this? What does the "expansion of Eastern Europe" mean?
 
And if you want to continue with mental masturbation "muh muh white", ask yourself why Latins women are so inflated today (which seems like shit to me), but that's the world, constantly changing, as well as the beauty standards that you think so much are due to genetics (fuck seriously, go study).
You're just rambling at this point. Where and how are Latinas so inflated?
 
You can't go deeper than this? What does the "expansion of Eastern Europe" mean?

Don't you want to go even deeper?, (((they))) dominate us and I don't see them with "beautiful" genetics at all.
 
Solo estás divagando en este punto. ¿Dónde y cómo las latinas están tan infladas?
All over the fucking world since 2020 Latinas have become fashionable except in Asia, I don't give them more than 10 years in any case.
 
society would rather have good looking people.
But if society is against my wishes, then do you think I care what they want? No. I'll do what's best for me
 
Look, I'm not going to deny you the female infidelity that links your post. The only thing I will say and with this I close, CHAD IS CHAD even if he is black, Asian, Indian, Caucasian, etc. And it's going to turn everyone into cucks.
 
Look, I'm not going to deny you the female infidelity that links your post. The only thing I will say and with this I close, CHAD IS CHAD even if he is black, Asian, Indian, Caucasian, etc. And it's going to turn everyone into cucks.
But White Chad -> other Chads
 
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it works for some traits, but not even close to what you're trying to sell here. whites 'in their default' are inherently superior. even if you go back million of years, it would only prove you wrong because the women 'selection' and cucked societies you refer to are a relatively recent phenomena and if you had any idea of what you're saying you would know that women have no idea of what they're doing, their muh 'selection' is a disaster and extremely dysgenic
true
female choice is dysgenic
ever since women were given rights in the west, whites and all other westerners have gone down the shitters in terms of genetic quality. probably due to women getting pregnant at a way too old age and it's mostly beta cucks that reproduce anyways
As much as women fuck around in their 20s with Chads, they'll likely won't be able to settle down with Chad and actually have children with them because there's simply not enough chads and the chads that are there are mostly not interested in having a family they'd rather fuck around themselves till their 40s or 50s

A few hundred years of increasingly divergent female sexual selection can be quantified. In the late 1800s, the average Western European male was only a few centimeters taller than the average Indian male:
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that graph compares indian with chinese men not indian with western men
and anyways it doesn't take away from the fact that white europeans were superior to native americans despite being shorter
height mostly got to do with diet not as much with hypergamy

and the graph about the height of germans actually proves that because up until the 1960s there was no female choice yet germans were getting taller than ever regardless. it's actually from the 1960s on that germans and french weren't getting taller which is also the time of 2nd wave feminism
 
female choice is dysgenic
ever since women were given rights in the west, whites and all other westerners have gone down the shitters in terms of genetic quality. probably due to women getting pregnant at a way too old age
Massive cope. Increasing maternal age is the result of birth control, not innate female sexual selection.

and it's mostly beta cucks that reproduce anyways
Societies that enable and promote cuckoldry create more attractive people because females can more strictly select based on physical attractiveness (good genes) without compromising security and causing social unrest (ugly males are more likely to be forced to betacuck rather than receiving a mandated virgin).

that graph compares indian with chinese men not indian with western men
You can very easily compare the Indian growth rate in one graph to the growth rates in the other graph...

and anyways it doesn't take away from the fact that white europeans were superior to native americans despite being shorter
Source?

height mostly got to do with diet not as much with hypergamy
More coping, especially past the advent of efficient agriculture and assuming minimal malnutrition.

and the graph about the height of germans actually proves that because up until the 1960s there was no female choice
In the 15th century, parliament was not punishing adulterous wives by enclosure but they did call for punishment for those who murdered their husbands by enclosure. If a woman had not compounded her crime of adultery with murder, prior to the 16th century, she was not enclosed. Not examples have yet been found contrary to this.
www.medievalists.net

Adultery in Late-Medieval Northern France - Medievalists.net

This paper focused on adultery and canon law in later medieval northern France.
www.medievalists.net
I'm assuming that medieval France and Germany were similar in terms of cuckoldry.

it's actually from the 1960s on that germans and french weren't getting taller which is also the time of 2nd wave feminism
1. They were getting taller, as per the graph I linked.
2.
Also, keep in mind that the average height is constantly being skewed down due to immigration.
 
1. They were getting taller, as per the graph I linked.
they weren't getting much taller from the 1960s and onwards. but according to your theory that's the point when height should have increased rapidly because then women were actually liberated and could choose their partners
western society was still a patriarchy till the 1960s
I'm assuming that medieval France and Germany were similar in terms of cuckoldry.
as if women in the 16th century all were adulterous when marital rape was literally still legal
how were women supposed to get away with cheating on their beta cuck husbands to sleep with chad and actually having offspring with Chad, when they were totally dependent on their beta cuck husband? women didn't earn wages, and they were still arranged married by their fathers + due to marital rape still being legal they couldn't reject their husband anyways
More coping, especially past the advent of efficient agriculture and assuming minimal malnutrition.
men still grew up malnourished in europe till a decade after world war 2 -> https://www.nber.org/system/files/chapters/c7434/c7434.pdf
height correlates most strongly with food situation
 
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India had massive infrastructural advancements in the past century, but its height growth still stagnated due to arranged marriages (limited female sexual selection).
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Why ar u escaping my question about US and France?

