dark circles (not from lack sleep, but structurally). Any info what works well, to reduce it or get it away??

[eduardkoopman]

Any info. On what i can do for my dark circles.


I first used cafeineserum from The ordinary. But it was for dark circles because of lack of sleep. And dehydarting. So I stopped that.

What i don know. With limited results, helps a little, but not enough for m likeing:
1. aloe vera* moisterizer
2. sunblock zincoxide (leaves a bit of a white cast the one I have

What can I use, besides fillers???
Anyone with good info, or tips?

This woman managed to get them away totally. in appearance.



* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5843359/

 

[Deleted member 3043]

retin a based eye cream ?

 

[Xander578]

retin a based eye cream ?

tried it, barely works if it's structural or lack of soft tissue

 

[forwardgrowth]

MSE nuked mine

 

[Xander578]

MSE nuked mine

U had MSE? mogger

 

[forwardgrowth]

U had MSE? mogger

Still need 30mm of expansion to be human.. the struggle

 

[Xander578]

Still need 30mm of expansion to be human.. the struggle

Fucking brutal, i was planning to get one in april but my plans were postponed

 

[eduardkoopman]

retin a based eye cream ?

I use retinA/tretinoin 0.025. Also under my eyes. Nearly daily. It doesn't seem to help much.
Maybe it helps with dark circles, because of lack of sleep and stuff related to that.

But I have, and aiming to discuss here, the dark circles. Due to lack of vilome/tissue. because of face structure or whatever. but basically it always being there, becasue of lack of tissue, bone support, and maybe skin thickness.

tried it, barely works if it's structural or lack of soft tissue

I think you are right. It's my experience also.

 

[Sal123]

How does mse fix orbital?

 

[Xander578]

I think you are right. It's my experience also.

Only filler, lefort 3, implant or MSE as forward growth mentioned (maybe with bamp too) can fix it i think

 

[Vidyacoper]

fat graft

 

[forwardgrowth]

Fucking brutal, i was planning to get one in april but my plans were postponed

Definitely get it, expanding daily is a slow drip of life fuel most people need

 

[Deleted member 3043]

I use retinA/tretinoin 0.025. Also under my eyes. Nearly daily. It doesn't seem to help much.
Maybe it helps with dark circles, because of lack of sleep and stuff related to that.

But I have, and aiming to discuss here, the dark circles. Due to lack of vilome/tissue. because of face structure or whatever. but basically it always being there, becasue of lack of tissue, bone support, and maybe skin thickness.

I think you are right. It's my experience also.

did you Always lacked tissue ?

 

[Sal123]

What about cheek and infra orbit implants

 

[Vidyacoper]

Still need 30mm of expansion to be human.. the struggle

how many mm did u expand by

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Definitely get it, expanding daily is a slow drip of life fuel most people need

the nose will become more upturned ?

What about cheek and infra orbit implants

won't work

 

[Xander578]

Definitely get it, expanding daily is a slow drip of life fuel most people need

Yeh otherwise i'm ending it soon jfl

 

[eduardkoopman]

did you Always lacked tissue ?

I think so, They were already there since mid-teen years i remember.

 

[forwardgrowth]

how many mm did u expand by

10mm, I have retainer in atm

the nose will become more upturned ?

won't work

the procedure brings maxilla forward a 1-2mm so slight nose change

 

[eduardkoopman]

Only filler, lefort 3, implant or MSE as forward growth mentioned (maybe with bamp too) can fix it i think

Fillers I knew.
I need to look into MSE

So is it:
* lock of forward growth, OR
* lack of growth in width/cheeckbones?
* Or does the cheeckbones and platale need to be pushed upwards??
Or both??

 

[Vidyacoper]

10mm, I have retainer in atm

damn
what was your inter-molar width before expansion?

 

[forwardgrowth]

damn
what was your inter-molar width before expansion?

38

 

[Fear]

retin a based eye cream ?

tried it, barely works if it's structural or lack of soft tissue

Never use tretinoin around your eyes. It reduces facial fat.

I would recommend fat grafts. A rare few surgeons can perform them in such a way that vasculature grows within the transplanted fat making the results permanent.

 

[Xander578]

Fillers I knew.
I need to look into MSE

So is it:
* lock of forward growth, OR
* lack of growth in width/cheeckbones?
* Or does the cheeckbones and platale need to be pushed upwards??
Or both??

Lack of forward growth(maybe lack of soft tissue aswell)

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Never use tretinoin around your eyes. It reduces facial fat.

I would recommend fat grafts. A rare few surgeons can perform them in such a way that vasculature grows within the transplanted fat making the results permanent.

i mean retin a based eye cream from what i've Heard not full retin a let me find the article

 

[Vidyacoper]

38

one last question... how much wider did ur mouth/lips get if any wider at all?

 

[Deleted member 3043]

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[eduardkoopman]

Only filler, ..........

Filler i see, works a little. So still good. Not 100% at all.

I checked how it helped that woman in OP (she has dark circles also due to lack of support/tissue). She did fillers also. It helped a bit

 

[forwardgrowth]

one last question... how much wider did ur mouth/lips get if any wider at all?

alot wider lip width and even the shape improved

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Filler i see, works a little. So still good. Not 100% at all.

I checked how it helped that woman in OP (she has dark circles also due to lack of support/tissue). She did fillers also. It helped a bit

how can you know if one is due to lack of tissue ?

alot wider lip width and even the shape improved

life fuel so much... how much did it cost ?

 

[eduardkoopman]

how can you know if one is due to lack of tissue ?

I dunno 100%. But I assumed, that's the case for people (like me) with permanent dark circles. Even when, well rested, healthy, hydrated, etc..

 

[Xander578]

Filler i see, works a little. So still good. Not 100% at all.

I checked how it helped that woman in OP (she has dark circles also due to lack of support/tissue). She did fillers also. It helped a bit

This is the best filler result i saw thus far

I think the reason the other foid's result look so underwhelming is that some doctors are afraid of unexpected results of looking overdone, since HA is hydrophilic

 

[Lorsss]

Any info. On what i can do for my dark circles.


I first used cafeineserum from The ordinary. But it was for dark circles because of lack of sleep. And dehydarting. So I stopped that.

What i don know. With limited results, helps a little, but not enough for m likeing:
1. aloe vera* moisterizer
2. sunblock zincoxide (leaves a bit of a white cast the one I have

What can I use, besides fillers???
Anyone with good info, or tips?

This woman managed to get them away totally. in appearance.



* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5843359/

dark circles is the easiest flaw to fix.
Just go to the mall and buy a 5 dollar concealer

I don't want to experiment all theese natural and chemical methods that rarely work

 

[Elias]

MSE nuked mine

When did you have mse?
How much expansion
What country?

 

[didntreadlol]

infraorbital implants, fat grafts, fillers

 

[Deleted member 4087]

I was suggested something called Volufiline. Try it

 

[.👽.]

Any info. On what i can do for my dark circles.


I first used cafeineserum from The ordinary. But it was for dark circles because of lack of sleep. And dehydarting. So I stopped that.

What i don know. With limited results, helps a little, but not enough for m likeing:
1. aloe vera* moisterizer
2. sunblock zincoxide (leaves a bit of a white cast the one I have

What can I use, besides fillers???
Anyone with good info, or tips?

This woman managed to get them away totally. in appearance.



* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5843359/

Maybe bad undereye support, thin skin.

 

[Swolepenisman]

apply moisturizer and coolagen cream

 

[GetThatBread]

Fillers I knew.
I need to look into MSE

So is it:
* lock of forward growth, OR
* lack of growth in width/cheeckbones?
* Or does the cheeckbones and platale need to be pushed upwards??
Or both??

I don’t think it has to do with cheekbones. Look at rapper Booka600 he has insane forward zygos and jaw width yet he too has dark circles

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.google.com

 

[.👽.]

apply moisturizer and coolagen cream

Wont work

 

[Cope]

MSE nuked mine

Did MSE give you a CCW rotation?

 

[Swolepenisman]

Wont work

fat graph or filler

 

[curryslayerordeath]

10mm, I have retainer in atm

the procedure brings maxilla forward a 1-2mm so slight nose change

Any FWHR change?

 

[ThisLifeKillsMe]

Fillers

You can even do it yourself

Better blind than ugly

 

[eduardkoopman]

I was suggested something called Volufiline. Try it

I'll look up on that one.

apply moisturizer and coolagen cream

I do and did.

I used night at night.
Moisturizer \ aloe Vera.
Retin-a

I used at day:
Moisturizer/ aloe Vera
Sunblock zinoxide (that mofo sadly leaves alot of white cast.

dark circles is the easiest flaw to fix.
Just go to the mall and buy a 5 dollar concealer

I don't want to experiment all theese natural and chemical methods that rarely work

Thanks.
I guess one needs to choice the right color

 

[forwardgrowth]

Any FWHR change?

slightly!

Did MSE give you a CCW rotation?

Slight , improved my nose

 

[curryslayerordeath]

slightly!

Slight , improved my nose

u just gave me an insane dopamine rush lmfao. damn i need this virus to be over so i can start

 

[ritalinredemption]

Still need 30mm of expansion to be human.. the struggle

hey mate, can you PM me about the MSE? booked a consultation but corona fucked it up, wanted to know a bit about your results. thanks

 

[wagie489]

Definitely get it, expanding daily is a slow drip of life fuel most people need

how did your mandible handle it?

 

[Deleted member 4410]

38

measured between which molars?