Plus India is way poor than China Plus it's a vegetarian shithole. Atleast provide good arguments.
 
they weren't getting much taller from the 1960s and onwards. but according to your theory that's the point when height should have increased rapidly because then women were actually liberated and could choose their partners
western society was still a patriarchy till the 1960s
Also, keep in mind that the average height is constantly being skewed down due to immigration.

as if women in the 16th century all were adulterous when marital rape was literally still legal
how were women supposed to get away with cheating on their beta cuck husbands to sleep with chad and actually having offspring with Chad, when they were totally dependent on their beta cuck husband? women didn't earn wages, and they were still arranged married by their fathers + due to marital rape still being legal they couldn't reject their husband anyways
They could have a secret affair, exacerbated by a lack of paternity testing. Not to mention, you're ignoring all of the prostitutes that got pregnant.

men still grew up malnourished in europe till a decade after world war 2 -> https://www.nber.org/system/files/chapters/c7434/c7434.pdf
...yet the average height was increasing in Europe prior to the end of WW2.

Standing Tall: Plains Indians Enjoyed Height, Health Advantage

Equestrian Indian tribes on the American Plains in the late 1800s were the tallest people in the world, suggesting that they were surprisingly well-nourished given disease and their lifestyle, a new study found. www.sciencedaily.com
What was your argument for mentioning this? The genes for height are a product of a particular environment (as are all genes). My argument is that sexual selection increases the average height over time, assuming that nutritional thresholds are reached.
 
Why ar u escaping my question about US and France?
Your puritan argument is weak because there was notable female sexual selection by the late 19th century in America, which is evident by the growth rate not increasing prior to that.

Plus India is way poor than China Plus it's a vegetarian shithole. Atleast provide good arguments.
India went from dirt poor and poverty-stricken to having an obesity epidemic in that time period. Not to mention that basic healthcare exploded in availability.
 
Also, keep in mind that the average height is constantly being skewed down due to immigration.
incorrect -> https://www.nature.com/articles/pr2012189
On the basis of data on the country of birth of the grandparents, only 4–5% of our study population were from the third generation. Although the third-generation immigrants may be partly accountable for the flattening of the Dutch growth trend, this group is too small to fully explain the stagnation in height
They could have a secret affair, exacerbated by a lack of paternity testing. Not to mention, you're ignoring all of the prostitutes that got pregnant.
yeah no, women weren't all sneaking out of their house to get fucked & impregnated by chad :ROFLMAO: post sources for that claim
adultery was still a crime for most of european history
...yet the average height was increasing in Europe prior to the end of WW2.
because the food situation was getting better
but height wasn't increasing much during war, even stagnated or decreased, as the food situation worsened ->
 
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What I said is correct and that link does not claim otherwise.

It's possible that height starts to have diminishing returns past 6', which would partially explain the height charts plateauing around that height. Regardless, updated height information for 21-year-old (white) Dutch men in the current year would be valuable.

yeah no, women weren't all sneaking out of their house to get fucked & impregnated by chad :ROFLMAO: post sources for that claim
adultery was still a crime for most of european history
I'm arguing that infidelity was a small but significant component. Realistically, increased female sexual mobility (lesser or lacking arranged marriage) simply results in females being more selective with their long-term partners (who they will end up breeding with).

because the food situation was getting better
but height wasn't increasing much during war, even stagnated or decreased, as the food situation worsened -> https://www.nber.org/system/files/chapters/c7434/c7434.pdf
And then after the war, it continued on an upward trajectory.
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And then after the war, it continued on an upward trajectory.
which supports the theory that height mostly correlates with food situation
It's possible that height starts to have diminishing returns past 6', which would partially explain the height charts plateauing around that height. Regardless, updated height information for 21-year-old (white) Dutch men in the current year would be valuable.
why would it plateau? generally speaking a 6'3 man has a higher SMV than a 6' man, therefor if female choice had an "eugenic" effect, height should still increase
Regardless, updated height information for 21-year-old (white) Dutch men in the current year would be valuable.
maybe valuable but not necessary to know that even before immigration hit europe height plateaued
netherlands isn't the only country such a study was conducted on -> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2712240/
 
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which supports the theory that height mostly correlates with food situation
If that were the case then the average height would have returned to its state prior to the war and then flatlined. Also:
India had massive infrastructural advancements in the past century, but its height growth still stagnated due to arranged marriages (limited female sexual selection).
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why would it plateau? generally speaking a 6'3 man has a higher SMV than a 6' man, therefor if female choice had an "eugenic" effect, height should still increase
Selectiveness for particularly tall men would be less likely to outweigh the following due to diminishing returns:
1. The third-generation (or higher) immigrants (5% of the sample in the study you linked)
2. DNA paternity testing becoming increasingly feasible (making covert cuckoldry significantly less feasible)
3. Increased obesity rates (which may stunt growth)

maybe valuable but not necessary to know that even before immigration hit europe height plateaued
You're suggesting that immigration only "hit Europe" around the late 90s?
 
Compared to societies that harshly limit female sexual selection:
shit comparison

first worlders have better nutrition and acess to hygiene, hence they look much better
 

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